Locked On Hawkeyes - Daily Podcast On Iowa Hawkeyes Football & Basketball - EXCLUSIVE: Ben McCollum INTERVIEW with Revelations About Iowa Basketball | Will His Strategy TRANSFORM the Program?

Episode Date: July 15, 2025

Iowa Hawkeyes basketball enters a new era with Ben McCollum at the helm. Can the former Drake coach's winning formula translate to Big Ten success?McCollum dishes on his whirlwind transition, recruiting strategies, and key additions like versatile forward Trey Thompson. He breaks down the potential of transfers Bennett Sturts and Trev, while explaining his approach to non-conference scheduling. The new coach also reveals how he's blending his Drake success with Iowa's existing talent to build a competitive culture.Tune in for exclusive insights on McCollum's vision for Iowa basketball and how he plans to navigate the challenges of the Big Ten.Follow Trent Condon on X: https://twitter.com/trentcondonLISTEN TO THE PODCAST: APPLE: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/locked-on-hawkeyes-daily-podcast-on-iowa-hawkeyes-football/id1441592240SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/0GTyz5ygevcGXdTF6QSoEoYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/LockedOnHawkeyesSupport Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!GametimeToday's episode is brought to you by Gametime. Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONCOLLEGE for $20 off your first purchase. Terms and conditions apply.Monarch MoneyTake control of your finances with Monarch Money. Use code LOCKEDONCOLLEGE at www.monarchmoney.com/lockedoncollege for 50% off your first year.FanDuelRight now, new customers can get ONE HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS in BONUS BETS when your first FIVE DOLLAR BET WINS! Download the app or head to FANDUEL.COM to get started. Bet with FanDuel—Official Partner of the NBA.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN)

Today we got the new head coach of Iowa men's basketball Ben McCollum joins us on today's Locked On Hawkeyes. You are Locked On Hawkeyes, your daily podcast on the Iowa Hawkeyes. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Hey welcome in I'm Trent Condon and this is the Locked On Hawkeyes podcast. Thanks for making Locked On Hawkeyes your first listen every day. Joined today by Ben McCollum,

the new head coach for the Iowa basketball team as he makes his way through his first summer in Iowa City. As the head coach, of course, I did a little bit growing up. Coach, good to see you again once today. Introductory press conference. We talked on the radio one time, but now seeing you in person. Good to see you. Yeah. Great to be here. Appreciate you having me on. Well, it is a busy time for you. Evaluation period is happening here in July. You got the AU circuit. I know you and your staff have

been all across the country here looking for the future of Iowa basketball. When we go from the open evaluation back in spring, you get the job, hit the ground running, putting a class together. I mean, have you had a moment to breathe yet? Or have you had that moment where you can just sit back and say, man, I'm the head coach of the Hawkeyes? No, I don't think I've breathed in about a year and a half, so close to a year. So no, you know, you just kind of get to the next thing. You just work. That's the nature of this profession is the second you relax too much, somebody else is passing you.

So, um, you know, we just worked. The only surreal moment was probably like the fight song. Um, you know, when you, that was played for my introduction, it was like, wow, that's, that's what I used to listen to as a kid. And then we were out at the lake the other day and we were playing catch with an Iowa football. And it's like, no, we are the Hawkeyes. So, you know, there's like a few strange things that happen like that.

But other than that, it's just work, business as usual, and we've got a good group and we're working hard, so it's been fun. You mentioned, I mentioned the evaluation period that's happening and let's I guess we're going to start with a little recruiting here is that's the time of year that you're definitely going through. Went through summer workouts with the group and all those things but you're going after a different caliber of player now. You know the relationships are not as embedded as maybe you know some other coaches that have been on the scene for a while that have been in the Big Ten or at the Power Four level lately.

