Locked On Hawkeyes - Daily Podcast On Iowa Hawkeyes Football & Basketball - 2019 NFL Draft Trilogy Pt. 3 featuring Sayre Bedinger and Nick Kendell: Ross Reynolds, Nick Easley, Parker Hesse and more!

Episode Date: April 25, 2019

We are bringing a special three show series covering all eligible Iowa Hawkeyes in this week's 2019 NFL Draft and we brought on special guests Nick Kendell and Sayre Bedinger to bring you information directly from the experts. Today's episode if the finale of our series where we finish discussing all remaining Iowa Hawkeyes prospects including Outback Bowl MVP Nick Easley, interior o-lineman Ross Reynolds, defensive end Parker Hesse, and more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You are listening to the Locked On Hawkeyes podcast, your daily podcast covering the Iowa Hawkeyes for the Locked On Sports Network, hosted by Andrew Wade, editor at dearoldgold.com. It is a beautiful Thursday morning, and we are back with another episode of the Locked On Hawkeyes podcast, a part of the Locked On Sports Network. I'm your host, Andrew Wade, editor over at dearoldgold.com, and we are bringing you the final episode of our three-part trilogy covering the NFL Draft and your beloved Iowa Hawkeyes with Nick Kendall and Sarah Bettinger. Nick is from Mile High Huddle. He's a draft analyst over there covering the Denver Broncos, but he specifically covers the NFL Draft for them,

and he loves the Iowa Hawkeyes. He did graduate from the University of Iowa with a master's and currently lives in Iowa City, so he follows them very closely. Sarah Bettinger is an editor over at NFL Mocs covering the NFL draft, and he is a huge Iowa Hawkeye fan, grew up an avid Iowa Hawkeye fan. Family members went there from the state of Iowa as well. So both guys are experts in their field and couldn't be better guests to have on the show to talk to you about the NFL draft and the Iowa Hawkeyes, who are going to be looking to find out their future starting tonight. And we have Noah Fant, TJ Hawkinson, who are likely going to be drafted tonight.

We have Anthony Nelson and Imani Hooker that are likely going to be drafted on Friday evening. And then we finally wrap up on Saturdays with the final three rounds of the NFL draft. Excuse me, the final four rounds, the NFL draft, rounds four through seven, where we might find out the futures of a Nick Easley, a Ross Reynolds, those kind of guys. If not, we're going to be finding out about it very quickly after with the frenzy that is undrafted free agency. If you are tuning in for the very first time today,

make sure you like and subscribe to this podcast, wherever you downloaded this podcast at, and make sure to tune in to Tuesday's episode, where we covered Noah Fant and TJ Hawkinson, and make sure to tune in to Wednesday's episode, where we covered Noah Fant and TJ Hawkinson. And make sure to tune into Wednesday's episode where we covered Anthony Nelson and Imani Hooker. If you love the NFL draft, those are two episodes that you do not

want to miss on the Locked on Hawkeyes podcast. And if you do like some of our play interviews, make sure to tune into some of the other interviews that we've had before. We talked to Givante Martin-Manley last week. We also talked to a four-star quarterback recruit to the Iowa Hawkeyes, Deuce Hogan, just a few weeks ago as well. So if you like what you're listening to, we've had great content the last couple weeks,

and we have a lot more awesome stuff coming at you over the coming weeks. So definitely appreciate you tuning in and listening to the Lockdown Hawkeyes podcast. But that being said, let's jump right into it. Let's tune in right now to the information and the conversation that we were given in talking to Nick Kendall and Sarah Bettinger from Mile High Huddle and NFL Mocs. We're going to be talking to them right now about the guys who are going to be projected to be drafted either late on day three or as part of the undrafted free agency frenzy that's going to be taking place immediately after the NFL draft. So let's jump right into it today, right now. Now I want to focus on some of the lesser known guys, you know, the guys that Iowa Hawkeye fans know, but NFL draft analysts are not talking about nearly as much. And, you know, we only have about 20 minutes here. So we're going to go through some

of these pretty quickly. Ross Reynolds had a great pro day, put up a lot of reps on the bench press 27 times at 225 pounds. You know, he's been mocked. I saw Matt Miller mock him in the late seventh round. And we've talked about this. I've talked about this with both of you guys, but Iowa offensive linemen typically get a chance just because they're coming from such a good offensive line coach, you know, with Kirk Ferentz and Brian Ferentz having that, you know, that familiarity with the NFL blocking schemes and whatnot. They're coming from a pro-style offense.

