Locked On Hawkeyes - Daily Podcast On Iowa Hawkeyes Football & Basketball - Big 10 SQUAD - How new NIL rulings impact the Iowa Hawkeyes

Episode Date: July 10, 2025

Big Ten football shakeup: NIL chaos, PJ Fleck's extension, and Penn State's title hopes. Can the Nittany Lions go undefeated in 2023?Spencer McLaughlin and the Locked On Big Ten Squad dissect the Augu...st 1st NIL deadline's potential impact on college football. The hosts debate PJ Fleck's controversial contract extension at Minnesota, questioning if it rewards mediocrity or secures long-term stability. Penn State's upcoming season takes center stage as the panel analyzes their 10.5 win total projection and key matchups against Ohio State and Oregon.Will fake NIL deals be exposed? Is this Penn State's year to dethrone the Buckeyes? Tune in for expert insights and bold predictions on the Big Ten's most pressing issues.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Is NIL out of control? Why is PJ Flett getting extended? Penn State to 11 wins again this year. That is all on today's Locked On Big Ten Squad. You're talking ball with the Big Ten Squad, sponsored by Game Time. From USC to Ohio State, from Michigan to Oregon, from Nebraska to Washington,
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Starting point is 00:00:38 I'm Spencer McLaughlin, your host. Jacob Goens of Locked On Hoosiers is here with Zach Anderson-Yaksimer of Locked On UCLA, Jay Stevens of Locked On Buckeyes, Ryan Herrings of Locked On Badgers, Zach Seiko of Locked On NetanyLines decided to show up as we're doing his team's win total today on the show. Mark Kolkin of Locked On USC has a new haircut and Roman Tomashev of Locked On Huskies is here as well. So all the reports, gentlemen, are flying around about NIL and this August 1st deadline where
Starting point is 00:01:07 quote unquote fake NIL deals with money that doesn't exist or players being overpaid. It could all go up in flames and I'm hesitant to say that that's going to happen, but hey, Seiko, it's possible. It appears legitimately possible. So do you think NIL is about to just remain status quo or get completely changed? I bet locked on SEC is that meme of SpongeBob in his brain where he's running around and everything's catching on fire and stuff. No. No. no. Disrespect. Yeah, our producers in that locked on SEC crowd.
Starting point is 00:01:51 So yeah, the clearinghouse, I'm not surprised it's being delayed because there's all, there's this backup and truckload of deals that are probably all illegitimate. And that's why they got to go through them with a comb and say, okay, this is okay, and this is not okay, and this is okay. So it's what we've been waiting for. It's a lot of people are probably sweating right now, or a lot of programs are sweating right now.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Are these going to stay intact? So, you know, look, I'm all for it, and I can't wait for the news, because then we'll have something tangible to react to than guessing, OK, who's going to get caught, or who's going to get penalized, that kind of thing. Seiko, we all know the only fake NIL deals are at USC. Come on now. Jay, you're reading on this situation.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Does this bother you at all? Are you still riding high off the national championship? I guess, sure, do whatever you want. It doesn't really bother me. I kind of view it like I do the playoff format for 2026, that December 1st deadline. I believe it when I see it. I don't know if it's August 1st, September 1st. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:00 But I do know at some point, things are going to come up. And people, there will be chaos in the sport because things have been going on that shouldn't have been going on for quite a long time I'm glad things are starting to get cleaned up or they will get cleaned up down the road But I'll believe that August 1st date when I see it Roman Yeah, no, I'm with Jay on that one There are certainly a lot of programs outside of just the SEC that are going to be put under a microscope
Starting point is 00:03:23 I'm not gonna name any names the big 10 chats. We don't all just start, you know, yelling at each other like Oregon or anything. No, yeah. You wouldn't want to. Oh, wow. You found a way to work it in. That's incredible. I'm so surprised.
