Locked On Hawkeyes - Daily Podcast On Iowa Hawkeyes Football & Basketball - Deuce Hogan, Tyler Elsbury, Andrew Wilson, and Elijah Yelverton join the podcast for a #Swarm20 recruiting super show

Episode Date: February 5, 2020

It's a recruiting super show in honor of National Signing Day. We spend some time breaking down this class. Who could be key contributors right away, what guys are flying under the radar, and how this class impacts the depth of the team. Then we head into four interview with #Swarm20 commits starting with 4-star offensive lineman Tyler Elsbury, then PWO TE Andrew Wilson, an excerpt from a previous interview with 3-star TE Elijah Yelverton, and finishing up with 4-star QB Deuce Hogan. This is an episode you do not want to miss! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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As always, I am your host, Andrew Wade, and I'm excited to be back on another episode of the Locked On Hawkeyes podcast because today we have an episode that we have never done before. And with it being National Signing Day, obviously the Iowa Hawkeyes football team has done a fantastic job of getting nearly their entire class signed already. But regardless, thought it'd be a great opportunity to kind of do a full recruiting breakdown. And so on today's show, we're going to first be discussing the recruiting class, some of the guys who might be sleeper picks that could be really good players in the future, that kind of thing.

And then we're going to jump into not one, not two, not even three, but four interviews with recruits from the class of 2020. We have Tyler Ellsbury, Deuce Hogan, Andrew Wilson, and Elijah Yelverton. The first three are going to be live interviews that we've had in the last week. And Elijah Yelverton's interview is from a few months ago. I interviewed him before his senior season. And so I want to get some of that audio aired back on the show because I know a lot of the listeners here are newer listeners who haven't heard a lot of our older stuff. So I want to make sure I give that as well. So we have four interviews with recruits from the class of 2020. I hope you all love it because it has been an absolute blast getting this whole episode together. And I think

it's going to be a really great time. If you are looking for some analysis of the Iowa versus Purdue matchup that's coming up tonight, make sure to tune into yesterday's episode. That's where we covered the Iowa versus Purdue game. So if you're looking for that, that's where you can find it. And if you have tuned in before, but you haven't done this yet, make sure to like, review, and subscribe wherever you downloaded this podcast at, whether that is Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Spotify, or the brand new Himalaya Podcast app. And make sure to go to follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. As I said, I am actually on PTO today, tomorrow, and Friday. I'm in Mexico drinking Coronas, Mai Tais, and whatever other, whatever

type of alcoholic beverage I can get my hands on on a beautiful beach. So most of my updates from here on forward are, you know, most of the real-time updates are going to be via Twitter. We do have another great episode coming at you tomorrow though. Cody Hills, the founder of Iowa Sim, you know, an awesome, cool simulation event that happens every football season before each and every game. Kind of gets fans pumped up and ready to go for Iowa football games. He is going to come on the show and talk about that and how he was able to turn it into a charity type of thing, a charitable giving where he's able to give thousands of dollars to the University Children's Hospital.

So make sure to tune into tomorrow's episode as well. You're not going to want to miss that episode with Cody Hills. That being said, let's jump into it. We got a lot of stuff to cover. This is not going to be your standard 20 to 25 minute episode. This is going to be a 45 to 50, maybe even 60 minute episode, depending on how long I talk today. So that being said, lots of interviews coming your way.

I want to break down this class, though, first and foremost, because this is one of the best classes that Kirk Behrens has compiled. I think the rankings obviously speak for themselves, you know, a little bit higher than we've typically seen, at least from a national perspective. But more so than not, like, they just have a lot of recruits that I think are really excited to be Iowa Hawkeyes and a lot of recruits that have committed very early and have not wavered on their commitment.

So a really exciting time to be an Iowa Hawkeye fan. And it all starts with quarterback Deuce Hogan, who has really helped not build this class, but be a vocal leader for this class. And you're going to hear him talk about what kind of help he did in the recruiting aspect. And what he's basically going to say, he's going to give a very humble response. The Iowa football staff did a fantastic job of recruiting some incredible players. And Deuce has just been a leader. He's been reaching out to everyone on Twitter.

He's been talking to them, bringing everyone together. And that's really what his involvement has been. But he was really the catalyst for this class, the guy who kind of got this started. To get your quarterback that early, that helps you build another recruiting class around that quarterback. And we haven't necessarily seen that always in the past, but loved the fact that we got due so early. And then that kind of started a wave. And a lot of that wave took place over this past summer where Iowa reeled in most of its class. And finally, before the early National Signing Day, 20 signed in December.

So awesome stuff there. I was currently on a hiatus from the show, so I didn't get to cover that a lot, which is why we're breaking a lot of it down on today's show. But Swarm 20 is ranked 32nd in the nation as of my recording, which is Sunday, February 2nd. Like I said, on PTO, can't exactly record the day of the event, so I wanted to at least give you some content. They're also currently ranked 8th in the Big Ten. And really at this point, there's only two that are currently left outstanding.

Michael Lois and Kalon Goley, the cornerback from Largo. Michael's an interesting case. Had a serious injury. Iowa hasn't wavered from a scholarship offer perspective, which I think is a really cool thing from the Hawks. And then Kalon Goley, some of his teammates have already signed know, obviously decided to wait for whatever reason to each their own. So hopefully Goley signs and obviously Lois as well. And it'd be great to see Lois be able to get healthy enough to be and be able to put on that black and gold. But nevertheless, obviously the first and foremost

is his health. So that'll be interesting to see. And then also let's not forget about Coy Cronk, the offensive tackle transfer from Indiana. He's technically considered a part of this class. And I think that was an under-radar, under-the-radar steal from the Hawks to be able to get a starting tackle from the Big Ten. A four-year starter tackle, a guy who should play in the NFL as long as his health is back in order this season after that devastating ankle injury this past year. That's a guy who should be able to step in and start instantly and provide basically a great transition from Tristan Wirfs to one of the other younger guys. Also, it's important to note that this is the first recruiting class without Reece Morgan.