Are you playing catch-up at all? Or is it just, hey, let's get these relationships going? How quick can you do that and maintain and build the relationships with different prospects? Yeah, you do play a little bit of catch-up. I think it's more just the scene itself, where you're in one scene, which is the Division two scene, then you're in the mid major. And then obviously, you're in the power power

five scene as well, the high major scene. And so you just have to you have to work a little bit harder to catch up. And then once you catch up, then you know, you're in that even at Drake probably took us about five, six months to really catch up and to get our feet underneath of us and know all the places we need to go and know all the prospects and then know all the coaches associated with that. So we're still doing that. You just have to go out a little bit more. You have to call a few more people, that sort of thing.

But outside of that, it's not shockingly different. Speaking of recruiting, want to go to the latest Hawkeye and Trey Thompson, kind of the most newsiest item here, at least recently on that front. A kid that reclassifies, a guy that you had to create a relationship very quickly with. Now, before we kind of get into Trey a little bit, I want to go here. So you guys had a media availability a couple weeks beforehand. You're talking about, we're still looking, we can look at Euros. You threw a reclassify in there. Are you going to throw us those little crumbs all the time? Is that something that, you know, me as a provocateur, that I need to be listening to those press conferences a little bit closer, because every once in a while, maybe you might be sprinkling some things in there for us to keep our

eye on. Yeah, I mean, I wish I could say I was that prophetic, but prophetic. But yeah, we, no, we just, that's just what you have to look for at that point. You know, I mean, there's a few maybe still left in the portal. There's some international prospects. And then obviously, then there's the refl classification, which you've seen teams do. You know, they're emotionally matur able to handle it um and then obviously the physi

well. So um you know, we I just think for us the it is with mostly high school kids and and Not all of them, you know, we do like some transfers and and so when you have the opportunity to get somebody Of his caliber. I think you need to make sure that you take it Trey as a prospect power forward Is that what you guys look at and just positionally as a whole? I I think i've heard you say in the past, you know, you don't look at it one through

five that kind of thing, but kind of how he fits and and is it a guy that you believe even as someone that should be a high school senior that's gonna be able to help the team right away this year? Yeah, it's really whatever teams, whatever kids can guard and so for him specifically, you know, I call them I just kind of created my own name for for his type of position. It's more of like a hybrid where they're not really a big and they're not, you know, really a point guard. And so they're kind of right in between all of that. And because they

can post but yet he can play on the perimeter dribble shoot pass, he can shoot on the move. He can do so many things and then he can also trigger offense, meaning he can get to the next action very, very quickly cuz he's a high processor. So I think he's physically ready. Obviously, you still gotta build your body a little bit more. And then emotionally, I think he'll be able to handle the rigors of the Big Ten. And he's a good basketball player.

He doesn't necessarily have to come in day one and average 25 points. He can come in and play off of people for a little bit, learn how to trigger the offense, get himself going and make himself a lot better player than he would have in high school. Saw a clip of him playing against Iowa United and a big guy over there. I know he can't talk about him, but yeah, he held his own in that one. And that was definitely an eye-opener for me.

I've been able to handle somebody like that. Well, as we're talking about the youngsters, let's dig in a little bit more. Now I got to go to Trev next. So I don't know, Coach, if you remember, called a lot of your son's games, walk you to Northwest, a lot of Valley games as I do high school basketball here in the radio in Central Iowa and I saw Trev over the

last three years probably 25 times in person so I've seen a ton of them. I believe he's a guy that can help right away. What are your guys' thoughts and being committed to you and I making that phone call and trying to get him to flip to become a Hawkeye. Take us into the process of the West Des Moines Valley product. Yeah, so I thought that when we recruited him at Drake. I just thought, and he committed so early, and then I think he went out to Peach Jam and played really well. But at that point, he had been committed to UNI.

And I think it's fairly decently documented that his number one school all along was the University of Iowa. That's where he wanted to be, outside of UNI. Then he chose UNI because that was the scholarship that he had and they did a great job of recruiting him. Coach Jacobson is awesome and their whole staff is excellent. And so, fast forward, I saw him throughout the year, I think he grew an inch or two. And we ended up getting this job and it took kind of a big risk by calling his coach with nothing. And just saying, hey, I'd like to just talk to Iowa.