Starting point is 00:03:35 I'm so surprised you found a way to get a jab in there about caring about winning. Yeah. Anyway, continue. Instead of trying to monopolize all of it, I don't want to spend a second on Texas Tech too because I think that's one program that I'm really interested to see what happens Anyway, continue. Instead of trying to monopolize all of it, I do want to spend a second here on Texas Tech, too. Because I think that's one program that I'm really interested to see what happens with. And I think as we start to see if any of this
Starting point is 00:03:51 does turn into reality, that's one program after signing Felix Ojo to win a $5.1 million deal over the next couple of years. That's something I'm very curious to see, just where that falls in with all this as well. Yeah, big offensive tackle commit that they got over Texas amongst other schools. But Zach, you guys down there at UCLA
Starting point is 00:04:12 are now in the weird, messy NIL space of such with Niko. Are you worried that the dollars are about to fall through and that Niko will be transferring again? I mean, that could still happen without the dollars falling through. So I'm not sure if that's the reason why I think the fact that they're in the conversation is something to look into, but I think they're doing just fine. And if they're worried about money, there's many places they could go. They're coming to UCLA for things other than just the NIL.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Ryan, your take. I don't care. Like, you know, I was so excited to talk college football with seven other people. And we're talking about the clearinghouse. We're like a bunch of nerds. Like, I don't care. I don't care at all. Okay, Ryan, I don't know if you can use the word nerd disparagingly. You and I were texting about Lego Masters
Starting point is 00:04:58 earlier today. Let me say this, like, who are the best teams right now? I don't know. It's like Penn State, Ohio State, like, who are the best teams right now? I don't know. It's like Penn State, Ohio State, Miami, Georgia. Who are the best teams 20 years ago? Did you say Indiana? I did not. Somebody did.
Starting point is 00:05:12 My point was, nothing's changed. Upstart here and there. Like it's the same stuff. The same best teams are the same best teams. I don't care. I'm so sick of talking about NIL. Like football is a couple months away from practices. I just don't care anymore.
Starting point is 00:05:26 And let's also point out, the teams that this is going to impact, it's not the Wisconsin's. I don't care. I just don't care. I'm ready to talk football. I don't care. OK, Goins, do you think all this NIL talk does anything to materially change
Starting point is 00:05:39 the landscape of the sport? No, not on a grand scheme of things. And so many of these teams are saying, Augustst is when the real deals can go out and August 1st is when pen goes to paper. Who cares? Like Jay said, and so many others. It's like, August 1st isn't the saving grace for all these teams like Indiana or anybody else. Like, since when has a rule been in place that's actually been held up and disciplined and teams have been punished to the full force of a rule or the law? Since when has that ever happened? So none of that's going to happen. It'll all come out eventually. And what I say, what I say, I'm sitting right here still getting over the sanctions. I'm saying to put to the fullest extent. No, there's no sitting right here.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Jacob. I know you or LSU or any Michigan or any of these other teams have never been punished to the full extent of any rule and then all these other rules that float around out there. They don't get held up to the fullest extent is what I'm trying to say. It could be worse, Mark. It could be worse. I do see, I do see Jacob's defense. I understand the point that he's making, but the optics of when has anyone ever been punished for paying players? Mark's like, my guy lost his Heisman trophy for two decades. Good. Mark, you can chime in here.