That translates really well. Do you think Ross Reynolds, and maybe we'll include Keegan Render in there, although I think they're definitely different players, do you think they find their way into the back end of the seventh round? I think that Reynolds will, although I can't speak to his versatility, he's going to have to show that he can also snap the ball and play center at his size. And multiplicity for offensive linemen, unless you're that true and blue left tackle,

then you probably need to be able to play multiple spots. And I can't speak to that, but with how I was told he tested at the pro day and looked at the pro day, and again, coming from that Iowa pedigree, especially working with Polsek and Kirk Ferentz and that zone blocking scheme, somebody will take him, whether it be six-round or seven-round, just a scheme fit, and you're going to get a pretty safe player there, and why not take a flyer on a guy like that? Again, that's turning the Denver Bronco Iowa Hawkeye podcast,

but again, Denver has a lot of needs on the interior offensive line they're going to run a zone system seems like a perfect fit round seven for them but they have the who's picked are they having the seventh round it's somebody picking very late i think it's houston they have houston seventh round pick so makes a lot of sense there keegan render he's another guy i do think he has some versatility as well smart player probably a priority free agent but but whether he makes a 53 or is a practice squad, he's going to be making some money playing football, in my opinion. Not the athlete that Reynolds is. You see Reynolds run that zone stretch, and he moves pretty darn well.

Not overpowering, despite what the bench press says on tape, but the athleticism, the functional strength, I think, are more than fine, and he'll find some team if he can latch onto his own blocking team, especially if he can show that he can play center. Yeah, I definitely agree on both accounts, and like Nick said, multiplicity on the offensive line is such a big deal, especially in today's NFL where some teams aren't keeping as many guys, but they're definitely asking guys to play multiple positions if if the need should arise and so the more you

can do the better and so with with both of these guys I think that's I think that's the key is they're well coached players they uh they're coming from you know a place where they're getting great training uh great development, and that's valuable in today's NFL. These guys are both – they both have some experience. Not a lot for Reynolds, but they've got some experience, and they're going to come highly regarded from a Kirk Ferentz team. That's important.

It's all about who you know in the NFL, and so these guys have have that advantage and they also have the advantage of guys who have gone before them you know offensive lineman from Iowa that's kind of just something even even the non-Iowa people know that if you're an Iowa offensive lineman you're going to get a look so even if they're late round picks or priority free agents they're going to get a chance they're going to get a shot to provide some team with some depth yeah I, I mean, just look at last year. Ike Bucker injures himself early in the season, still gets a tryout, and now is on the 53-man squad for the Buffalo Bills. I mean, Dan Doering a few years ago, five-star recruit, barely played at Iowa and still got a tryout in the NFL

just because he's an offensive lineman from the Iowa Hawkeyes. So that will definitely be some interesting storylines to watch. Austin Blythe. Austin Blythe, I mean, he was a seventh-round pick for the Colts, right, and then got cut, and now he's one of the top guards in the NFL. Yeah, despite his Super Bowl performance, which was a little lower. But, yeah, no, that's the guy who comes to mind. I mean, if Austin Blythe can latch on to that zone team and center guard versatility, I mean, that's, that's the blueprint.

