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As always, I am one of your hosts, Andrew Wade, and I am joined here by my co-host, Zach Cohen.
It is a Thursday morning. Zach, how are you doing today, man? Good. I'm kind of getting the itch for football, but it's nice.
It's not nice. I kind of wish we had football to look forward to, but it's also nice for
giving my mind a break from all the stress and filled Iowa football weeks. Absolutely, man.
And we have some actually some pretty good games this week. I think if there was a week to not
have Iowa football, it is this week.
There's some good games on Friday and, of course, a lot of great games on Saturday.
Big Ten play is also starting, which is going to be pretty fun to watch.
We've got a really big game between Michigan and Wisconsin.
We've got some games on Friday between Utah and USC.
USC just dropped out of the top 25.
But we're going to be covering all of that on today's show. We figured, you know, without Iowa football this week, let's kind of
branch into some top 25 talk, right? Iowa's in the top 25. We obviously care about the top 25.
Being cognizant of what's going on in the top 25 will make you all aware kind of where Iowa
stands at, and you're going to not have to sit there and wonder why Iowa doesn't or does move
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hey dude let's jump into it though a lot of stuff to cover the top 25 we haven't done this yet it's
kind of a nice opportunity to do it without iowa football this week and I said, there's a lot of stuff going on in the top 25,
and it's easy just to focus on the Iowa Hawkeyes.
But there's a lot of stuff that we want to make sure we are covering
because what happens within the top 25 does have a big impact on Iowa.
And I know I've seen a lot of fans kind of get upset.
Why is Iowa barely moving up?
Since we started in the poll, we've only moved up, I believe, two spots.
And I'm not upset about it
there's a lot of time also the AP poll really doesn't actually matter it gives you a nice like
idea of where the college ball playoff rankings are going to come in at but at the end of the day
the AP poll doesn't have weight on it it does give you kind of like again a sense of where things are
at in terms of the AP top 25 though are there any teams that you feel like really don't belong in the top 25 right now
Zach oh you're opening up some floodgates um my first team that I don't like is going to be
Arizona State um because they played no one the first week they played they played Tulane and
they look terrible second week they played uh Sacramento state or something they won by like 12 they don't look
good i mean to be honest with you i don't i think that the ap poll is kind of taking arizona beating
michigan state as arizona state being good as opposed to i just think that i don't know i i
have a hot take and i think i just i really don't like michigan state i think that they're not a
good football team.
It's kind of in the sense where I actually watched that game and their
defense. Yeah, it looks good. Right. Like kind of like the bears,
but the offense is not really working right now.
The work he looks terrible.
He's supposed to be a senior quarterback supposed to have all this
experience kind of like a Nathan Stanley type, but he looks terrible.
He can't even move the ball past 10 or 15 yards.
So, I mean, shout out to Arizona for going on the road and winning.
But I don't think – I think, I mean, yeah, you can give them some votes,
but I just don't think that Arizona State should be in the top 25.
And also, just as a part of that, man, Michigan State just stinks.
I really thought they were going to make an impact.
Them and Penn State were going to make a push for the Big Ten East with Ohio State
and Michigan. But man, I don't know about you, but they just really look disappointing.
Yeah, man. I don't like Michigan State. I just don't like the offense.
Obviously, I don't think Arizona State beating Michigan State, even if it was in East Lansing,
is really anything to kind of hang your hat on. I will say I also don't really like Penn State.
You kind of touched on them a little bit. They're ranked 13th. I think that's a little bit too high for Penn State. I know it's a rivalry
game, but they look like crap against Pitt. Got to keep in mind too, I mean, they lost a big time
player in Trace McSorley. They lost Miles Sanders. So far they've been- And Tommy Stevens, who was
the protege. Yeah. I mean, so I just, I'm not a big fan of Penn State at this point at 13. I would
like to see them do a little more in their schedule. I'm also just, like you said so I'm not a big fan of Penn State at this point at 13. I would like to see them do a little more in their schedule.
I'm also just, like you said, I'm not a big fan of Arizona State.
