Life Kit - What a break from sex can teach you

Episode Date: June 30, 2025

Sex, and the pursuit of it, can feel amazing. But sometimes, cravings for sex lead to unhealthy obsessions, poor choices or a loss of identity. If you're struggling to see a way out of old dating patt...erns or if you want to pour more into yourself, Melissa Febos, author of The Dry Season, suggests taking a break. In this episode, Febos and others share the benefits they've gotten from temporary periods of celibacy and why you might want to try one too.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:29 Hey, it's Mariel. Today on the show, we are talking about sex. It's a part of life, and this is LifeKit after all. Now sex can be amazing, obviously. It can also be intoxicating. Not just the act itself, but the pursuit of it and everything that comes before it. The courtship part, the seduction part, the feeling that's generated in you, knowing that you're desired.
Starting point is 00:00:59 All sorts of delicious chemicals flood our brains throughout this process. Like once those little chemicals get released, suddenly I'm making different choices because I want to feel more of that. I want to keep the party going inside of me. This is Melissa Fibos, author of The Dry Season, a memoir of pleasure in a year without sex. So this craving for sex and seduction, it can sometimes lead us to a reckoning point, a point when what makes the most sense is to pull back.
Starting point is 00:01:32 For Melissa, that moment came in her 30s. She'd been in back-to-back relationships for most of her adult life. Basically, when I was 15, I started being preoccupied by romance and love and sex and those pursuits and how they made me feel about myself. And that was a huge preoccupation of mine for the next 20 years. And then she went through a devastating breakup, which was really a devastating relationship.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Where I had become so abject and obsessive and really kind of ruined my life. I had lost friends and crashed my car and my health had suffered and I had really just sort of gone completely off the rails and I thought, what is going on? How did I get here and why am I stuck in this pattern and how do I change? Some friends had suggested she take a break from dating and sex. And she says eventually she was in enough pain to try it. She started with three months, but then went a year without having sex. And the gifts that emerged from this time were bountiful.
Starting point is 00:02:39 A dry season, it was not. Everything else became so much more sensual. It was like my sensual and erotic capacity became expressed in so many other places. On this episode of Life Kit I talked to Melissa and others about the practice of celibacy, specifically taking a likely temporary break from sex. This episode isn't intended for people who are celibate for religious reasons only, although if that's you, you might find some wisdom here anyway. Melissa says celibacy can help you
Starting point is 00:03:14 understand yourself better, develop new patterns of behavior, and also reconnect with a partner. I could never have foreseen how profound that change would be. I could never have foreseen how profound that change would be. I could never have foreseen how it would literally change the entire course of my life. That's after the break. This message comes from WISE, the app for doing things and other currencies.
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Starting point is 00:04:01 A century of impact, a future of opportunity. More at kresge.org. When Melissa Fiebos was in her 30s, she went to something called a cuddle party, where people get together and plan to engage in some sort of non-sexual physical affection, like hugging or lying next to each other. There was a workshop on consent at the beginning, and they said, don't cuddle with anyone you don't want to. And yet, she cuddled with people she didn't want to. I thought, what the heck happened here?
Starting point is 00:04:32 Like, I'm a queer woman, I'm a feminist, I know all about consent. Why was I saying yes to spooning with strangers that I don't want to? And I sort of followed that question all the way back to my early, like, social education in sex, where I got all of this explicit and implicit messaging that it was just bad to disappoint people when they wanted something physically from you. And like I've had a lot of sex over the course of my life
Starting point is 00:04:57 that I didn't really want to have because I felt like I should. And taking a break from sex is a great way to sort of look at that and try to stop doing it. So one reason you might consider a celibate period is if you have patterns or behaviors that you're trying to change. Take away one, consider your intentions.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Why do you think a period of celibacy might be in order? If you're hoping to interrupt certain patterns or behaviors, what are they? And what role do you play in these dynamics? Journaling or making an inventory could help you figure that out. During Melissa's celibacy, she made a list of everyone she'd ever been with, sexually or romantically. And she asked herself some hard questions. Like where was I dishonest? How was I self-centered? Like what happened here? You know, I had a story about who I was in my past relationships and it was much more
Starting point is 00:05:56 heroic than what I saw when I did the inventory. Doing the inventory really showed me what I had to be accountable for and how I'd been complicit in every sort of romantic disaster of my life. For a lot of us, our patterns involve some form of self-betrayal, doing things you don't wanna do or that don't align with your values, or having intimate relationships
Starting point is 00:06:23 where you're not getting your needs met. One version of this is the person who wants to find a serious, committed partnership but keeps having sex with people who don't want that. If that's you and casual sex doesn't feel good to you, Trevor Hinds says a period of celibacy could help. I think at the end of the day, it's gonna give you the tools to value yourself,
Starting point is 00:06:42 love yourself, and look past that initial lust and surface level connections and go for the depth. And it also really repels everybody who's not interested in you for you. The ones who are for you, you'll be able to identify. Trevor is an artist in Canada, and he uses celibacy as a tool in his life. He once went celibate for three years. He says celibacy can also help you figure out all the things you love about yourself outside of your sex appeal. I think when I was younger, like in my early 20s, I kind of like led with a little bit
Starting point is 00:07:14 more ego and talent. But when I was celibate, it allowed me to identify with other qualities of myself, like being kind or compassion or my creativity. Another reason you might consider celibacy, it gives you the time to explore other interests and platonic relationships. There's a quote in Melissa's book where she says, time had always felt in short supply and it began to appear that it'd simply been splurging it on romance. During celibacy, she started spending more time with her friends and family. Her other relationships flourished.