I love it. And so turning, turning some of the focus to the wide receivers now, and you guys both know, um, I talk a lot about Nick Easley. Um, I'm always going to talk a lot about him and until he eventually becomes irrelevant, which I hope is not anytime soon, but Nick Easley and Kyle Gronowig, you know, both had pretty fantastic pro days. Nick Easley, we've talked about this, Nick, you know, he was, we were told that he was going to run really well, um, and a lot of different metrics, you know, and measurements and whatnot. And he, he basically did that, um, turned in a sub seven short shuttle time, which I believe I tweeted out that was actually better than all but one person's short shuttle time in the, you know, in the combine, which is incredible. Same with the

three cone drill. You know, he was in the top five if it was comparing to the combine, combine performances and both of those, you know, metrics and measurables and whatnot. He doesn't have as much of that straight line speed. Obviously he ran a mid four or five 40 yard dash. One of the, one of the mid-4, 5, 40-yard dash. One of the interesting comparisons, though, for him is when you look at mock draftable and try to match up what would make sense for him, right, what makes sense for Nick Easley, he very much tested just the same as Julian Edelman did when he was coming out of school. And I think he fits that mold pretty well of that slot receiver, a guy who probably isn't going to be drafted,

but could find his way on an NFL roster and do pretty well. So wanted to get your thoughts on Nick Easley first before we touch on Kyle Gronowig briefly. But do you feel like there's a spot for Nick Easley if he enters the right scheme as a slot receiver in today's NFL? Well, I mean, we saw what Adam Humphreys and Cole Beasley just got paid on the open market. You know, the points that we made earlier about tight end

kind of becoming a more specialized position, that's even more true for wide receivers. You know, the classic team-building cliche is you want to build a wide receiver course or a wide receiver squad like a basketball team. You know, you got your guys who go above the rim and kind of do that. You got your slashers, and you got your ball handlers, and he's a classic point guard for a team. You know, you got your guys who go above the rim and kind of do that. You got your slashers and you got your ball handlers and he's a classic point guard for a team. I'd love to have him in a team like New England. I mean, I'm not a New England fan by any means, but that makes a lot of sense. But any team looking for that classic, you know, short, quick slot that can get

open in a hurry that can get you that third and two and uncover quickly. Perfect fit. So whether he's a late seventh round pick, mid seventh seventh round pick late seventh round pick or priority free agent he's another guy that is going to find a role and make some money in this league we'll see how big of a role he can get he's going to have to get a chance you know again covering the broncos another guy like that river cray craft there's a lot of those guys in this league that can fill that role but if he can show that and that speed does translate beyond that pro day which i mean mean, we saw on tape, I think he would have even been more utilized if I wouldn't have such great tight ends this past year,

because I mean, you have the choice between playing two tight ends or playing easily in the slot. You're probably playing the two tight ends. So that's something that I'll be looking forward to, but I, I think he could have a long and really solid career. Am I going to call him Julian Elliman though?

That probably not, but you might want to hold off on that considering he's a super bowl mvp but yeah yeah i mean yeah i agree with that i mean another option i think could be a good fit for him is potentially the debts with adam gaze and we saw what he did with west welker down and you know in denver and whatnot he just had a tryout with the buffalo bills so some other teams to keep in mind sarah what are your thoughts on Nick Easley? Yeah, I'm looking at the pro day numbers right now, and I'm pretty – this is the first time I'm seeing him, so I'm pretty blown away by this. They're incredible, man.

Yeah, this is great stuff. So he's well built at 5'11", 203, the 36-inch vertical, obviously very explosive. The 6'5", 5'3", cone, that really stands out as – I mean, that is – that's a pretty crazy number. So, I mean, five, five, and the three cone that really stands out as, I mean, that is, that's a pretty crazy number. So, I mean, you're talking about, I was lying, but always take pro day numbers with a small grain of salt. Yeah, that's, that's true. Even, I guess, even if you knock, you know, two tenths of a second off that, that's still, still really good. So, I mean,

you're talking about elite quickness and talking about really good explosiveness with good size. That's, that's pretty impressive. So if you get him into a program that you've, especially with an established quarterback too, you got a guy, if you get a guy like that into an offense where the quarterback knows how to, how to use a slot, how to, and a guy like that who can create separation with quickness that guy can be a weapon for you and so and we've seen it i mean obviously not everyone is julian edelman but let's not forget julian edelman was a seventh round draft pick former quarterback at kent state who if he had gone to any team besides the patriots would he have amounted to anything i mean that's

