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Episode Date: November 7, 2024

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Well, how will the Tez Johnson injury affect number one Oregon? Penn State has its whiteout against Washington. Ohio State a week off against Purdue. And Indiana, a two-touchdown favorite over Michigan. Let's talk. It's time for the Locked On Big Ten Squad. You're talking ball with the Big Ten Squad. From USC to Ohio State, from Michigan to Oregon, from Nebraska to Washington,

it's the local experts of the Locked On Podcast Network, bringing you scoops, breakdowns, and the most comprehensive preview of the upcoming Big Ten weekend. No hurt feelings and thin skin allowed. Squad up. You're part of the Big Ten Squad. Welcome to the Big Ten Squad. Just sit back and enjoy.

I'm Craig Schemann, host of Locked On Big Ten, and we're going to shoot the breeze and get ready for another big weekend of college football around the Big Ten. Today's episode is brought to you by FanDuel. Place your first $5 bet and you'll get started with $150 in bonus bets guaranteed. Visit FanDuel.com and get started today. All right. We got Spencer McLaughlin from Locked On College Football. Locked On Oregon Ducks. We got Zach Sico from Locked On Nittany Lions. We got Roman Tomaschoff from Locked On College Football, Locked On Oregon Ducks. We got Zach Sico from Locked On Nitty Lions.

We got Roman Tomaschoff from Locked On Huskies. They're on a roll at USC. We're all good. Gentlemen, how are you? Let's start off with the Oregon Ducks. Hey, Roman, look, I'm doing the Will Rogers. Yeah, the Mississippi? Yeah, because all it is is an M.

That's really all it is. Yeah, or in some other circles, downward facing W I see an M Spencer, solid, solid situational awareness there from, from Washington's quarterback. Oh, we'll get there. Don't worry. All right. I see your Oregon ducks in the background. Is that a Mickey mouse logo on yours? Yes, this is, Mickey Mouse on my golf polo that I'm wearing. I just got back from the golf course and thought, you know what? He brought me some pretty good vibes out there, so why can't the vibes continue to roll here?

Very, very pro-mouse here. Spencer, I think that's fitting because you're playing a Mickey Mouse team. There we are. Now we are into it. Spencer, what what's your handicap what'd you shoot today i shot two over and i lost a match to my friend because i have to give him six shots because i'm currently at a plus 0.5 and i can't play to that very well uh at this point in time because well it's busy season shall shall we say so i am i'm a handicapped nightmare on the golf course but that doesn't

mean I suck. Wow. It sounds like you're pretty good to me. All right. Oregon looked pretty good going into the big house, owning it, winning the game. Tez Johnson got hurt. Thankfully, it's not a season ender, but your thoughts coming out of that. And by the way, love the silver helmets and the white. So good. So good. So so very very good uh elite uniform game i think across the board michigan and oregon michigan just a very classic solid look and the contrast that the ducks uniforms had i thought what was really good but talking tez johnson i think oregon can be okay for now you know it's maryland it's wisconsin on the road next week then it's a bye and then it's washington oregon should be able to win any of those games without Tez Johnson there.

The Big Ten championship game is where I'd most and first like to have Tez Johnson back. And certainly if they're not careful, Washington's a better team than their record looks. Wisconsin's solid, got to play them on the road next week. But I think the Big Ten championship game would be an ideal target return date. But the guys that he's got stepping up to fill his shoes, really good. I mean, Evan Stewart, get this, six of nine games this year for Oregon. Evan Stewart has been under 30 receiving yards. So that, to me, is a pretty natural fit to replace that production.

Is Oregon's offense at its best when Evan Stewart, Treshawn Holden, and Tez Johnson are your top three receivers? Yes, absolutely. Justice Lowe has proved himself incredibly capable, and I think Evan Stewart sees a bigger role. And I think this Oregon passing attack with a couple of great tight ends can still find a lot of success. Before we unleash Zach and Roman back and forth pre-whiteout game,

Zach, big weekend this weekend, same result against Ohio State, a top five teams. I know there's a lot of frustration coming out of Happy Valley. You're still a playoff team, so there's good news in my opinion anyway. But what do you think coming off that week before we look ahead to this upcoming weekend? I mean, I'm not surprised that this happened, right? I picked against the Nittany Lions, and I mean, I knew the Buckeyes better than the locked-on Buckeyes guy, right?

