Locked On Hawkeyes - Daily Podcast On Iowa Hawkeyes Football & Basketball - Big 10 SQUAD - How NCAA, House Settlement Impacts Iowa

Episode Date: June 12, 2025

College football's landscape shifts dramatically with NCAA's game-changing settlement. Will player payments reshape team dynamics and recruiting strategies across the Big Ten?Hosts dissect the settlement's far-reaching implications, from potential roster size changes to the evolving role of NIL collectives. The conversation heats up with bold predictions for the upcoming season. Big Ten insiders Spencer McLaughlin and Craig Shemon offer unique perspectives on how top programs might adapt to these seismic changes.College football's landscape shifts dramatically with NCAA's game-changing settlement. Will player payments reshape team dynamics and recruiting strategies across the Big Ten?Hosts dissect the settlement's far-reaching implications, from potential roster size changes to the evolving role of NIL collectives. The conversation heats up with bold predictions for the upcoming season. Big Ten insiders Spencer McLaughlin and Craig Shemon offer unique perspectives on how top programs might adapt to these seismic changes.

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Squad up, you're part of the Big Ten squad. Happy Thursday, everybody. Who was humming? I just assumed it was you, Spencer. Somebody had a great time. everybody who was humming. Somebody had a great time. Somebody is just jamming out to the locked on Big Ted squad intro. Like which one of you is just out there bumping that thing in your air pods while you're working out. I call own it. It was me. It's been a while since I've been on on I missed the intro. We are humming and the mute button. Oh

Mikes are hot. Welcome to the lock down big Ted squad I've spent some glove of your house Craig Scheman have locked on big tennis here Trent Condon have locked on Hawkeyes had to make sure he was around for I was win total today Mark Hulkin locked on USC Zach Zach Sega locked on Nittany Lions. Zach Anderson-Yaksheimer locked on UCLA. And Jacob Goins locked on Hoosiers. Craig, I'll start with you and the big picture look at the house settlement.

20 and a half million dollars this year. It's more expensive because the NIL deals get grandfathered and we'll talk about NIL GO in the second segment today. But does this mean that we actually are getting fathered and we'll talk about and I'll go in the second segment today but does this mean that we actually are getting a more level playing field in college athletics to you well as we're kind of plowing through this stuff I don't think the house settlement does because remember the twenty and a half million that's punishment that that's the payment because we haven't been paying

athletes and everybody has to do that. I think teams that still have strong programs, whether they're taking them in-house as we figure out the future, as long as name, image and likeness is still legitimate after Brian Seeley looks it over with a fine-tooth comb, I think schools that are still powerful in that department will still be well above everybody else the Ohio States Oregon Texas USC the schools that have the name-image likeness money I think are still gonna have an advantage while everybody pays the 20 we have to look at the twenty half a million dollars as a

Penalty before have not having paid athletes over these years going back to 2016 So but they are now allowed to pay the athletes with the revenue from their department. Yeah. Like I said, we're all trying to figure out the nuances of it. And I just, I don't, I don't know where we're at. I don't know if this levels the playing field just yet. Trent, how do you feel like this lands for you guys in Iowa? So, you know, with our perspective, you know, I look at two of our neighbors to the west, and not Nebraska, but in Omaha, Creighton. And think of their basketball program.

Well, they don't have football over there. And when you look at it from the basketball scope, and I know we're almost always football here, when you look at basketball, well, they have that $20.5 million. If they're going to budget 75% to their most important sport, that means they have a $15 million payroll for basketball only. While Big Ten schools are going to have what? Three, four million dollars. Iowa just lost two of their best players to Creighton this year. Now you look at that and you look at the Xavier's of the world and the Villanovas of the world. St. John's obviously in the way that they spent last year and the Big East at least in basketball.

Are they going to have a big step up in everybody, SEC and Big Ten included? Mark, how does this land for you over there in Los Angeles country? Well, as far as the revenue sharing, it's great. And, you know, NIL is going to be fantastic because you have to look at the term fair market value. USC's market is a little bit different than everybody else's. You know, they're not going to have a Nike tariff hanging over their NIL department, Spencer. So you guys are taking a huge hit. What is a Nike tariff? You know, we got pretty hard today.

