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Starting point is 00:00:01 Selection Sunday is here, and the beg question, for Iowa fans, are the Hawkeyes safely in or sweating out on the bubble? All week projections had Iowa round that tricky eight-nine line, but there's a real chance the Hawkeyes land somewhere very different when the bracket drops. Let's break down where Iowa actually stands as we head in to Selection Sunday. You are Locked on Hawkeyes, your daily podcast on the Iowa Hawkeyes. part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Welcome in. I'm Trent Condon, and this is the Locked-on Hawkeyes podcast. Thanks for making Locked-on Hawkeyes your first listen every day. We are your daily Iowa Hawkeye podcast.

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Starting point is 00:01:16 Order now at 5hourenergy.com or on Amazon. Well, we got the news today that Iowa, as we thought on the women's basketball side, will be hosting in the first and second round of the NCAA tournament. No surprise there, as they are a projected number two seats. But what is the impact of that blowout loss in the Big Ten championship game to UCLA going to mean for them when we hear their name selected in the NCAA tournament? We will talk about that today. We're also going to be joined by Tom Kakert from hawkeye report.com.

Starting point is 00:01:47 Get a deep dive into all things basketball with Tom coming up here in just a little bit. But we begin here on Saturday as we go through and take a look back at what we saw conference tournaments continue on, even after the Hawkeyes get knocked out by Ohio State. they continue to play the other tournaments that are out there. But what it really means for the NCAA selection committee, a thought at the top here. And we get the bracket reveal on the men's side just one time. The women had two releases this season, which I like. And it's nice to have those.

Starting point is 00:02:18 They just released the top 16 seeds. We just find out, you know, kind of how regions would look and the like. But in the grand scheme of things, it really doesn't matter most because it matter much, I should say, because we do know those teams for the most part. Maybe there's a surprise for that final team in in the top 16. You can make an argument. Team should have been a little bit higher. But overall, we know those squads.

Starting point is 00:02:41 What we don't get a view when they do this, as opposed to giving us a full bracket, is what it means on the bubble and what the selection committee is looking for. We look through historically what selection committees basically do. And we have a pretty good idea. But as we're learning, this is always evolving. We also know that year after year, the selection committee changes. There are new faces that come in each and every season because of that. We get near new chair people that are at the head and kind of the talking person at the point of everything.

Starting point is 00:03:10 So we really don't have a full idea of what it's going to look for. And I think us as fans and media members trying to decipher everything and see how this is going to play out. We really don't know because we don't know how they look at the bubble. And we go into this really blind every single season. And as that pertains to Iowa, you go through and you look at the Hawkeyes resume. We've talked about this so much throughout the course of this season. Predictive metrics, very good. Those are the metrics that you look at Las Vegas, the point spreads that are used.

Starting point is 00:03:40 This is the area that you look at how good a team they believe is when they continue to play throughout the course of the year. They're ranked 25th at Kempom, 26 at Bart Torbik, 31st and BPI. Those are the three predictive metrics that the committee uses. But you also have result-based. That is what you've actually done throughout the course of the year. and that does not paint nearly as good of a picture for the Hawkeyes. Iowa's KPI is 50th in the country. Wob, which we have learned, is an incredibly important metric for the NCAA committee.

Starting point is 00:04:12 And you go back to last season when that really started to become in vogue of what they were doing. It became maybe the most important one when it came down to the final spot and how North Carolina, with only one quad one victory got in. It was their wins above bubble. That was the differentiator between them getting that final spot. So that's one we look at. Now, that number is 39th in the country, still not close to the bubble. I don't believe they're going to be shipped to Dayton.

Starting point is 00:04:37 We've talked about that a ton. I lost to Maryland definitely would have painted a different picture. But since we don't know how they look at teams in this range like Iowa is sitting, most bracketologists have them as a nine seed currently. That is updated a little bit here throughout the day. And a few brackatologists have updated as games have continued to go final. And we see them on that nine line. a couple of 10 seeds that are out there.