Not me, though. Not me. Just I know Jay's team better than he knows his own team. Just think about that. You and I were on the same page there. better than he knows his own team. Just think about that. You and I were on the same page there, but nothing changed for me personally because in the preseason, I said, you know what?

Ohio State's most likely going to be a loss. Look at USC as that potential game that could trip Penn State up. 10-2 is the safe bet. They could probably go 11-1 and host a college football playoff game. Well, here we are. They still can go 11-1,

but I don't like this matchup against Washington. It's the whiteout. I get it, but Washington's peaking and Penn State's coming off of this emotional loss against Ohio State. So, and if history's told me anything, Penn State doesn't respond very well when they lose that game to Ohio State. Yikes. Roman, and you got this game. Now you guys don't play well on the road but hey you did beat USC this weekend and that's worth two wins in my book so actually you know if it's worth two to you it's worth three to me and this is the second year in a row that Washington has completely devastated the USC program where this year they're forcing a quarterback change last year after

Dylan Johnson ran for 256 yards and four touchdowns, they fired Alex Grinch, which is devastating to me personally because there's nobody I love hating on more than Alex Grinch. I consider him my number one enemy in the world of college football. But no, it's riding high. It's wonderful. Anytime you get a win over USC, you've got to love that. Zach, I don't know if I'd use the word peaking when describing Washington. I'd say they're on an upward trajectory where this is kind of the win that you've been looking for,

especially after spending a month away from Husky Stadium. That wasn't fun to 9 a.m. games, you know, Pacific Coast time out here, Pacific Coast time superiority. But, yeah, facts, factual, factual statement there. There's there's our point of unity between the oregon and washington fan bases nothing beats the pacific time zone for sports i don't zach i legitimately don't know how you live in the eastern time zone and are a diehard sports fan that stuff looks horrible i mean i don't like it i don't because thank goodness i'm not a uf uf fan. Because a lot of those events happen at 11 o'clock midnight. Yeah, it'd be terrible.

And I'm like, geez, man. So it's great for the West Coast. But East Coast, you better have a late bedtime. Rutgers, I think, kicked off against USC 11 Eastern time. Like, are Scarlet Knight fans recording the game, staying up late? I honestly don't know. Also, speaking of peaking, I haven't had dinner yet, and my mind went straight to Peking duck,

which is a really solid dish in Americanized Chinese cuisine. I presume it's actually in China as well. I haven't been before, but I just thought I would share that for no particular reason. So I actually have a question on that front as well. As the Oregon guy, why are you gonna like talk about cooked duck that just seems like a bad omen like i have a commercial that does the same thing right now that we yeah that's what i was thinking there there is um there is there is something that i've i have discussed on on the show before and that's that i i have a love of food and I just, I have to be completely honest. Duck when prepared properly is very good. It's very, it's, it's very good.

And I mean, it pains me to say that I wish it was terrible and I could crap on, but like, I got to tell you the crispy duck expert, the crispy duck at the Lotus of Siam and Las Vegas is maybe the greatest individual thing I've ever eaten. eaten all right let's get back to football i love greg just like he doesn't know where we're going that's every week around here listen you know as long as you're talking about mascots i don't know about eating them or not but as long as we have zach here i've always wanted to ask about the penn state nittany lion mascot it looks like it was stuffed in somebody's attic for 70 years and dragged out we need an

upgrade uh they just made an update to the suit for what it's worth i i don't know about a change stuffed in somebody's attic for 70 years and dragged out. We need an upgrade. They just made an update to the suit for what it's worth. I don't know about a change to the mascot per se. Did they update the offense while they were at it? Well, hey, it looked good up until they played a top five defense. So, yes, because I will stand by the fact that Andy Kotelnicki gets you wins against, yes, West Virginia, Illinois, and USC. A Mike Yursich offense does not. Why are we not using Tyler Warren when we're on the three-yard line?