Obviously, Reece Morgan had a very big part in this recruiting class, but he is not the one who finished it out. Jay Neiman came on and did a fantastic job. I thought the Iowa coaching staff did a great job of dividing up the regions of the state and really attacking it well. With Iowa State doing so well, with Nebraska having Scott Frost, whatever you want to say about Nebraska, Scott Frost is a good recruiter. And so to have to go against some of those guys is impressive to be able to get the class they did,

especially some of the Iowa guys they've gotten. And we even see it with the Class 21, I believe, has been kind of marked as maybe the best recruiting class of all time in Iowa from a high school perspective. So it'll be really important that Iowa continues that trend of securing the in-state guys and keeping them in-state at Iowa. Also pretty interesting, depending on which rankings you're looking at, multiple guys are ranked as four stars.

Deontay Craig, Luke Leitchie, Logan Jones, and Deuce Hogan, and also Yaha Black, a recent four-star bump up as well. You don't typically see as many of the higher-profile guys in an Iowa class. We're going to see that next year as well. Already got a few top-rated guys. But overall, this class, from top to bottom, a great class and a very well-rounded class. One quarterback, two running backs, four wide receivers, three offensive linemen, six defensive linemen, two linebackers, and four DBs. And I think when you look at it from that, Iowa does have a lot of depth and they have a lot of younger players play a lot of key minutes last year and in the past two seasons. They are losing some good players, obviously losing your senior quarterback

Nate Stanley, losing an A.J. Epineza, a Tristan Wirfs. Those are never easy gaps to fill. Losing Christian Welch at middle linebacker, two DBs, Geno Stone and Michael Ojemudia, and both defensive tackles, right? That's tough. That is not an easy thing to fill, but those are also areas where Iowa has done a great job of building depth over the course of the last several seasons and has always historically done pretty well with. Defensive back is an area I am very, I'm not concerned at all. If you caught our interview with Michael Ojemudia last weekend, we talked to him about what is going to be happening,

who is going to be taking his place, and he had the utmost confidence that there's five or six guys who could step in and be a top-tier starter in the Big Ten at the cornerback position. So you love to hear that. I don't think defensive back is an area to be too concerned with. That being said, we've seen freshmen play in the past Ten at the cornerback position. So you love to hear that. I don't think defensive back is an area to be too concerned with. That being said, we've seen freshmen play in the past couple years, so what defensive back is going to step up and play, that remains to be seen.

Obviously, there's a lot of open spots and open positions in that back secondary for Phil Parker. The linebacker position, lots of guys here still. Even though Christian Welch has left, a lot of linebackers still vying for time. We saw two linebackers get some playing time though Christian Welch has left, a lot of linebackers still vying for time. We saw two linebackers get some playing time behind Christian Welch at that middle linebacker position this past season. Also, don't forget about four-star linebacker Justin Jacobs from Ohio. He didn't get any playing time last year on the actual defensive side of the field. He could be a guy

to watch out for. So I don't see a lot from the linebacker position being an impact, you know, a true freshman impact type linebacker in this class. Lots of other positions to cover. A few other things I want to make sure I touch on before we jump into the interviews for today's show. Before we do that, though, before we cover the rest of the positions and talk about a few sleepers who I think could be guys to watch out for in this class, we're going to take a quick break. I do have a few messages for you from our sponsors, so stay tuned, and I'll be back

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this is not going to be a traditional show. We have a very long show as I, I provide a ton of interviews. I think you're going to really enjoy the content on today's episode of the lockdown Hawkeyes podcast. We were going through the position groups though, talking about where there could be some impact players starting, you know know, next up, we talked about the linebacker position and the defensive back position, but let's focus on the defensive line, and this will be an

interesting spot because there's a lot of guys leaving. Three of the four starters are leaving. We have Chauncey Golsan. We have Davian Nixon, who I think is going to fill in at one of the defensive tackle spots. From there, though, it's kind of hit or miss. There's a few guys vying for AJ Epinesa's role, and as we've seen in the past, when you don't have a player like AJ Epineza, Phil Parker does like to rotate that defensive line significantly. So I think that's an area where we might see a true freshman play a few snaps, a la Joe Evans, you know, in this season. I believe Joe Evans is actually a redshirt freshman, but either way, we're going to see potentially a freshman play a couple snaps at the defensive lineman position. Offensive line, I just don't see it. There's a lot of

younger guys who have already gotten some key snaps. I don't foresee a true freshman offensive lineman playing very much in this season. Wide receiver position, absolutely not. There are so many studs here at the wide receiver position, arguably the deepest wide receiver group that Iowa has ever had. And so it's going to be very tough to get on the field. That being said, after this upcoming season when multiple guys graduate, there could be some more opportunity, but not right now. Running back will be interesting.

Possibility maybe just because Iowa does like to rotate a lot of guys in and out. But you do have Makai Sargent still there you have Ivory Kelly Martin who is still with the Hawks kind of surprisingly and then you have obviously Tyler Goodson don't forget about Shadrick Bird either so I don't foresee a running back getting a ton of playing time as well probably in a red shirt the tight end position could be a spot we saw Sam Laporta come on last year late in the season they still do have Sean Byer and Josiah Myaman a few other walk-ons who play at that position as well. But we could see a tight end like Luke Leitchie or Elijah

Yelverton get some playing time. Elijah's already in camp right now. He's with the Hawks for this spring semester, getting some of that early playing time and getting familiarized with the playbook going into summer ball. And then at the quarterback spot, I think some fans would love to see Deuce Hogan play. You would love to see a guy that has been this hyped up get an opportunity to start his freshman year. I don't see it happening. Spencer Petras seems to be the guy who's pretty much locked into that spot. And that's not a bad thing.