Starting point is 00:05:00 Found an interesting one where they're being shipped down to St. Louis. They would take on Kentucky, the seventh seed in the first round. And with a win, likely Iowa State the two seed, might be saying to yourself, well, how can that happen? They already played this season. This changed a few years back where they allow teams, even if they played a single game in the regular season, to meet as early as the round of 32. So that is a possibility that that could happen. Same thing with Iowa facing off against Michigan, if they would have played them in the Big 10, tournament for a second time. That wouldn't be the case, but it is now bringing up the case.

Starting point is 00:05:33 Michigan State and Minnesota. They played in the round of 32 a couple of years back when they were here in Des Moines. So it has happened, happened again a little bit more recently. Also, it is something that does happen now with these big conferences, 16, 18 teams. It's going to happen more and more. And it is a real possibility. Another thing you're going to be hearing a lot here leading up to Selection Sunday is how the committee is scrubbing the resumes of these teams. They're going under the hood, looking one more time, not just relying on the predictive markets and the results-based markets, but looking at actual that resume and what is in there. Well, first of all, Iowa does have two quad-three losses, both the loss to Maryland and the loss to Penn State on the road.

Starting point is 00:06:14 Both of those games are now quad-three victor losses for them. And on top of it, there's no changing. Nothing's going to change here over the course of Saturday night into Sunday that is going to change what we see on that front, those are going to be big negatives there. We don't know, again, how this committee is going to look at them, but it is a pretty big negative. You also look, and Iowa has four quad one victories. Pretty good. We talked about North Carolina last year with only one. Feel like you're in pretty good shape.

Starting point is 00:06:42 However, there is also the Quad 1A, those upper level victories that they have. Iowa just has one of those. That was the whole win against Nebraska. There are other victories that they have that are Quad 1 victories. Ohio State at home at Indiana at Washington. Of course, those last two teams are not even going to be NCAA tournament teams. So though they're nice victories, they're not elite-level victories like it would be with some of the other opportunities, obviously that they've had throughout the course of that season.

Starting point is 00:07:10 Is this going to be something that is a negative? Iowa 5 and 1 record against Quad 2. Pretty good shape in that one when you stack them up against other teams. They have the win at home against UCLA. neutral court wins against Old Miss and Grand Canyon. And that Old Miss win looked better and better as they continued their run to the semifinals and overtime before they finally fell to Arkansas, along with the wins against Northwestern and on the road at Oregon. Those are their quad two victory. So I just pulled up some random teams that most bracketologists do have behind Iowa and see

Starting point is 00:07:42 how the resume stack up in comparison. NC State. Predictive markets, a little bit behind Iowa. result-based metrics, just a touch behind what Iowa is. They are 5 and 8 against Quad 1. Iowa, we mentioned the Hawkeyes resume. They are 4 and 9. So very similar in that realm. One more victory, though, for NC State. On top of it, NC State has road wins at Clemson at SMU.

Starting point is 00:08:09 The Clemson won very good. A whole victory against North Carolina. That is a team. Obviously, it's going to be a tournament team. So got a couple of things there. They do not have any losses. in quad three. Texas A&M, another team that does not have a quad three loss where Iowa has two of them, a five and eight record against quad one, very good, including road wins at Georgia and

Starting point is 00:08:30 Auburn, a home win against Kentucky, a couple of road victories against Texas and Oklahoma. Teams just on the outside looking in. Texas A&M could be a team we suddenly see maybe shift up there a little bit more. The other one that I brought up thought was interesting is Missouri, and all their metrics are behind Iowa. They're 20 and 12. Their Ken Palm numbers, 51. Their Wobb wins above bubble is 41. So a little bit behind Iowa, a 5 and 7 record, though, against Quad 1. But some really good victories in there.

