Locked On Hawkeyes - Daily Podcast On Iowa Hawkeyes Football & Basketball - BIG 10 SQUAD: Big 10 QB DEBATE | Where Iowa Stacks up

Episode Date: March 26, 2026

Big Ten quarterbacks spark fierce debate—is Dante Moore the true #1, or does Julian Sayin hold the crown? With the conference boasting record representation in the Sweet 16, the pressure mounts for ...Michigan, Illinois, and Purdue to finally claim a National Championship and silence SEC dominance in men's basketball. The Big 10 Squad breaks down quarterback rankings, analyze the impact of standout signal-callers on programs like Ohio State, Oregon, and Wisconsin, and spotlight Dante Moore's NFL-caliber upside. The squad tackles March Madness surprises, coaching narratives, and the Big Ten’s shifting reputation on the national stage. The conversation heats up as panelists debate the chaos of the NCAA transfer "shadow portal"—is college sports primed for radical change, or is the system beyond repair? Can the Big Ten capture football and basketball supremacy this season? Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Big Ten has some really good quarterbacks, but who is number one? Is it Julian Sayan or Dante Moore? And the SEC, well, they had to worry about football. Now they got to worry about men's basketball when it comes to the Big Ten. You're talking ball with the Big Ten squad, sponsored by game time. From USC to Ohio State from Michigan to Oregon, from Nebraska to Washington, it's the local experts of the Lockdown Podcast Network, bringing you scoops, breakdowns, and the most comprehensive preview of the upcoming Big Ten.
Starting point is 00:00:30 10 weekend. Know her feelings and thin skin allowed. Squad up. You're part of the Big 10 squad. Welcome into the Big 10 squad. We got a jam pack show for you as we are debating a bunch of different topics when it comes to college football, the NCAA, the Big 10 of course and March madness, a record setting weekend for the Big 10 getting six teams into the Sweet 16. We got Spencer McLaughlin from Lockdown Ducks, Isaiah Hall from Lockdown Wolverine. Ryan Harings from Locked-on Badgers, Trent Condon from Lockdown, Hot Guys. My name is Zach Seiko, the host of Lockdown, Nittney Lions, and the Philin host here as Spencer and I have now flip-flop rolls.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Let's jump into the – I know you – I know you want to get it – you want to get into this debate, Spencer. The Big Ten QBs, we're going to start here. Julian's saying the number one quarterback in the Big Ten. Is that correct, or is it Dante Moore or somebody else? Well, at first, I've just got to come. you for for stepping in because my schedule is a little bit jagged today and just just know that I will not forget the mispronunciation on my last name and next time you're on the show and I go around you will indeed be
Starting point is 00:01:44 Zach Seco of locked on Nittany Lions I rolled through I rolled through that you're rolled through it to it's okay it's okay rookie rookie mistakes is a perfect transition to Dante Moore and Julian Sain because it's how their seasons came to an end last year. The number of similarities between these guys is kind of shocking. And I'll put on my, frankly, even if I put on my Oregon hat, I think I would take either one of these guys. I'm a huge Julian Sayan fan. And I'm not trying to give the cop out answer here. But I just look at it like this. If you swapped these guys with their teams a year ago, go. What's the big difference? What, what changes? Where does Ohio State season go than it didn't? Where does Oregon season fail to go? I don't think that it changes a whole heck of a lot because both
Starting point is 00:02:34 guys showed that, you know, they were a little inexperienced. And when they went up against great defenses, they made some mistakes that cost their team the chance to go play for a national championship. And saying, you know, had a couple numbers that I think were a little bit better than Dante Moore's. I think I've seen Dante Moore, you know, do more with less because his receiving core got banged up and Julian Sane had Jeremiah Smith the whole time. So I'll give Dante more the 51-49 edge, but I think that's a pretty neutral arbiter way to look at it. Isaiah, where does Bryce Underwood rank? And are you taking Julian Sane over Dante Moore, being that he is the Ohio State quarterback? It's hard to say yet where Bryce Underwood ranks,
Starting point is 00:03:18 given, you know, last year, freshman season, a lot of extracurriculars happening behind the scenes with certain coaches and only fans models and, you know, types of things. Anything specific? You want to dive into Isaiah? Yeah, let's talk about it. Now, all the time I'm saying, he didn't even have a really have a quarterbacks coach. So let's see what he's where he's going to go now that he actually has people who are actually saying like, hey, you know that thing you did that was wrong? Let's fix that instead of being like, you're the coach. I actually have to school my Oregon brethren over to my side here,
Starting point is 00:03:55 because maybe it's the Detroit of it all for Dante Moore. I think if you put Dante Moore on Ohio State, I think he wins the Heisman because he would have had the protection, and he would have had the... He was very well protected last year. Oregon had one of the three finalists nationally for the Joe Moore Award. Keep trying. Keep trying.