He's a great kid, a four-star quarterback out of California, came from the same high school as Jared Goff, and I believe shattered a few of Jared Goff's records. So a guy that we should be pretty excited to see get on the field. Some of the things to keep note about this class, watch out for Brandon Dees-Fernandez, a guy who had no D1 offers before Iowa, just recently got bumped up to a three-star recruit, a Michigan kid. And if anyone's been watching Iowa recruiting over the past couple years, you know those Michigan corners can find themselves a pretty big spot in the Iowa defense. Just think about

Desmond King or Michael Ojemudia. Jay Higgins is also a guy to watch out for. A freaking tackling machine. Had 151 tackles in 10 games with 8 tackles for loss. Also had 329 receiving yards. So an athletic linebacker who can play really well, go downhill. It'll be fun to watch him. Like I said, I don't think he'll get a lot of playing time this year, but a guy to watch out for. And that tight end position continues to get an overhaul with two more recruits coming in. Almost got another one as well, but Luke Leitch and Elijah Yelverton, two guys who have had fantastic, fantastic film. I'm really excited to see them play. Definitely more of, you know, the receiving threats, but Iowa's going to turn them into well-rounded tight ends. I'm

really excited to watch that as well. And then obviously the cream of the crop, the top ready to recruit in the recruiting class of 2020 is Logan Jones, a multi-sport athlete that played basketball and is successful on the track and field, you know field arena as well. Got stolen right out of Nebraska's backyard, so you've got to love to see that. And then, like I said, the guys that we have on the show today, Tyler Ellsbury, Andrew Wilson. Ellsbury is a four-star offensive line from Byron, Illinois, a guy who I think will be a big component of the Iowa offensive line for years forward. And Andrew Wilson is a preferred walk-on,

a guy who, with preferred walk-ons, a guy who, you know, with preferred walk-ons, you love to see them join the team because you just never know what's going to happen with those guys. Even this past season, we saw Nate Weeding have a pretty solid season. He got invited to a postseason bowl. He's likely going to get a spot as a UDFA on an NFL roster, despite coming onto the team as a walk-on and working through a lot of highly rated recruits to get some playing time at that tight end position. So that being said, as far as the preferred walk-ons, we're going to get a full list of that likely at some point today

from the Iowa Hawkeyes. It's kind of tough to keep, a little bit tougher to keep track of, but should be getting that list from the Iowa Hawkeyes later this week and then, or later today, excuse me, and I'll be talking about that at another time. But that being said, that's enough of my preview of this class. I'm really excited about this class. But that being said, let's hop into some of our interviews, starting with Tyler Ellsbury, four-star offensive lineman from Byron, Illinois, the 208th rated player in the class, according to 24-7 Sports, had four other offers, three power

five offers out of those four, committed to Hawks in May of this year. And when I talk to him, I mean, this kid is just one of the big things, I think, when I've talked to most of these kids, they're mature beyond their years, and you can tell they understand the Hawkeye way. And in talking to him, I think you're going to really love to hear his attitude and his mantra. You know, he might be rated a four-star recruit, but he looks at it as if he still has to prove so much to this coaching staff and nothing is going to be given to him. And he's got to go in and work his tail off. And he knows that. He's a guy who has multiple brothers who have played college football. He understands what it takes to be successful at the next level. And I'm really excited about him

joining the Iowa Hawkeyes. Had a great time interviewing him. And you're going to enjoy that interview right now. So first question, what was your recruiting experience like? It was pretty slow at first, to be honest. I wasn't going to as many camps as what I probably should have and wasn't kind of doing the things at first that I needed to probably do to get college's attention. But once Iowa sent me their offer, their first school to offer me, it really kind of just skyrocketed after that.

It was really getting busy. I had coaches coming in, talking to my head coach, just getting pretty hectic. Coaches texted me when they could and stuff. So, I mean, it was fast, picked up really fast. Really enjoyed it, though. It was a great experience for me, you know, getting to meet new people and stuff, getting to just kind of see facilities and see why Iowa was the better fit for me. Absolutely, man.

And obviously, you know, you said it started a little bit slowly, but it ended up you finished as a four-star recruit. So what has that been like for you? You know, I kind of hear my hometown kids always come up to me and ask and stuff ask about you know what makes like a four star three star you know i i kind of just tell them that it doesn't really matter it's just kind of your high school ranking so to say so i mean the only thing that's going to matter is that when you get there how hard you work and whether you play or not you know so that's kind of what i tell the kids but uh obviously getting some publicity

around the area from being a four-star to you know just kind of having kids talk to me all the time you know maybe i don't know who they are sometimes but it's still it's still fun i love that attitude though i mean that's the perfect kind of attitude going into iowa they want guys who are going in they're willing to work their butt off despite whatever the rankings might say about them. So, man, as far as going to Iowa, what separated Iowa from the other offers you had? I know you had a couple other offers, but what kind of made Iowa stand out for you? Well, my dad is from Iowa, and my two brothers older than me were born in Iowa, so we kind of have family roots there.

That was kind of a big pull towards the area, but the campus, the campus was great. You know, there's not much, not much you're going to find that's better than that. Just how the coaches treated me. They weren't, they weren't like brown nose in me, you know, trying to just tell me everything that was good. They were honest. I liked that about them. I don't like to be sugar-coated. I like to hear how it is. So that's just what I prefer, and they did that, and that just struck home.

Absolutely. I mean, I've talked to a few other recruits in your class, Deuce Hogan and Elijah Elverton, and both of them said the same thing. They love the honesty that is portrayed by Iowa, and they understand that they are being very real with them and not, like you said, sugar-coating or brown-nosing up to you as far as the recruiting process goes. Yeah, it's a big aspect. Some coaches are out there and they try to brown-nose and tell you that

you're going to come here and you're going to start your freshman year and you're going to be able to fight, but they set it straight up. They're like, you're going to have to come in here and earn it you know we're not we're not saying you're gonna be guaranteed to be a stud here you gotta come and show what you got first so that's just kind of what struck home that's kind of how I was growing up without a doubt man so what are your goals going to Iowa what are your goals coming into your freshman year and what are your goals for your career at Iowa just you know make the coaches notice me you know June 6th is the report date. I've got to start left-hand working hard, and that's where it is.

You know, my goal is just to do what I can to help the team, whether that be starting or scout team or maybe not even on scout team. But I've just got to do my part, and everything will work out how it's supposed to. Definitely. So you have about five months, actually probably about four months, four and a half months at this point until your report. What are you looking to improve on between now and then? My flexibility, my hips and stuff, that's kind of a big thing for me.

I've focused on that a lot throughout my high school career. I was very, very stiff going into my junior and senior year, so I've been focusing on that a lot. And then my lateral speed and movement and being able to change directions really quickly because that's a huge aspect of the game on the offensive line. Yeah, man. So looking at some of your, obviously your metrics,

you're listed at 6'5", 292 pounds. On your 24-7 sports profile, you're listed as an offensive guard. Is that where you project at or is that where the coaches think you're going to be playing at or do they think you can move around and play tackle? What are they talking to you about as far as positions? They've said any position, tackle the tackle. Whatever the best fit for me ends up being, that's where they're going to throw me in at because I'm in between height and size that

I could really play all five positions. They've just told me you're going to come in here, work out, do the best you can and everything, and we're going to place you where we think is best for the team. That's how I'm approaching it, and that's fine with me. I love it, man. All right, so obviously, like I talked about, this is kind of a preview before National Signing Day.