I'm also not a big fan of UCF.
I understand UCF is kind of one of those teams where you love to hate them
and hate to love them.
They're lovable losers in the sense that they're not a power five school.
You want to see them kind of disrupt the system.
But I just don't like what they beat Stanford I don't think Stanford's that
good of a team just because you beat them doesn't mean you're a good team they beat them 45 to 27
Stanford beat Northwestern I don't think Northwestern's that good of a team this year
and I think Stanford has probably one of their worst teams in the last 10 years so beating
Stanford isn't something to hang your hat on.
Yeah, they're just not that good this year.
And I don't think UCF deserves to be 15 at this point.
I think that's a little bit too high for them.
Man, UCF is tough just because, I mean,
I think they legitimized me after they beat Auburn
in like the Peach Bowl or something a year or two ago.
I think that their offense is really good.
I don't know really a lot about their defense,
but they are kind of a – they're basically a –
they should be like in the Big 12.
They're a Big 12-type team.
They spread the ball out.
They spread you out.
They score.
They score fast.
They have a lot of explosive plays. They have a lot of they're good and i think they're doing good also they
have wimbush who transferred from notre dame and they have another guy as well you can't really
throw the ball with crap though to be honest yeah but the thing is is they're doing this good i think
they're doing well and they don't even have mackenzie milton who is arguably a hot take he
could be a heisman candidate.
I don't care who they play.
That kid is really good.
He has a great deep ball.
He's great poise.
And I don't know, that dude puts up video game stats.
But so I think UCF, I think it's the case where,
are they going to make the college football playoff?
No.
Do I think they should be ranked?
Yes.
I mean, I don't know if they're going to crack the top 10. I mean, they may just off of, you know, being undefeated.
But, I mean, I don't see any harm or foul with them being in there.
I think they're a good team.
I think they're putting up numbers.
I mean, they impress me more than Penn State, Michigan State,
a lot of those teams that are up there right now, Arizona State and stuff.
So, I mean, I give them credit.
I know they're not in a great division, but I still give credit where credit's due.
And so that's kind of my take on that.
All right.
So you like UCF a little more.
I will say Mackenzie Milton is a great player.
If he can return back from the leg injury, I would be excited to see him.
And you're absolutely right.
He could be one of those group of five Heisman candidates if he returns well.
We have a lot more to cover with the Top 25, though.
We're going to take a quick break and let you listen to a few messages
from our sponsors and jump right back into it.
We're back with segment number two.
And like I said, this whole week is going to be kind of a new fluid process
with delivering the podcast to you all.
We're just going to be talking about the AP Top 25 and keep continuing that discussion.
One of the things I wanted to talk about is some of the teams that are actually receiving
votes, which I thought was really interesting.
One in particular stood out to me, and that was Minnesota.
How in the hell does Minnesota get a single freaking vote?
They look garbage.
And I just, I can't imagine, I don't know who would actually vote for Minnesota at this point.
They have done nothing to impress me.
In fact, they look really weak, and they could be 0-3 at this point.
And I'm just a little bit embarrassed that Minnesota is included
as one of the teams receiving votes in the AP Top 25.
Yeah, I mean, it's just they're – I mean, from a view,
from a bird's eye view, okay, Minnesota, they're supposed to be good this year, P.J. Fleck. They're 3-0, from a view, from a bird's eye view, okay, Minnesota,
they're supposed to be good this year, P.J. Fleck.
They're 3-0, so that looks good.
And they're in the big time, so they're obviously no slouch.
They're a power five team.
So I think that there was some poor soul out there who was like,
wow, a 3-0 Minnesota.
I think that they probably just got a vote just because by, like, principle,
if you're 3-0, you should probably at least get a vote by now.
But they look terrible.
And I actually heard an interesting point.
I was listening to actually another podcast, and they said,
could P.J. Fleck be the only 3-0 coach on the hot seat?
And I think it was an interesting conversation,
but obviously you can't – he's 3-0.
It's the best you can do.