Starting point is 00:08:59 They beat Florida. They beat Vanderbilt, who's going to be playing for the SEC title. They went into Kentucky and got a good road victory against them, along with home wins against Tennessee, against A&M, another team without a quad three. What I'm getting to here is there's a real possibility is I think we've all kind of settled in the fact that Iowa probably is going to be playing in the 8-9 game and maybe as a 9-seed in the 8-9 game. I think there's a real possibility. In fact, I am going to predict right now.

Starting point is 00:09:29 Iowa will be a 10-seed in the NCAA tournament, and that's a good thing. In fact, if you had a choice right now, absolutely you would rather be a 10-seed. Yes, your first-round opponent is going to be a touch more difficult than facing an 8-seed. Current eight seeds right now, Clemson, Georgia, Villanova, Utah State. Certainly none of those teams scare you. The seven seeds, UCLA, already beat them, St. Mary's, Miami, and Kentucky. They wouldn't play UCLA, so it would be one of those three teams, Kentucky, Miami or St. Mary's. I think you feel just as good with any of those matchups, certainly if you watch those teams throughout the course of the year.

Starting point is 00:10:06 But most importantly, if you do win that first round game, playing a number two seed as opposed to a number one, feels like it's in a different boat playing duke michigan sierra zota this week playing those teams even florida who got beat by vanderbilt as the commodores uh ripped them and just offensively played an elite level but florida has been playing some great basketball over the last two months you certainly feel much better about a matchup against an iowa state a michigan state a houston as opposed to those number one seeds that aside that's where we are currently with the bubble and I'll make my prediction. I hope I'm right because I much rather have Iowa sitting there as a 10 seed

Starting point is 00:10:45 as opposed to sitting in that 8-9 game just for the potential of making a run. Let's talk with Tom Kakert from Hawkeye Report.com, get his perspective on everything. He was in Chicago for the Big Ten tournament. We wrap things up from over there and a whole lot more, including I was NIL. How good a shape is the Hawkeye men's basketball team going to be when it comes to getting into the portal and what they have to do going into next season, year number two for Ben McCullum. We'll talk about that as we continue.

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Starting point is 00:14:36 Let's talk some Hawks. He's Tom Kekard. Hockyreport. com. Did you come home, Tom? Are you still in Chicago? Oh, I headed home after the game. So, I'll blame you.

Starting point is 00:14:46 Yeah, I got. Busy week coming on. And I didn't want to have to drive in this awful wind today. So, oh, this nasty. Yeah. Hey, I love Chicago. I think a lot of people love Chicago. I don't love Chicago when it comes to an event like this.

Starting point is 00:15:03 Indianapolis is further to drive. But I think it's a better destination because, you know, the fan bases, they can, you know, get together and they can, you know, you know, where everybody for the most part is going to be found, you know, partying in events of the game or after the game. And that's not just not going to happen around the United Center. How was it received as far as those two cities that seemingly share this event? Yeah, it was, especially Wednesday, the sparse crowd. You know, there was a lot of people there for the highway came and there was even less people there, surprisingly, for the

Starting point is 00:15:39 Washington USC game. Imagine. Not a lot of USC Washington fans that made the trek to Shytown. But yeah, it's just because the United Center is just off in the distance. It's not a downtown arena. And that's the great thing about India is Cambridge is right downtown and there's all the bars and restaurants within a couple blocks of there. And you've got places you can go and hang out with your friends and just not.

Starting point is 00:16:09 you got to drive to the United Center and it's just where you sit and you just, it's not like you can go to, you know, a pub or a bar or something and watch some other games and walk over there. It just doesn't happen. This team battles back again, down 16 against Ohio State, an opportunity to tie the game. We'll talk a little bit about the end game situations, but we've seen this continually out of this squad. At times out, man, they battle back. They believe they keep fighting out there.

Starting point is 00:16:37 And I know there's frustration, losses. of eight of the last 10, that's definitely going to be there. And you see it on the message boards and on social media, people are not happy about that. But when you take that step back and look at big picture, building the culture, it's something that's difficult for us to talk about on radio, for you to write about it, something that you just have to see, right? It's the old adage of what? I know pornography when I see it.