Starting point is 00:07:04 I don't know what the fullest the fullest extent of the law is. The only thing they didn't do was go SMU on USC. I mean, they did pretty much what they wanted to do, Jacob. Too bad too. Well, we got it all. And as far as NIL's concern in USC, I'm with Ryan. I don't care. The reason I don't care is because of location location location
Starting point is 00:07:28 Hopefully Zach can get Casey Wasserman to step up to plate and take advantage of their location Because that's what it's all about that That whole thing of fair market value USC has it they they can say you know what yeah We can we can pay this player this amount of money because look at our TV market, look at our national market, look at our global market. It's that type of thing. So, yeah, I'm with Ryan. I don't care. Let's play football.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Quite frankly, Texas Tech was brought up earlier. I'm not that opposed to a world where a school that suddenly wants to get somebody that really wants their program to succeed and pour money into it, and that can lead to success both off and on the field. I don't think that's necessarily the worst, but the funny part about all this, of course, is I don't think it has a great chance, in fact, I think it has a pretty bad chance,
Starting point is 00:08:19 to get held up by the courts, who have pretty consistently said, yeah, you can't tell these kids what they are and are not allowed to earn. They're 18 years old. You got to let them make if it's a consensual arrangement between the two, then that's all that really matters there. So we're talking coaching hot seat when we come back because some people, Brandon, and
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Starting point is 00:09:53 In a big 10 coaching move, we all expected and saw coming. PJ Fleck up at Minnesota got extended through the year 2030. Now, he hasn't had a double-digit win season since 2019. They were solid last year. They went five and four at Big Ten, played five overalls. There's nothing wrong with that.
Starting point is 00:10:17 It's respectable, but Seiko, it's not, the irony's not lost to me that I'm starting with you at this. Do you feel like this is rewarding a coach that maybe still has another gear left to prove? Wink wink. The first thing I wanted to talk about was loyalty because I've heard rumors that he was exploring other options that he was interested in the North Carolina job.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Again, I don't know how substantial those are, but what are you rewarding at that point? Because what does PJ Fleck, do we know how committed he is there if he's shopping around for other potential head coaching jobs? And then again, all right, so you want to say wink, wink to me. What about the true definition of mediocrity here? At least Penn State's making a college football playoff and consistent double digit win seasons and New Year's six bowl games. What does PJ Fleck have? What does he have anything that he can say like, well, we got over 500. Well, we're you know, we're doing they're doing okay. But at some point, when when is seven and five? Not is when is that bad? When is seven and five not is when is that bad when is seven and five
Starting point is 00:11:27 after year after year after year bad I believe PJ fleck is undefeated in bowl games for what it's worth I was about to bring that up my guy is six and oh he's won the quick lane bowl the outback bowl the rate bull, the pinstripe bull, the quick lane bull, and the Duke's mayo bull. God. Wait, did they dump mayo on him? Oh, yeah. I think they did.
Starting point is 00:11:52 And he soaked it up, like he's the dorkiest. That's the closest to a Gatorade battle. That's the most Minnesota thing I've ever heard is somebody enjoying the mayonnaise, getting dumped on them. He enjoys eating time when the camera is on him. Yach Simer, wasn't you UCLA in the mix trying to go after him? Am I crazy in saying that? No, he was in the mix there.
Starting point is 00:12:10 So you know, speaking of loyalty, yeah, it's ridiculous that it's getting an extension to 2030. Yeah, Jay, if Ohio State, let's just say, I'm trying to apply Minnesota's expectations to Ohio State. Let's say Ohio State went- You can't do it. You can't compare the two of them. I'm trying to take the equivalent with what they can achieve, what their floor is and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:12:37 If Ohio State went five straight years making the playoff but didn't win a single playoff game in that stretch, would you ever consider extending Ryan Day? No, not at all. I get the Minnesota thing though, for Minnesota's sake. They're comfortable with where he is right now with the program and with where Minnesota's football team is, they know they're not gonna make the playoff, they know they're not gonna be in the running
Starting point is 00:13:03 to be in the Big Ten Championship game. They understand that. They're comfortable. Eight wins, nine wins, maybe a double-digit win here or there. They're cool with that. They're comfortable with PJ Fleck, but through 2030 is a little odd. I'm cool giving him an extension, but that long? I can't get down with that. Yeah. Roman, let's again, kind of same hypothetical here. If Jed Fish went eight and four this year, forget what happens to the bowl game, seven and five, seven and five. At the end of that stretch, would you want to extend him and be like, yeah, let's add
Starting point is 00:13:37 on another year or two to his contract? No, absolutely not. It made me think back to, it's going to sound weird because of what he's been able to do recently, but the Steve Sarkeesian years at Washington, where it was consistently just slightly above mediocre, where it was like, oh yeah, you're going seven and five. Like to Seiko's point, I honestly had no idea that he's almost 20 games over 500
Starting point is 00:13:58 at this point as a coach of Minnesota. He's 58 and 39, which it adds up after a while and it looks fine. But at the end of the day, it it's, it's underwhelming. Like we sit here week in week out, whenever Minnesota comes up, we just kind of laugh it off because we know it's not serious at any point in time. No, that's never a guy I'd want to extend. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Speaking of mediocrity in football, Zach, I a nicer person than I am, just generally speaking. What would you want to see from Deshaun Foster in the next three years to warrant a contract extension? I would think continue to build up UCLA recruiting, obviously build in the attendance, and then UCLA would have to go eight wins to nine wins to get the contract extension. I think that's a good thing. to build up U-sealer recruiting, obviously build in the attendance, and then U-sealer have to go eight wins to nine wins by the end of that third year. And if it's not happening, then there clearly needs to be a change.