You obviously can't do any better and no it's the best you can do you obviously
can't do any better than three no at this moment so but i i don't like minnesota i think they're
going to go into the big 10 and i think they're gonna get their ass kicked i just don't think
they have the explosive playmakers i don't know what it is their defense doesn't look good they
i mean they're trying they're supposed to be able to run the ball and they're not really doing that
effectively they have ty johnson who as I wrote about on Dear Old Gold,
is actually one of the best, probably, receivers in the country.
Oh, he's a beast, dude.
Can you imagine if he actually had a quarterback?
Yeah, I mean, Annex said getting hurt in the beginning of the year,
their sophomore phenom or junior, whatever he was,
he's actually pretty good, and losing him sucks.
But, I mean, yeah, Minnesota sucks.
I don't know how they got a vote.
him sucks but um i mean yeah minnesota sucks i i don't know how they got a vote um i'm actually surprised that um kansas state um actually has 91 votes and so they're kind of the next team in
and man i don't know how tcu and arizona state get in before kansas state kansas state upsets
mississippi state that was incredible i love that um especially after uh you know a lot of iowa fans have a b from
mississippi state and uh brandon walker i think it's funny i love the the going back and forth
but so i'm sure a lot of hawkeye fans are happy to see that um one take i have is that uh i think
michigan's a little too high uh i know that when you have a bye week, you really aren't supposed to move, but I don't know.
I mean, 11, I think Michigan really has a legit chance of going to Madison next week and losing.
I really do. Their defense does not look good at all. Shea Patterson looks like a choke artist,
looks like B-Rabbit in eight mile, looks terrible. I just think that no one can stop Jonathan Taylor, another guy I wrote about.
That guy needs to be one of the top five going to New York for the Heisman ceremony.
That guy is unbelievable.
He's a generational running back.
I know probably a lot of people aren't paying attention to him
because they played a lot of lesser teams, but that guy is unbelievable.
He's going to graduate, and then you're going to look back and be like,
wow, that was actual greatness. Some type of Christian McCaffrey-esque type college career. He's incredible. So I think that Wisconsin can really go in there and shock the world. And I do agree. I don't know how Penn State's 13. I mean, that pick game was ugly. ugly and like it and the funny thing is before that game that uh pat narduzzi was uh saying that
james franklin basically they're mad there was a last rivalry game and james franklin and penn
state kind of saying that uh that pit was kind of like the annoying little brother who they just
were tired of playing they're tired of beating up on it didn't really make sense for anyone
um they didn't really benefit from beating pit and they go in there and almost lose. I mean, Arduzzi at the end of the game kind of made a really stupid decision. They didn't go for a
touchdown. They tried to kick a field goal. So that game, they could have easily lost for sure.
And speaking of that, Penn State, like I just said, spoke out, wants to end the rivalry with
Pitt because they don't see much of a benefit. I have a really hot take I've been seeing.
because they don't see much of a benefit.
I have a really hot take I've been seeing.
Could you ever see potentially, or if you had the decision,
would you end the CyHawk game just for a little?
Would you put it on a hiatus?
And before you give your answer, I've heard the explanation why.
It's because a lot of people think that Iowa is damned if we beat Iowa State.
Obviously, we didn't move up.
It was a great game, college game day, right? You think if you go on the road at college game day and you beat the team, you'll move up.
No, we stayed basically the same. I think we moved up one spot. And then we're also damned if we
don't. If we don't beat them, I guarantee you we probably drop out of the top 25. So, I mean,
in your opinion, do you really think this game benefits us or is it just something to keep the
people of Iowa happy? Yeah, man, a lot to unpack there. First, I think with the Iowa state game,
I think that it makes sense to keep the game.
I think the hot take that we didn't move up because we beat Iowa state is not
really taking into consideration the top 25 in general.
And the fact that I believe every team in the top 17 won last week except for
Michigan state. So and they were, I believe 18.
So to not understand why we didn't move up is pretty easy.
We didn't do anything that much more impressive than the teams that are already up there.