We'll talk about that later. But yeah, they got hit pretty hard. I don't watch the news. OK. Like you got hit with a, they're told bring your business back to the States or here's 50% more. Yeah, but I thought that was, I thought that was like everybody. I didn't think that was just the one company. Oh, Nike got hit smack hard.

The shoes coming from China from Nike. Yeah. So getting back to, getting back to the NIL portion of it, because of USC's market, they can go to Mr. Sealy and say, hey, you know what? This person can actually sell this much product because we're talking about the biggest TV market in the country, you know, this side of New York. So it benefits the big schools. But to what Trent just brought up, that's a really interesting point. You are now going to see a separation. Football, basketball. Everybody else, you better find a spot. Because

the Big East, you know, their basketball, that used to be the conference to watch. It's going to be the conference to watch again. Because the big conference, the SEC, they're going to make sure that the majority of that money is funneled towards the football program. That's what generates the revenue. Big East schools they don't have football. They can use that basketball money now and just go crazy. I rarely say this but I think Mark just made a really good point. Speaking of schools that will probably lean more towards football investment than basketball. Seiko, how's it going, my man? I mean, this is great news for Penn State. I already had a show on it talking about, hey, you know, this is going to benefit Penn State. What it does is

it brings the, it closes the gap for the major power for football schools. That's really what it does. This is about football. This may be a little bit of men's basketball. But when it comes to hockey baseball softball everybody else I worry about the longevity of other non football non basketball sports. I have this conversation is going to be completely different in five to 10 years. So we'll see. And that's why you're seeing challenges to it already. But for Penn State's case, they wanted this all along. It now gets them more competitive with Ohio State. It gets them more competitive with any school that has been an aggressive financial spender across the board. And now Penn State has that opportunity to at least try and match or get close to it. So for Penn State's football team, this couldn't be better news.

But for anybody that's not powerful and even the schools that, okay, well, men's basketball cretin is going to be a juggernaut and a powerhouse for years to come. They don't have a football program to supplement other costs. So to say that, oh, well, they have 20 million to spend, they're just going to use 17 million. I found this out yesterday, but in the case of, let's take a St. John's for example, specifically, and Creighton's probably the same, they're probably going to spend closer to about 7 or 8 million as opposed to 16, 17 million because they don't have a football program to pay all of their other bills. So they don't even have access to that full 20 and a half million. You almost need to create a salary cap for football, basketball, and any other sports

separately. I don't think this 20 and a half million should be all towards one, just overall, just because not all sports are equal, not all universities are equal. So you need a salary cap that kind of reflects that a little more individually. You're right that they're not all equal. Some are 100 million dollars in the hole. Some are not. Speaking of that bearded Zach who I'm sure is just thrilled we're actually talking about basketball even even a little bit. we're actually talking about basketball even even a little bit. I think the big thing is Mark made a great point UCLA is in the Los Angeles market it's a great market for NIL opportunities UCLA from a basketball perspective if they decide to step it up football wise they're in a great market if you want to get to NIL deals when it comes to spreading the wealth which sport to go after obviously

the legacy has been men's basketball but they also have the model as the athletic department champions made here what does that mean to all their other sports as much as we focus football men's basketball they but they also have the model as the athletic department champions made here. What does that mean to all their other sports? As much as we focus football, men's basketball, they want to win a championship in every sport from men's volleyball to softball. You see all these other sports, UCLA is close to the top of the list at winning championships in sports that a lot of schools compete in. Some schools don't compete in. What does that mean for the rest of them? Do they turn into club sports? I wonder what that's gonna look like and if UCLA has to spread it more evenly or how much that hurts their athletic Department as a whole now that this twenty point five million dollar number has been put out and the Bruins can even get there with The big deficit that they have