Starting point is 00:04:14 That is true. But at the same time, he would have also had... Ohio State's receivers, definitely the best receiving court in the country. We saw him being able to improvise a lot better than Julian Sagan was. I think that Dante Moore is head and shoulders better than Julian Sagan. Craig's jump into this. Yeah, and I'm glad I could be. I didn't think I was going to be here for this time. Great to have you. I'm big into the Dante Moore camp. I have been. I think he's phenomenal. I think he'd be, you know, top two pick in the NFL draft right now if he were coming out. he's that good.
Starting point is 00:04:49 So I think he'd be great. And with, you know, with Julian saying, I still wonder how much action we're going to get with Tavian St. Clair this year. Are they going to have a not a two quarterback system, but I wonder if they're going to use him, say, the way Michigan was using their quarterbacks a couple of years ago, you know, change your baseball. Is that what you're saying?
Starting point is 00:05:10 Use them ineffectually. I was going to say, why would anyone want to copy Michigan's quarterback play from the last two years? What is the potential upside that you're seeing? Hey, by the way, what's the scandal going on in Oregon? So, uh, Dylan Riola, who is like, he thinks he's Patrick Mahomes, just dropping number 15. He's bringing out the Mariotta number eight. What is going on over there? There's no scandal.
Starting point is 00:05:35 He just called an ass. He just, he hit him up. He's got ties back to the state of Hawaii and got in touch with Marcus and Dylan Gabriel and said, hey, is this okay? And he's got number eight. Everybody's cool with it. Okay, the number hasn't been retired. We all know who the real number eight is, but it's all right.
Starting point is 00:05:51 He thinks he's Patrick Mahomes. I'm just stunned that he made the mood. This is growth. This is growth in the quarterback room already. That's all that happens at Oregon in the quarterback room. You come to Eugene and you grow. And if you don't believe me, you can ask Bo Nix. You can ask Dante Moore.
Starting point is 00:06:08 And then soon you'll be able to ask national championship winner, Dylan Raola. Trent, you have two quarterbacks that are up for the starting spot. and this is your opportunity to make the case for SANE and more, but also defend your case because Iowa is typically at the bottom of the quarterback rankings. It says either or for Iowa QBs, but dead last. Yeah, I mean, obviously, I would take anybody over what we have right now out of those two guys. I'm with Isaiah, though. I think the gap is pretty significant between Sane and between more. You look back in obviously game number one last year.
Starting point is 00:06:41 He was asked to do nothing against Texas. The first big road game, he did very little. that game against Washington. It was a defense that did that. And when the schedule tightened up at the end of the year, and the Buckeyes actually had to play somebody through a pick against Michigan, through a pick against Indiana, through two picks against Miami. I think the gap there, I saw what Dante Moore did in that game winning drive against my Hawkeyes and Kinnick Stadium. With that throw, Julian Sane was not making that throw that day. Dante Moore, big gap than it's saying. For Iowa, it's a big gap before we get to the bottom. And we got to see it this year.
Starting point is 00:07:15 We saw growth out of the offense the last two years. We saw the running game make immense improvements after the firing of Brian Farrants. But now the time to happen is at this point. It's going to be the first spring that they're going to have a healthy quarterback competition. That didn't happen in Tim Lester's first two. So that's where the hope is. But it's hard for me to make a definitive argument that the Iowa quarterback room is going
Starting point is 00:07:36 to be even in the top half of the league right now. Trent, I can't believe that Auburn watched Kirk Farrant's hire his son. and then have to fire him and then they they looked at their basketball program and said let's do this exact same thing this is going to go great always there's going to be nothing wrong here i can't believe it didn't work out not not surprising at all nepotism it is a it is a four-letter word here in the state of iowa ryan uh your case for more versus saying and colton joseph taken over old dominion quarterback where does he rank oh yes let's go to the wisconsin fan for quarterback analysis It's like going to the farmer for biomedical device.
Starting point is 00:08:16 You know, I don't know. I haven't seen a good quarterback in a decade. Whatever. Here's the thing. I think Ohio State quarterbacks in general are pretty overrated. When was the last time they had a bad one? Everything is just so easy there for them. You look at Julian Zane.