Starting point is 00:17:00 I know culture when I see it. And with this Iowa program of Ben McCollum, it does feel like the culture is building in a good place. Yeah. And it's kind of, you know, I would compare it to like the culture under Kirk Farron's. It's just, it's going to be kind of the same thing is you just kind of have to build that base. And it takes time when we saw that with Kirk. It took a couple of years to finally get there and, you know, break the rock, if you will.

Starting point is 00:17:26 And to me, success was making the NCAA tournament this year with this team. And they're going to do that. They're going to make the NCAA tournament. And we'll see if they can win a game. Maybe, you know, if they win too, then they're really, you know, then they'll build a statue for Ben McCollum outside of Carver Hawke Arena. I'm half kidding, folks. But, yeah, it's a start now. And then after the season's over, it's about going shopping and trying to build something.

Starting point is 00:17:58 Because I think he probably learned a bit about the type of players you have to have in the Big Ten. And I think that's one of the things that he's probably learned a little bit about. Yeah, I couldn't agree. I have to upgrade. Absolutely. I couldn't agree with you more. And we just, we had a caller during the break knowing you were coming on,

Starting point is 00:18:17 asked me to ask you to ask you that. I mean, how is his message being received? Are they making any inroads towards next year's team? Have you got any intel you can share? And it's, there's really nothing that they can officially do. You know, with the portal yet, because those guys are not in the portal and that really doesn't open up until April 5th. So you've got to wait, but I'll tell you this, because I know just talking to other coaches and in the business,

Starting point is 00:18:49 I mean, there's been discussions with agents, hey, I'm going to have five guys. These guys are probably going to be in the portal if you're interested when the portal opens in April. And that's probably going back to January. Wow. This stuff just goes on. behind the scenes. And so you've got kind of an idea about who's going to be available. The next step is the price tag.

Starting point is 00:19:12 And Jamie Shaw from on three, one of our basketball recruiting guys, put a story up this week where, you know, the average cost of a really good top level center in the portal this year is going to be about $3 million a year. A really good point guard is going to be $800,000 to $2 million. So that's what you're dealing with now. it's a financial decision for a lot of these guys, too. When it comes to that, how was Iowa's Iowa men's basketball NIL? Good shape, middle the pack, lower third of the Big Ten. Where would you kind of rank it right now from what you know in their ability? You need a point guard.

Starting point is 00:19:51 You need a rim protector. As you said, those are going to cost money. How is Iowa financially in the NILNscape for the men? I know that they're working hard to get kind of, I guess you would call it almost a war chest put together. I think they're just out of the house settlement. They'll probably have about four mills, what I would guess, out of that. You know, football's going to get the bulk of that. And then they're going to have some extra money.

Starting point is 00:20:19 So I would guess, boy, I think they'd probably want to be, you know, $4 million on the outside stuff and then $4 million from the house. So if they can get somewhere around there, that's competitive to the mid-upper pack of the Big Ten is my estimation. But there would be a lot of Big Ten schools that are over 10 pretty easily. Yeah, no doubt. Tom, do you know where the team's going to gather on Sunday? We'll be an open event. I know there'll be a media opportunity afterwards.

Starting point is 00:20:53 You know what they're doing for the Selection Sunday show? By the way, if you can't be in front of your TV, we're going to air it on KXNO from 5 until 8, so you'll see the bracket unveiled. and then that's the Westwood One programming, and then obviously banter about the brackets and et cetera. So do you know where the team's going to be, Tom? I have not. I know that we're talking about it.

Starting point is 00:21:15 I think I wanted to wait until after the Big Ten tournament got done to kind of make some decisions. I'm hoping that they're going to let us kind of do something. I know there was some talk of the men's and women's team kind of getting having an event somewhere, but I don't know that that's probably going to happen now. we'll see but um i hopefully we'll we'll be able to talk to some of the guys and get to see their reactions when they see their name up on the on the board what are you hearing what are you

Starting point is 00:21:44 seeing we talk about bracket matrix a lot with all the bracket pal just put together they have iwa as a number nine see currently when you put it together as low as a 10 i think there was an eight out there i know a lot of hawkeye fans want to see him out of the eight nine game i know ken miller wants to see him out of an 8-9 game. What do you anticipate we're going to see on Sunday? I think it's probably 8-9. I don't think they're going to get to a 7. I think the 10s are worse than Iowa's resume.