Did we do something that made someone think, wow, we deserve to be higher than the teams
that haven't lost either?
So I think the fact that we didn't move up is less about the Iowa State team and what
the poll voters think of that than it is about the teams that are currently in front of Iowa. I mean, Iowa State's getting
seven votes in the AP poll. So obviously they're getting a little love there. Also, I just want to
quickly call out the Minnesota Zach Enix, I think he is a sophomore, but he actually didn't really
play as much last year. He kind of split time. So I think honestly, even with him, they would
still probably suck on offense
and then and they're just a they're huge disappointment man pj flat coming in there i
i'm sorry i i hate minnesota so i'm gonna take what i can get from this but uh pj flat coming
in bringing the row the boat culture dude there are tons of podcasts and channels and articles
people at minnesota like they went i think for the big
town west it was like wisconsin and then the tie for second was minnesota and nebraska
wow what in three weeks into the season and that already kind of looks like a shit show
um like i don't minnesota's not good i mean they're three and oh but i think that they could
i think minnesota's gonna do like a reverse northwestern remember last year on Northwestern lost a lot of the out of conference games.
I want like perfect and big 10 play.
I think Minnesota is going to do good.
And then once they go into the big 10 play,
I think they're just going to craft the bad.
I don't think it's going to look good.
And I do understand pivoting on that to the Iowa state point.
I get that the top 17 teams in front of it played well.
I think you said a Michigan State loss.
But do you think it's kind of unfair that a loss to Iowa State
could have hurt us more than a win?
Let's say we beat them by 20, or let's say we lose them by three.
Do you see us going down more if we're losing as opposed to us winning by 20?
Well, I mean, like I said, I think if you don't understand,
there are 18 teams in front of Iowa, 17 teams won or didn't play.
Let's just say in a vacuum, though, like a complete vacuum.
Do you think losing to Iowa State hurts us more than beating them?
I don't think it changes either way.
I think Iowa State would have popped up in the top 25.
I think Iowa would have dropped down probably two or three spots.
But I think the AP voters do respect Iowa state this year.
I know other years that, you know, it isn't as great of a game, but honestly,
yeah. I mean, honestly though, like we have nine conference games a year,
playing another team,
like an SEC team just doesn't make sense for the Iowa Hawkeyes.
It isn't going to give them that much benefit out. If they go,
if they win 10 or 11 games, they're going to be in the top 10.
So I'm a big proponent of keeping the Iowa-Iowa State game.
I think it's good for the state.
It's a little bit annoying on Twitter,
but I can't imagine getting rid of that game.
One other team I wanted to call out, though,
before we head to a quick break is Florida.
They are 3-0, but they just lost Felipe Franks
to a season-ending injury.
I don't really like Florida in general.
Florida typically gets popped up a little higher, just like Notre Dame,
just because of their name.
But I do think Florida is a team to watch out to drop later in the season.
I could see them losing four or maybe even five games this year
and being at the bottom of the top 25 or even out of it entirely.
So just a couple takes on that.
We're going to jump into some of the games coming up on segment number three.
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All right, man, we are back to cover the rest of the Top 25.
There's some great games coming up this weekend that we want to make sure we dive into.
The first one is on Friday.
Number 10, Utah is playing USC.
USC just dropped out of the Top 25 poll, but this is a Friday night game.
There's not a lot of football on Friday night except for Air Force versus Boise State.
So we have two ranked teams playing.
I'm really excited to watch the Utah versus USC game.
It's actually kind of a decent time.
It's not one of those 11 p.m. games.
It's 8 p.m. Central, so that'll be a lot of fun.
Are you going to be watching any football on Friday night?
Yeah, I think that that USC-Utah game is going to be interesting.
Everyone likes Utah.
A lot of people are picking them to win the Pac-12.
They kind of come up over Washington and Oregon.
I think they're actually a really good team.
I think that their top ten, obviously, they're getting a lot of national recognition.
They have a really good running back and quarterback.
