Locked On Hawkeyes - Daily Podcast On Iowa Hawkeyes Football & Basketball - BREAKING: Sherrone Moore FIRED from Michigan, DETAINED by Police. Kalen DeBoer TOP Target?

Episode Date: December 11, 2025

Discussing the latest in as Michigan needs a new head coach after Sherrone Moore was fired for an inappropriate relationship with a staffer. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Breaking news in Ann Arbor. Sharon Moore is fired for an inappropriate relationship, and this is the first ever live Locked-on Big Ten Squad. You're talking ball with the Big Ten Squad, sponsored by game time. From USC to Ohio State, from Michigan to Oregon, from Nebraska to Washington, it's the local experts of the Locked-on Podcast Network, bringing you scoops, breakdowns, and the most comprehensive preview of the upcoming Big Ten weekend.

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We felt this was the best opportunity to do a live squad show because what on earth? This has apparently been in the works for several weeks. It is official. It is final. He has been fired from Michigan. Sherrodmore. He's been reportedly detained by the police as well. Jay, I'll let you go first, just for the fun of it.

What was going through your head when you read all of this news for the first time? time. So the inappropriate relationship was the first thing that I was trying to figure out, well, I was trying to figure out why. What did he do to get fired? It wasn't something on the field because you improved from last year's record to this year's record. I know you lost to Michigan. I mean, excuse me, you lost Ohio State, but like I didn't think this year's on-field product was one that was worthy to fire a coach. So I'm trying to figure out what was going on. I read a little bit more, read about this relationship that got him out of town. But I think it was a little bit deeper because the donor stopped giving money.

And when the money stopped flowing in or it's falling in a little bit slower, then the investigation is going to go a little bit faster. We all know in college football. Investigations don't normally go that fast. They don't normally go at the pace that we would like them to. This was going on since we believe mid-November, then all of a sudden he's up out of town. It's not good for Michigan's program because I don't think the culture there is where it needs to be to begin with.

And now you don't have a head coach going to the bowl game. You just signed a recruiting class. What's going to happen with that? I don't know. The portal's opening up in January. The coaching carousel is not complete now, but it's not where you want it to be. If you're Michigan, I mean, even, sorry, say, go. Penn State took two months to find a head coach.

And they've done one right now. You know what? I think Penn State's having a great day because they're looking around going, well, we don't have the worst coaching situation in the country. Thank you, Michigan. Woo! Is that right, Saco? Out of the headlines now, you are.

Yeah, yeah, you can't, you can't knock on Penn State because they made a good hire. Matt Campbell's a good head coach. And I don't know who Michigan is going to get reportedly. Some folks have hinted that Kailen Dabor might be. Oh, that's not the Kailen Dabor rumors. I'm used to those. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Saco's our resident Kailen Dabor rumor expert that hasn't actually had him be the head coach. Sorry, Roman.

I was going to say, hold on a second. Yeah, say go, why don't you go for it, go for it? Yeah, I, I'm like, this is, I'm, I'm, I'm ready for this moment. I, the, but the Kalin-de-Bore rumors were immediately swirling, right? I think he's the, in terms of those market odds and everything, he's the instant favorite, because of all the presumed animosity or unhappiness between DeBore and his family. So, Michigan, I mean, would benefit. from hiring Kaelin DeVore here.

I think that's somebody that would do very well. But over in the Penn State stratosphere, the social media reaction generally was, well, thank goodness we have a head coach. At least we don't have the worst situation. But then there's also the other side of it. What is Matt Campbell thinking? Matt Campbell should have just waited a couple more days

and he ended up settling for Penn State when he could have had Michigan. And I said, the guy turned down the Detroit Lions and an eight-year deal from an eight-year, your offer from the lines. I don't think he would want the Michigan job if I'm being honest. Roman, what was the first thing that went through your head when you read Sharon Moore fired? I was driving back from a round of golf, shocking I know. And all of a sudden on car play, I see a group text with my brother and a buddy and we usually talk about sports. They're sending

off like a bunch of texts in a row. And I'm thinking like, what is going? What is going? I finally get home and see that he's fired my first thought is they were supposed to lose to ohio state what like it can't hurt that bad you just got him four years in a row that can't be it what did you think so i actually was also in the car and i i got a text from a good friend of mine who was somewhat connected in the college football world and i did because it just somebody sent me the the post and so it just on my apple car play just read it just oh you know a twitter post or whatever and then oh it sounds like it's going to be caylin i was like what what is this and so I finally get stopped and I looked down to my phone I said oh oh this is what's going on