Starting point is 00:22:11 So it's probably going to be 8-9 somewhere. Here's my fun thought. 10 wins the Ivey, and they get a 16, and they go against whoever it is that Iowa. has in the 8-9 game. Wouldn't that be fun? You guys get to interview Fray and again. That'll be great.

Starting point is 00:22:33 Wouldn't that be fun? That would be awesome. Maybe the 8-9 game is TCU so you get Brock Harding there. We mentioned that earlier. Yep. That would be. The athletic has Iowa versus TCU and the 8-9. Wouldn't that be something?

Starting point is 00:22:48 Wouldn't that be something if Frayn makes a tournament? Just to begin with, Frayn makes a tournament, which is something that could happen. And then he gets a 16 and we're not. the same place. Boy, that'd be fun. Trevor alluded to it earlier, the final shot, the Haustin's final shot.

Starting point is 00:23:06 Yeah. He had to be anticipating contact, Tom. We both kind of feel that way. I think McCallum kind of tipped his hand that that's what they thought was going to happen. That had to be what predicated that disappointing a shot at the end there, right? They were, they were, they were yelling foul, foul, foul,

Starting point is 00:23:24 before the play even inbounded. and the players were reacting to that. And there were guys coming at him, foul, foul, foul. So it was a good trick on their part, you know, to pretend like they were going to foul and keep verbalizing it like that. And then Iowa reacts that way. And I still don't think he got touched.

Starting point is 00:23:45 He claimed he got. No, I don't think he did either. Yeah. I think he just kind of dove backwards and shot it and put it on top of the backboard. Howard's shot was right on. I thought it to say back iron. I mean, it would have been something if that one went in. But, yeah, you just, you can't dig that hole.

Starting point is 00:24:05 And they dug a hole. And then up by, I wonder what would have happened. I'd say Howard doesn't dribble a ball off his foot. Maybe they get a bucket on that possession and things are a little different. Before, I don't want to forget this. I'm going to come right back with the question here. Sturts is quad. I think that's what they would refer to it during the game.

Starting point is 00:24:25 He didn't miss much time. He was out for a minute, right? They did take him off the floor for a minute, but is there, is this serious, Tom? How concerned are they, if at all? He told me he got a knee to that quad. He's got a big pat on that, wearing those compression shorts, and it's a padded thing. So it had to have been a pretty good knee. I think he's probably dealing with something already there.

Starting point is 00:24:51 And he says he's going to be fine. So he's going to basically get like a week. week off from playing. So I think from that aspect, it's probably good because, boy, he was on fumes yesterday, for sure at the end of that game. You could just, it's body language. I was watching him, and he was just taking these deep breaths when there was any break and just, he wasn't grabbing his shorts because he doesn't want to show people that he's

Starting point is 00:25:20 tired, but he was, he was exhausted. Tom, take us to the post-game press conference. thought it was really interesting. McCollum talking about going from really good to great and not settling. I know that people want to build a trophy if you just gets him to a Sweet 16 this year. It doesn't sound like, though, that's what he wants. When you hear him, you're in all those press conferences. We've had opportunities with talk with him. He is a very interesting guy to hear speak and doesn't just give you cliches.

Starting point is 00:25:47 He digs a little bit deeper. Take us into that press conference yesterday, what he said and what he's still trying to build with this program. It was so fascinating listening to talk about that. It sounds like he's read the Jim Collins book, Good to Great, and just he doesn't want to, you know, he says sometimes it feels like this team is just happy being good and that they can be great. And he said he did that in his career when he was making Sweet 16s and felt like, I'm doing pretty good. And he had to push himself a little bit more to be great and then start winning next. national titles instead of just making it the sweet 16s. And it's, you just, that's his mentality.