Starting point is 00:07:46 I was going out dancing. I went out dancing more often that year than any other year of my life. And I was also having these long rambling phone conversations with my friends, kind of like when I was a teenager. She also got to know herself better. What she likes, what she doesn't. what she likes, what she doesn't. That I actually sometimes like to eat dinner at 11 p.m. and have a plate of like pickles and cheese and dried fruit, like some ancient Greek person or something. And that I actually liked to be alone a lot. I had no idea how much alone time I needed to be happy.
Starting point is 00:08:21 And I think I had needed it for years, that I'd actually been starved for it. So far, we've been talking about celibacy for folks who are single. But if you're in a romantic relationship, you can take periods of celibacy too. Melissa says those can offer a chance to reset. Even if you think about, like,
Starting point is 00:08:40 if you're having technical problems in your computer, restarting it is the solution to most things, right? And that's been true in life and it's true for a lot of people in life. Melissa is married now. And she and her wife have done this when she felt her thinking about sex was getting narrow, or she was having a lot of shoulds pop up in her mind around the topic. They'd take sex or certain parts of it off the table and focus on other kinds of physical intimacy. So these are some of the many reasons why you might consider celibacy. But yeah, let's say you're curious. You want to try it out. Takeaway two is to define what celibacy means to you. The
Starting point is 00:09:20 first question to ask yourself here is what are the rules? Right? What do you consider sex? Are you going to participate in any kind of romantic touch? Is kissing off the table? Masturbation? Trevor decided no sex, no romance, no masturbation. I wanted my focus to completely go somewhere else and not go to sex at all. So anything that really came under the umbrella of sex, I got rid of it. And even like
Starting point is 00:09:47 romance really for me was about focus. I wanted my focus to go inward instead of outward to woman. So for me, like those were my rules. Your rules might be different. During her one year celibacy, Melissa quit sex and romance, but not masturbation. She asked herself early on, is masturbation part of the problem for me? And the answer was no. The behaviors she wanted to change were ones that she exhibited with other people. My sexual relationship to myself was totally cool.
Starting point is 00:10:17 I had no problem with it. It felt very healthy to me. So I do think that, you know, sex is one of those areas where people have to define abstinence for themselves. They have to really get honest about where the issue is and where it isn't. Another question to ask yourself is do you want to set a time limit?
Starting point is 00:10:36 Trevor chose to be celibate for a year at the outset. I think a year is just like a cycle. And I felt like when I mentioned it to like my friends for some reason they thought like a year was crazy so I felt like okay a year is good a year seems like a good challenge. Melissa on the other hand chose three months at the start. That was as long as I could imagine not having sex and I was trying to work with myself you know and knew if I picked longer than that I probably wouldn't stick to it. Then at the three month mark, she extended her celibacy for another three months,
Starting point is 00:11:07 and then another three months. And then at nine months, she stopped setting deadlines. At that point, I was really comfortable, really happy with where I was, and I honestly had begun questioning if I would ever wanna be in a relationship or have sex again. And then, you know know things got interesting.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Then she met her future wife but we'll get back to that. Her advice for you, give yourself some sort of structure to start with but also start modestly. Angel Suarez is a licensed marriage and family therapist and a sex therapist in New York. They have some thoughts on this too. One is that time limits might make you feel safer, but they also might stress you out.
