Locked On Hawkeyes - Daily Podcast On Iowa Hawkeyes Football & Basketball - FIREWORKS? Iowa Must CREATE More Explosive Plays to WIN With Kamari Moulton, Reece Vander Zee & Tony Diaz

Episode Date: July 3, 2026

Iowa Hawkeyes gear up for an explosive season—can their offense finally deliver big-play fireworks under Tim Lester? Trent Condon breaks down Iowa football’s evolving strategy, spotlighting running backs Kamari Moulton, Nathan McNeil, and LJ Phillips, as well as wide receivers Tony Diaz and Evan James, all poised to ignite the field with chunk plays. Will improved quarterback play and an athletic tight end group led by DJ Vonnahme push the Hawkeyes past last season’s struggles for big gains? On the hardwood, Iowa men's basketball faces a new identity after losing Bennett Stirtz and Tavion Banks. Trent Condon explores who could become the team’s leading scorer, eyeing Tate Sage, Cooper Koch, and Cale Combs as key contributors in a balanced offense. Plus, Iowa women’s hoops enters the race for four-star point guard Jhaliana Guy, setting the stage for another strong recruiting battle. Follow Trent Condon on X: https://twitter.com/trentcondon LISTEN TO THE PODCAST: APPLE: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/locked-on-hawkeyes-daily-podcast-on-iowa-hawkeyes-football/id1441592240 SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/0GTyz5ygevcGXdTF6QSoEo YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/LockedOnHawkeyes Photo: Julia Hansen/Iowa City Press Citizen/IMAGN Images Everydayer Club If you never miss an episode, it’s time to make it official. Join the Locked On Everydayer Club and get ad-free audio, access to our members-only Discord, and more — all built for our most loyal fans. Click here to learn more and join your team’s community: https://lockedonpodcasts.com/everydayerclub Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors! FanDuel Today's episode is brought to you by FanDuel. From the opening whistle to the final kick, Let There Be Goals on FanDuel. Visit https://FANDUEL.COM to get started now. FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Explosive plays define big-time offenses. Iowa speed ready to shine through the wide receivers running game and maybe even quarterback. Fireworks belong on the field this year for Iowa football with explosive plays. You are Locked on Hawkeyes, your daily podcast on the Iowa Hawkeyes. Part of the Locked-on podcast network, your team every day. I'm Trent Condon, and this is the Lockdown Hawkeyes podcast, your daily Iowa Hawkeyes. podcast. Today's episode is brought to you by Fandul. The biggest stage in world soccer is here. Let there be goals on Fandual. Visit Fandual.com to get started now. Today we're going to look

at the recruitment of a four-star here in the state of Iowa on the women's basketball front and a player that was committed to Stanford. Now looking at Iowa, but a lot of other big programs are involved. We'll talk about Guy a little bit later on. Who's going to lead the Hawkeyes this year and scoring for men's hoops? We're going to talk about. about explosive disness today. Where the explosive is going to come from, from the Iowa basketball team on the hardwood this year. After departure of Bennett Sturts and the likelihood,

the Tavion Banks will not get another year of eligibility. And we begin the conversation today, though, on the football field. And explosive plays, it's something that pretty much every offensive coordinator now that you hear from, it is something that is at the forefront of the conversation. We heard Tim Lester right away mention explosive plays, something that was incredibly important for them. So I went through and took a look through some different numbers, some different numbers over the last couple of seasons in the first two years of Tim Lester,

and it certainly opened up my eyes, and we'll see if it will for you, and then we're going to talk about some players that can add to that explosiveness. Yes, it is the 4th of July weekend, and because of that, we're going to go with a little firework theme here today for you. Let's kick things off and just break down the numbers, and this was a big surprise to me when you think of explosive plays. a lot of coaches, they have it, rushes of 12 plus yards, passes of 20 plus yards. That's the adage.

Unfortunately, I couldn't find those numbers. What I could find, though, were the numbers of rushes 10 plus yards, 20 plus yards, 30 plus yards on down the line, and the same thing in passing. So it had to be those even numbers. But I think it gives us a pretty good baseline of what we're looking at here and some of the struggles that we've seen in creating those big chunk plays for Iowa football, even with the improvements that we've seen offensively. the last two seasons.