That's the only school I really want to talk to. If they say no, I'd still like to come to UNI is my understanding as to how it went, but I'm not totally sure. And, you know, I ended up calling. We made sure he had his release and then, you know, the rest is history. And then he came here. I do think he can play, you know, just because of his skill set, his ability to pass, he's got great size, his physicality. He's catching up, you

know, defensively. I think that's going to be the hardest thing, just trying to find a way defensively to be up in coverage, where in the past he's been back in coverage, just some of those things in, you know, ball screen coverage and stuff like that. But smart kid, great kid, not surprising, but you would be surprised at how hard he, he works, you know, cause usually, you know, 6'11", 250, 255, whatever he is, it's difficult for those guys to, to just come in with an extreme work ethic.

And he's got that. He works hard. So we're definitely excited about him. I'm going to love coaching him for the next few years. Great family too. And got to know the family throughout the years and really excited to see Trevin Yurok playing for the Hawkeyes coming up this year. What other freshmen is Tate Sage? And this is a guy we kept waiting, right? Because it looked like he was gonna deep commit for Drake, follow you along, and we're just waiting for that press release, and we're waiting, waiting, waiting,

and it finally happens. He's kind of been that buzz guy, you know, open practices that the media's been able to be a part of. His name continues to come up. Tell us a little bit about Tate and your expectation for him, a guy that certainly has got the size and the shooting ability to be an impact player. Yeah.

No, I mean six, seven, um, but you know, probably I guess six, six and a half. It can, can really shoot it. Um, knows how to play off people, meaning, uh, I think in high school, we averaged maybe 13, 14 points and it, and it's, it was, it was good basketball, not great basketball. And so you're like, well, you should average 25 if you're at the power five level. But that really wasn't his, like that's not his niche. I mean, his is his ability to pass and play with other really, really good players and play off of him. So as he translates levels, his role doesn't

shockingly change. And so it's able, you know, he's able to adapt very, very quickly, very smart, just a smart, high IQ basketball player that can really shoot it and finish at the rim, a lot more athletic than you would assume, than you would think. And so he's had a good summer so far. He had one of his better days, you know, like, you know, three, four days would assume and then you would think. And so he's had a good summer so far. He had one of his better days, you know, like three, four days ago, and then didn't have his best day yesterday. So we're still a freshman, still work in progress, but we're getting him there. Finally, your son, Peyton, and you know, when it happened,

the decision that Peyton was gonna join you, you know, there were a lot of people that were upset. It had nothing to do with you or Peyton. It was just kind of the scar tissue that had been built up with coaches' kids throughout the last few years at the University of Iowa. You know, before that, you being a Hawkeye fan, even before you became a Hawkeye coach,

I'm sure you knew the back history behind it. Take us in a little bit of the decision and knowing that it was gonna rankle some people. Yeah, you know, I think at this level, level and this is the benefit and I've said this in other interviews, the benefit of me being at Division two for for quite a while is I was able to make decisions and you would have some repercussions from it and you'd have some people that were upset. It wouldn't be as shocking as it is this level. And you know, so I I've gotten pretty good at paying attention

to enough to make sure that we're trending the right direction, but not paying attention to where it impacts your ability to make the decision you need to make. And so, specific to him, not all instances are the same. And I think as a society, we try to create that where he took his son and it didn't work out, and took his son and did work out and whatever it may be. Specific to Peyton, right now he's not our hardest worker.

He's one of, probably close to our hardest worker. Him, maybe Bennett's in there quite a bit. And just from a toughness, from a defensive perspective, going against Bennett every day, he's been fantastic. Attitude wise, already knows exactly what to expect. I think he's our second leading plus minus guy, meaning I think Bennett's our best in regards to plus minus and Peyton's our second best right now.