Obviously, Iowa has most of their commits already locked up, already signed the National Letter of Intent. What was that day for you like? What is that feeling like for you up, already signed the National Letter of Intent. What was that day for you like? What is that feeling like for you when you finally signed that National Letter of Intent? It was overwhelming for me. I mean, it's been a dream of mine ever since I was little. I have four older brothers, so I've been picked on a lot and stuff. I wasn't always the best around sports around my house just because I was younger, less mature.

So it was overwhelming for me. A little teary-eyed when I was speaking up my speech and stuff but at the end of it it was just a great experience glad to glad to have signed then and not waited couldn't have imagined waiting to the day with all the anxiety and just the pressure of it but the day was special my family all came down had family come over from Iowa. Neighbors and stuff all showed up. My classmates kind of stayed after school. So it was a very special moment just to see everyone that came out and supported me. It was a big moment of my life.

Yeah, man, I bet. It sounds like an awesome experience and what a great day for you. And obviously congratulations on signing that national letter of intent and working so hard to get there. One of the things you touched on, though, that I have to ask, right? You're a big kid, right? So how big are your brothers if they were the ones picking on you? My oldest brother is 6'4", about 2'15".

He played football in college, had some pro day invites. My second oldest brother is 6'7", probably 2'10", 2'15", as well. He also played football in college. The one below him is 6'1", about 195. He just finished up his college career of playing football. The one below him, he's about 6'3", probably 175, 180. He's also playing football right now. Wow, I can only imagine the grocery bill for your parents is pretty high.

Oh, yeah. It's a lot of food around the house and everyone's home. So having those older brothers playing college football, has there been any wisdom that they've passed down to you or anything they've kind of told you to kind of expect coming into your first collegiate season? Absolutely. They always tell me how it's going to be on the first day,

that it's going to be totally different than when the coaches are out recruiting you. When the coaches are recruiting you, they're trying to be nice and formal and stuff. Dustin, my oldest brother's name is Dustin, he really pointed out that you're going to step out and practice that first day and you're going to hear words that you've probably never heard before. But all you've got to do is take it in as a learning experience and learn from it instead of putting yourself down. So that's about all the advice they gave me to work on,

and everything else will work out. Well, it sounds like you have the right mindset coming into your experience, especially being an Iowa Hawkeye. I have one last question for you, man. Have there been any guys in the class that you've really gotten close with so far? Obviously, it seems like Swarm 20 has a pretty close relationship all around. I'm curious, are there any guys in the class that stick out as some guys you've made friends with pretty closely already? Yeah, Jack Johnson, he's a preferred walk-on. Him, Isaiah Wenger, Josh Volk, we're all pretty good friends those are the guys

that have gotten close to you know new people that knew that I've met obviously Isaiah Bruce is like 40 minutes away from me we've we've been pretty good friends these past four years and stuff getting to know each other and then Andrew Wilson he's from Sterling Newman we've been we've been talking a lot and stuff since since he's decided he's gonna to come too. So I've kind of, it's not really just like one or two people I've gotten to know, you know, Mason Richmond and Elijah and all that. We all kind of just talk together. We're just pretty friendly, you know, not leaving anyone out.

Absolutely. I mean, speaking from a Hawkeye fan perspective, I think it's really cool to see the close ninnies of that group and the fact that it does seem like you all are kind of bonding pretty quickly despite not even, you know, being at school yet together so love to see that um obviously i don't want to take up too much of your time i just one last thing is there anything you want to tell hawkeye fans anything you want hawkeye fans to know about about yourself man um i'm just i'm just here to work hard uh have fun doing it and uh just i'm just gonna tell them all swarm 20 is coming, so be prepared.

Hell yeah, man. Well, Tyler, thank you again for your time. I appreciate it. I'm looking forward to seeing you in the black and yellow. Thank you so much for your time, and have a good night, man. Thank you. You too. Talk to you later, buddy.

Bye. All right, and that will do it with our interview with Tyler Elsberry. Again, a big shout-out to Tyler for taking the time out of his day to talk to me. Really appreciate it. I hope you got a little bit better knowledge about what Ellsbury is bringing to the Iowa Hawkeye program and really enjoyed that interview. We're going to take a quick break. And coming up, we're going to round out the episode with our last three interviews,

Andrew Wilson, Deuce Hogan, and Elijah Yelverton. We are back with the final segment of the Locked On Hawkeyes podcast, a little bit lengthier of an episode today, as I already told you coming up at the beginning of the show. So I hope you're enjoying it. I enjoy putting this together, a fantastic show that I think really gives you some insight into this class. And we're going to start with our interview with Andrew Wilson, a preferred walk-on. This past season, caught 22 passes for 395 yards and 6 touchdowns.

Also had 69 tackles and 4 interceptions. Joins the team as a tight end. Also played a little bit on the line this past season. Had an offer from Eastern Illinois and some D2 schools, but chose to walk on to Iowa. I think you're going to really enjoy this interview as well. So that's coming up right now. Andrew, thank you so much for joining the show. I really appreciate you taking the time out of your busy day. I know you're still going through school and probably workouts and whatnot. What has the recruiting experience been like for you? It's been really nice. Everything started to pick up around

like January of my junior year. That's when I got in contact with Iowa and a couple other schools. And then it slowed down a little bit towards the beginning of summer. And then one summer in the football season picked up, that's when recruiting also picked up. And then near October, Iowa offered me the preferred walk on. And then I kind of sat on it for a little bit and just waited the end of the season to make my decision. And then I decided Iowa was the place for me. Absolutely man and so you had an FCS offer to Eastern Illinois was it tough to turn that down? Uh it was a little bit I've ever since I've been little I've kind of known Iowa's place where I wanted to be but yeah once I got that Eastern offer I kind of thought about a little

bit but then I realized like what I've wanted since I've been a little kid. Just Iowa's a great place to be. Have you always been an Iowa Hawkeye fan then? Is that what I'm hearing? Yes, sir. My family's loved it since I've been little. Is your family from Iowa or just generally from the area? I have a lot of cousins that go to Iowa, but my sisters both go there. It's just been a family school pretty much. Makes sense. And Sterling's what, about an hour, hour and a half away? It looks like from on the map. Yeah, like hour 45, two hours. Not too bad. Nice. So did you grow up going to a bunch of Kinnick games? Yeah, whenever I could, I really got down there probably about once a year.