Starting point is 00:14:51 But obviously it's building from the bottom up at this point. Ryan, are you expecting to not have to worry about an extension with a coach for a long time because you'll first be worrying about the new contract of the next guy or how do you how do you read the situation? Yeah, like, let me first of all, I hate that state. Like I'm from Wisconsin, like there are a lot of which gears I do. Let me tell you. Telling me of Luke Fickle gets canned.
Starting point is 00:15:19 You don't want to hire PJ Flack. First of all, we're talking about a coach that's 33 and 36 in conference and he's been rewarded for it. I love it. As a Wisconsin fan, there's no threat. I love it. They're not gonna hit a ceiling under him because he's proven it. Let me tell you just really quick,
Starting point is 00:15:35 because I hate that state. And I was so jazzed up that we got to talk about PJ Fleck. When my oldest son was younger, I bought him a map of America, like puzzle pieces, right? Educational, you build it. And I took the, before I could do it, I bought him a map of America, like puzzle pieces, right? educational, you build it. And I took that before I could do it, I took the Minnesota piece out. So he put the problem together. And he's like three
Starting point is 00:15:51 or four, it's like, Dad, we're missing a piece. I'm like, no, son, that's where the hell fires hit. So I actually told him like, thinking that the middle of the country was like this burning. And for years, he did this and then eventually but kids will believe anything you tell them I was and my wife is like, hey, he's gonna go to school now we got to like, because he's gonna have like a waterboy moment where he goes in and the professor's like, no, there's a state there and he's like, no, my dad told me that
Starting point is 00:16:19 place is gone. My point is I hate that state. I hate that program. He's a Courtney coach and the rewarding mediocrity and I love it. So let's go. That's incredible. That is, that is the future youth of America, baby. That is awesome. I can't believe the educational standards in this country are dropping. It's hard to fathom how we got to that point. What age was he before you told him? Oh gosh, he was probably six or seven. Are you letting him go on for three years?
Starting point is 00:16:52 For a couple years I was telling him I invented a microwave. And he's like, wow dad, you're so amazing. I didn't let that one go quite as long, but the Minnesota thing, oh yeah, like when we were young we used to sneak into our local campground and all the campers had Minnesota license plates, we'd steal their coolers and like dump them away. Like, I hate that state. So, I'm all about it, man.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Reward that dude for as long as possible because they're not hitting anything more than a 7-5 season with them. Did y'all ever like drive through the state of Minnesota and just have to like cover his eyes when the big sign came on? We used to like litter in Minnesota. Now, that's bad. You shouldn't do that. Like I'm not, I was young but I'm just telling you like that's a real thing. Minnesota, Wisconsin, we play for the Axe. It's a rivalry. We don't like each other. Like it's a real thing. So again, I'm okay with them extending the dork because he's not, they're not going to win
Starting point is 00:17:42 with them. Wow. Goins, do you want to try and follow that up? I mean, not really. We can talk about coaching extension. Signetti has been here for a year. We extended him eight years. He's here through 2032, making 8 million a year with a million
Starting point is 00:17:56 dollar retention bonus every year. We're all about extending coaches over here, man. All good things in Bloomington. I got nothing to say about litter in any other state, though. Mark, what would it take for you to want to extend Lincoln Riley? What would it take to extend him? Yeah, he's got to get to the playoffs, period. Bottom line, there's no other answer to that question.