Trent was that a hand it was because you know with mark was that talking talking about LA? No, it's seriously guys, but the market value, and can we fall into that? Obviously, I was a small state. OK, hold on. Hold on. We're going to dive into that full in the second segment. Because I want to unpack that too, because I think that's one of the-

I'm getting ready for Rutgers, because New York City market, right? They're just going to take over the big 10. Is that where we're trending? Yeah, OK. OK, Goins, close us out on this one with the Indiana angle. I presume Indiana's spending more on a Cignetti than who's the basketball coach? His name's Darren DeVries. Yeah. Oh, right. Right. Yeah. That guy. Anyway. Yeah. The guy who won a ton of games at Drake won at West Virginia and then bolted and came to a better

program. Yeah. For Indiana, it's about they're going to split the money. But do you put it towards Kurt Signetti, who is now going into year two after coming off the greatest season of all time in the history of Indiana football? Or do you put it into the thing that Indiana fans want, which is a legitimate basketball program that hasn't been relevant in about 25 years? That's where we're at. And we have to figure that out with Scott Doulson, the A.D. And how do you have those conversations? How do you go to a coach as an A.D. and say, we really like the job you're doing, but we're not going to fund your program because we want to win in this other sport? Like that's where Indiana is going to be cursing that

he's going to raise hell. Darren DeVries is going to as well. And there are other schools like us that are going to be in this decision making mode of where do we put all this money towards football that's never been good and could be now or basketball, which has been the brand forever. Oh, make sure you all stick around for the second segment, because we're going to dive into the NIL angle and I was going to debate just how much they can pay a punter. But first, this episode is brought to you by our friends at Game Time. There's nothing like the NBA playoffs, the intensity, the buzzer beaters, the fans losing their minds. It's the kind of atmosphere you must experience live. And this year's matchups have already delivered and will continue to do so throughout the finals.

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that actually gets made that we were talking about in the first segment. The NIL angle to me is, you know, what the courts have struck down time and time again, which is, yeah, we're going to attempt to regulate how much these kids can make in the marketplace. I look at it this way. All right. Kid goes, he's got a dealership, Bill Dankiewicz Ford, in LA, and he's got Bill Dankiewicz Ford in Iowa City. It's the exact same deal. He's doing a hundred TV commercials, a hundred radio commercials. It's the exact same thing.

Is the kid in Iowa City going to get half the amount? 75%. That's what we don't know. And is that what this comes down to? Is just the city that you live in? It kind of goes back to when we found out that these guys, what was that? About eight, 10 years ago,

that they were going to get their true cost of enrollment, right? And? About eight, 10 years ago, that they were going to get their true cost of enrollment. And suddenly guys, because their apartment in LA is gonna be a whole lot more than it was gonna be in Lincoln, Nebraska, those kinds of things. Is that the area that we're treading at? I don't know. It's just a question that I have rattling around here

because for many of the programs in the Big Ten and in smaller college campuses, campus life is a lot different than the cities that we're talking about, specifically LA. Well, I think the fair market value question is, like, who knows? Who's determining that? What information are they going off of?

What if Caitlin Clark was still around? Yeah, what do you det- Like, what's fair market value in an NIL deal with a collective for Caitlin Clark to university? But Mark, like in to to TransPoint in Los Angeles, you can't you could not. I don't think in good faith say that a kid who's living and residing in in the Los Angeles area, getting an NIL deal for, let's say, half a million dollars, that doesn't carry the same weight in Los Angeles as it does in