USC is kind of a weird team because not a lot of people have a ton of expectations for them.
So that whole situation, they also have that backup quarterback in, and Utah also has a good defense.
So that's going to be an interesting game.
I mean, obviously, Utah needs to win that game if they want to keep the national attention,
they want to stay alive in the Pac-12.
Besides that, Air Force and Boise State could actually be interesting. As you
saw last week, Air Force beat Colorado. I know Colorado is that good. It sucks because I really
do like Colorado. I like Montez. I like the running back. What's his name? Starts with an F.
And then I like the receiver, Chenault. But dude, I don't know if it's their defense. I don't know
what it is, but something – they're such a –
they're kind of like a Purdue where they're going to go like 6-6
or they're going to go like 7-5.
And, like, you know, they'll have some decent wins,
and you'll be like, wow, they're good.
And then they'll just crap the bed like they did last week.
So I think the Air Force game could be interesting.
Obviously, I'm not going to be staying up to watch that.
But besides that, I'm kind of – Saturday has an interesting slate of games.
I'm actually interested to see – ISU is playing Louisiana Monroe.
I think ISU is obviously pissed off the last game what happened.
But the funny storyline for that game is you see what Matt Campbell said on Twitter.
He said that Louisiana Monroe is going to have the most athletic skill players
they've played so far this year.
Yeah, it's a little bit of a ridiculous take.
Yeah, I don't know if that was kind of throwing shade at Iowa or not,
but that's funny.
I mean, I think Iowa State probably should beat them by a fair amount,
but I hope they lose just because it's State.
Michigan State, Northwestern, I think that game is going to be like 10-7.
I think it's going to be the grossest game of the week.
Not looking forward to 7. I think it's going to be the grossest game of the week. Not looking forward to that. But some games I am looking forward to is, I'm going to say
UCF and Pitt's interesting, just because Pitt kind of showed their defense, squeezed down in
Penn State, and Penn State was putting up 70 points. And then also UCF, who you hate, you
despise them. See if they can get a decent win against another power fight team. But the game of the week, I mean, obviously it's going to be Michigan, Wisconsin.
For all those Hawk fans out there, I think Wisconsin's going to win,
but obviously we're pulling from Michigan just because, obviously,
we want to be ahead in the Big Ten West.
So, you know, that kind of has that aspect to it but uh is there any other
games out there that you're kind of have your eye on this week with our bi-week happening yeah man
i think uh number 12 texas versus oklahoma state um it'll be interesting to see how oklahoma state
is yeah i don't think texas is as good at number 12 um i also do you like elinger um i think he's
a solid quarterback i just don't think texas's is very good. They got lit up by LSU.
I know Joe Burrows had a pretty good season so far,
but I just don't think Texas' defense is as good as advertised.
What does a Big 12 team, what do you expect?
Yeah, I mean, their defense is supposed to be better than that.
I mean, they were wearing DBU shirts, and they got torched.
I also think No. 7 Notre Dame versus No. 3 Georgia is a game
that has a lot of implications for the Hawks um just because you say that because Notre Dame if they go undefeated they are
automatically in the you know the college football playoff no doubt about it um Georgia if they are
a one loss team and they beat in Alabama in the SEC championship they're also in the playoffs so
we're looking at if Notre Dame wins this game, they beat Georgia. Georgia loses only that game. They beat Alabama in the SEC championship. We could look at Alabama, Georgia,
Notre Dame, three of the four CFB teams right there. That's how a team like Ohio State gets
left out last year. Or if an Iowa goes undefeated or goes 11-1 and wins the Big Ten championship to
be 12-1, it makes it really difficult to pick between that school and between like an Oklahoma
as well.
So that's actually a game that I'm really interested in.
I'm not really sure at this point who I'd be rooting for.
I think Georgia, just because if Notre Dame, as an independent,
they're not going to have a championship game.
If they go undefeated, they're good to go.
For example, let's say, you know, I'm not going to jump the gun, knock on wood or whatever, but if Iowa goes to the Big Ten Championship
and obviously if they're going to make the college football playoff,
and we're just talking hypotheticals out there, guys.