Starting point is 00:18:22 I thought you were asking about PJ Flett, but. Oh, well, I just figured you were disinterested. I do. But hey, if you want, if you, if you want to engage the conversation with the rest of us by all means. PJ Fletch did beat his team. That's true. I'm not sure I'm in a lying story. Do they still do show and tell? And if they, if your son brought you to school, what do you do? Do you show up with a master's green jacket on
Starting point is 00:18:57 So the reason why I'm sorry PJ the reason why PJ's like got extended They meet USC which proves that USC is still relevant nationally But I guess my question would be this When does what does PJ's contract run out because extending to 2030 isn't really that big of a deal? I mean, it's really it's five years away and usually that's all about recruiting just showing the the guys out there Yeah, they'll be around when you graduate I'm not the buyout is probably not that big, I would imagine.
Starting point is 00:19:28 I would imagine the buyout is probably the biggest reason they did it, is so that if he does get poached by another school, because he does have some good seasons. I could see how another school would wanna hire him. He's got an 11 win season, they ended 2019, ranked number 10 in the country. They had back to back nine win seasons, and eight wins this past year.
Starting point is 00:19:44 It's not like he can't win. I just saw extension. I was like, I don't know. He's good. He's good. He's good. To be fair, I mean, I'm going to do better than PJ. Jed fish. The Shire Ryan at this point Yeah, right Ryan's gotten an illustrious coaching record at Bishop sycamore high school, that's Yeah, okay now for the fun part of the show We always save the best for last Penn State's win total is ten and a half over under where do we go? That is coming up next all right Seiko you're gonna have to let us talk about your team for a while and then you will you'll have your moment you will have you'll have your moment so
Starting point is 00:20:39 I'll start Penn State over. 11 wins minimum. I don't know if they're gonna beat Ohio State. I'm so tempted to pick it. I'm so tempted to be that idiot sucker that takes them in a big game on the road at Ohio State. I'm really tempted. I'm gonna wait. I think it's 11 wins minimum for the Nittany Lions.
Starting point is 00:21:02 This is one of my favorite over bets on the board, not just in the big 10, but in the country at 10 and a half per our friends at FanDuel. Jay, what say you? Spencer, I agree with you. And I was originally thinking I was gonna go under because the number is so high. This schedule is pretty easy.
Starting point is 00:21:20 There's really only two games where it's a toss up between will Penn State win? Will the other team win? Like it's really just that easy. You can walk into the season and get 10 wins. Like it's that easy for Penn State. The only tough games is home against Oregon on the road at Ohio State. You're probably going to split that. Go one on one of those two games. There's your 11 wins. Seiko, I can't be, I can't talk bad about the team right now. They got a lot of talent coming back. James Franklin's a walking 10, a level win coach. So I got a level wins for the Nittany Lions right now Roman
Starting point is 00:21:52 Do not clip this I agree with Spencer. All right. I just got it. I got Brandon clip it clip it now clip it. I do have the over. I agree with everything Jay said this is such an easy schedule I I do have the over. I agree with everything Jay said. This is such an easy schedule. I can't take them to win on the road at Ohio State, but I do think that they do end up having 11 wins in the schedule. They do beat Oregon at home. I can. I'll set that one in stone right now. But on top of that, everything Jay said holds true. There's so much experience coming back. I don't want to pick James Franklin to win big games in the playoff as of this moment. But I do like everything that they have on this roster right now. And I think that with where this conference is sitting, it getting 11 wins is not going to be very hard for this team. For those listening or watching who have not memorized their schedule, it goes like this Nevada FIU Villanova, just a murderers row of a non-conference by Indiana standards. And we talk crap about Indiana, yeah come on now let's at least give, are we not giving things to Indiana? Okay I mean at least Nevada is a group of five team, I mean I guess Old Dominion is
Starting point is 00:22:53 two, but right Old Dominion is a G5? So why are we talking crap about Indiana? No that's true but not because. Well because Indiana's is worse and also you're you, Jacob. So that's why. Anyway, they open Big Ten play against Oregon at home off a bye, which seems highly unfair, by the way. Then they go at UCLA, cakewalk, Northwestern, at Iowa. That could get interesting, but probably not.