hard to say because we we don't really know I mean, he went into a perfect situation and worked his butt off and did what he does well. I mean, those guys stay in their element. Wes Walker, he was always in his element. He didn't have to be somebody else that he wasn't. He was able to just be a great slot receiver for many years. And thankfully for those guys in the NFL today, like you said, with Humphreys and Beasley,

even Golden Tate, that position has been glamorized really now and it's being heavily utilized. So there's definitely a place for a guy like that, especially with that kind of explosiveness and quickness in today's NFL. Yeah. And another guy who had some pretty explosive times was Kyle Grunewig, which I think kind of came out of nowhere. He ran a 4-4-3-4-D-R dash, had a 6-7-6 three-cone drill and a 4-0-8 shuttle drill, checking in at 5'9". When I was looking at mock draft, well, this was kind of an interesting comparison, but he almost closely, most closely resembled Devin Hester in terms of his actual measurables. That being said, I didn't see a lot of that explosiveness on film. I didn't see a lot of that explosiveness on film. I didn't see a lot of that in the return game,

and he didn't offer as much at wide receiver. I think when people kind of talk about wide receivers coming out of nowhere from the Iowa Hawkeye program, they typically refer back to Riley McCarron, who ran a 4'3", 640-yard dash, I believe. Do you think running that 4'4", three 40 is enough to get him at least a camp spot? And do you think there's even a chance that he makes, you know, maybe a practice squad? Because I just think he didn't, he didn't show much on tape at all this year. And I didn't,

I personally would have rather had a mere Smith more set in the return game than Kyle. Yeah, for me, I think it's going to have to be special teams that really makes him his due you know that's that's got to be what it is so just because the tape isn't really there you know the sample sizes and they're probably would have been maybe you know cover your ears iowa fans but maybe it would have been better off going to a team that's a little bit more pass happy and uses the wide receivers more but uh he's got a chance but it's gonna have to be

special teams where he makes his mark yeah i definitely agree with that especially you know if you've got that kind of speed and and quickness i mean that's where you can really make your money at least to start and so and there's nothing wrong with that you know if that's the way that you can make a 53 you can make enough plays in preseason and training camp and prove that you're worthy of a top 53 spot or at least you know that 54 and prove that you're worthy of a top 53 spot or at least that 54, 55 range where you're one of the top guys in the practice squad that if somebody gets hurt, they're looking to bring you up because you can contribute right away on game day.

So that's what those guys have to do, the Kyle Groneweg types. I mean, you've got to prove that you can be valuable in case a team needs you. And so he's got a long road ahead of him for sure, not having the tape to go along with those measurables. But definitely those traits are worth looking into for some team. Yeah. And to keep it – I mean, I don't disagree at all. A couple other guys in this list are going to be in that same kind of boat,

I think, of whether or not they're going to get even kind of a shot. We're not going to talk about them a lot but we have brady ross the fullback had a 39.5 inch vertical which was uh eye-popping considering you know he's 250 pounds um big bulking guy at 5 foot 11 i believe and then sam brinks um struggled at his pro day injured you know hurt his hamstring didn't get to compete in all the drills, but likely he'll be lucky to get, you know, even a, a kind of a training camp invite or a tryout. I don't,

you know, don't foresee him going very far. So we're going to skip past those guys. But another guy who tested pretty well, like Grunawig was Jake Jervas. And when you look at, it was interesting when you type in mock draftable and you type in a Monty Hooker,

his times were almost exactly the same as Jake Gervais', which I thought was pretty funny, all things considered. I didn't see that athleticism as much with Jake Gervais', but they had the exact same 40-yard dash, pretty similar verticals, three-cone drills, and the only difference is Imani Hooker's a little bit shorter than Jake Gervais'. From a playing standpoint, I think Iowa fans have been frustrated. I think with Jervais' play in the past, he struggled early in his career.