So last year, running the football. Pretty good year. Had the Joe Moore Award winning offensive line that got that award and how well they played up front. But this opened my eyes because last season, rushes of 10 plus yards. They had 60 of them. That was 67th nationally. A year ago in 2024, when they had Caleb Johnson back there, it was very similar,

67 versus the 60 year ago. So not a big change in those run plays of 10 plus yards. However, where the big gap. happen was the runs of 20 plus yards. And we talked about that a ton last year. With Kamari Bolton felt like he can make a little wiggle and he could get you the 8, 10, 12 yard chunk, but the big ones weren't there and certainly not at the level of Caleb Johnson.

So last year, Iowa had 15 rushes of 20 plus yards. That's 72nd nationally. On the other hand, the year previous with Caleb Johnson in the backfield, they had 28 of those, almost double the amount of 20 plus yard rushes. easy for me to say that was 11th, though, in the country, shows you that big gap. Russia's of 30 plus yards. Last year, Iowa only had six of them. That was 74th nationally in 2004.

15 of them, that was 8 nationally. A big time running back, that is the difference that you see in those big, big plays that they have. How about the passing offense, though? And the passing offense, well, we know does not paint a very good picture. A year ago, passes of 20 plus yards, Iowa had 20. of them. That was 114th nationally. But that's an improvement because going back to 2024, they only had 17 of those plays. That was 133rd in the country. That ranked last that season tied with the Michigan Wolverines. How crazy is that? That also only had 17 throughout the course of the season.

Passes of 30 plus yards. They had 11 of them last season. That was 119th nationally the year before, very similar. I all had 11 of them, just like they did that season. So what are we looking at here? Now, what is a good baseline when we're talking about these plays and a realistic goal for this season for the Iowa football team and what they can do and what they can put together? And what I go through these numbers looking at those rushes of 10 plus yards. Well, they've been very similar to the last two years, but can he push back up towards 70 of those this season? I really like the offensive line. We've talked about that. If Michael Mislinski has a healthy season this year, I think they're going to be in very good shape.

And will they win the Joe Moore Award? probably not, but that coupled with the deep stable that they have at the running back position, I think they're going to be very good. Our team's going to be able to stack the box. That's going to be different. And it's going to depend on obviously the quarterback play that the Hawkeyes get this season. But a number, push towards 70 of those this season. That's going to be in really, really good shape for the Iowa run game.

And then you get into that rushes of 20 plus yards. And that was a difference between 2024 and 2025 for the Hawkeye rushing attack. Can he be somewhere in the middle? Probably not going to be the 28th that you had with Caleb Johnson, but certainly north of 20, maybe in that 22, 23 range, something like that. I think that's a good realistic number to a game. Shoot for something like that. Get to 24 of them throughout the course of the regular season.

Boom, that's a really good number for the running game. But where the struggles have been is the chunk plays. The chunk plays that have happened in the passing game. And that has been an issue through the last two seasons. we don't know who the quarterback's going to be. Is it going to be Jeremy Hacklinski? Is it going to be Hank Brown? It goes in from the beginning of spring.

Well, it's Jeremy Hacklinson. Look, he unseated Hank Brown as a backup quarterback. He insurped him after the performance against the Indiana game. What it looked like he might have to play, somebody else was going to have to play outside of Mark Grunowski a season ago. It was going to be Heklinski. When he was injured in that Indiana game, somehow Grinowski got back out there and was able to play as the Hawkeyes

dominated the Badgers. in that one, but all that aside. And then we went through Spring and heard that they were splitting reps. One day, Hank Brown was going to be the number one. Jeremy had Glinsky to be the number two. And the next day, Hecklinsky'd be the one. And Brown would be the number two. And back and forth they went and they got the reps.

And coming out of it, nobody said anything. It's not Kirk Farrants or Tim Lester said, this is going to be the guy. But you just got that feeling that it's still incredibly close. But maybe Hank Brown, at minimum, had closed that gap. And it was back to even again coming here. into the summertime. It's going to be intriguing. There's going to be a lot of conversation.

We'll continue to talk about that, certainly here on Lockdown Hawkeyes. But regardless of that, Hank Brown, probably more big playability, certainly a bigger arm out of the two quarterbacks, a guy that can throw it down the field, can make those big plays, and the ball comes out a little bit different out of his arm,

out of his hand. You can see that the arm talent is definitely higher for Hank Brown. But it's not just strictly about arm strength. If it was about that, and I remember hearing an interview, years ago with a quarterback, an NFL Hall of Famer that was talking about, it's not the arm talent, it's not about throwing the football. 80% of the quarterback position is the mental part of it.