Starting point is 00:11:47 So I think based on the personality type, if you know that you need an end date or deadline for yourself to feel more in control of what's happening with you, then I think that would work. But if you actually want to just be celibate because you're feeling like I want a more connection with an individual, and that's when I'll know if I'm able to engage in sex again, then I think having a time structure will actually put more pressure into finding someone.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Okay, you figured out your celibacy rules and you're ready to get started. Takeaway three, expect some discomfort at the beginning of your celibate period. Understand that you might break your own rules. That doesn't mean you should stop. Early in your celibacy, you might be tempted to go back to the same patterns you're trying to break. This can be a really powerful urge, especially if you don't know what to do when it happens. For instance, if you've decided not to have sex or to masturbate, what do you do if you get turned on? Trevor was reading a lot of spiritual texts during his celibacy. And one idea he came across that really resonated with him is that sexual energy and creative
Starting point is 00:12:52 energy can be the same. So what he did, and what he suggests you do, is expect that your body might feel cravings. You can identify that just as like energy and now you can ask yourself, well, where do you want to place this? It doesn't have to go to the sneaky link or it doesn't have to go to a website because most likely there's studies you'd like to focus on or a creative project you'd like to do or a business you want to build or whatever it may be. Maybe it's your body. You want to take a boxing lessons.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Like all of that energy can truly just be transferred into another activity. Here's the other thing to know. You might break your own rules. Trevor did in the first 45 days of his celibacy. He was out partying and saw someone he knew. And then we ended up having sex and I woke up and I remember I just felt so upset with myself that I broke this like vow to myself and I was like well why did I break this bow? I was like well I was under the influence of alcohol. Which brought him to a realization. A lot of the time he felt like he needed a drink to have sex. And I was like well that means you're not even really comfortable. You're not even really comfortable that you
Starting point is 00:13:58 need liquor confidence to even go there with this person. So which means you're not comfortable with this experience at all but for some reason you feel like you have to. And I didn't realize that until I was celibate. He decided to quit drinking too. Trevor says there's nothing wrong with failing at your celibacy and feeling regret because those broken promises to ourselves give us information.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Any goal you set, you're going to stumble and fall. And I think it's just important to identify like how did you sway? And that will teach you more about yourself. Any goal you set, you're going to stumble and fall. And I think it's just important to identify, like, how did you sway? And that will teach you more about yourself. Angel Suarez asks that if you do fall short of your celibacy goals, you show yourself some grace. Really, you know, everyone else in this world
Starting point is 00:14:37 sometimes is very critical of ourselves. We're growing. And so how do we act with love for ourselves when we make mistakes or we go against our value of what we're trying to work for in celibacy. All right, time for takeaway four. Appreciate the gifts that celibacy brings. One reason I think that people enjoy sex is that it can be at its best a moment to slow down and appreciate the sublime, to touch another person's body, really look at it.
Starting point is 00:15:10 The beauty mark they have that looks like a thousand stars exploding across their back or the scar they have that tells you some story about their life or the way their eyes sparkle. It's like they become a work of art and you become a work of art and you get a chance to play and appreciate each other. It's like they become a work of art and you become a work of art and you get a chance to play and appreciate each other. It's easy to forget that there are other pathways to those sensations. When you take sex out of the picture, at least momentarily, you realize, you know, I could get really into this raspberry that I'm eating right now. That ability to slow down and marvel at things and cultivate curiosity for them and appreciate
Starting point is 00:15:48 the intricate design of a raspberry or a hydrangea or my own hands, you know, or my pet. We all have the capability to sort of slow down. It is maybe the most beautiful application of our self-consciousness that we can appreciate other things. In her book, Melissa says, I had been thinking of this time as a dry season, but it had been the most fertile of my life since childhood. Another gift that celibacy offers is it can allow you to detach yourself from what other people think about your appearance. Melissa says she'd been wearing heels
Starting point is 00:16:25 since she was a teenager, because she's short and she thought they made pants look better on her. And by better, what I meant is they made my body look more like I had learned would attract other people slash men, even though I wasn't even trying to attract men. That was still buried in there.