so there's just there's so much insanity going on with all of this and uh take oh no offense but as another you know caylin debor rumor expert a couple of years ago before he did wind up leaving for the Alabama job in a lot of Washington circles the biggest concern was that he was going to wind up at Michigan after Jim Harbaugh left for the L.A. Chargers that was so I'm a rookie in all of this. I don't even understand the game. No, you get acquitted very quickly, brother. Don't you worry about that. But this is one of the things

that has been circulating around just in Washington circles for a while as it pertains to Cayland aboard of Michigan. And then of course, the second choice, because everything is just a disaster, is Jedfish, where that's not necessarily shocking. This isn't even the first time this week. We at Washington have seen,

oh, hey, look, that coach has just knows somebody or has been there before because Ryan Walters was rumored to be looking at Tennessee. And then, of course, it looks like they're going with Jim Knowles. But this is one of those things where as I look at this at this point in time, I think that Kailin DeBore is far and away the favorite. And everything else from there, like we'll see what happens.

I feel like as it pertains to Jed being rumored to be interested in the Florida job as well. If Florida wasn't necessarily super interested in what he had to offer, I don't feel like Michigan is going to be. But obviously after this, just everything we've seen today, who knows what's going on in the world of college football anymore. Yeah, the bottom line here is that every coach that Seiko has ever covered or discussed or mentioned on his show is going to have his name pop up in the coaching care. So you know who I saw on a list of potential Michigan head coaches Seiko at ESPN, Mani Diaz, man. Good record at the Power 4.

Just won the ACC. He could bring Darry and Mensa with him. Underwood bolts. Hey, you never know. You were looping back to Kurt Signetti right there. I'm not going to lie. Oh, no, no, no. We all know, we all know that Kurtzign. We all know that Kurtziknit. Yeah, there you go. That's good. That's good. So you may hop in here. Yeah, my thoughts were unfortunate event, right? And we don't know the details here as of this live show. And it's clearly not pretty. A, you got fired for cause. Right. So you will not see a single penny if you are Sharon Moore. And then we just learned before going live that, yeah, he was detained by police. I mean, it's going to get ugly here and hope that all parties involved are okay and that

everything works out the way that it needs to. But my thought here is, man, this is a very abrupt end to just a weird situation in general, I thought, with Sharon Moore at Michigan. I mean, he took over for a program that was caught in a cheating scandal. He then was suspended several games for said scandal. and now he's fired for whatever situation this might be. I mean, it just never made sense to me from the beginning for him to be the head coach. And he walked into a weird situation being around the program.

And I don't know. And so it's over now, obviously. And I don't know where Michigan goes from here. But, man, that's a job that if I'm from the outside looking in, I just don't know as big as the Michigan brand is, as great as the fans are, as great as the big 10 is. I don't know if I touch it, to be quite honest with you, because there are some... Listen to the early confidence from the Indiana guy.

Wins the Big Ten once, and suddenly Michigan's a second-rate job. Who else is going to Ann Arbor? That's not what I meant? Come on. You know that. It's because of all the stuff they're dealing with here. Do you want to walk into that? I don't.

I don't want to walk into that. That's a disaster waiting to happen. That's true. That's what people said about Indiana football before Kurt Signetti took over. We weren't cheating, though. We weren't winning games, but we weren't cheating either. That's clear. I'd hope that you weren't cheating if you weren't winning as little as they did.

That would be the worst story for Indiana of all time of like, oh, yeah, for the past 20 years, they were paying players under the table and they were pushing the limit too far on sign stealing and whatnot, and they didn't win 10 games until Signetti got there and it was all above board. I'm almost afraid to ask, but Zach, what do you think about the situation? Yoxheimer, that is. Well, it was interesting. I was also in the car.

It seems to be a trend. I was heading to baseball practice, one of my other side gigs, and I drove past my former roommate, a Michigan fan. Shouted outside the car. Hey, Michigan just fired their coach. This was without the context, right? I didn't know the context. It just broke.

I said, Michigan fired their coach. He's like, what? They fired. I turned right. I never saw him again. This is a great story. It's still the second best car story that's been told on this show in the last week. So then I go, I'm leading baseball practice.