So yeah, it's been awesome. Awesome, man. And when you went on campus, what was that like going as a potential student athlete? What was that experience like walking around the campus thinking, man, I could actually play football here? It's been pretty crazy. I went there when I was little, like I said, and then just being there and looking at everything and then going now is like I can live that life. It's just like a whole different experience.

It's like a dream come true pretty much. Absolutely, man. And obviously a couple months before you joined the program, what are you most excited about as far as being an Iowa Hawkeye uh probably just being around all the guys and the coaching staff as well as getting like developed by uh the workout staff and all that and I can't wait to see like they make me reach my max potential yeah so what are you doing between now and then obviously uh are you playing multiple sports right now or are you just kind of working out in the weight room uh I used to play basketball but I took that off just kind of working out in the weight room? I used to play basketball, but I took that off.

Now I'm just focusing on the weight room, but then I am playing baseball in the spring. Absolutely, man. What position do you play? Outfield, shortstop, and then second base. You are a big shortstop, man. Yeah. At 6'4", you don't see many of those.

Did you have any interest from collegiate athletics playing ask you know collegiate athlete athletics playing baseball at all um no i did not i haven't really tried to get for college for baseball football has always been like my main love for sports i love him man so tell me a little bit about your game as far as you know playing tight end what do you bring to the table as a tight end obviously there's not a i couldn't find a ton of videos to to watch some of your plays so i want to get a sense from you as to what your game is like coming from a tight end. Yeah, so our school runs a wishbone offense, so we're like 85% run all the time. So I think the key thing I can bring is blocking to it, and then I'm definitely going to have to work on my route running and speed,

and hopefully they can make me better at that, and then I'll be more well-rounded. I love it, man. And obviously you know the mantra coming out of Iowa basically as a tight end you must you must know how to block so the fact you already have that down you're one step ahead of the game yes sir is that something they talked about as well obviously you probably you know seen Nate Weeding and his success at Iowa coming as a preferred walk-on and he really got in the field early on just because of his blocking abilities is that something they talked to you at all about uh yeah coach wallace mentioned that every once in a while he said that's a big thing that like my offense is basically all run so basically i block all the time i know how to

like read the zone blocks and work everything so he said that was a big key awesome man you know iowa has had a lot of success with preferred walk-ons was that was that even an easier sell for you knowing that going into Iowa, you're treated just like any other type of player? It doesn't really matter if you're a scholarship or not. The best player plays. Oh, yeah, that was a big thing. My family, like, that was one of the biggest things we did in our college decision.

And seeing guys like Sean Constein, kind of like a local guy, making, like, his success story was a really big feat. Definitely, man. And I know you're coming in as a tight end but Iowa does like to move players around it sounded like you played a little bit of defensive end in high school is that correct yes sir outside linebacker DN I love it so is there is there any opportunity potentially to switch over to the other side or is that something you'd be open to if they requested it I'd definitely be open to it coach Wallace mentions

a little bit about it but he said they're looking to keep me at tight end, but if they want to do that, I'd be more than happy to. Awesome, man. What current Hawkeyes have you kind of been in touch with during your recruiting experience? What Hawkeyes are you looking forward to most working with when you get there? Pretty much all the guys in my class, like Tyler, Luke Sven Ness, and all of them. I'm just really looking forward to getting on campus with them and start working with them. Definitely, man. Well, hey, dude, I really appreciate you taking the time out of your day. Is there anything you want to let Iowa Hawkeye fans know about you as a player, as a person?

Not at the moment. I'm just really looking forward to getting on campus. Definitely, man. What is it, like four months from now? Yes, sir. Awesome, man. Well, hey, Andrew, thank you so much for taking the time out of your day. from now? Yes, sir.

Awesome, man. Well, hey, Andrew, thank you so much for taking the time out of your day. Enjoy the rest of your four months at your hometown before you jump into Iowa Hawkeye camp, and we're really excited to see you as an Iowa Hawkeye buddy. Yes, sir. Thanks for having me. Absolutely, man. Have a good night. You too. Bye. Thank you. Well, again,

big shout out to Andrew. Thank you for joining the show. Loved having you on. Loved to hear your insight as to what it means to join Iowa as a preferred walk-on and why the program was the right one for you. Next up, we're going to go into the Elijah Yelverton interview. Again, this is an interview from a couple months ago, but I felt like with the new listeners we've had, you probably haven't heard the interview.

So we're going to head over to that interview right now. Elijah Yelverton is currently in camp with Iowa, so is not able to obviously do a newer podcast. But I think you're going to really enjoy listening to him again. Another very respectful kid, a kid who's going to do really well with Iowa Hawkeyes. He understands what it takes and had a ton of offers coming out of high school and chose to stick with Iowa no matter what. So that's coming up right now.

How did that play into your decision? You saw George Kittle become an All-Pro as a fifth-round draft pick. Noah Fantiti-Hawkinson, All-Americans, drafted in the first round. Did that have a big impact on your decision? It definitely had an impact. But me and my dad, even throughout the beginning of the season, we kept up and we liked Iowa. Iowa was always one of the season, we kept up. We liked Iowa.

Iowa was always one of the top schools. But I just kept going through the process. And then, like I said, a month and a half ago, I decided it's the right place for me, the right fit. I love the system and the coaches. I'm just ready to get after it. I love it, man. Well, we are excited to have you as an Iowa Hawkeye. I think I speak for all Iowa fans, especially when you committed.

We were pumped. One of the questions, and you don't have to answer this if you don't want to, but you are currently ranked a three-star recruit. And personally, I think that's kind of garbage. I mean, I've watched some of your tape. You play a lot of different positions. You're very versatile. And you received 36 offers. All right, so do you put any clout into that ranking or do you not care at all?

It doesn't bother me at all. I mean, I'm just blessed with the opportunity to get chances to go to the next level. And the way I see it is stars don't really matter. I mean, I made it. Once you get to college, stars don't mean anything. So that's the way I think about it, three stars. Okay, that's cool. You already have the great mentality coming into it. I mean, you saw what T.J. Hawkinson did as a three-star recruit out of a small town in Iowa.