Starting point is 00:23:19 At Ohio State, host Indiana, at Michigan State, host Nebraska, and then go at Rutgers. Zach, do you think UCLA's got any shot to pull an upset here in a line that I imagine is a pretty sizable point spread? I mean, it's a long trip to UCLA. It's their first road game of the year. They play, what, a few weeks from late August till October before they go on the road?
Starting point is 00:23:44 That's a pretty crazy schedule for Penn State to get all those home games in a row. Obviously, there'll be big, big underdogs at home, but the Bruins want to make a statement. That's the game early in the schedule to do it. Penn State, I could see them messing around and get two losses in the regular season before going on a run Ohio State-esque
Starting point is 00:24:00 like this last season, but they're gonna go over. Ryan, you got a high level of confidence is anyone gonna take an under at this point? Oh there oh oh Ryan's Ryan's Ryan's got faith in the Ducks. Listen not dramatically I mean Penn State's really good their experience all the coordinators the running back should be really good but let's we don't know how good the receivers are gonna to be coming off of last year, losing Warren's a big deal. I know there's talent behind him, but that's a massive loss for this team.
Starting point is 00:24:30 I don't think they're going to win in Columbus. I really don't. And then you still have Oregon that Iowa game is going to be a night game in Kinnick, almost guaranteed that it's going to be a night game. And the teams that I would typically struggles with it's teams with more dynamic quarterbacks, more, more quarterbacks that can get out of the pocket and threatened. That's
Starting point is 00:24:45 not what Penn State's gonna do. Listen, Penn State's really good. Obviously, 11 wins is a cakewalk when you have to go to Iowa, when you have Oregon, when you have Ohio State, I'm gonna take the under I think it's 1011 stuff like teams typically lose a game they shouldn't lose. This is college football. This is not you know, you know, know, the simming it out in a video game. College football, weird things happen.
Starting point is 00:25:09 So, I'm taking the under, 10 wins, still a really good year, still a really good team. Give me the under. Goins, where would you place your money if you had to on 10 and a half? Look, the schedule is easy, like everybody has said. The road game at Ohio State is tough, but I think Penn State's the better team.
Starting point is 00:25:30 And look, the shoe's a tough place to play. I assume that'll be a big noon kick if that's announced or hasn't already been announced. I mean, that'll be one of those early games that Ohio State fans have been upset about for years, and understandably so. But then there's the game in Happy Valley that's gonna display two undefeated teams
Starting point is 00:25:48 late in the Big 10 season when the Hoosiers come to town. And that's when all hell breaks loose. Penn State loses their first game of the year. I'm kidding. I think- Okay, good. Good, I was worried. Oh, I was kidding about Penn State and Ohio State.