I get to my phone. I'm like, oh, this is so much worse than initially thought. Because I have thought, okay, this is a little crazy from it. Without context, you think that this is a little quick. And then adding to it and still the information we're learning, even as we're doing this live, it's just, it's insane. But yeah, I did happen to break the news to a Michigan fan, I think. Maybe he didn't know, but.

How about that? Actual, honest to God, reporting being done by Yoxheimer right there, by rolling down. is when they fired Sharon Moore that's how the real journalists do it when we get back we're going to talk more about a guy that at least two of two individuals in this chat know know very well is Kael and a bore really about to leave Alabama that's coming up next first this episode brought to you by our friends at aura frames the holidays are officially here which means gift hunting season is on and if you want something meaningful personal and guaranteed to get a reaction, but you know, a good type of reaction or a

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checkout terms and conditions apply. Check out ORA frames. dot com. All right, so Kaelan DeBoer, according to, I don't know, heavy speculation. Roman, do you have a high level of confidence that there is a real possibility that he could be? Because frankly, I could see it. If he loses a fourth game after losing three games last, or no, sorry, he lost four games last year at Alabama because they lost the Michigan in their bowl game.

If he's got four losses in back-to-back years, no playoff games at Alabama, I think there'd be plenty of Crimson Tide fans that would say, yeah, all right, you can hit the road because we want to find somebody better. This is not the standard. Yeah, absolutely. That's one of the things where there's been too much smoke to ignore around not just, you know, this Kalin to Michigan thing, but Kalin to Penn State, just whoever might be.

If it's Jimmy Sexton, whoever it is, just kind of putting his name out there saying, hey, what's the interest level here if this were to happen? the interest level here. It's something that we can't ignore anymore. And it's one of those things where, you know, obviously in my position as Washington and Jedfish are hopefully in some kind of agreement on an extension, I have no knowledge of that at this time. But whatever might be happening there obviously be great to keep Jedfish around. But as it pertains to Kalin DeBoer, like I just, I can't ignore this anymore. And the fact that again, like I was saying a little bit earlier, this has been rumored for a long time that this is where he wants to go. He's from South Dakota.

He's a Midwest guy at heart. Yeah, this was probably with the job that he always just grew up like, oh, yeah, you know, that's the one. That's the one. Because everyone has that kind of job. And if it is Michigan for Kalin Nabor, I'm just, I'm not going to be shocked at this point in time. Seiko, do you think Kalin Nebore would leave Alabama for, for Michigan?

And do you think it's contingent upon whether he beats Oklahoma in Norman next week? Well, that's just it. I mean, if Alabama loses to Oklahoma twice in the season, right? They get knocked out of the, opening round of the playoff. I think that's more or less the same thing as not even making it at that point. You don't get very far. You get you lose. It's an embarrassing loss to another SEC team. And if Michigan's going to give you the resources, give you the stability, you're going to get closer to home. I don't see why he doesn't take it. I really don't. So if the idea that he and

his family are truly unhappy and it's one of the worst kept secrets in Tuscaloosa, then yeah, He's probably going to look, like, that's a stable, that's a stable transition to go from Alabama to Michigan. I mean, Kaelin DeBoer couldn't hedge his career bets any better. Goins, tell me why Kurt Signetti is going to be the next head coach of the Michigan. You shut your mouth right now. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

I'm talking DeBoer in the pressure cooker that is the-Goans, this is the Big Ten squad. We don't do genuine. Okay. I have a open question. Look who's hosting. This is true. Neutral arbiter of all things college football. That's who. Sorry. Go ahead. Question about the pressure cooker job that is Alabama in comparison to the Michigan job. Do we see those as equal in terms of the fans of the win expectations of the, I mean, history, yes. But do you see what I'm asking here? You're talking about Atlanta. Saco is just talking about the move from Alabama to Michigan. I kind of agree. And weirdly enough, pressure wise. it might be a little bit easier, might not be as crazy? It's the Nick Sabin effect.

Let's let's let's let's let's let's take the, let's take a poll here amongst the six of us. Between the two jobs, who would rather be the head coach at Michigan? Currently, like as we speak? Yes, currently. Who would rather be the head coach at Michigan than Alabama? Three. So Roman, Goins, and Jay, there is no option C. You'd rather be the head coach at Alabama than Michigan.

I think from resources. I'd say so. Yeah. Okay. Jay, Jay, Jay, go, I mean, Jay, bias aside there. Go ahead and explain your reasoning there. Because the bias isn't really even the reason why. They're trying to rebuild a culture after cheating.