Even in the, you know, even in the Outback Bowl, had a drop here and there, but also made some pretty big plays. Do you think his only role in the NFL is probably going to be special teams? And do you think, you know, running a 4'4", 8", 40-yard dash at 6'1", 210 pounds, is that enough to get him a camp invite? He'll definitely get a camp invite. I think if he would have ran a 4-5, he would have got a camp invite. I mean, a lot of people that I've spoken with,

he's a Davenport Assumption High School graduate, I do believe, and a lot of people speak highly of his intelligence. You know, listening to him talk, you can definitely tell that he is a – he's an adult out there, which is – I mean, a lot of nfl coaches will appreciate that especially when you're trying to run practices and whatnot in the summer he's going to come in and do his job again grain of salt with the the pro day numbers because those tend to be favorable to the player and the school that's hosting but i think that he showed enough and he was he was all over the field in that mississippi state game really good player in there i think he had a pretty big interception in that game as well if i do recall but no he's

definitely a guy that i don't think we'll see hear his name on draft day but he's going to get a chance he'll be a priority free agent and hopefully he'll be on the roster for a while and maybe makes a practice squad maybe even makes it 53 we'll see. But I think that the athleticism, the tools, and the intelligence that you want from a heavy position like safety is all there. Am I expecting him to be a starter in the NFL? Probably not. But I think, again, another guy who's going to get a real chance

to make money playing football. Yeah, absolutely. Anytime you post those kind of numbers, there's a chance. And it kind of reminds me of a situation last year or was it two years ago now with ben neiman i know they don't play the same position but kind of an underrated guy throughout even his time at iowa he was kind of overshadowed by the other linebackers there did a lot of things really well tested really well at the pro days similar type of way was an undrafted player for Kansas City and ended

up making their squad and playing a decent role for the team so and he may and he probably got a role going forward as well so that's the type of if you're if you're just a smart heady player you do your job you're athletic enough to keep up with the other guys in the league you know those are the type of guys that do make and they make 53-man rosters ultimately is what they do. And even if he's a practice squad guy right away, you've got a chance with those measurables, that experience he got at Iowa, the work ethic, the intelligence, it all adds up. And coaches love that.

Yeah, I mean, I think he'd be a a good at least a good camp addition you know we saw bo bauer at devon bronco's camp last year um at least a body in camp and probably going to make it a little bit farther than you know than bo did um the other two guys on this list of people we want to cover on today's show we're kind of running close in the time here but on the defensive line matt nelson and parker hessian i'm going to start with parker hessie first because i think what was interesting about his pro day was that he worked out as not just a defensive end, but also a full back and a tight end. I'm going to pop this question up for both of you. Do you think he plays tight end or full back in the NFL, or do you think he sticks a defensive end?

And I guess part two of that question, with that versatility, does that make him more attractive or, and I think that's a pretty obvious answer, but does that make him more attractive as a prospect? Well, it just means he's more likely to help your team in a multitude of ways. You know, there's, he's just trying to find a niche and a role. And I probably would keep him at edge personally, especially with his run defense. I don't know if he has the juice that you're looking for as that pass rusher there but i i'm fine with him at edge but i mean again he's a guy that kirk ference would go to bat for i mean every single time you know reporters and what i would

try to bring up a japanessa kirk would be like well you know parker hesse's really good so that speaks really loudly about the character of the kid i i wouldn't be surprised at all again a lot of these guys the nfl draft used to be many more rounds, and now you've got this flurry of activity afterwards where all these undrafted guys get picked up. He'll probably be an undrafted guy. I mean, if Ben Neiman is not even drafted. He wasn't drafted, right? He was undrafted free agent.

Yep, he was undrafted. Yeah, silly. That doesn't make any sense. But if he's not drafted, then probably you don't see a guy like Hesse drafted, but he's going to have a chance to, again, make money playing football, and I would probably take him over Jervis even. But I value that defensive line probably more than I should. I think anyone who follows you on Twitter knows you love pass rushers.

Go hit the quarterback. Go hit the quarterback. That's why I'm an FNS is my guy. Okay, continue. Sorry. What is your take on Parker Hesse? Yeah, absolutely. I think he's worth bringing into an NFL camp, What is your take on Parker Hesse? Yeah, absolutely.