So he's been doing good. Going into the decision, he was going to play for us at Drake and I think had some kind of low major stuff, but ended up, it's like, well, I'll just go play for my dad. And that sounds like a fun deal. And so it really helped our culture. It really impact that in a lot of ways. And, you know, it's just got to keep working, keep fighting and find his niche. You mentioned Bennett Sturtson,

obviously his decision to come with you from Drake, I think changes the equation for this team and the expectation level, not just here in the state of Iowa, but both regionally and nationally raises up with him, seeing him pop up on those draft boards already for next year. And another guy that continues to kind of be a summer buzz guy. It feels like in that circle, getting Bennett to come along with you and the ability that he could have been in the open market, maybe one of

the highest paid players in college basketball next season. Um, how you brought him along and where you are as he kind of leads this team in your number one. Yeah, it was, it's not very difficult to bring him along. You know, both spots was just a probably 10 second conversation and that was that. Yeah, I mean, you know, with him, he's just developed so well and he's kept that edge, that hunger that he wants, that he has, even just not being recruited to any division once.

And so, I mean, he didn't have a single division one offer and he had a lot of schools come in to watch him. And that goes for a lot of the kids that we brought to Drake with us and then they won 31 games. And so, with him, I think as long as he keeps progressing the way that he is, I think that even in the NBA, he's almost a better player in the NBA just because of the space and they actually call fouls.

Whereas, in college, it's just such a physical game. Not that the NBA is not super physical, but they're just gonna call more fouls because they want more offense and etc. And so he's just, he's as good a kid and even probably a better kid than he is a player. He's in here every morning, right now he's shooting right now. And that's two hours before practice.

And so he's worked at it, hopefully he'll be really good for us. And obviously kind of lead the way in regards to just his ability to play make. I'm excited about this season for a number of reasons. And I think number one is my expectation level as a fan, when I take my media hat off is bringing that group of guys with you from Drake where so many times that you're number one not only are you trying to figure out how the pieces all

come together but you're also creating that culture and you've been such a culture coach you know people talking about you back in your days in Northwest Missouri State this past season at Drake culture such a huge part of it you got that core group of guys that know exactly how you want to play how much easier do you believe it's going to be and well you really went through it a year ago at Drake so you kind of are able to hit the ground running that way. Just knowing so many guys in this program know the way that you want them to play. Yeah, you know, I think it's a big advantage and we learned that at Drake and we didn't know

what was going to happen, you know, to be perfectly honest. I mean, we brought those guys in and I mean, we brought those guys in and we knew Bennett obviously was going to be plenty good enough to play at that level. You know, Isaiah, Dan and Mitch, even they would probably say the same like, well, do you think I can play at this level? Do you think we can win at this level? So when we brought them in, it was like, you know, we're here to establish some culture. We're here to build for the long haul and I'd love for you to be a part of it and take this challenge on.

Well then we realized, you know, just a scrimmage in it was like, it's not that, like the top end players at Division II could have played it at the mid-major level. And we kind of realized that pretty quickly, but on top of that, they know the system so well. And at this level, very few teams have system guys. They don't have guys in their program for very long. And so it's very difficult to get them going early in the season. And it's also difficult for them to be, to have a level of relentlessness and toughness

to them just because the program doesn't mean as much because they're there for however long. To answer your question, fast forward to this year. Same concept. One, we did want guys with corporate knowledge, as they would say, because it does speed the process up drastically. The second part of that is, if you look at some of the better teams in the country, even Florida for instance, where they had a lot of mid-major talent, and then obviously they had some good high school kids,

they won the national championship with it. The benefit with us is, we took our mid-major talent from a 31-win team. But because it's our team or was our team, it doesn't seem as cool. But they're a 31-win team. They know the system, and we took them here. And so we're pretty excited about that and excited to be able to get them, to get our program going a lot quicker so that we can establish that culture so that we can continue it for

the future and have continued success. Non-conference schedule. We haven't got the release yet with everything on there. We know most of the schedule at this point in time. First how close are you to finalizing the non-conference schedule? And then secondly, how do you get into it? I heard you talk in time. First, how close are you to finalizing the non-conference schedule? And then secondly, how do you get into it? I heard you talking numbers. I'm a numbers guy myself.