Bloomington. Yeah, it carries more weight in Los Angeles, I would imagine. I mean, I mean, other than the fact that you're not going to be able to keep as much of it for yourself because it's more expensive to live there. Absolutely. And that's something I try and, you know, have this discussion with other people about as well. California is going to take what they want from you whenever they want you with those taxes. But, you know, you got, if you're trying to sell,

let's say you're a player at USC, Fletcher Jones, they're one of the luxury car dealers in Southern California, Mercedes, BMW, they can say, hey, you know what, Kamari Ramsey, come be our spokesperson, sell our cars. You're going to be able to generate a larger fair market deal for Camari Ramsey in LA selling BMWs and Mercedes compared to Ed Orgeron hocking Hummers down in Mississippi. It's that type of market. You know, yeah here Ed, here's your free Hummer. Don't underestimate the demand for Hummers mark. Hummer drivers them some serious dudes. Kamara Ramsey not only gets a car to drive, but you know, he can say, you know what, I'm going to help you sell 100 cars in the next two months or whatever. This is what my values work. And

again, I'm not just picking on Oregon just because I like to pick an organ. You can't do that. We know that you like to though. Trust me. We've we've we've seen that. But you can't do that in Eugene. It's a smaller market. So whatever type of NIO deal one of your players wants to sign for a dealership in Oregon or

Eugene. Well, but the deals they're talking about regulating are the ones that are with the collective, not necessarily with a business, as I understand it. None of this is good. Trust me. Everyone's going back to court 100 times before this incident. That's probably right. Craig, did you want to consider a career path

and start representing people in court? Because boy, billable hours are just undefeated in college sports ever since the LA schools left the Pac-12. Unfortunately, I would have to start law school tomorrow. And I heard that takes a really long time. Then I have to pass the bar. So this thing will all be settled by then.

No, it won't. The ACC will have a new TV deal by the time this all gets sold. No, I got faith in you, Craig. I think you could grind it out. And I think you could do it in three years, pass the bar in another couple, five years time. The ACC will still be looking for a deal. They'll need lawyers.

Yeah, I think you might be right about that. Yeah, Seiko, care to weigh in? There's nothing that I have anything different. This is just such uncharted territory, right? And it's only going to, it's going to be spun, it's going to go in so many different directions that we might not even anticipate at this point in time. This could have been solved a long time ago. The NCAA didn't want to give up, executives didn didn't wanna give up any money, any money,

whether it was change, whether it was somewhat of a substantial amount of money, they did not wanna give up anything. And that's why we had this boiling point where you had a house settlement. You literally, you had to have an outside entity go into this and try to fix it. And that's why you're seeing, well, this is a problem.

This is a problem. This is a problem. Yes, because somebody outside of the sports is now dictating what needs to be done to treat it as fair. The NCAA, I mean, fumbled all of this because they are the league. So people need to follow their rules and what they decide, but I don't know how they messed all of that up

because nobody's challenging the NFL saying, well, these rules and regulations, you know, this isn't right, just whatever. I know this is the, it's a completely different hypothetical, but the NCAA really messed up in the fact that they should have made the changes when they had the opportunity.

And now that's why we're here. And my biggest concern at the end of the day is going to be okay. The SEC and the Big Ten are gonna continue to be financially, they're just the financial gap, the brand gap is going to continue to widen. What does that mean for the ACC and the Big 12 are screwed unless they do something ASAP, maybe they merge,

I don't know. And then anybody else that's not in those four conferences is really going to have a hard time. And then you're gonna start seeing more sports cut that are not football, basketball, and you know, LSU baseball or Yukon women's basketball. So that's, again, five years from now, we might see something a lot more dire than just,

well, you know, what's the fair market value for somebody? Can we please not use the word dire? That's very triggering to me as an Oregon guy. I don't like that. I don't like that word. Was he or was he not down? He was of course down. This is not, and by the way,

I say that as neutral arbiter of all things college football. Dyer was absolutely down. But I did want to just note a couple of things Seiko. You saying like maybe the ACC Big 12 merge one day, you just gave Drake toll an entire week of content. So he should thank you. I bet you he could get a month out of it. I bet you he could get a month out of it if he really put his mind to it.

But that's asking. Clip it, send it to him. Yeah, clip it and send it. You know, I'm going to text him once we get off this show. I've got the rest of your June planned out if you want to do all your shows in two days and take a vacation. Zach, on the NIL front for UCLA, do you think this helps the Bruins be more competitive or are you still just going to lose all your best players at USC?

