Life Kit - Planning A Trip? Pack And Plan Like A Pro

Episode Date: November 21, 2019

We asked three road warriors to share their traveling expertise. The result? Seven tips to help you pack light and plan a trip, like a pro.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/...adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:27 It's time for a vacation. You deserve it. Let's leave behind the drudgery and drain of daily life and do something different. But if we're going to travel, let's do it better. Let's travel like professional travelers. There's infinite ways to sort of enjoy yourself along the road and not get so frazzled by delays. Good preparation gives you peace of mind and packing hacks will let you take what you really need. Someone just accused me of having a Mary Poppins bag. And yet still carry around less baggage. If you've thought about travel and you've actually worked out a way to do travel well,
Starting point is 00:01:02 then you have a lot more free time. You're not wasting energy. You know what you have. You know that what you have is going to be enough. We found road warriors and mined their experience to give you their best tips for packing and planning for a trip. That advice is now on its way to you in this NPR Life Kit. I'm Elise Hugh. I logged hundreds of thousands of miles a year as an international correspondent for NPR. Going away was my job too. So whether it's a short weekend getaway or a journey with an indefinite end, we're going to pack you up with knowledge you need to plan better and pack smarter so your trips go more smoothly. Learn how to pack and plan for travel like a pro
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Starting point is 00:02:18 One pro became pro through a job posting that sounded like a dream or a joke. So the New York Times puts out a list every year called 52 places to go. 52 travel destinations that they just think are the hottest things you should go to, or a train just started going to this place, so it's finally accessible. Or maybe the government is going to build a dam and then it's going to get flooded in two years, and so this is your last chance. And they were offering a job for one journalist to go to all 52 places in a year. A longtime magazine writer, Jada Yuan, saw the ad and submitted an application, not knowing just how much competition there would be.
Starting point is 00:03:03 You know, people were sending in songs. One of the people who dreamed up the project had said she was looking for a unicorn, and then people started sending her, like, unicorn balloons, which she had to send back because at the times you can't accept a gift over $25. You know, I didn't know until after I got the job how many people had applied, which was 13,000. 13,000 people wanted to travel around the world and write about it. And Jada ended up with the gig.
Starting point is 00:03:33 But she had less than a month to prep and plan for her year-long trip around the globe. And after all the adventures and misadventures. She offers us takeaway number one. You never need as much stuff as you think. Eliminate extra baggage before you leave. You just don't need that much on the road. And even if you're not on the road for a while, you're just leaving for a short time. The same thing. You pack and then you remove a third of the things that you packed.
Starting point is 00:04:07 You pack and then you just a third of the things that you packed. You pack and then you just, you have to think about it. You're like, how many days am I going to be gone? Can I wash any of this stuff in a sink? And then you take a third of it away because schlepping things around is a great way to kill your buzz on a vacation. To dig into lightening our loads, I went to engineer and experienced world traveler Doug Diamond. He's the road warrior behind the site OneBag.com. His concept is, well, exactly what it sounds like. One bag is all you need. And that's one carry-on sized bag if you're traveling by air. One time, Doug flew to Moscow, then spent a week there on business, and then flew straight to New Delhi for another week. Opposite climates, he still managed to fit everything in just one bag. It's absolutely a skill that can be mastered by almost everyone. Is it a magic bag?
Starting point is 00:04:57 No, not at all. In fact, the bag is the least important. If you have already completed the first tip, which is to leave more stuff at home, then Doug's big takeaway is our tip number two. Reduce the weight with lightweight versions of what you need and with items that perform multiple purposes. For instance, Doug doesn't leave home without a scarf. I could literally go for five minutes giving you a list of all the different things you could do with a scarf. It will give you protection from sunburn and dust and sand and wind in that, which is what it was designed to do. But it's also a headband and a hat and a napkin and a towel and a handkerchief and a dust mask. And I could literally go on for five minutes. Ooh, this is fun. What's another one of these MVPs for your one bag, Doug?
Starting point is 00:05:41 Something like dental floss. Dental floss can be repair thread. It can help you to lock your luggage. The little cutter on the box, if you're a knitter, you can use that to cut things in the airplane without having to take scissors on the plane. You can slice cake and cheese and pastries and things with it. You can use it as an emergency shoelace. You can use it if you've got a finger ring that's stuck on your finger that you can't get off. There's a little trick you can use with dental floss that will very easily take the ring off your finger. This is a lot of ways to use floss. And it's still going.