Redshirt sophomore is now a top-ten draft pick in the NFL. So I love it, man. Oh, yeah. So real quick, obviously getting 36 offers, that's a pretty big deal. Was that a pretty humbling process, seeing all that love kind of come in for you? Oh, no doubt, for sure. Just seeing so many people pour their time into me and all the effort and just everything, it really made me appreciate things and appreciate my situation.

And it made me just think about the process and everything at another level. I love it. And who was your actual first offer coming from? So my first, there was one day I actually picked up three offers in the same day? within an hour so it was so I really

what a day I don't know which one was the first because Nebraska came to our school and they they pulled me out of the classroom and offered me. But Iowa coach called my coach and told him I had the offer. And then, so it's either between those two schools. I still haven't figured it out, but it's either Iowa or Nebraska.

That's awesome. Was the Nebraska offer from Scott Frost, or was it pre-Scott Frost? Yes, it was thorough. I love it, man. Well, I'm glad you became an Iowa Hawkeye. Obviously, if you follow any of the rivalries and whatnot, Nebraska is quickly becoming probably the most hated rival out of all Iowa rivals. So I'm glad you did not choose to go there.

Did not want to see you in the black and red. Oh, yeah, I know. I've heard a lot about it. Yeah, I love it, man. I've had some teammates that have gone there, so. Nice. They let me know. So speaking of your teammates, buddy,

so you actually have another teammate who is being recruited by Iowa, Brennan Scott. Have you talked to him at all about, you know, whether or not he's going to join the Hawks? Have you been kind of in his ear trying to give him some extra motivation to come up to Iowa City? I mean, it's been a process for both him and I. So, to be honest with you, I just let him do his thing. But I tell him, like, hey, let's make it happen. I mean, that would be awesome.

He's a hell of a player, so it would be great if he came. Yeah, make the transition a little bit easier for you, knowing someone coming in. Oh, yeah. And speaking of guys you know, so I actually had Deuce Hogan on the show a few weeks ago, and I actually asked about you. It was very well-timed.

I did not plan it, but very well-timed. I asked about his recruitment of you because he's a very active guy on Twitter, kind of letting everyone know they should come to Iowa, and I think it's great. And one of the guys, you know, obviously he was talking to was you, and so I asked him how much he talked to you and it sounded like, you know, a couple of times a month. Um, be honest with me now, was he in your ear a bunch? Was he kind of bugging you saying, let's go make this happen?

Uh, it wasn't bugging me cause I mean, we know, uh, we've got together what we could do and, uh, but no, we did talk, uh, probably a few times a month. Um, and he's like, hey, man, let's make it happen. You see what's happening right now. And just looking at all my other options, I'm like, he's a great quarterback. So it would be amazing to link up there and we can make something really happen. And so you guys actually play in a similar – so you're D1 and he is D2 in the Taps division or the Taps kind of area.

So how often do you see him play or how often do you guys actually link up in terms of football-wise? We haven't linked up yet. We actually – we talked about probably next weekend or in the following weekend, link it up and throw in some rounds or something and working out together, just building a connection. But as far as seeing each other play, we've been, I mean, Friday nights, so we haven't really gotten to see each other. But just after watching film and video he's real good absolutely i'm sure

uh i'm sure kirk and the guys up in iowa city love to hear that answer the fact that you guys are building that chemistry and that connection um over a year before you even begin your you know time in iowa city so that's that's pretty awesome Yeah, our plan is to come in and get straight to it, straight to business. Definitely. I mean, there's going to be some openings. Nate Stanley's going to be graduating. There's going to be some tight end spots open, so there's a good chance or an opportunity for you two to make an impact, and having that chemistry will be huge for you both.

Oh, yeah. No doubt. So tell me about the Iowa recruiting process. I mean, I've heard a lot about it. You know, obviously talked to Deuce, heard from other recruits, and then doing some, you know, research in and of myself and hearing from Kirk Ferentz and what he kind of believes in the recruiting process. You know, they believe in being very honest and upfront with guys,

you know, letting you know exactly how they feel about you and, you know, making sure it's a good fit for the both of you, not just for the Hawks. So tell me about that recruiting process, specifically with Iowa. What did you enjoy about it? Kind of what was your, like you said, you talked to your dad a lot about it, but what was kind of your thought process throughout the situation? Well, so, yeah, so I made sure Coach Vance and I, Coach Vance, his son, Coach, for our Kirk fans, we got on the phone probably once a week, and we would just talk about personnel and how to fit in

and just that type of stuff, just talk football. And we kept it simple, kept it straight, got straight to it. And so I know what it holds, and I think it was the perfect fit for me. I know what it holds, and it just, I think it was the perfect fit for me. And so, yeah. And then Coach Kirkfair, he gave me a call, and he was just asking how the recruitment process was going and everything and how my family was. And I was like, oh, it's going good,

but I actually wanted to call you tonight to say I was going to commit. And he was like, oh, really? I caught him off guard, and he was excited. I was excited. It was great just making it final and everything. That's awesome. I feel like he doesn't really get rattled very easy. I mean, he won.

I think he set the record for career wins this year, and he cried a little bit. He cried a little bit when Nick Easley was talking about him, but you don't really see him get rattled, but I can only imagine when he gave you a call, he was probably not anticipating that, and so you committing was awesome for him. Oh yeah, it definitely was. That was a great moment. I love him, man. So do you feel like you have a weight off your back at this point? You know, you're committed to Iowa. You're good to go.