Starting point is 00:08:30 You're looking at a guy who he can't create with his feet. He's pretty good inside the pocket. But I think if you want to be an elite quarterback at the college level, Dante Moore is more mobile, Williams is more mobile. A lot of guys in the Big Ten offer more. And if you were to flip pieces around put saying on some of these lesser Big 10 teams where he can't sit in the pocket where he's not throwing the two NFL receivers where he doesn't have an elite offensive staff game planning for him where he's not always playing with the lead generally. Right. These game script things matter too. You know, playing from behind is a lot harder when teams can gear up against you with a pass rush and coverage. I think saying is overrated. I would take more. I would take Hoover. I would probably take Williams. I would say I probably wouldn't take Underwood. I don't know. Like, I got to see it with Underwood, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:16 I think you've got to be more dynamic if you're going to be a really, really elite quarterback for any team. Ohio State can get away with it because they're Ohio State. So really quick on Colton Joseph, Badger's quarterback, O'DU, sure. I mean, we've had three straight years of starting quarterbacks get hurt. So ultimately, it's just can a quarterback be healthy for us? And if it is, it's going to be an improvement. I mean, people are just beaten down and downtrodden about the quarterback luck in Madison. Who's got the lower bar?
Starting point is 00:09:42 for a quarterback play Iowa or Wisconsin. Iowa is sitting here going, can you throw it? Can you average 200 yards? Sorry, can you average 175 passing yards in a game? And Wisconsin's sitting there going, can you be on the field? Recently, it's got to be Wisconsin. We won a game. I say we, but Wisconsin won a game last year with our leading passer being our punter.
Starting point is 00:10:04 I mean, it's got to be Wisconsin. Are you not supposed to do that? Yeah. It worked. Like, you know, like, we almost built to do the statue. I mean, he always like. Kirk Farrance is hearing that and going, I hadn't pondered that before. Don't give them any ideas.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Hey, we still got more on the way here. More great debates. March Madness, it is quickly becoming a Big Ten dominated tournament. Oh, that was the SEC still had that. They're losing control of football. Now they're losing control of men's basketball. More on the way here on this Big Ten squad. And this episode is brought to you by Indeed,
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Starting point is 00:12:39 merchant and swap firm. All right, and we jump back into the Big Ten squad as we're talking about March Madness. Hey, the Big Ten is starting to take over the March Madness tournament. And Trent, we're going to begin with you and work our way back around as you should have the first word here. Iowa has the biggest, well, okay, well, and then we're going to go to Ryan next because his team's not here because of another big upset. But Trent, Iowa knocking off Florida, an amazing buzzer beater here. I want to know about knocking off the number one seat, but also how the Big Ten is really starting to push back on the SEC here. And this is turning into a Big Ten dominant tournament as a record six Big Ten teams are in the Sweet 16.
Starting point is 00:13:25 And that's great. And it's certainly great from the Iowa perspective. I'll get that in a moment. But in the grand scheme of things, it's going to be up to Isaiah above me. We've got to win the national championship. We know the narrative since 2,000. That has to change. If we're really going to have this conversation about the big. tents are planting and surpassing. It has to end in the national championship because that bugaboo
Starting point is 00:13:44 has been there. From the Iowa perspective, I was talking about it earlier on my radio show today. I was sitting the last time Iowa was in the sweet 16 at a bar stool. My freshman year at the University of Iowa at one eye jakes. That's a bar that's no longer in Iowa City. Was that like pre-World War II? It was 1999. It was a long time ago. I'm an old man here. And it was a different time, certainly in the world. And now I'm jumping up and down with my kids in the living room and watching that one and just how great it was. But there's been a lot of turmoil. There's been a lot of frustration we've seen of the women's program that turns into sellouts. That's what Iowa men's basketball was. It was a huge thing in the state of Iowa.
Starting point is 00:14:20 They formulated and Craig will remember this because Indiana stole the idea the Iowa basketball network at every station and every area of the state had every single game that was on throughout the course of the season in the late 70s and the 80s and the 90s. It was a huge thing and they'd get a 70s, 75 share for regular season basketball games in the state of Iowa. The passion is there. It is back, and they got the right guy. They got a guy that grew up in the state of Iowa that knows the passion, that grew up a Hawkeye fan. And on top of it, Ben McCullum, he's one heck of a coach.