That's a mystery to me. Because he just ran for 40 yards. I get maybe on third or fourth and goal. But on those first two plays, I wouldn't be surprised if the man is gassed at that point in the fourth quarter. Is he Anthony Richardson now? He's asking out because he's tired. He got 17 catches and 224 yards against USC. Like they, they have utilized him hindsight's 2020. Bo for Bula should have been in there. Honestly, out of all players that wasn't used, like he was fresh Tyler Warren, uh, just ran 40, 50 yards on the play before. I'm not surprised

that they didn't give him the football right away. And then Ohio state covered him on those follow-up plays. Let's be real. Tyler Warren could have a completion percentage in the NFL that rivals Anthony Richardson's. That's a hundred percent. Yeah. Somewhere. Brandon Olson is just dying to get me kicked off of this network. The veins are popping out of his forehead. All right. We're just warming up. We've got a lot of other games to talk about, and I want to ask these guys about TV times because there may be a built-in disadvantage for the Big Ten. I'll explain that when we continue in another minute

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because obviously with Penn State and Washington playing the whiteout game this year, this weekend uh look i think uh penn state would have preferred the ohio state game be under the lights the whiteout game they have to settle for this one uh because of the fox contract and fox's niche is the big noon kickoff and uh let's talk about that a little bit actually start with spencer then we'll come back down to you guys uh and because i talk about this on my radio show all the time. It's like the Big Ten has its marquee games at noon. It's not a primetime. The ratings aren't usually what they should be.

This weekend, by the way, it's Purdue at Ohio State. Help us with that. That'll be a low-rated game. I think the number's 38 points on that one. But what do you think? We've got NBC, Big Ten Saturday night. The SEC's playing at night. Sometimes we have a good 3.30 game, but a marquee game usually at noon.

Spencer, do you have any thoughts on this? I mean, this is the way it's going to be. That's where the money goes. Well, first of all, 37 and a half. We shouldn't even be talking about it on this show, let alone be the big noon kickoff game. Are analysts going to sit there with a straight face and talk about this game and say,

here's how Purdue can keep it close. The Boilermakers have really done some nice things. No, they haven't. They're just bad. They stink. They're trying to figure out a lot of different things right now. So that's the first thing. The second thing is I'd like to bring this conversation back to USC.

I'm so glad that USC blew up the Pac-12 so that they could go and lose to Big Ten and Pac-12 teams in the same season. I'm really, really glad that that happened. You can chime in in just a moment. I'm not done getting all of my anger out here. Oh, no, no, no. I'm just going to add to your point. I would very much hope so. But the fact that USC has put us in this position.

UCLA wasn't dying to leave the Pac-12. They went along for the ride. USC wanted to leave because they were too good for the league. But look, Lincoln Riley has proved unequivocally that he can suck in any conference as the Trojans head coach, and that we should commend him for. All right. spencer all i all i want to add to your point is can you say a little bit louder that usc killed the pac-12

one other thing that you and i can agree on on the oregon washington thing here is that oregon and washington did not do this oregon washington are not like the perpetrators of all this oregon and washington said we need to survive because of what USC did and I feel like that gets lost in all of this and that's just yeah I most frustrating look Roman anyone that comes at you with a remark of Oregon and Washington are just as responsible for killing the Pac-12 as USC just send them my way and I'll try to set them straight and if I can't that's where the mute button comes into play because this is just clear and obvious based on everything that has been reported. I don't know if there's anyone that has talked about this at this network as much as myself

and probably Drake Toll of Locked On Big 12. This is how it happened. That is true, but everybody benefited because of it. Oregon's making more money. Washington is making more money. USC and UCLA are making more money. USC and UCLA are making more money. Oregon's actually not making more money right now. Really? Follow up on that. I thought they were. No. Oregon and Washington are getting half shares of the media rights contract. So for

the next five, six years. That's still more than the Pac-12. The Pac-12 was offering $30 million per season. The Pac-12 was going to get $30 million a year. And so for the next five years, that'll go up by $1 million per year. And it's like $31 million this year, which I'm here to tell you for Oregon and yes, for Washington as well, that is a drop in the bucket that is not making any discernible difference in what their operating expenses are across all of their sports. Paying coaches, NIL, everything like that. That's not making a huge dent. Once it becomes a full share, then you will say, okay, this is now a sizable financial difference. But I'm noticing that

the other schools are getting that money. Oregon is not getting that money yet. And yet Oregon is a current favorite to win the Big Ten in spite of that. It's almost as if there were other factors at play. But USC was too good for the Pac-12. They wanted to go show that they were ready for the Big Ten, and they are definitely not, even though I believed in them this year. I thought they were an 8-9 win team with a really difficult schedule and Lincoln Riley's offense is just a complete dumpster fire right now yeah I hate to be the boring one in all of this but it has to do with more than just football right this they that was an athletic department trying to cash in on more than just well yeah we need to leave the Pac-12 because