Are you just kind of, do you feel like a breath of fresh air at this point? Like you kind of know what the next step is? Oh, for sure. You know, I had a lot during the recruitment process. A lot of coaches and everything, which I appreciate all the time and everything. But it was a lot of coaches and everything, which I appreciate all the time and everything, but it was a lot. So now just to narrow it down to one and just main focus on one

is definitely way off my back. Definitely, man. And so real quick, you talked a little bit about Brian Ferenc calling you and talking to you about personnel and how you kind of fit into that. When I watched your tape, man, you move around all over the place, and I'm assuming that's just high school football

and wanting to make sure they get the best athletes and the best players the ball. But I saw you play in line. I saw you split out wide. I saw you play H-back and also a little bit of defensive end. So do you pride yourself on that versatility? And what has the Iowa coaching staff talked to you about? little bit of defensive end um so do you pride yourself on that versatility and you know what has the Iowa coaching staff talked to you about because I'm assuming you know as well that you know they they're really open to moving guys around if they see a better fit and that usually

works out pretty well so what you know do you do pride yourself on that versatility and do you see yourself as a tight end first and foremost oh yeah definitely yeah, definitely. Definitely tight end. I mean, I got some good clips on defense, but mainly it's just I'm going to Iowa to be a tight end. But, yeah, you can put me hip behind the tackle. You can bring me in line. You can move me outside, move me to slot. I think that's what's caught the eye of a lot of people, is just my versatility, speed for my size, and just power, and just being a athlete,

I guess. Absolutely, man. So have you actually been clocked in the 40-yard dash before? To be honest, the last time I did it was my freshman year because I started playing baseball, and they started doing that, and I'm out at a game an hour away. Yeah, no worries. All good. I mean, I'm sure whatever it is right now is going to improve even more when you get in the weight room with Chris Doyle, man. Oh, yeah, no doubt.

So what is your ideal college playing weight? I'm assuming the coaches have talked to you a little bit. It sounds like based off the recruiting profile, you're around 225 pounds. Is that what you're currently at? And where do you foresee yourself growing to? Especially, you have a tall frame, man. So what kind of weight do you plan on playing at? growing to especially you know you have a tall frame man so what what kind of weight do you plan on playing at uh yeah i'm still currently 225 uh i'm trying to get up to 230 uh before season maybe 230 35 for the senior season and then uh what season ends that short period before i head up to iowa uh probably i'll probably say 235 and then get up there. And I'm pretty sure during that spring season they'll get me up to probably 245.

I think that's what our goal is so far. Well, hey, Elijah, thank you so much, buddy. It was nice talking to you. I'm excited to see you play in the black and yellow, and I'll be rooting for you this high school season. And hopefully Bishop Dunn can go win another state championship, buddy. Yes, sir. Appreciate it.

Awesome. Talk to you later, pal. All right. Have a good one. You too. Bye. Bye. All righty then.

We are going to wrap it up with our final interview of the episode. We have four-star quarterback Deuce Hogan. He holds 12 offers. Was the, I believe, the first commit in the class of 2020, committed back in June of 2018. He threw for 2,262 yards and 30 touchdowns in his senior season and finished his high school Texas career with 8,099 yards and 100 TDs. As I've said multiple times, this kid's got an incredible head on his shoulders. I've enjoyed talking to him. Makes me almost feel like I'm the immature one, considering the

big age gap here. That's pretty impressive. Very respectful kid who I'm so excited to watch play for the Iowa Hawkeyes. You're going to love this interview as he kind of gets into the nitty gritty about what he's doing to work on his game as he prepares to join the Iowa Hawkeyes this summer and also talk about what it means to be a part of the Iowa Hawkeyes this summer and also talk about, you know, what it means to be a part of the Iowa Hawkeye program. So that is coming up right now. All right, Deuce, thank you again for jumping on the show. Obviously a second time returning guest and we really appreciate your time. I know you're a busy guy. How are you doing today, man? I'm doing awesome. Thanks for having

me. Absolutely, man. Like I said, we had a blast having you on i know the fans really loved hearing from you and hearing your perspective i'm heading into your senior season it has been probably about a year since we talked maybe about nine ten months so a lot has changed since then the uh the last time we talked you were months away from your senior season i know the end result wasn't exactly what you wanted but how would you assess your senior season? Well, I mean, I believe we finished with nine wins, maybe ten wins. And so we didn't reach our end goal in terms of bringing home a state title, but a nine-win season is nothing to ever complain about. So I think we had a lot of success. It was a whole lot of fun.

So I don't think we weren't able to win a state title, but it was still very successful. Absolutely, man. And I'm glad you obviously had a fun lot of fun. So I don't think we weren't able to win a state title, but it was still very successful. Absolutely, man. And I'm glad you obviously had a fun time with that. I know high school football, especially out in Texas, can produce some incredible memories when you're playing with your brothers. So was it a pretty surreal experience to play with them for the final time? For sure.

Yes, sir. It's like it doesn't matter how many people tell you you can't prepare yourself for it or it goes so fast. You can only experience it once you've been there. So I feel like I did an adequate job in terms of preparing myself. I knew it was coming. When you put everything you have into the game, you can't really regret it. But, yeah, it was really special because these are guys that I've been with

since we were in elementary school together. That's incredible. And speaking of the preparation piece, right, we talked about it prior that you were preparing for your senior season, ready to kind of commit yourself to your final season of high school football. And as we discussed, you're not enrolling early. And we talked about that at length on the last show, and I think it makes a ton of sense.

And it's an incredibly mature decision on your part. With that being said, though, what are your goals for the next few months until you ultimately report to Iowa City? Yeah, I mean, I handle like basically any other offseason. I just begin to better myself, whether that's, you know, mechanically throwing or I'm in the weight room. So they've sent me workouts that I am doing right now. It's a four-day-a-week lift. And so I really, I don't get the opportunity to familiarize myself with the playbook quite yet um but i think what's the biggest like downside of not enrolling early

uh but just control what i can control i'll definitely be throwing definitely be doing the list that they sent to me so absolutely man and um one of the guys you actually played a little bit of catch with earlier um actually i think it was back in june or july was jason whitton i know you probably talked about this a bit, but can you just describe kind of how that even happened and how cool of an experience that was? Yeah, so me and Mr. Witten, I actually, like probably my sixth or seventh year, I got invited to the beach with a buddy, and a friend of mine, his mom takes pictures for a bunch of NFL athletes.

And then I kind of built relationships down in Florida and I really hit it off with the nephew of the Seattle Seahawks offensive coordinator, Brian Schottenheimer. His nephew is like one of my brothers now. We're very, very, very tight. And so every year, the same group goes down for the week of the 4th. You've had really big names down there, like Aitman and Schottheimer and Wittens. We've kind of been hanging out with them and playing catch with them for more than this year, for the last couple of years actually.