Starting point is 00:14:53 All right, Ryan, well, Wisconsin's not here. They lost a high point. Sorry to bring it back up. And I'm glad that Trent got to say his peace before he headed out. Ryan, this Iowa-Nabraska game, where does the Big Ten stand? in the scheme of things when it comes to men's basketball in your mind? I mean, you can't really argue with what they've done so far. They've got six in the final 16.
Starting point is 00:15:14 It's tremendous. From a badger's standpoint, Liz, I want the Big Ten to win, right? So I'm stoked Michigan's away in Isaiah's team. Stoke to see Trent's team knock up a one seed. Nebraska is a great story. It sucks, though. Like the next day, that's Saturday, which would have been the round of 32 game against Arkansas for the Badger.
Starting point is 00:15:36 We had a whole day plan. Like my kid was going to watch it. I want my parents were coming over. It just stinks. So I did take like a two day morning period where I didn't watch any sports. I didn't watch any basketball. Just is what it is. But from the Big Ten standpoint, that's tremendous.
Starting point is 00:15:51 It's absolutely tremendous. But I think Trent made a great point, which is good that he's gone because I don't like give him credit when he's here and he can hear it. But he made a great point that the Big Ten's got to finish it now. You got to win a title. Now nobody's going to look back in five years and say, wow, great job. They had six in the sweet 16. if all of them drop off before the end.
Starting point is 00:16:08 So whether that's Illinois, who I think can do it, whether it's Michigan who I know can do it, I'm not sure if Nebraska, Iowa can, but somebody has to now take it home for the Big Ten. Otherwise, this conversation right here doesn't matter. Michigan State is in there as well. Craig, I want to get your thoughts because Ryan makes a great point. What if the Big Ten doesn't do it,
Starting point is 00:16:29 whether that's not having a finalist or even winning? What's kind of the outcome here? the ramifications, the consequences as the SEC continues to have, you know, dominate in the final four or get both finalists there. What does the Big Ten absolutely need to do? And what are the consequences if they don't do anything spectacular? They need to give all their good players to Oregon. Well, Oregon does need some help in basketball.
Starting point is 00:16:54 But, you know, Ryan, that's neat. That Wisconsin team was a fun basketball team to watch with that scoring back court. I'm equally disappointed that they didn't make it pass high point as well. It means everything. You got to finish. Nobody's going to be talking about, hey, they got six teams in the sweet 16 or whatever. You got to win. And I'll second and third, Isaiah, the pressure's on you guys because you're the team that can get it done.
Starting point is 00:17:16 We really, really need a championship for a change because I get a lot of mileage on lockdown Big Ten ragging on the SEC and the ACC talking about how we're the real true super. Craig's worried about making his house payments. That's what that's what's going on here. Forget the pride of the conference, Isaiah. your wolverines need to come through so that Craig can buy a luxury couch for his living room. I'm not the host name thing here. Can I point that out really quick? You're just kind of working into your hosting role now, Spence.
Starting point is 00:17:46 No, this is me in jab mode. This is jab. This is jab mode. Isaiah pressure's on. Does Michigan have clearly the best chance here? Are you giving Purdue? Are you giving Michigan State a fighting chance to get to the final four, make a run to the finals or is it just is it just michigan i'm not i'm not going to give that michigan state that that type of
Starting point is 00:18:09 uh sorry locked on spartans fans if you're actually watching or listening to this show i don't care about you um before we start that i want to continue the trend that we started in in the first segment and that's ragging on ohio state who also lost in our first round um so um yeah just i want to thank all of you for making that first segment just very enjoyable for me uh i think michigan absolutely can get it done, but I also am very wary of this Sweet 16 matchup against Alabama. So it is a you know, Big Ten SEC because Alabama is really good at the one thing Michigan is not that good at, and that's they're really good at shooting the threes where sometimes Michigan forgets that you can defend, you know, beyond the arc. So if Alabama shoots the way it did against Texas Tech,
Starting point is 00:18:58 Michigan might be in trouble if it loses any semblance of its offense. But losing LJ. Jason during the Big Ten tournament, that certainly hurts. And you wouldn't think that a backup point guard would kind of change things. But he had become like that spark because we've seen a lot of times where Elliott Cadoe and Namari Burnett just decide that front court, back court scoring rather, just doesn't matter. And LJ. Kaysen would come in and he would get 12 points real quick and he would supplement Yaxel and Mores and Adai. And it would end up working out really well. I think Michigan has everything it needs. It just needs to avoid that let down game. And at least in a way, it's been kind of a bonus that they've gotten tested a little bit there in the Big Ten tournament,
Starting point is 00:19:41 because now they know, hey, if we're if we're down, we know we can come back most of the time as long as we're not playing Purdue. Spencer, can anybody else but Michigan win from the Big Ten? Is it Illinois? Is it Purdue? Is it Michigan State? I don't think Illinois gets past Houston. I take defense over offense in just generally speaking, any sport in a championship sort of setting the old adage defense wins championships i've got houston beating illinois but certainly if they got i think illinois alabama would be one of the most entertaining college basketball games we've ever seen final score would be 98 95 in in all likelihood i mean those guys can really shoot the ball i tell you as an organ guy how i feel in this particular point of the basketball a conversation you guys
Starting point is 00:20:24 seen that movie we're the millers yeah with jason sedakis and jennifer an so there's that scene where Jennifer Aniston realizes that Jason Sadekis is getting $500,000. And she's like, you were only going to give me $30. And then the, I can't remember the actress's name. Emma something right now goes, you're getting 30 grand. I'm only getting $1,000. And then the other kid's like, wait, you guys are getting paid? That's how I feel is Oregon basketball.