Lincoln Riley uh he can he can go win in the Big Ten. That had nothing to do, that was, they saw a seven, they saw a double of their payday in the Big Ten conference and were like, we're stupid if we pass up 70 million per season as opposed to 30 million. I would do 10 times over what USC and UCLA did. Yeah, nothing like getting more money so that you can pay for those long

charter flights to lose to Minnesota and Maryland that's just what college athletics are all about is is Lincoln getting fired it seems like the hottest seat in fact I did that it's buyout is 88 million uh no like I I as crazy as this sounds I I do still think he can write the ship but I saw I think it was Matt liner it might have been a different past USC quarterback, maybe Max Brown is say that he went to USC. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So they well, I got the liner part. I was just double checking. I don't know why that thought popped in my head. But anyway, the point that was made was the 2022 season was the worst thing

that could have happened to USC. And it absolutely was. Because they went from four and eight. Yeah, that was Max Brown, they went from four and eight to 11. And one. And if they beat Utah in the Pac 12 title game, they were going to make the playoff. And then they lost that game, they lost the Cotton Bowl. And it's been a spiral from there. But if they hadn't had that season, the expectations wouldn't be there. But the expectations are there. And I think it didn't really allow

people to understand this is a long term rebuild to get where they need to be on both sides of the ball and so i think that the expectations combined with keeping alex grinch sent this usc program back a few years i do still think lincoln riley can get it right he's just not doing it right now awesome conversation um zach let's follow up with this uh the whole whiteout thing you guys wanted it to be the ohio state game you gotta do washington here this week uh how are people talking about this Let's follow up with this. The whole whiteout thing, you guys wanted it to be the Ohio State game. You got to do Washington here this week. Are people talking about this? Is it a big deal with the Fox new games?

So there's so many layers to this, and if we had an hour-long show, I'd be able to break it all down for you. So Fox is married to the noon kickoff spot. Well, Fox could just move it to 8 o'clock. They kind of made their own grave in this sense is that they say they are firm believers that we will put our best game at noon because we will have no other competition. And they're going to stand up by that for a total of seven years. And we're going on what year, year two, year three. So there's still four or five more years of this. So Fox can't just put, well, they don't even want the white out at nighttime.

They can't. And Penn State's not going to compromise their ideals with where they want the whiteout game to be. So that's why there was the pseudo whiteout with Illinois, because they said, okay, we know for a fact that this is a nighttime kickoff. We don't even know if Washington's going to be a nighttime game. It might be a three 30 game. We don't know for that. For a fact, it ends up being an eight o'clock game on Peacock exclusively. So add insult to injury on top of all that. So Penn State's kind of juggling all these things that are completely out of their control. Obviously, Ohio State or the biggest opponent on the schedule is most ideal. I think next year, depending on who gets a hold of the fantasy TV football draft there.

But Oregon would ideally be the whiteout game for next season. But I guarantee you Fox is going to somehow have the first four picks because NBC and CBS like to trade all of these. They all swap around and somehow Fox ends up with the first three of the four selections in their annual TV draft. So I wouldn't be surprised here. But that's every there's so many factors here at play and i hopefully summed it all up now roman you guys struggle woefully on the road and now you got a whiteout situation you're looking forward to the game craig what what what are we doing here first of all you know you come in here and it's oh you know the whiteout should be ohio state it's

oh it's washington come on man this this team was in the national championship in January yeah that's not the same national championship team don't you dare make that argument I was getting there I was I was kidding don't say I don't know where are you where are you getting there yeah I was you know everyone's just you know I mean other than the head coach the quarterback four offensive linemen three three receivers, a tight end, three defensive linemen, two linebackers, two linebackers, four defensive backs. Same team. It's the same team. Same team.

Offensive linemen. It is the same name. Oh, that's right. It is the same program. Washington. That's true. Yeah, that is true. That is all very true.