I mean it's an interesting thing. Of course we could joke about all that and everything, but here's how- Yes, we can. That's why we do. It's like how you woo these players over, right? UCLA's biggest addition in the transfer portal in basketball, Donovan Dent, got reportedly up to a $3 million NIL deal deal right you go to collectives how is that going to affect this free agency right you see college football. Ludicrous amounts of N. I. L. deals signed with high school

kids with guys going to the portal one extra year going to the portal every year even Niko's situation looking for crazy amounts and I think the difference is some of that might shift over to the salary cap, right, when you're trying to pay one player. But how does the NIL affect it where, hey, we're going to add another two million in this quote unquote NIL deal, or is it a legitimate deal? And because LA is a bigger market, you're going to get more, right? What's the difference between we're just handing you the $3 million contract where it's getting shifted to this side versus what's your actual NIL value? That's the thing I'm wondering. And whether UCLA will do that for basketball

or how much the LA market helps them. Goins, make like John Denver and take us home on this conversation. I mean, it's all just gonna go to the highest bidder. You've got eight different ways you can pay an athlete now. And nobody's talking about all the illegal money that's still gonna be floating around in the duffel bags that just happen to be

on the hotel room bed. Careful there, you're making Mark uncomfortable. He's having flashbacks to the bad days. Reggie Boyd. It's just, it's true. I mean, you have all of this paper trail stuff. It's paper trail. It's what they're trying to do. They're trying to control it. And then it's just going to make the black market even worse. So it goes to the highest bidder. It doesn't matter if you're in California, Indiana, Florida, Hawaii, the highestder is gonna win and that's just where we are. All right Well, we're gonna do the most fun thing we've been doing on the show recently. Trent is so look at he's so dialed

He's so unbelievably dialed in. I bet you he's taken Iowa over seven and a half. I I bet he's the only one I I bet he's the only one We have just completely forgotten what it means to mute a microphone, but that's okay It's Trent starting or is he ending? How did we do this? We you asked Roman last week and you did Yeah, I wouldn't I went I went against him cuz you know, I Just for fun. Trent, I will actually allow you the pleasure of choosing whether you would like to go first or last in picking Iowa's win total this year.

I'm gonna clean it up here. I wanna hear what you, Jabron, has got to say. So let me know. Oh, that's hurtful. Oh, gosh, that felt like a personal targeted insult. For those who don't have Iowa's schedule memorized, they're going to score 38 points this year. And they play Albany.

Double their scoring output a year ago. Yeah, three to six points a game is certainly an accomplishment, Trent. There's no doubt about it. 15 to 27. Keep sharp and duck forward. How many to 27? 15 to 27.

OK, so you guys need to update your mathematics program over there at the Hawkeyes school There we go Albany at Iowa State UMass boy heavy hitters. They're sandwiching Iowa State Yeah, who could possibly have a non-conference schedule weaker than Iowa right gosh who who could do who could do that at the big ten? Rutgers oh look, Indiana. Oh wow funny they come up at Wisconsin Host Penn State hosts, Minnesota host, Oregon What a three week stretch though for week stretch with a bye for the Hawkeyes at USC, Michigan State, and at Nebraska. Craig, I'll start with you.

Their win total, according to our friends over at FanDuel Sportsbook, seven and a half over under Iowa. Go way under. And I'm typically very generous with Iowa because they always find ways to win games that they're not supposed to. They got all their eggs in the basket with this Mark Grunowski FCS quarterback. They seem to think he's going to fix everything. The Kade McNamara transfer was a disaster. Kirk Ferentz got got even suspended for a game and

then McNamara was hurt all the time. Look, Kirk Ferentz is I believe one win away from catching Woody Hayes for the all time Big Ten mark. He better get these early with with Albany and UMass because I look, if I give them Minnesota and Michigan State, there's four wins and 50-50 on the Rutgers game. So low end, four wins, high six, if they win a couple they're supposed to, I'll split the difference.