Starting point is 00:06:16 If you've got a drippy faucet in your hotel room at night, you can tie a piece of dental floss around the end of the faucet and let the water dribble down the dental floss so it won't drip, drip, drip anymore. So there's just no end to these little clever ideas. Who knew dental floss was such an unsung hero of traveling light? It's amazing what you can do with some things. Floss or scarves or otherwise, when it comes to packing your things, jet setters agree on this. Use packing cubes, which is tip number three for packing like a pro.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Packing cubes are these lightweight, expandable, zip-up pouches that don't cost a lot of money. They come in these rectangular shapes, and they let you stuff a bunch of clothing in them to save space. You can get packing cubes made out of really high-tech, super thin material that are very strong and weigh almost nothing at all. So that's the sort of organizational side of things. Packing pros have different preferred methods of getting their clothes in their cubes. So the folding method or the rolling method or bundling. But they agree on the cubes. Jada, the 52 Places traveler, endorses cubes for that organizational sense.
Starting point is 00:07:33 I like having a lot of bags inside my bags. But also because they solve luggage weight problems, in a cinch. A lot of times you're going on budget airlines, and they'll weigh both a checked bag and your carry-on bag. And you have to sort of even out that ratio. So you might have a couple kilograms to spare in your checked bag. But your carry-on bag is over and then you're going to have to pay for it to check that as well. But if you take a packing cube out of the carry-on and just stick it in your checked bag, then you sort of even out the weight.
Starting point is 00:08:02 So I had one cube for clothes. I had one cube for like seasonal things like hats and swimsuits and then a bunch of other smaller ones for for like toiletries that are liquid and toiletries that are not liquid. Those liquids bring us to takeaway number four. Lighten your load of liquid toiletries. Water is just about the worst thing to be carrying. It's heavy. It's bulky. The security people don't like it. It can leak. There's just a huge amount of weight and bulk in there that doesn't need to be there.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Because almost everything in a toiletries slash cosmetics bag, there are solid versions of it that don't weigh as much and don't have any of those other problems. So powders, not pastes, in order to lighten those liquids, or dry shampoo instead of the real stuff. But that's not the only way to lose liquids. You could just leave them at home, as Jada suggests. I would have actually set out with with almost none of my toiletries. I would have just left them all at home and then slowly built up a toiletry kit when I was on the road because it turns out that like that most of the time you don't miss the things you're carrying around. Most of the time pick up the things you need while on the road except for the five items you can't necessarily find everywhere.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Among the things that are hard to find, always sunscreen, bug spray, some kind of bug bite relief, the tampons you like, and then hair conditioner. Okay, so we're packed with the lightest weight one bags we can imagine. Stuff them with packing cubes and only the most essential travel-sized versions of liquids. And we've got our dental floss, since, you know, it's so multi-use. But where are we going? What are we doing when we get there? How do we make the most of that?
Starting point is 00:09:58 Let's advance our trip, as they say in diplomatic or political parlance, with an advanced person for former President Barack Obama. I traveled with him to 42 countries and almost every state, which was incredible. Johanna Maska was director of press advance for President Obama from 2007 until 2015. The thing that advance people do is get to locations in advance, scout them out, and plan for what happens when big-name business people or politicians get to locations in advance, scout them out, and plan for what happens when big-name business people or politicians get there later. She plans for every possible contingency, including delicious ones. Like Buffalo, New York, for example. President Obama went to eat buffalo
Starting point is 00:10:38 wings in Buffalo. But before that ever happened, there were three of us, all women, who went to taste the buffalo wings at all the different three locations. But we weren't just trying to taste the best buffalo wings. We were figuring out which parking lot had enough room, which had a back entrance for the press to come through. And they had no idea. Like the restaurants are none the wiser that we're testing them to figure out where he's going to, you know, eat the buffalo wings. When it comes to planning ahead, we normals, we regular people don't have staff taste testing our meals in advance. But Johanna says you can apply some advanced principles to your own trip. Her tip is number five. Do a simple scope out of your destination with reliable sources, not sponsored content, not those paid for by the Convention and
Starting point is 00:11:34 Visitors Bureau pages in the in-flight magazines. Whether you've been there or not, someone has. The importance of looking at your sources of reliable information on a place. There's a lot of people who are paid to write about different places that you should go. That's probably not the most reliable source of information. I mean, look at what happened with Fyre Festival. Yeah, right? Like all these people signed up to, oh yeah, let's go do this. So let's don't do that. Steer clear of SpawnCon since it can go wrong.