And they have not fixed it yet. I think the culture currently is worse than it was when Harbaugh was there while they were cheating. The players that are currently there aren't the same caliber that they were last year or when Harbaugh was there. At least Alabama has, like, really good players. Michigan doesn't. Their offense doesn't have an identity.

Yes, they have a talented quarterback. They paid a lot of money for, but no one knows what Bryce Underwood can be as a quarterback. You know what you think he can be. He isn't that. The offensive line, solid. Running backs, you have good running backs. I think the Alabama job is always going to.

be better. And it's not just a bias thing. If Michigan culture was better, there's less pressure at Michigan than there is Alabama. Even if you take away the Nick Sabin effect, Michigan's pressure isn't there. You beat Ohio State with what they have seven wins last year. They're cool with that. Seven wins at Alabama get you fired. That's why I came down on the Michigan side. I don't think there's a clear cut answer. I think it's just a matter of personal preference. The reason I went with the Michigan angle is I know the support is there, and I feel like, yes, they've been made in this specific mold that's taken them a while to rebuild, and I get that. But if you go to Michigan, I think you can make any kind of team that you want. I think you're going to have great fan support.

You're going to have reasonable expectations, but there is still going to be a standard of winning that they've adhered to for a very long time. you can perhaps be more diligent about who you send to other games to get the signs of other teams for for sure i think you can you can handle that differently but i think at michigan you have what you need to win and you know if you feel like the program is several years away i think that's just the way that sharon more is built and that's just how he how he rolls as a head coach i don't know go and tell me i'm crazy no i don't think you're crazy at all i think it really does come down to preference i mean i think it comes down to the part of the country tree that you're in in terms of living and recruiting and things like that.

I mean, all of that, we don't think about that all the time and we don't always talk about that. But when you're talking about taking a job like this, all of those factors are important. Your family, your, you know, your recruiting background, your coaching tree, all of those things feed into this. And we don't always talk about that because it's not the sexiest of topics at times. But I think that all has has a factor here. And I saw somebody just say in the comments, If this Caleb Dabour thing just happened, if he does go from Bama to Michigan, how mad is Lane Kiffin? Taking the LSU job. No, no worry.

You get bold from LSU. Go take the Bama job. And there's a chance that he would. How crazy would that be? I don't think there's a chance that he would. LSU is such a premier job. I couldn't see that. I think that'd be.

It's not like it's happened before. I mean. All right. Saco, if you were Keel and DeBoer, would you stay at Alabama? Would you go to Michigan or would you see how this playoff run goes? I mean, we don't know what we don't know right at the end of the day. If you're, I mean, if you lose to Oklahoma, like that changes a lot of things. You keep winning. Do you, are you putting off the inevitable, right? And that's what we're only going to be able to speculate about or try to guess at. Again, Caitlin DeBoer knows how much stability he has just because there's some angry message board commentators that say, I want Lane Kiffner, I want Nick Saban back because DeBoer loses a questionable game. I mean, Alabama's a great job, but Michigan comparable resources, comparable support, right?

I don't know that Alabama's miles ahead of Michigan and vice versa. I think they're right there and that they're teetering on that top five level overall in terms of objective resources. So like I said, it's a win-win either way. If you have stability at Alabama, why leave? If you don't, you can land at Michigan and get the stability you're craving and be back in a part of the country that you're just more comfortable in. It's a win-win for DeBoer either way. You're landing with a definitive top-10 job. Yoxheimer, which one would you go for? Michigan, I would think, would have a lot of patience, right? You go from a cheating scandal. You have the issues with Jim Harbaugh at the end. Then you go with what's going on with Shurray.

own more, you would think there's a lot more patience. You go from Alabama to Michigan, that resets the clock for DeBoer. It's not like, oh, he's getting this hot seat every week. Oh, you lose the wrong game. If he loses to Oklahoma, you could say this is a done deal. Even if he wins a game, it's like, well, I could reset my clock and move a little bit closer to home without dealing with this message board, whatever this nonsense, this pressure cooker that's happening in Tuscaloosa, go to Michigan and they'd appreciate you so much more than Alabama ever would. I think Yonkzheimer makes some good

Another name I'm seeing early here guys Just for again Just for fun of the conversation Kenny Dillingham's name Is being thrown around Who was being tossed for some of the other P4 openings So by the way You want to talk about

A culture guy Who walked into a disaster At Arizona State and flipped it around Boy that That'd be a home run higher We'll debate more candidates For the Michigan head coach coaching job, which, yes, if you're just joining us, is indeed available.