Starting point is 00:20:55 I was like, that team is not going to make the sweet 16. that team could win a national championship. And I'm just sitting here going, what, you guys have teams? I'm right there with you with players. We can't talk about wrestling on this show. That are good, that are good. Like, oh, God, I miss the days. I miss, I miss, I miss the days.
Starting point is 00:21:15 But no, I'll, I'll get out of here on, on this note. Um, I do have Duke winning it all in my bracket. I feel pretty shaky about that prediction at the moment. And for the big 10 sake, I do hope that. that someone gets it done. Now, if it's Michigan, that would, that would bug me a little because that means Isaiah would have two national championships to celebrate in the last like three years' time. And I'm just sitting here trying to get one for my college team in one of the two major sports.
Starting point is 00:21:45 So there's that. Two for Michigan right now, number one in hockey as well. Yeah. Okay. But we were talking about real sports. So we're going to, we're going to keep the key. Keep title. Women's hockey title just happened.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Okay, well, now this conversation is officially off the rails. We're talking about the Frozen Four. Yeah, you lose me with that. But no, I'd love to see the mission. I'd love to see the Big Ten breakthrough. I think it would do a lot for the league. Anything so that Craig can keep taking jabs at the SEC. I want that Versace couch for you, Craig.
Starting point is 00:22:21 I want you to have it. Thank you. Thank you very much. I really do. Okay. I got a roll. An upgrade for Big Ten basketball and an upgrade for Craig's furniture. Let's debate NCAA potential blunders here because the shadow portal, right,
Starting point is 00:22:37 where guys can unenroll from a football team and potentially transfer with no spring portal window. We're going to play commissioner in the final segment. What would you do? What statement would you make against a school that tries to do this? That is coming up next tier on this Big Ten squad. And this episode is brought to you by TurboTex. It is tax time, but for a lot of us, the old way of doing taxes is a lot. Trying to book an appointment that's not the most convenient, sitting in a waiting room with a stack of papers,
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Starting point is 00:25:16 if you're running the show with the Big Ten, the NCAA, you've got to make a statement because they are getting ready to meet. The NCAA is trying to collectively, uh, battle tampering or whatever's going to go on with this shadow portal with the spring portal window that is no longer there, but schools are going to try to entice a player to unenroll from their old school, transfer, and then they'll compensate them with NIL. They can't be a scholarship player, but does that matter anymore? So, Craig, you are you are up to bat first. How concerned are you about this? Do you think this is a legitimate possibility, or is this just all smoke and mirrors? and what would you do to punish said school that tries to pull this off?
Starting point is 00:25:59 Yeah, when you interest, it's interesting when you mention how you could pay somebody with name image and likeness. I was thinking even a couple of years ago when this first came out, I'm like, well, there goes the threat of taking scholarships away because all you got to do is pay a kid large NIL money and he can pay his own way through school if that's even important to him at this point. But I think everything, like if I'm the commissioner, you can say whatever you want. if you're in charge of the NCAA,
Starting point is 00:26:25 you can say whatever you want. I think we're at the point where everything is going to be litigated in the courts, whether it's eligibility, because some kid wants to play a ninth year into his 30s, or whether we have the shadow portal. I can go to school wherever I want to go to school and I can transfer any time I want,
Starting point is 00:26:44 just like any other student. Well, let's solve it in the courtroom. Ultimately, it's going to drag out. It's going to take forever. It's going to be tedious. But I think everyone, of these items. It's just going to go right up to, I don't know if they go to the Supreme Court or not, but they're all going to be decided in the court because everybody's suing for everything.