I think he's worth bringing into an NFL camp, especially if teams are asking him to try out at those positions. You know that they've thought about ways to use him already, which is an indicator that there's interest. And so even if it is as an undrafted player, this is a guy that they've seen some things on tape that they like. They feel that they can maybe use him two ways. We know a guy like this is going to have to, again, you're going to have to make your way, contributing somehow on special teams.

So if you can do some things as a fullback or as a tight end, catching some passes, whatever the case may be, in addition to playing some defensive line and being part of the rotation there, I know that he did a good job with that at Iowa. Not necessarily on the level of Epinesa, of course, but he did some good things and he put some good things on tape. And so there's definitely a role for a player like that. Like Nick's been saying, he's going to make some money playing football and it just depends on what team prioritizes that versatility. Yeah. And to kind of wrap it up, you know, Matt Nelson is another guy who

people are kind of wondering where he fits into today's NFL. I think he's a little bit small on the weight size for playing inside. Didn't get as much tape on him playing at the edge position. And also incredibly tall as well, just like the Anthony Nelson mold, but not in that same athleticism build as him. Do you think he has a shot on an active roster? Or, you know, is he just – is he unfortunately just kind of a weird, awkward size and he's going to probably just end up being a doctor? Not a bad way to go.

Yeah, I mean, at least you could have worse second options. Yeah, probably. I mean, he had a pretty have worse second options. Yeah, probably. I mean, he had a pretty good sack in that Iowa State game. He does have some size to him. I mean, honestly, again, another guy that I think maybe would be better off playing offensive line, playing offensive tackle, but they needed bodies at defensive tackle. But he's just so tall. He doesn't really have that girth that you're looking for

for that defensive tackle unless you're a five technique kind of guy that has some burst. But I don't really see that with him. So again, he'll probably get a chance to make a roster, but I think he probably ends up going the medical school route when it's all said and done. Yeah. Do you think he has the athleticism to play? I mean, I've heard that as well. It talks about moving him to the offensive line. The Chiefs did it a few years back with McKenzie's son. But do you think – is it likely – is it a good enough chance that he would be – someone would be willing to waste – not waste, spend a practice squad spot on him to keep him kind of progressing

towards that? Or is it at this point, if he doesn't – he probably isn't going to be able to even do that, even in camp, or show the abilities in camp to do that? He's a guy that would have benefited tremendously from the AAF, unfortunately. That kind of guy. Rest in peace. Yeah, right. Rip. But probably not. And also, I don't know how long he would really care to toil at that if it isn't progressing so well when he has such an option as medical school looking to be an orthopedic surgeon. So I think he could, but he has other options that

are more obtainable, but you know, smart kid really highly thought of in the program. I'm not going to bet against him. Yeah. I kind of feel the same way. You know, you just give the guy a shot in camp, see if he can stand out, see if he can make some plays, and that's really all there is to it. I mean, ultimately, if he gets into an NFL camp, those measurables kind of go out the window unless he starts getting clearly overmatched. And if some team sees the potential in him as an offensive tackle and sees some sweet feet in him or whatever the case may be,

you maybe give it a shot. But if he's really diehard into football, you guys, you know, the XFL, February 2020, I mean, if we're looking at a developmental league, you never know. I mean, Vince McMahon wants high-character guys. Apparently you can't have been arrested ever. So that would fit pretty well for Matt Nelson. Mm-hmm.

I love it. Well, hopefully that league will actually stick around for. Mm-hmm. I love it. Well, hopefully that league will actually stick around for longer than a year. I'm bummed that the AAF folded. I think it folded prematurely, and they probably should have got a better partner in there who was more willing to see it through some of the riskier times. But that's another story for another day. Nick and Sarah, I do appreciate you jumping on the show today.

Obviously, it took an hour and 15 minutes out of your day to help give locked on Hawkeye fans an opportunity to kind of get a feel for what to expect in the draft that's going to be at this point as this airs coming up this week. So I'm really excited for the NFL draft. There's a lot of Iowa Hawkeyes who are going to be making NFL or, you know, signing with NFL teams, getting drafted with NFL teams, I think more so than we've seen in some of the past years. So a really exciting time for Iowa Hawkeye fans all over. Nick Sayre, do you guys have any last parting words of wisdom that you would like to

share with the Locked on Hawkeyes podcast crew? Nothing really, you know, just appreciate the ride and appreciate coming on here. Any chance we can talk football, you guys can find me on Twitter at Nick Kendall, MHH. It's K-E-N-D-E-L-L. If you ever have any questions about football, I'm pretty active on there. And I like to think I'm pretty nice on there.