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So if you want to be right in the middle of the action this season, visit fanduel.com to place your NFL live bets all season long and bet on the college football playoff as well, or whatever you think is going down. Fan duel, the game moves fast and so can you. all right j stevens a locked on buck guys had to head out but let's talk about some other potential names for for this michigan job goins you mentioned an interesting one in kenny dillingham i'm a huge kenny dillingham fan i have been for for quite a while roman i don't know if there is a more perfect hire because for those who don't know he walked into a situation in arizona state in which the recruiting had fallen outside of

the top 100s nationally for a state in Arizona, which yes, is indeed where Arizona states located breaking news. But crazy. I know, I know. It's crazy. Absolutely wild, but I discovered it. I found that out. I wanted to break the news live here on this Big Ten squad. But Herm Edwards had been, they had a, they had a bowl sanction, a postseason ban because of stuff, because of recruiting violations. Herm Edwards had had relating or had done going back to his time there during during COVID and Kenny Dillingham had them in the playoff in his second year. If you're looking at this as, hey, this culture's a disaster, man. I don't know that there's a better fix for that than Kenny Dillingham. No, I absolutely agree. And that's one of those things where, you know,

Jacob was talking about the resources and recruiting when it comes to what Michigan brings to the table. Spencer, you said it perfectly. Look at what he's done at Arizona State. Now, imagine that on a larger scale. I think that's one of those things that certainly does fit. And as you just kind of look at recent track record when it comes to turning around a program that quickly and getting them back to the college football playoff and all that sort of stuff, that is so, so important. And all of this is a lot of these other names get tossed around because the one to me that makes sense, but I know he has a show cause order because of everything that happened there was Jesse Minter, where it's one of those things where that can

help you establish the identity of what you've been on the defensive side of the ball for the last couple of years. And again, I know there are a lot of of reasons why that might not happen. I don't think he would stay. I think you might be right. And there are so many reasons why is that we could dive into. But that's just one of those things where as we consider all of these different names, it's these guys have identities. These guys have clear cut cultures in one way or another that Michigan can really build around, not, you know, blue collar jackets. Goins, uh, talk to me about the idea of Michigan head coach Jedfish. I mean, do you actually want me to or do you just want me to do so because of Roman being here?

Both, both. I don't know. I just, my question for Michigan, and I'll talk about Jeff Fish in a moment, my question for Michigan right now, obviously the timing is horrible. The situation is even worse, but the timing is bad. You just signed a recruiting class where now those players, I believe they'll have a chance to get out of those NLIs, right? They have an opportunity to get their national letter of intense revoked and, be free to do whatever they want to with the initial or the, I guess the official signing day in

February. But then you've got the portal opening up in a few weeks and you're trying to now have to hire a coach and you're probably going to have to hire new staff. I mean, it's a disaster altogether. Jedfish would be an easy fix, I think. And I mean that in a good way. I think he's a guy who's been around. He's a guy that understands. He knows what it would take to come in and at least settle everything down. Right. I think he could do that. I think Dillingham could do that. I've seen some people mention Brian Kelly could do that if they really want to go that direction, a coach like that who could come in and just settle the waters. Because Michigan's not aiming for a national championship in the next two or three years.

Can we just go ahead and say that you've got to get away from all this mess that you're a part of? You've just got to get out. And just Jay was saying it before he left, just reestablish a culture at Michigan. I think Jedfish would be fine to do that. I don't know if he's going to win of a title, but I think it could come in and at least calm everything down if he'd be. Seiko, he mentioned Brian Kelly. And you heard my reaction. What's yours? It's an option.

See, it's an option. It's an option. It's one of the coaches of all time. I kind of feel like Brian Kelly's just completely displaced because he's not going to accept a, Michigan doesn't want him. That would be their, well, okay, I mean, you coached at Notre Dame, you coached at LSU. He would be their, what, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth option. It's not going to be the first round of candidates that they're going to go with.

So let's think about it from Michigan's perspective. If I'm Michigan, I don't want to hire Brian Kelly. When I was getting, when I was getting text messages saying, hey, are you hearing anything about Brian Kelly to Penn State? I was like, I hope not. Please, no. And that's probably the same thing with the Michigan higher-ups is they're like, please, let us not get to a point where we have to consider Brian Kelly. Decent coach under the circumstances, but he just seems so displaced at this point. And I don't think he's going to settle for a group of five job or a lower power four job.