Starting point is 00:12:08 And just because an Instagram tag or Instagram ads make places look pretty, do your homework. Independent reporting, content that isn't bought and paid for by the destination, is going to give you a more unvarnished look. I also think you should ask people if they've gone. I mean, that's the beauty in social media. Once you've figured out enough about where you're going, another advanced trick from Johanna is this. Align your activities with the weather forecast. That's tip number six.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Match your activity plans to the forecast. I always write it down on paper. So I map out where I'm going to be on which day, and then 10 days in advance when the weather is available, I start putting down the weather forecast. The weather forecast is the number one thing that I'm looking at, and then figuring out what I'm going to do on those days based on the weather forecast. So when we recently planned a little getaway for our family to Hawaii, I, you know, methodically planned out what day is it going to be good weather. So that's the day we should take the boat trip to, you know, the other
Starting point is 00:13:19 little island and making sure that you're maximizing your family's time together. And so I do it by figuring out the calendar. And aligning it with the weather. Or checking a destination's average monthly weather patterns in advance. Because weather can really, well, dampen things. Here's Jada Yuan. I was on a walking tour in La Paz, Bolivia, getting dumped on and I didn't have any of my rain gear. And there were several people on that tour who were all, they seemed to be much more seasoned travelers than I was.
Starting point is 00:13:56 And they just all immediately whipped out their rain jackets. And I was like, oh, oh, OK. So the thing that you always need to have on you is like a rain jacket, an umbrella, and a rain cover for your backpack. Takeaway six is plan for the weather. But if you didn't see the forecast, at least be prepared. Rain will always get you. Soggy or dry, world leaders typically have three stops in one travel day, or at least that's true for our advanced person, Johanna's former boss, President Obama. But for family travel or travel for pleasure, she says one main thing a day is enough. The last thing I want is for me not to be able to relax in a situation that's just so much fun because I've overbooked. You're sitting in traffic trying to get to the next one.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Yeah, I've overbooked everything and now I'm stressed out. That sucks. Which gets us to takeaway number seven, the one main thing rule. When traveling for leisure, keep it to one major activity per day. Then build complementary activities around it or just leave room for discovery. The unexpected, the surprises are part of the beauty of exploration. We did this vacation in March and we did a hike with a waterfall. We had the most delightful day and it was, there's no pressure because there's nothing else that you needed to do. It was just like, enjoy that day and then find some food on the
Starting point is 00:15:21 way home at, you know, like a cheap roadside stand, which we did. And it was delightful. How did you learn this whole one major thing a day rule? Because the president usually packs like 14 different things in his day. He didn't have a seven-year-old with him. All right, time for the takeaways. Let's recap. Takeaway number one, you never need as much stuff as you think. You can live with less and less stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Number two, reduce the weight and try and swap out heavier versions of things for lighter ones. Takeaway number three, and all the pros are using them. Packing cubes are the way to go. Takeaway number four, liquids will weigh you down. Number five, scope out your destination with reliable sources. Number six, match your activities to the forecast. Don't learn the hard way. Rain will always get you.
Starting point is 00:16:14 So be prepared. And our final takeaway, don't over-engineer your days. Remember the one main thing a day rule. slash life kit. And while you're there, subscribe to our newsletter so you don't miss an episode. And these podcasts, they can go wherever your phone goes. So leave your liquids at home, take us with you, and you can pack us in that one bag. And don't forget that dental floss. You can cut an umbilical cord with dental floss too, you know, so just in case you're ever in that situation. If I am in a situation where I have to emergency deliver a baby. There you go. And here is always a completely random tip.
Starting point is 00:17:09 This time from Life Kit's own Dr. Mara Gordon. If you rinse out the mug with hot water before you pour in your hot coffee, it heats up the mug so that the coffee doesn't get cold when you pour it into the mug and it stays hotter way longer. I love it. And we want to hear from you. Have you used a LifeKit tip in your own life? Email your story to us at lifekit at npr.org or tweet us at NPR
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