And so I got a little excited there. I don't wanna say gaming the system because that has a negative connotation, but there is a system in place and we've seen a lot of programs be able to do that to manipulate the net in a different way. So take us into the two parts of that. Yeah, a schedule we still have, I think we've

got one more to go. They had quite a bit scheduled, not quite a bit, I guess they had the pattern of the schedule out. And so we ran into a few things with our MTE that we're trying to fix. And anyway, long story there, but you know, you're trying to make it your own schedule while continuing with the schedule that was already in place. And so it's been a little bit tricky, but scheduling and recruiting are probably the two trickiest things at this level, just getting your schedule right and trying to predict the future essentially. You know, it's tough. I almost wish that you would just be not even forced, but you'd have to play a certain amount

of power fives, meaning just like you can schedule all power five and it not necessarily hurt against you, work against you. I'd almost prefer that. I think it's just better that way, coming from a mid-major, of course. But I do like the fact that you do get those upsets and you're able, like we were really fortunate to be able to play K-State,

we were fortunate to play in the Charleston Classic. And I think that does help college basketball quite a bit, so I understand it. So then how do you then make an NCAA tournament? I don't know, it probably changes year to year depending upon who they want in the NCAA tournament. And so usually it's been quad ones and that's what they go off of.

You'd see the little thing quad one wins. And last year it said quad one, quad two wins which didn't make a lot of sense, you know, all of a sudden it's changed the formula. And so then you're going off of your net ranking. So how do you impact the net? Well, net does have a component where you have to beat teams by a certain amount of points. So then on top of all that, you need to make sure that your team has some confidence going in. So like when we were at Northwest Missouri State, when we used to schedule, we would schedule

a couple NAIA teams to make sure that we could get everybody in the game, to make sure that we could build some of our confidence and work on things that you wouldn't necessarily use against a top five division two team. And so threw a lot at you there. Love it. So there's yeah, there's no like, clean formula. I know that I get a lot of people get upset about us not, you know, playing Drake or or you and I, which I totally get because I love playing K State and it was awesome and stuff like that. I think if it eventually gets to where those games benefit you quite a bit, we would certainly love to play those games. And it's from a net ranking from an NCAA tournament from that thing. So scheduling's tricky and

there's a lot that goes into it. Final thing get you out on this speaking of you mentioned the MTE you guys are in this year You and I is also involved in that one. We'll see how the schedule shakes out there. However, um Maui, you know a place that Iowa hasn't been in a long time I think last time they were out there was with wood-bearing to sell in that group That was out there great Alaska shootout used to be a big thing As you know growing up in the 90s as I did, when Chris Kingsbury was knocking down threes against Duke and Yukon. When it comes to the MTEs,

you got the Players' Era Festival that is happening again in Vegas for year number two. That's also a financial component. Maui, some of the bigger tournaments, heading down to the Battle for Atlantis, those kind of things. Is that something that's at the forefront, something that you're thinking about

when it is putting together those non-conference schedules going forward? Yeah, it is. You know, I'm curious as to see where MTEs go because I don't think we're forced to next year. I might be mistaken on that, but I need to confirm that. And I think we bounced out to, what is it, 32 games at this point.

And so, yeah, I don't know where it's gonna go. And so we're trying to piece that together and figure that out before we schedule. I would love to play in those deals. I love to play really good teams. I love to play power five competition for the most part as long as it benefits you. I think that's the tricky part is if they could adjust the schedules to where it's just

like, no, you're planning the schedule. I'd almost prefer that, just give you the schedule to start. But those events are fun for fans. For coaches, all you're doing is watching film in a hotel with, with, you know, overlooking the ocean. It's about the only difference. So, but the, the fans love it. I think the players like it, probably don't love it just because you don't really get to enjoy it as much. But those are some things that, that we're going to make sure that we look at in the future. Well, coach, really appreciate your time today. A lot of great information and getting us excited for Iowa basketball coming up in the 2025 26 season.

Enjoy all the events all around the country and we'll be talking to you again soon. And I believe we're going to be hearing you again soon here as you guys have some immediate availability later today. Absolutely. Well, thanks a lot for having me coming up here for it. I got my radio show my radio show. I got to talk to James. We got to move that thing around so I can get James right. Get him dialed in. Alright, we'll talk to you soon, coach.