Starting point is 00:26:03 I think Penn State will lose the Ohio State game after being seven and oh, they'll also lose the Indiana game. They'll win out, they'll have 10 wins. They'll go under 10 and a half, but they'll still compete for a national title. I'm ashamed that that was allowed to go out on our airwaves as a network,
Starting point is 00:26:19 but I don't have control over everything. I can, okay, all right, Mark. What'd you say? Nothing. Gosh. I actually don't know what he said. I don't either. I asked Brandon to cut it.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Ah, ah, okay. We're introducing this. Speaking of cut it, Mark with the new haircut, go for it. So I'm going under, I'm with Ryan, it's college football. That game at UCLA, I'm not saying Penn State's gonna lose that game, but it is their first row game and it's coming off a very highly emotionally charged game at home against Oregon.
Starting point is 00:26:58 So you gotta take that into consideration. And then you're just looking at where else can Penn State lose? No one's mentioning Michigan State late in the year in East Lansing. You guys like to talk about the weather all the time in the Midwest. East Lansing November 15th, it's a crappy weather. It's snow in heavy snow. Pennsylvania never gets any snow. It's the East Coast Los Angeles. Mark's down in LA being like, nowhere gets snow, some places get snow. Are you playing it in Happy Valley or are you playing it in East Lansing?
Starting point is 00:27:33 That's the difference between the weather comparison you're making. I don't think the Michigan State point is horrible. I think Michigan State is a sneaky, solid team this year. Jonathan Smith works in quiet and mysterious ways. Nothing to sneeze at 10 wins at. Don't get upset. I'm not. I'm just saying, I think the weather comparison's funny.
Starting point is 00:27:54 On the road, you might be the leader with injury. You don't know what your roster's going to look like as well. Just look at some of the nuance. We don't know what Michigan State's roster's going to look like. They could be absolutely ravaged. But we're talking about your team where they could possibly lose. All right, Seiko, the time has come.
Starting point is 00:28:12 The stage is yours. I hope you're about to say that Penn State is going 12 and 0. Oh wow, I get the solo shot too. This is like at the end of Rest in Peace around the horn, but yeah. So Penn State absolutely can go 12 and oh they this is this is the year to beat Ohio State. If they don't do it this year, then I don't know that I see it for the next three, four, five
Starting point is 00:28:36 years beyond him. I mean, that's beyond recruiting classes that we're focusing on. So this is the year to beat Ohio State. This is the closest, if not past Ohio State at this point in time. They beat Oregon. They get Oregon in a spot early in the season with that whiteout game. So that's, I mean, that's not an ideal setup for the ducks. Spencer, I'm surprised we didn't address that since you are the neutral arbiter, of course. You just kind of brushed over like, uh, so they, that line by the way, is Penn State minus four and a half. You said it would be seven and a half, and I told you it would be around four or five.
Starting point is 00:29:08 It could move. It could move. It's early. I just wanted to- It's early. It's early. Thank you, Brandon. This schedule is favorable for Penn State. Traveling to UCLA is not ideal for that's all the way across the west coast. That's where
Starting point is 00:29:25 you'd want to play in Michigan state because I do think Michigan state gets better as the season goes along but I don't think it has anything to do with weather. So the game that I have circled the most is Ohio state accordingly so because Julian Sayen will be adjusted at that point in time. Same thing with Brian Hartline's offense maybe a a Matt Patricia. I can't believe I'm saying that Matt Patricia defense, that's going to take a full 12 games to get adjusted to. So that's where I think Ohio state breaking all of that in together. It's just the natural attrition of, of, of the sports you're going to have turnover at points in time. Penn state's trending up. Ohio state took enough of a step backwards for Penn state to get that victory.
Starting point is 00:30:06 So I will take 12 and 0 at this point in time. Woo! With all that considered, what is on paper? Woo! 12 and 0 for the Nittany Lions. Is anybody prepared for that? I am. Seiko is.
Starting point is 00:30:19 And absolutely nobody else is. But we are ready to wrap the squad for the week. Zach Seiko locked on Nittany Lions. Jay Stevens locked on Buckeyes. Roman Tomashev locked on Huskies, and everybody else. Brandon, what are you doing? I'm Spencer McLaughlin of Locked On Wherever. We'll see you next time. Until then, hope you have a wonderful day.

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