But outside of that whole factor and all of this, I'm excited about what this game is going to be. But also, Zach, don't sleep on those 2029 first-round picks and all these trades that are coming back and going around here. But the thing that with Washington on the road, I'm curious to see what it's going to be like with a somewhat normal kickoff time. The loss at Lumen Field to Washington State in the Apple Cup was disgusting for a number of reasons, including 16 penalties.

But on top of that, Washington has had to play a Friday night game at Rutgers and then two 9 a.m. games at Indiana and at Iowa. So I'm not making excuses. None of these things are excuses, but I'm personally curious what it's going to look like with a little bit more normal travel schedule. Now, Washington is still two touchdown underdogs. I get that. Zach and I did a fantastic crossover the other day. We got to talk about all those things. But at the same point, I think that that's something

that could be a little bit of a factor. We'll see. The offensive line still has some question marks. They switched a couple of pieces around, looked a little bit better against a bad USC pass rush. I'll be the first person to admit that. But I'm curious to see if that was a little bit more of a factor in something that, you know,

we talk about the multiple time zone factor of the season. I don't know. Maybe it's a little bit more than people are letting on. But again, none of those things are excuses. I just think that those are factors. Can I just say one final thing? Penn State, whiteout, Oregon uniforms. That's a combination I think I can get behind.

That's pretty cool. You lost me at Oregon uniforms. No, hey, wear those white ones you wore to Michigan and ruin the whiteout. It'll be like a home game for you. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure the fans will get confused over there all right we'll have a final word on this weekend we'll get some thoughts on indiana versus michigan we don't have jacob from indiana or matt from michigan state to talk about that

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whiteout with Penn State and Washington. Also interested in Indiana undefeated. If they beat Michigan, and it's at Bloomington this weekend, they're going to go into the Ohio State game in a couple weeks after a bye and take on Ohio State at 10-0. Michigan or Indiana is a 14-point favorite in this game. Guys, based on what we saw, Curtis Rourke came back last week with the broken thumb and the glove and 47 unanswered points by the Hoosiers.

Yeah, they haven't beat any ranked teams, but they're blowing people out. I think Michigan's in trouble this weekend. What do you guys think? Spencer? Why in the world is Indiana ranked behind Penn State in any poll ranking anything anywhere? I literally cannot figure it out. Here's the statistical evidence to prove the bias against that red IU logo that everybody in college football is seeing.

Indiana through nine games this year is beating their opponents by an average of about 33 points per game, 32.9 to be exact. Michigan last year through nine games was beating their opponents by 34 points per game. They were ranked third, Michigan was, and Indiana is in the eight range. And I think it's laughably absurd. You got to get past preseason expectations and anti-brand bias. This is just a really good Indiana team. Until they play a game that shows me that they're capable of playing down to the level of their opponent. I mean, their closest game was a 14-point win against Washington, and they did that with a backup quarterback. So I think that Kurt Cignetti has just got the boys rolling. I think that Kurt Cignetti has just got the boys rolling,

and I'm not a smoker myself, but I will certainly smoke Kurt Cigs all week long. I'm a huge fan. I love this guy. Yeah, I do too. Yeah, they fell behind 10-0 at Michigan State. It's the first time they trailed all year, and then they scored the 47 unanswered.

Zach, what are your thoughts? Indiana brand bias, and do you agree with what Spencer said, Penn State versus Indiana on the pecking order. I mean, I kind of expected Indiana to be ranked above Penn State. So the I mean, we're kind of also seeing the college football playoff committee rankings come out in real time in Penn State is sixth and Indiana's eighth. I can see an argument for Indiana to be seventh and eighth. So you're really kind of splitting hairs back and forth. Remember, Penn State did not lose to somebody they weren't supposed to. They lost to one of the top four teams in the country. And Ohio State only lost by one point to Oregon. So is this really that, oh, well, they, you know, they did it.