Alright, thanks Trent. Thanks again to head coach Ben McCullum joining us here on the Lockdown Hawkeyes podcast. Great stuff out of him. Tons of great information. A lot of non-conference talk which I really enjoy. And I think you everyday listeners certainly know that about me. We continue on the Lockdown Hawkeyes podcast. Time to take a look at Iowa football as we continue. We're back with more in a moment. Today's episode is brought to you by Game Time. We've all been there logging on early, waiting forever for concert tickets to go on sale only to lose your spot for a show you've been dying to see. Live music should be about making memories, not dealing with the stress of ticket shopping.

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Trying to kind of back with you one final time on the Locked On Hawkeyes podcast. So a quick peek here at Iowa football. We're going to dive in on tomorrow's show. The roster changes for two thousand twenty six. We're going to get into the guys that have gained weight, how much bigger they got, guys that lost weight, there's a couple of those also. And we'll talk about that on tomorrow's show. A big thanks again to Ben McCullum for joining us here today. And the information that

he was able to give us on the freshmen coming in, I thought was really good. And some of the thought process behind what they're doing, as it pertains to the scheduling of basketball is going to be really, really good. But yesterday, when we were going through and talking about the rankings from EA sports and have a little bit of fun with it. Yes, it's just a video game. It doesn't mean anything, certainly in the grand scheme of things, maybe makes it a little bit more difficult to play with

the Hawkeyes if you're playing online. But that's a different conversation. But I got into went back to the quarterback. We talked about Mark Gronowski. I thought his rating was pretty low. Thought it was going to be higher for him. Who cares, right? It's one group of people's opinion that put the game together. And Hank Brown listed as the backup. And then third was Jeremy Heklinski. And I had a conversation last week with somebody off the record, but they were talking about Heklinski and that there's a chance.

Now you start with the size. He's listed a five foot 11. He's not a big guy, but for whatever reason, my mind started to turn a little bit to Drew Tate, an undersized guy. He was not as tall as he was listed. And yet, what an impact player obviously that he was, back up as a true freshman, three

years as a starter, and high level performances that we saw from Drew Tate. That's not to put this that Jeremy Heklinski is going to be the next Drew Tate, but it just got the wheels turning. When I was talking to that person, I brought up the comp. Was that a fair one? Said he doesn't have the same kind of pocket presence because the pocket presence for Drew Tate was unlike anything that Iowa quarterback has seen in a really long time. Just his ability to feel that pressure, to spin out of it, that is incredibly difficult to replicate. But it, that is incredibly difficult to replicate. But they said that's a pretty apt comparison and something that they can see.

Still a lot of work to do developmentally, but it sounds like Tim Lester likes him. Hank Brown I still believe is going to be the backup this year. But if you believe that it's going to be a slam dunk, no doubt about it, that Hank Brown is going to be the guy in 2026, and Glinski's a guy just to keep an eye on. Wanted to throw that out there for you. A little nugget here to wrap things up. Thanks again to Ben McCullum for joining us today. Talking about the freshman a lot. I think you'll all get a lot out of that one. And thanks for his time on a busy day. As he mentioned, Bennett Sturtz is already in there getting his shots up and and getting ready to go and we'll have some media availability and I'm sure

more is going to come out of that coming up with coach later today. We as mentioned, we'll talk some Iowa football. We'll talk about whatever comes out of the open media availability. We'll do that on tomorrow's podcast. Your team every day. That's what we do here on the Lockdown Network. I'm Trent Condon. I've been in the radio here in the state of Iowa, on the radio, in the state of Iowa for the last 20 years talking Hawkeyes and a little bit more. You can hear me on the Iowa Sports Radio Network and also you can catch me each weekday from noon to 2. KXNO in Des Moines, over in Sioux City on 6-20, 800 KXIC in Iowa City, on the FM dial 95 957 in Cedar Rapids and over in the Quad Cities as well each weekday from noon to 2. That will do it for us today. We'll be back with you tomorrow as always. Go Hawks!