Starting point is 00:16:42 And buried beneath it was this belief, like, if I can't appear attractive or lovable or sexually viable to strangers, then that's a bad day. Without that pressure, she started wearing sneakers every day. She stopped wearing makeup. That doesn't mean she never wears those things now, but she feels more aware of her choices and what she actually likes and wants. Yet another gift of celibacy is that over time, Melissa learned that she could do something that once seemed impossible, saying a firm no. A warning here, we're about to talk about an instance of someone pressuring another person to have sex. Melissa was at a conference
Starting point is 00:17:25 with a fellow writer who wanted to have sex with her. The writer was drunk and didn't want to take no for an answer. What Melissa might have done in the past would have been to cave and give the writer what she wanted to avoid embarrassing her. But she says in the book, I knew that the alternative was also a kind of mortification, a submission to something that would hurt me. Right up until the moment I did something different in my mind I was like, oh no, oh no, oh no, like I'm definitely going to do what I've done every other time, but there was this little scrap of gumption that was like, no, we don't want to. And then the moment when I do something different
Starting point is 00:18:05 feels in a way like a moment of grace, like something becomes possible that was not possible before. After a while, Melissa felt that she might be celibate forever. I really felt so fulfilled. And I thought if being with other people is risking what I have found in my celibacy, I'm not
Starting point is 00:18:25 willing to give it up. So I just sort of like stepped into the future as a celibate person. Then she met her now wife, a poet, who she started a correspondence with after loving her latest book. Their connection wasn't romantic at first, but it turned out to be. Takeaway five. If you want to end your celibacy, do it thoughtfully. Trevor had a similar experience in that he didn't step out of celibacy until he met someone he was really interested in.
Starting point is 00:18:56 It really just kind of happened naturally. Like, I just met somebody and it was through conversation. I was just like, I want to explore this person. And I was really interested about their mind. They're a very beautiful person. But like, I was just like, I wanna explore this person. And I was really interested about their mind. They're a very beautiful person, but like, I was just really interested in this person. The way I'm talking about all this might make it sound easy. Seamless, like a fairy tale ending.
Starting point is 00:19:15 It was hard. They were both afraid of what ending celibacy would mean. Trevor was afraid to have sex. Am I even gonna be able to have sex? Am I even gonna be good at it? Like, there was so much fear around it. But like being with someone that one, who I told them, like my journey and everything, and they respected it and then also just highly respecting this person for who they are in their mind
Starting point is 00:19:36 made it a lot easier to take that stuff when like we did go there. And Melissa, she didn't want to lose the beautiful life she'd built or all the gifts that came with celibacy. In the book, she talks about the first time she and the poet had lunch. She was acutely aware of her attraction to the poet as they walked to a café. So she turned her attention to her surroundings. The trees, the people, the smell of french fries wafting through the air. I was here, in my body, in the city of Washington, D.C., walking down the sidewalk beside a tall stranger, she says.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Choices, all the way. Holding onto herself within this committed relationship has required some work. She's had to find aloneness, even in the company of a loving partner, and to protect the space she built for herself without pushing her wife away. Now, no one can tell you when the right time is
Starting point is 00:20:30 for you to end your celibacy, but Angel gives this rule of thumb. I definitely think that when people know they're ready is when they're making the healthiest choice for themselves. They say if you have a lot of doubts coming up, that could be a sign that you're not ready, that you have more internal work to do. One thing Trevor cautions is that we shouldn't stay in celibacy out of fear. Because you can sit in fear and then the
Starting point is 00:20:53 journey is gonna be doing the opposite from transformation. Now you're gonna be like you've created your own prison in your own cage and I think most people will know when they've hit that point because at the end of the day, I think most people step into celibacy to strengthen the connection with themselves. And naturally, you're going to want to share that love that you have for yourself with somebody else. Okay, time for a recap. Takeaway one. Consider your intentions. Why do you think a period of celibacy might be in order?
Starting point is 00:21:33 Are there patterns you're trying to break? Are you hoping to reconnect with a partner? Journaling or making an inventory could help you figure out what you're trying to change. Takeaway two is to define what celibacy means to you. What do you consider sex? Does kissing count? What about masturbation? And do you want to set a time limit?
Starting point is 00:21:53 Takeaway three, expect some discomfort at the beginning of your celibate period. Expect that you might break your own rules. That doesn't mean you should stop. Takeaway four, appreciate the many gifts that celibacy brings. And take away five, end your celibacy thoughtfully and when you're ready. For more LifeKit, check out our other episodes. We've got one on how to know if you're in a codependent relationship
Starting point is 00:22:20 and another on how to have conversations around consent. You can find those at npr.org Slash life kit and if you love life kit and want even more subscribe to our newsletter at npr.org Slash life kit newsletter also we love hearing from you So if you have episode ideas or feedback you want to share email us at life kit at npr.org This episode of life kit was produced by Margaret Serino our visuals is Bac Harlan and our digital editor is Malika Garib. Megan Cain is our senior supervising editor and Beth Donovan is our executive producer. Our production team also includes Andy Tagel, Claire Marie Schneider and Sylvie Douglas.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Engineering support comes from Simon Laszlo Jansen. I'm Mariel Sagarra. Thanks for listening.

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