If they were to make the college football playoffs,
they were going to beat an Ohio State team or like a Michigan-type team,
which I think at the end of the day, if they're on the same level as Notre Dame,
would put Iowa in just because, like you said,
if Notre Dame has no conference game and we can beat Justin Fields,
that's going to catapult us.
Wait, you think all things even, an Iowa team jumps a Notre Dame team?
Let's say we go 11-1 and we win the Big Ten Championship.
I think an 11-1 Iowa team beating Ohio state and the big 10 championship
over at 11 and one Notre Dame team. I think we jumped them.
I think, what do you think?
I don't think so. I think Notre Dame has way too much clout,
no matter what happens.
Even after shitting the bed last time, you think that they still really,
I mean, dude, they're ranked seventh in the nation right now um it's every single year they're top 10 independent teams
though i just hate it there's yeah i mean i just it's just kind of the nature of the beast which
is why i'm just not really sure who i want there i maybe even if it's maybe even it's you know
georgia beating notre dame and notre dame losing another game down the line a tendency
yeah two lost notre dame will be there so yeah yeah i just think all things even notre dame beats out iowa the
other game i'm interested in is auburn versus texas a&m um again the sec thing kind of going on
the less sec teams that are up in that top echelon um is going to be better for iowa also texas a&m
if they lose um iowa is likely to i Iowa is likely to... I bet they drop to
24, 25.
They're 2-2, but they're...
They'll be out of the college football playoffs.
I'm just talking about the rankings right now.
I think if they go 2-2, they're going to be out on the
top 25, but Iowa's going to jump up over them.
Like you said, the Pitt versus UCF game.
If UCF loses, that's an opportunity for Iowa to
rise as well. A couple good games
obviously coming up in the AP Top 25.
Any last thoughts before we close out the show today?
Yeah, I have a question.
Let's say Michigan beats Wisconsin, right?
Michigan's 11, Wisconsin's 13.
Does Wisconsin stay in front of us or do they drop below us?
I think they stay in front of us.
I don't think they drop lower than – unless it's a blowout.
I mean – Like last year, Wisconsin blew out Michigan, didn't they? in front of us. I don't think they drop lower than unless it's a blowout. They, I mean,
Yeah.
Like last year, Wisconsin blew out Michigan, didn't they?
Or Michigan blew out Wisconsin, right?
Um, I mean, a lot of people, Wisconsin wasn't a very good team last year.
So do you think they're, do you think they're contender this year?
Do you think it's just a product of the teams they played?
What's your opinions on Wisconsin?
Um, I think they haven't played any teams worth a dang at this point.
Um, they haven't played any power five schools this year yet point. They haven't played any Power 5 schools this year yet,
so we can't really toot their horn.
I haven't watched a ton of Wisconsin Badgers football,
but I will say I did watch a lot last year.
I wasn't impressed with Jack Cohn.
I've never been impressed.
No, yeah, they have Graham Mertz, who's supposed to be the stud,
and I think they're awaiting to be able to have an opportunity
to put Graham Mertz in, but obviously Wisconsin's 2-0,
and I think isn't the stat, isn't there like 115 or 110 to zero, right? I think that's
their like point differential. So I do, even from Wisconsin fans, I don't think they like Jack Cohn,
but they don't, but I do think if, if Michigan beats Wisconsin and Cohn doesn't look good,
do you think they pull him for Mertz? No, I mean, I think he pretty much firmly has the job. I think
they even talked about red shirting Mertz so I don't yeah I just I think
Cone's probably stuck there unless he just really craps the bed but I don't believe Minnesota or
believe in Wisconsin I'll be interested to see the Wisconsin versus Michigan game I don't think
it's going to tell us a lot about either team unless one of the teams really either craps bed
or plays really well I think it might actually be a pretty evenly matched game though,
especially being in Madison.
The Wisconsin fans are going to be up and ready for it.
So yeah,
agreed.
Awesome.
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