Starting point is 00:27:01 The NCAA's losing everything. They're trying to hold on to all these powers that they no longer have. But yeah, it's going to no matter what a commissioner says, no matter what rules are in place, I think it's going to come down to some judges somewhere. Ryan, regardless of the courts, what kind of rules would you put in place to disincentivize schools trying to do that, to go get a running back somewhere else or if they have a key player on either side of the football. What are you doing to try to stop this? Yeah, that's a great question. I think Greg said it really, really well. I think ultimately will end up in the courts. But if we're taking that part of it aside, to me, a lot of this just feels like wackable,
Starting point is 00:27:43 though, like loopholes pop up, unique circumstances pop up. You try to kick them back down and something else will pop up. I think it's too incentivized to win at this point. and people have found that loopholes generally work. I don't know what you can say. Ultimately, I mean, Wisconsin was a victim of something similar to this a couple years ago when Xavier Lucas, who, I mean, it is what it is. They ended up in Miami and there was an agreement in place. You know, it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Ultimately, I think you've got to move on and go forward. I'm not that worried about it, to be completely honest, quite frankly, if there's a player after spring, I'm just going to be honest that thinks they shouldn't be there and they're looking around. that guy might not be helping you win games anyway. And I think it's just kind of where we're at until there is real strategic leadership that comes down and brings people together
Starting point is 00:28:30 in some way that unifies some of this, I think we're going to be dealing with this stuff. And I don't think there's anything a commissioner can do, a league can do. I think it's a problem in the system. And until you fix the system, we're going to keep dealing with things like this. Ryan, you take a little bit of a defeated approach
Starting point is 00:28:45 since it did happen to you. I can just hear the defeatedness. coming from your answer there. Isaiah, where are we headed with this? With players just they can transfer. There's no agreements don't mean anything. So are we finally trending towards the end of the NCAA and the two, the super conferences and what have you?
Starting point is 00:29:10 Or is there something that can finally bring this together? Well, did you want me to speak as the NCAA? Because I can do that. I kind of set you up for that because I know, I know how fond you are of the NCAA. I figured this would be great for you. I don't know if this is going to work. We're going to try it.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Lights out, maybe. Execute order 66. Blur the face. I love it. Yeah. So that's how, now I don't know how to get it back to white. Let's see if we can do it.
Starting point is 00:29:38 I like the mood lighting for this. It was red, but, you know, having my other colored lights. Anyway, I don't, I mean, number one, I want to, I want to preface this. I said this on Crane and Cohn earlier in the week. I want to make sure that everyone understands me. I love the NCAA.
Starting point is 00:29:55 I mean, we all love the NCAA, right? We all bow down to their amazingness and their great decisions. No, I don't know that there's any, like, once the toothpaste was out of the tube, I just don't think that there was any way to put it back in, right? And honestly, like, the toothpaste has been out of the tube for decades. The problem actually more so was the, the NCAA let the SEC do whatever it wanted and pretended like it didn't happen for just ever.
Starting point is 00:30:27 And then once that somehow we got Transfer Portal and NIL and all this stuff, then suddenly it's now that everyone else is able to kind of play fair. And I understand, Ryan, unfortunately, you were victimized by an SEC style team that's in the ACC. But at the same time, like the only reason why you even see it, a lot of the pushback at this point is because SEC is crying foul now because they're like, what these other teams are doing to us what we did to them. We can't have that. So yeah, I don't think it's going to get solved unless they do take it to court and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Now, I'm not saying that it's good, unfettered free agency every single year kind of sucks, but at the same time, it's kind of just what we live with now. The state of college football. Well, it might get, worse before it gets better, but its numbers are through the roof. Ratings are great. Ratings are great when it comes to the Big Ten squad. Hey, the guys that stuck around for the full show, Isaiah Hall of Lockdown Wolverines, Craig Sheeman of Lockdown Big Ten, Ryan Herings of Lockdown Badgers. My name is Zach Seiko, the host, filling in for Spencer McLaughlin, who does a great job every single time. Great to be here. Great to host. It was truly a privilege. Thank you so much for joining us on the
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