For the first time ever, Mr. Witten came to me and was like, Hey Deuce, is there any way you could throw for me? Like for a workout. I was like, I got goosebumps when he asked me. I was like, of course. There's nothing I like more than that. I'm a diehard Cowboys fan. We've had a relationship.

I've known him for probably four or five years. But yeah, that was pretty special. That is quite the honor, man. I can only imagine the thought process going through your mind of, holy cow, this NFL player is asking me to throw passes for him. And not as a ploy or anything. It was like truly for a workout, which is awesome. Yeah, it was the real deal.

It was pretty awesome. And, yeah, I saw that tape, and I was pretty excited for you, man. Thank you. Another thing the Iowa hawkeye fans are pretty excited about is this 2020 recruiting class i'm obviously led by you you were a big uh catalyst for this class i know you did a lot of recruiting on twitter and i thought it was pretty great seeing you kind of chime in on anyone who was even remotely considering iowa and you know obviously the results you know speak for themselves so i wanted to get your thoughts on this 2020 recruiting class and how excited you are to begin working together with your future brothers, man. I mean, the guys around me are incredible.

It's like, it's Twitter, so everyone's going to tweet and everyone's going to kind of shoot their shot. I didn't recruit these guys. It's the Iowa football program. I mean, anybody that gets there and gets on campus, then I feel like I get to do my job and just reach out and try to build a relationship. But the way that Iowa football recruits is truly incredible. And, I mean, it's hard to step on campus and walk away not loving it.

And I know that that's not the only place in the country, and I understand that people can like other places and love other places too, but I know that the way that the coaches handle themselves, the way that they are just super real with you, like, that's attractive. So I know I get a lot of props for recruiting on Twitter, but I just want to point it all to the Iowa football system, the coaches. I mean, what they do makes my recruiting job, quote, unquote, easy. So that's that.

And in terms of getting, like, to campus with these dudes, I can't wait. Uh, it's, I've told people this before. I will recruit people. It's not just how fast you can run 40. Uh, so when we take our OVs, it's like a bunch of really good dudes that are all hanging out, are all on the same mission. So, um, but so, I mean, everyone knows the talent. But, I mean, everyone knows they're talented. But the type of people they are is what, like, is really attractive. I can't wait for those relationships to be able to really grow. Definitely, man. I mean, we're all excited to see you, to jump on, and all the guys come onto campus. I actually spoke with Tyler Elsberry.

His interview will be showing on the same day as this one as well. He said the same thing, though. He loved the realness of the staff. Talking to Elijah, he also loved how honest the staff was. And I know when I talked to you last time, a big piece of that was the fact that they weren't trying to blow smoke up your dress. You know what I mean? They were being honest with you and being real with you,

which I think is a really cool testament to the Iowa football program and something that Iowa fans can really appreciate about the program, that they do it the right way. Right, for sure. Awesome. Just a couple more questions. What was it like playing in the International Bowl and obviously winning the MVP award? It was awesome. You know, I had some opportunities to play, you know, the Under Armour, Adidas.

A couple people from the top of that, those associations, reached out to me and stuff. But I wasn't really sure, you know sure how it was all going to go down. And then I got a DM from the guy that runs the U.S. national football team. He basically told me what they were all about. And for me, the idea of being able to represent the USA, wear that on my jersey, and put on some good stars and stripes. I have a lot of military family so that was really awesome to me and I mean that's the thing kind of like I don't know since it was

people you weren't going to have a bunch of dudes that were going to be there on chess there it was a bunch of people that wanted to represent their country that have played for that bowl before and it really was it wasn't about the individual it was about the name on your chest and that that was special so we kind of went out there, just played football, and the MVP was something that came along, that wasn't really what we were looking for, but most importantly, we won, and it was an awesome experience. I bet, man, putting on the red, white, and blue would be a pretty surreal experience for sure.

Yeah, and they treated us awesome, they took care of us. I love it, man. Awesome, and obviously a great opportunity for kind of one of your last you know last football games before going to Iowa which leads me to my last question what are your goals in year one as a Hawkeye year one yeah I mean year one and obviously your whole career as well if you want to touch on that I just feel like that's a pretty uh pretty big question so i figured i'd start small and leave it there yeah let's let's start with year one okay um and it's just be the best i can be um and play whatever role the team needs you to play i know that traditionally coach stash doesn't have a

bunch of freshmen that come in and start you know um and but i do know on the other side that if i'm the best quarterback on roster that i'll get to touch the field um and so it's less about playing time it's less about you know if i'm red shirt or something like roster that I'll get to touch the field. So it's less about playing time. It's less about, you know, if I'm redshirt or something like that, it's hard for me to say I want to go win a national championship, right? And so I think when people ask this, my normal answer is just succeed at the highest level wherever I'm put. So if I end up winning the starting job, if it's a backup job, if I'm redshirt and I'm building relationships, just being the best practice player I can be,

I just want to step in and make the program better. And I know that one of these days I'll have my opportunity to be the guy that starts for the Hawkeyes. But whether or not that's next year definitely will not change how I work or what I'm trying to bring to the table. Definitely, man. You can only control what you can control, and I think you're going with the perfect mindset, dude. Thank you. I appreciate that absolutely well deuce um i've taken up plenty of your time um obviously the second time you've been on the show and i know you're a busy guy just got back from a fun hunting trip so um any last things do you want to say to iowa hawkeye

fans before we close out the show no i mean y'all are the best hawkeye nation y'all are incredible i brag on y'all all the time best fan base base in the country. So I can't wait to get there. I love it, man. Well, thank you, Deuce, and have a great rest of your week, man. All right, and a big shout-out to Deuce for taking the time out of his busy day. I know he's been dealing with a lot of different interviews and whatnot over the course of his career and especially the last year, and yet he's taken the time to talk to me twice during that time.

And it means the world. Obviously, I really appreciate it, and I'm really excited to see what happens in his career. I hope you enjoyed the interview and got a chance to see kind of what the potentially a future starting quarterback for the Iowa Hawkeyes has to think about the program and what he is bringing to the team. So hope you loved this jam packed recruiting episode for Swarm 20. Let me know your thoughts. If you love the show, make sure to give us a five star review on iTunes, on Spotify, Google Podcast podcast or the himalaya podcast app and make sure to follow us on facebook twitter and instagram we're gonna be dropping you know different things and nuggets every single day as much as we can especially while i'm out that's the only way i'll be

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