You know, that reputation of being Iowa nice, got to hold that up. But yeah, just ready for football to get here. And once the draft's over, I'm going to be a sad dude for a little bit. You know, those months from May to July are the down months. I'll be, I'll be outside fishing, disc golfing, trying to enjoy the weather, but man, football 365 days a year is what I'm about. Yeah. And real quick, I have a question for you. You talked about preparing for the 2020 draft real quick. AJ Epinesa, top 10. Oh yeah. Yeah. Absolute freak. I do worry a little bit about the depth at edge for the hawkeyes

just because you know you got to keep him fresh and if you're having him out there playing really tough sound run defense then that can kind of limit how much juice he has left on those third downs but i mean the size he plays with the power the the hand usage i mean even the bend at his size i think there's there's no doubt that, in my opinion, barring injury, knock on wood, but I think that he is definitely a top 10 talent, and he will be in discussion as edge one next year with Chase Young from Ohio State,

who's a little bit more twitchy, but doesn't have the power and overall size that Epinesa possesses. But also, don't sleep on Golston. I'm really high on him as well. Yeah, I think he has a lot of potential as well.'m excited to see i mean the hawks have a lot of guys coming up that people don't realize how you know have great potential futures in the nfl which we will talk about on another day as well i'm excited to obviously start covering the 2020

nfl draft with the iowa hawkeyes as well so and thank you nick for jumping on i do appreciate that sarah any last parting words for you, buddy? Yeah. Like Nick said, I'm super thankful to be on here. I am the mean guy on Twitter. Just kidding. I love interacting with people. I love to

just talk whatever. If it's football, if it's Hawkeyes, Broncos, doesn't matter. I know Nick's a Cardinals fan. So if we need to just pray for healing for him in that regard, I like to do that on Twitter as well. But it's, no, it's, it's a fun ride, man. It's, it's cool that we get to be connected in this way.

You know, we get to be connected through social media, through Twitter, through sports. It's such a powerful thing, you know, like, uh, it's, it's just fun. It's, it's amazing that from all different parts of the country, some people from even, you know, all over the world are interacting here at the same exact time. It's just so much fun. So for all those who are listening out there, just continue to enjoy the ride, be civil, uh, but, but, uh, have fun with it and, and don't let, don't just follow the crowd. Have fun with it.

Form your own opinions and go Hawkeyes. And don't take yourself too seriously. Don't be a jerk. Don't take yourself too seriously. Exactly. Exactly. All right. That concludes our finale of the NFL Draft Trilogy.

If you've been with us the last three days, we appreciate you jumping on. I hope you loved the content that we gave you. Obviously, couldn't have found better experts to come on the show and talk to us about the Iowa Hawkeyes and the NFL Draft. A big shout out to Sarah and Nick. Really appreciate them taking the time out of their busy days. They did this free of charge because they're good people. They love the Iowa Hawkeyes and they love talking about the NFL Draft. So again, a big shout-out to them. Make sure to follow them on Twitter if you are not already. I oftentimes retweet most of their stuff from both my personal account,

Wade underscore Andrew, and our Locked on Hawkeyes Twitter account, which is Locked on Iowa. If you like what you listen to, make sure you also are liking and subscribing to this podcast wherever you got it from so you can get the content that we're going to be producing going forward, especially our Friday morning, Saturday morning, and Sunday morning recaps of kind of what happened in the NFL draft for those previous days. So lots of great stuff coming your way on the Locked on Hawkeyes podcast, and I appreciate you tuning in with us for this trilogy and for the ride that has been the Locked on Hawkeyes

podcast. Have a great day, Hawkeye Nation, and we'll be back tomorrow. Go Hawks! We'll see you next time.