Not Penn State talking about how you get to the eighth or ninth option on the list. And you don't want to be in that position, man. That is fake news. you don't want to be there right yeah it was only the seventh option spencer it doesn't matter how you start it's about how you finish i have a question i know i want to get let the yoxheimer get in here too whoever it is that's hired at michigan do you come in and completely clean house i mean i i honestly have that i i don't care and that may be people getting fired and let go by association What do you mean, clean house?

Clean house. Like, if you're in the- Players, staff, or both? Staff, yeah, staff. I know it's a big deal. And again, we're talking about a- That's the thing. I'm kind of throwing an open question.

The defensive coordinator. What's his name? Wink Martindale. Yeah. Is it worth it? Again, it's not fair. But you're talking about a Michigan program right now that's not competing.

the playoff. You just had your coach fired for things that he was clearly doing on his own time, and that doesn't have anything to do. I don't think with your staff, but just with everything happening, I mean, at what point do you just kind of look at the universe and say, man, we just need to restart. We need a refresh. We need a reset. We need to restart, which may or may not be fair. I don't know. I'm just kind of, again, speaking out here as we're talking about this live. I mean, I just, I don't know, man. Something has to change because clearly it's not going right up in Ann Arbor. Yoxheimer, what's your level of worry that Bob Chesney is about to change course?

I mean, he's a vibes guy. I'm pretty sure he's got too much going on coaching a team in the playoff, right? You're talking about a bunch of guys other than Kurt Signetti who are not in the playoff. If you want a vibe changer, go with Kenny Dillingham. I mean, he's young. He's probably got some years. Give him some patience.

He already went through with ASU. Look at all the things Kenny Dillingham does. Guys who decide to enter the portal, or in this case, intention to enter, still play in our bowl game. supports guys who leave his own program, whether it's coaches or players. You always see that on social media. He's got the right vibe, the right mindset. He would be the right guy to turn around a culture.

I mean, as much as Kalinda Bohr to Michigan makes sense, do you want a guy who is unhappy with his current life? Do you want the same thing potentially rumored with Jedfish, right, Roman, in Washington? Why have people unhappy? Have someone happy who's ready to take on the challenge and has already proven to be a culture changer, not just a dude looking to get up. Mm, let me, let me throw this at you. Change the culture from the place that he showed up at.

Would love to have the Michigan job. Tell me why Billy Napier is the right man for the job in Ann Arbor. We need locked on Gatorsose, Brandon, where you at, Brandon. Oh, he's in London somewhere. He's going to pop in right now. I think he's asleep. Hey, everything I said was true. Billy Napier changed the culture in Gainesville.

I never said it was good factually accurate yeah he's the next head coach at James Madison by the way for those for those who don't know are there any other just to wrap this show like random names or potentially viable options that are hanging out there that you think Michigan would try and go get because I'm looking at I mean there are guys that could be vibes and there's guys who could actually coach this team right do you want a guy to be there for two years I mean just to Pence. I mean, there's a lot of dudes who are, you know, Lincoln Riley. I've seen, I've seen Chip Kelly in here. Speaking about the ultimate dumpster in terms of like,

oh, oh, oh, oh, no. Chip Kelly is, is the wrong. And they're right. I could tell Spencer loves that idea. You know Spencer has turned a corner when he's like hating on Chip Kelly because I just don't think it's a good fit. You know what? Someone, hey, someone has suggested Chip Kelly to Washington State that there's been some contact there, that would be fun. That would be, that'd be perfect fit, maybe not, but that would at least be fun. Chip Kelly at Michigan, boy, I don't think that would go in, I don't think that would go in a positive direction. Seiko, you're saying something.