I'll say five and seven. And the schedule you mentioned with Oregon and Penn State and Indiana and USC, there's a lot of losses this year coming up. By the way, Trent, I'm just curious, And then we have a big 10 home game. And we have a big 10 home game game. And we have a big 10 home game game. And we have a big 10 home game game.

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Okay, well, that's my heart breaks for you. Okay, Mark, Iowa travels to the Coliseum for what? Oh, that could be just a glorious 13 to 10 football game. Are you worried about Iowa at all and how do you see their season going? I'm still trying to digest Albany. I mean, everybody gets one FCS. I've heard of UMass.

That's a basketball school, but I didn't even realize Albany had their own school. They're going to be look, they're going to be two and one coming out of their first three games. I love those rivalry games. I love when I will plays Iowa State. I don't know why it's just one of those little Midwestern rivalries that I actually enjoy watching but I look at the rest of that schedule and I'm like, hmm. Yeah six wins and Enjoy your season because that's that's where you're probably heading. Oh boy Seiko. You've got to go to Kinnick Stadium you've you've got are you worried at all about the upset potential?

I will say it is one of the it is probably one of the bigger trap games on Oregon schedule I will give that level of respect Geez, I guess I'm the only one that's gonna side with Iowa being a little more competitive than people are getting giving credit for. I think they're 4-0 to start. Indiana at home is helpful. That's a toss-up. I think they beat Wisconsin. Kinnick at night, if Penn State happens

to get that one in prime time, that concerns me a little more. I do view that one. I think the early projected spread was Penn State 14 1 1.5, but that happened the last time they were at Kinnick or two or two instances ago where they had to walk it off with Trace McSorley in the back of the end zone. No shade there. That was just that was close. That was a 12 point spread and Iowa nearly won that

game. So it took a it took a buzzer beater. They would beat Minnesota, Oregon. I would not look past them going to USC as an ideal and they beat Michigan State So that's what in the neighborhood of seven eight wins and then Nebraska on the road So they can go eight and four in my mind. I think that's pretty I think that's pretty doable I think their schedule is kind of loaded even though it doesn't have UCLA on it It's still it's still stacks Zach Anderson Yoxheimer I will say the most annoying fans I dealt with amongst the new Big Ten brethren they were of the Iowa Hawkeye variety when they came to the Rose Bowl. So I'm glad to send them back with an L. UCLA's homecoming night is you know I hate to say it but was their biggest one of the year for the Bruins but they did beat them. So Mark I think you'll

have your fair share of enjoyment of the Hawkeye fans when they come to USC. For Iowa though they have not been under seven and a half wins in a full season since fans when they come to USC. For Iowa though, they have not been under seven and a half wins in a full season since 2014 when they went seven and six and even then they're usually around eight to nine wins and in the 2020 season they were still six and two. So generally you give them a low number you add to because they find a way to win games you don't expect. So I say five plus two seven, which still is under seven wins. But I just don't understand after seeing what UCLA did to Iowa last year and UCLA was an all right team. We're being quite honest to an eight win Iowa team. I just I don't see them going over seven and a half wins despite historical trends pointing to them

over and going under a lot of Gibroni talk here when you would agree, Trent, a lot of that sort of talk. Goins, I know we've had this discussion before, but I'm going to pick Indiana to lose to Iowa. This is it's a it's a clinic. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. So anyway, that that game aside as a win in the Hawkeyes column, because I've never gotten a prediction wrong in my life, notably what, uh, what do you think Iowa's final record ends up being? I think they start four and one. Um, I think they are three and one, sorry, start three and one. And then there'll be three and two when Indiana comes to town and

take care of business there. I'm going to give Iowa a win at Wisconsin because I don't believe in Wisconsin. And I think Iowa is going to be much improved. Penn State at home is a huge opportunity. Not ready to give them that one just yet. I think they beat Minnesota. They will not beat Oregon. USC on the road is a tough one. They'll beat Michigan State. And if my math is correct, they give them seven wins heading to Lincoln. And I'll say they get it done because I have no other reason to. So yeah, they're going to Lincoln. Their season total is on the line. They get it done at Nebraska. Iowa goes over, give me an eight win Hawkeyes team at 22.