Starting point is 00:26:30 And that's why I think he's going to be successful is because he just doesn't accept good. He, he's never going to do one of those guys that's just like, oh, okay, if we've made it work, we're good here. And we're just going to start kind of being on cruise control. He's just ultimately motivated. I'll tell you, Wednesday, that was on edge as on edge as I've ever seen him. on a sideline because I think he felt they had to win that game to feel good about making the NCAA tournament. And he was, he was wound so tight.

Starting point is 00:27:05 And you could tell he was exhausted after the game when we were talking to him. He was just like, he spent because he was expending so much energy on the sidelines, just coaching the team and getting him to that win. And I was worried when it was down 11, got to. say that. And then 21-zip run usually turns those surrounds upside down and you could tell Maryland's body language just they left the building. They were ready to go home. Tom Cakard, Hawkeye Report.com, joining us as we take a look. As always appreciate Tom's time for hanging out with us and talking a little Hawkeyes. We continue. Let's jump over to the women's side. They have locked up a home date

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Starting point is 00:30:39 Trent, kind of back with you one final time on the Lockdown Hawkeyes podcast. Thanks for making Lockheyes your first listen every day as we get ready for selections Sunday. It'll be great to hear the Hawkeyes name called after missing the tournament the final two years of Fray McCaffrey. Speaking of Fran, his squad out at Penn now is going to be going for a title in the Ivy League as they pulled an upset win today. And they'll get an opportunity to punch their ticket to the big dance if they can get a victory. For the Iowa side, it's waiting.

Starting point is 00:31:08 I think they're going to be my prediction in number 10 seed. And I hope I'm right on that front. That would be a path. Maybe something crazy could happen. That aside, let's jump over to the women. They will have a top 16 seed. We knew that. It was official, though, on Saturday.

Starting point is 00:31:23 day it was announced by the NCAA women's selection committee that that will be happening. And I think they are very solidly as a number two seed, very difficult to envision a scenario where they're not a number two seed. But who are they going to be stacked up with? Who's going to be the likely number three seed that they're going to be facing in the Sweet 16? And if they win that, who would they face in the elite eight? And more and more than I look at it, I think we're going to see South Carolina again for the, what would be, third time in the last four years.

Starting point is 00:31:52 we're going to see them one in the final four, the other in the national championship game here, potentially in elite eight. I think Texas is going to slide ahead of South Carolina. And I think Iowa's resume, when you look at them, obviously the two head-to-head wins against Michigan, that goes a long ways. When the Iowa resume, you go through and you look at the different numbers that are out there for them, including their 10 and 6 record against Quad 1, no Quad 2, no Quad 3, no Quad 4 losses on their resume. a very good resume overall. And I think those quad one victories, the 10 of them stacked up, two against Michigan, on the road at Maryland, on the road at Nebraska, the home wins that they have against Ohio State and Michigan and Oregon and Washington, all of those, along with the win against Illinois

Starting point is 00:32:38 in the Big Ten tournament, neutral win against Baylor, another very solid one there. I think that's going to be enough, certainly a number two seed. And that's my prediction there. We'll see South Carolina as the number one seed in Iowa's bracket when the committee comes out. We will have a full breakdown of both brackets when we resume on Sunday night after selection Sunday. We will have you covered here a first look at the opponent on both side. What the path is going to look like and where the Hawkeyes are going to be come NCAA tournament time. Are they staying close to home? Will it be St. Louis a potential destination for

Starting point is 00:33:11 Iowa or they can have to travel? Maybe San Diego with a potential matchup against Arizona if they are stuck in that eight, nine game. A lot of maturations, a lot of opportunities, a lot of excitement, great time, and certainly if you're a college basketball fan. Thanks for making lockdown Hawkeyes, your first listen every day. We'll talk to you again on Sunday night. Until then, go Hawks.

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