Go ahead, Seiko, go ahead. Lincoln Riley, that's who I threw out. That's, I, that. Oh, how do I add this live stream to Locked on USC? Had them watch the whole show for the last. all of a sudden it's we too hold on i can i can edit i've seen oh oh wait wait wait wait wait oh no i won't do that i could there have been like in in the same vein though to saco's point in the same vein that we've heard so much about like helen wanting this job or that job we've heard

similar rumors just through some back channels about lincoln riley like everywhere there's certainly a non-zero chance there and one of the things that you feel i've heard those one thing that needs to be considered with all of this as well is the fact that Michigan does not have to pay a buyout for Sharon Moore. Yeah, they got plenty of money. I think this is a really important factor in all of this because yeah, you just have extra money to burn. If you say that's the guy we want, oh, his buyout is what? Yeah, we don't care. Wasn't he linked to like every SEC job opening like Auburn and Florida? I don't know if that ever got. I think Florida was what was the most serious, but I don't know if it ever actually got very far. I'm seeing a, dude, some of these

names in the comments. I don't know we've got to wrap up here, but Mike Tomlin is being thrown around out there. Those aren't serious. I mean, I'm just, I'm just reading. Oh, I just thought of the perfect one. I, oh, man. John Gruden. If you go and John Gruden, I raise you a coach O. That's, that is a How about, Ed O is the head coach, and John Gruden is the O.C. Oh, I was going to go Chip Kelly is the O.C. That staff would feed families. Ed O could be the D.C.

Yeah, Eddow, you know what? Let's make that three-man staff. Edos the head coach. No, no, no, no. How would it have to work? You need the most exciting dude is the coach. Gruden's the head coach. Ed is the D.C.

Kelly is the offensive coordinator. Who says no? Can work. But I don't want Groot with interviews. I want Coach O to do the interviews. Yes. Oh, obviously. Obviously, you want code. Go divers. You got to have. I'm doing a press conference here. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know. I just think there's some fascinating names. Most of these are not going to be legit, but I mean, we were just kind of spitballing at the end. I mean, it's, you never, I mean, who knows, right? Who knows? I mean, it's the fun of it. Is the interim going to be the interim for a season?

But how about Michigan now, right? How about Michigan? Since everybody else has hired a coach, they are front and center, man. Front and center in terms of the head coaching. Front and center. Unfortunately. And how much does it help with the transfer portal window

not opening until January 2nd as opposed to when it used to be? Okay, so I hear your point on that, Yoxheimer. Here's the other side of that coin. When the portal opens, conversations have already been had for many, many weeks. So I know it's crazy to suggest the tampering happens. That's insanity. But if you hire a coach in 10 days time, I think if you're Michigan,

you have to just punt on 2026. I think you have to just accept that you are not going to be good and you have to figure out how can we stabilize this in the long term. You can't make a rash decision because you want a coach to try to get, you know, some more portal guys for 2020. 26. Like, man, you might have to give up on keeping Bryce Underwood. You might have to give up on being a good team next year. Maybe you don't. But you can't make a move with that in mind. That means you don't have to go get the huge name, right? You don't have to go get a Lincoln Riley name. You don't have to win the headlines or the presser or whatever we always talk about. Like, if that's the case, Spencer, because I do think that's a legitimate option of just punting on 26? Michigan can kind of take their time. Punting? Do you say punting? Do we need to go live on Locked on Hawkeyes?

Hey, watch it now. They lost a lot of close game here. Can I throw one more fantastic name that I saw in the comments? Hit me with it, Roman. Hugh Jackson. Yeah. Huge Jackson, baby. That's deep in the vault.

That is. That is deep. I'm trying to think of like the most random coach that's been out of it for a long time. Oh, here we go. I got it. I see it. I see it. Bob's stupid.

No, I'm not seeing anything. this is I'm David Shaw yeah he had Roman gets it after three one seasons at Stanford Roman get I know one of the craziest things I've ever seen Stanford went downhill and David Shaw was getting he's on an NFL staff somewhere anyone know what his current job title is

I'm gonna look uh he is the passing game coordinator for the Detroit Lions he's coached in college He's got, I think he's been in the Big Ten before. No, I have that wrong in my head. He was San Diego, Stanford. Hey, hey, man. If you want to have an uncomfortable blend between power football and the slow mesh, David Shaw is the man for the job.

Gross. Oh, man. This was the greatest thing we've ever done. A round of applause for Jacob Goans. This was his idea. and we've pulled off our first ever locked on Big Ten squad live. What's that? First of many.

First of many, perhaps. First of many. It's going to happen to get. I think it will. Roman Thomashoff, locked on Huskies. We had Jay Stevens, a locked on Buckeyes, Jacob Goans, locked on Hoosier, Zach Seiko, locked on nitty lines and Zach Anderson, Yoxheimer,

locked on UCLA. I'm Spencer McLaughin from Lockdown all over the place, and we'll see you next time. Until then, hope you have a wonderful rest of your day. Thank you.