Wait a minute. I don't think your math is right. I don't think you came up with eight. Let's go back and do that again. Oh boy. They said the big 10 was a good academic conference and we're 0 for 2 on math equations today. He's smirching another Hoosier.

Albany, UMass, Rutgers, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan State, dang it. Dang it. Dang it. Ah! Oh, oh, oh, I got it, I got it, I got it, I got it. They're going to USC and getting a win. Who am I? Oh, there it is. There. There. I tell you what, I want to address Zach because USC and Iowa, they played a few times, but I will never forget this USC versus Iowa in the orange

bowl back in 2002. This was Iowa fan before the game. We're going to kick USCs, but you have no idea what you're dealing with. Yada, yada, yada. Brad bank should fan before the game. We're gonna kick USC's butt. You have no idea what you're dealing with. Yada, yada, yada. Brad Bank should have won the Heisman, not Carson Palmer. He should have. After the game, this was Iowa fan. And I'm not joking. We had to step over him to get back to our car. He's on the ground, both hands over the side of his head, writhing in pain. Make it stop. Make it stop. He couldn't get the USC fight song out of his head It was okay, you know what you know, you know what Trent the I Respect I respect Kinnick a lot.

It's a great, great environment. They've got a great tradition there, of course. And I'm gonna give Iowa over seven and a half. They got all their big games at home. I think they're gonna win some of them. I'll pick Iowa at nine and three. I think it's, I'm just, I'm going for it. I'm going for it.

Who are the three losses then? What if they will lose the Penn State they will lose to Oregon and they will lose to either Iowa State or USC or Wisconsin one of the three but they will go two and one in those games There is one automatic L I see on this schedule. It's not Penn State, it's not Oregon, it is the road trip to USC. Couple of reasons, well we saw it last year at UCLA. Kirk Ferentz is historically awful on the West coach. Regular season, post season, doesn't matter. They don't travel out there, he complains about it after they got whooped early in his tenure to Arizona and

Arizona State. He stopped scheduling games against the old Pac-12. He just stopped doing it because his teams did not play. That's the one that I said, no more. He said, we're not going to do it. Well, now he's going to have to. So I put that one as an L before Oregon, Penn State, Iowa State, any of the other ones in there. Indiana hasn't won a game at Iowa city since 2007. Everybody talking about under and, and Zach, Jacob, you brought it up. It's been a long time since I was been under that seven and a half total. I don't think they're going to be great.

And I think that's the one that I'm going was been under that seven and a half total. I don't think they're gonna be great and coming into the year before the transfer portal opened I thought this was gonna be a team that was gonna struggle just to get to bowl eligibility. Mark Gronowski though is going to be different. He's a true leader not the false Provado that we saw from Cade McNamara pumping his chest. He was a fight idol. He was a lot of, not the false bravado that we saw from Cade McNamara pumping his chest. He was a fight idol. He was a lot of pumping, not a whole lot of circumstance.

He was not the right leader. They have that guy in Mark Gronowski. I think you guys will be surprised. They took a step forward big time last year in the running game with a real offensive coordinator, that boy, Huey over there that is now fired, Brian, as he is out the door. Year number two of Tim Lester

The passing game is gonna take a big step forward. I don't think it's way over but it's over Iowa over seven and a half succinctly put succinctly I know my no I Crazy crazy things can happen there. All right, we'll put Trent. Well, well done Craig Scheman locked on Big Ten Zach Andersonaxamor of Lockdown UCLA was here until moments ago, but he just couldn't handle Trent talking. It was like the USC fight song for that Iowa Fed. Get him out of my head! Get him out of my head! Zach Seca locked on NetanyLions. Jacob Gohans locked on Hoosiers. Mark Kolkin locked on USC. I'm Spencer McLaughlin locked on all over the place. We'll see you next time and hope you all have a wonderful rest of your day.