Penn State took care of business everywhere just like Indiana has. That's the only thing you can do is win. You've beaten the teams that are on your schedule. If we're looking at this Indiana-Michigan game, I personally think two touchdowns is too many. I still think of Michigan's defense as one of the better ones in all the country, top 10 in terms of talent. They just don't have an offense that can help them out. If they can get a little bit creative, if they go into this trying to play spoiler, let's see how good of a coach Sharonaron moore actually is i i like maybe michigan to cover that spread but indiana still gets the win at home roman you've seen both michigan and uh and indiana your thoughts on that matchup

yeah i'm i'm really curious to see what this match is gonna look like uh number one thing for me though is is will johnson gonna play in this game where we haven't seen him in a while that's that's been one of the bigger things for this mich defense where, you know, I got to watch him up here at Washington. He did not look like he was a hundred percent healthy in that game. And I feel like that might've been the last time he played. So that's, that's something I'm going to monitor really closely. Obviously this Michigan defensive line is still really talented. Stewart, Graham, Grant, like there's still a whole bunch of really good players there, but this Indiana offensive line is no slaps.

They've been really good all season long. I've been really impressed with what they've been able to do in the run and the pass game. So that's something I'm watching. Zach, I don't know if two touchdowns is too much in this game, and I think the one reason for that is Michigan's porous offense. There's just nothing. That would be the reason.

So I have a couple of thoughts so first of all on michigan's defensive line they're absolutely as advertised and when josiah stewart is in there i'm pretty sure they've got three first round capable picks just going going across the board and mason graham is just an absolute absolute force this is going to be a really good test not as much for the indiana offensive line, which it certainly is, as it is for Curtis Rourke. If you watch Oregon's game against Michigan last week, and I talked about this on Locked on Ducks, I think one big reason Oregon's offense had success was Dylan Gabriel. Not just the way that he made plays in big spots, and Oregon was 10-15

on third down, but his ability to evade the rush, manipulate the pocket, get Oregon in the right protections is the, perhaps the biggest reason why Oregon did not allow a sack against Michigan last week. So Curtis Rourke has to be solid. He's got to know where the blitzes are coming from, where his hots are, and he has to do all of those little details well, if they're going to continue having success. Because Oregon's offensive line got pushed around more than it has even against Ohio State all season long against Michigan. But there were still no sacks allowed, and Oregon still ran it well. Why?

Because Dylan Gabriel did a lot of the stuff between the ears. Spencer, how much you beat Maryland by this weekend? All of it. All of the points. Yeah, I'd probably, I mean, no Tez Johnson, but they're at home. I don't think the defense played great last week against Michigan. Davis Warren made some good throws. He looks much, much improved from the early part of the season. Colston Loveland's really good. So I think that the Oregon defense has got a little bit of a chip after how they played last week, giving up 17 points.

It's more than I think they should have allowed. I thought they'd give up six. So I think Oregon probably is in the 40-10-ish range against Maryland. Gentlemen, enjoy the weekends. And to our audience, follow these guys, Spencer, Zach, and Roman. Roman, do you get a final word? Yeah, I got one thing. I just want to clear something up from the beginning of the show.

I got a little bit of a rant here. Spencer, we got to talk about this, this M because it's not dubs down. It's an M there is there is no more. Yeah, there's no more empty. Yeah, there's no more empty. Just cheer in college football and dubs down because I have seen what horns down does to texas fans i have never seen a fan base cry more than just doing this to a texas fan i completely agree more empty than that because that's their whole thing right washington fans yeah the the dubs up it is it is

what it is but dubs down does not mean nearly the same thing and i see all these oregon fans on twitter that like to type mashington like that means something with the dubs down it's it's just what's empty i've never i've never seen when we get off i've never seen mashington but i've seen dubs down a lot i think look if you asked anyone in administration at washington hey will rogers or what do you think about Will Rogers doing this? Whether he meant it as an M or not, not the look that they would advise him to go for. But I don't think it matters, and that's the whole thing.

No, it's just a playful jab. Can you tell me that? Yeah, no, I know. But this is just more of a rant. No, I know. This is just more of a rant I've wanted to get off my chest for multiple years, and this is the perfect time to do it, because I've seen Washington fans complaining.

Why is he doing a Dubs down? He's taking a picture with Woody Marks. We played with the Mississippi State. Who cares? Like it's empty. That's that's all it is. He is doing it for his buddy at Mississippi State. I'm sorry, Craig.

I had to get that off my chest because it's frustrating to see that because nobody cares. Nobody who is actually a Washington fan thinks that Dubs down means anything. Hey, we don't apologize for anything on the squad. Good job. I'll give you this simple. Peace out, everybody. You guys do a great job. Tell the audience to listen.

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