Most guys, now he was speaking of the NFL, they can make almost every throw that is out there. It is about that next one. And maybe Hecklinsky has that and is able to do that. But again, that will be seen. What is a realistic number, though, of the explosive plays this season for Iowa football? What is a number that we can shoot for 20 plus yards? They improved a season ago, 28 of them a year ago.

Can that number with better wide receivers with a tight end room that looks absolutely stacked up again this season, an offensive line that you feel very confident is going to be able to protect whoever that quarterback is going to be. 35, you know, is that a number that is realistic of 20 plus 36? That would be three a game. Three a game on average, 20 plus yard passing games. boy it feels it's a very low bar that we're setting here we're not shooting for the moon by any means but that feels like something you could get to certainly this season and then those past plays of 30 plus yards look they had 11 both of the last two seasons not even one per contest

can you average one and a half like 18 over the course of the season again we're not putting up a big hurdle we're not doing the high jump here we're doing the low hurdles that's what we're looking for here and i think that's a realistic number and if this happens continued with the improvements we've seen just overall with the offense. Tim Lester understanding everything, the improvements we think we can see over there. Again, attainable numbers. Well, who are the players that are going to be making those plays? We're going to talk about that next year as we continue locked on Hawkeyes.

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It's a necessity. I think all of us can anticipate that there's going to be some kind of step back out of the Iowa defense this year. And if that happens, yes, we talk about it at Nauseum, the defensive tackle position. You got a new middle linebacker likely out there in Cam Buffington, getting him the reps, some of the new faces we're going to see in the secondary. And though there's all guys that are intriguing and all guys, certainly that have a lot to upside, it's potentially going to be a different look.

And to hope that for a year after year after year, you're just going to be able to hold teams to 12, 13, 14 points a game, is that overly realistic? I mean, there's going to be that come down at some point at a very good well come this season. If that happens, that means the offense is going to have to step up and be the one that takes a step forward. So talking about some of the players and some of the guys that can be explosive for the squad this year. What are you talking about explosives?

I want to start with Reese Van der Z. Van der Z, we have seen it. We have seen him be able to make those big plays. Last year had catches of 29, 27, 29 yards in his three big contests that he had, two touchdowns in his debut as a Hawkeye freshman two seasons ago against Illinois State.

Going up getting contested catches, we definitely see that be a component. That's all well and good. He's a big, bodied wide receiver, and he can definitely make those plays because of the jumping ability, leaping ability that Reese Van der Z has. coupled with what he does in there with the speed element.

But speaking of speed, and that's what makes this, I think, so exciting this year at the wide receiver position. It's Tony Diaz. I know some don't want to get too hyped up. We've been hurt before. We've been burned before by the Iowa wide receivers

and Caleb Brown coming in and guys that have great spring games and guys that came in with a lot of hype and it just didn't happen. I'm ready. I'm buying. I'm buying all the stock. And if you want to be a little bit more tepid and you're just going to dip your toes in and you're not ready to dive head first into Tony Diaz hype train, I get it. I understand it.

And we're not going to yell at you, but I'm not going to go there. I'm going to believe because it's the summer. And summer is for belief and optimism for the football team coming up this season. Tony Diaz from everything that we've heard, the highlights that we've seen that Iowa social media team has put out here throughout the last during spring football and all the different things that we've seen there. absolutely positively. We have seen that be a component. And because of that, yes, I am ready to jump aboard that Tony Diaz is going to be a guy that can hand you five, six, seven explosive plays coming up this year of 30 plus yards in the passing game. I think it is absolutely there. Another guy that we haven't talked about nearly as much, and that is Evan James. The other guy that

came in from the Trace for Portal comes in out of Furman. So this is a guy that because Tony Diaz, and maybe all the height that's cut along with it. We went there. Evan James at the end of the season, he scored, I think five of his seven touchdowns looking at the game line here. Yeah, five of his last seven touchdowns last season came over the final four games of the season.

Had a touchdown grab against Clems. Had two touchdowns in the game against VMI. He was putting up some big numbers, had three games last season of over 100 yards receiving. He was also banged up, did not play the full season a year ago at another guy. It's got to get bigger. I mean, he's a slight frame.

Him and Tony Diaz both need to definitely add to that frame, but both of these guys have explosiveness. A year ago, he had long gains of 31, 34, 38, had a 61-yarder against Tennessee Chattanooga. Evan James, another guy with that speed element that can add some explosiveness to the Iowa offense this season. But it's not just the wide receiver position. And as we talked about with two years ago with Caleb Johnson

and all the big plays that he was able to make in the run game, I think there's another level, another gear to Kamari Moulton. Well, let's say there's not. He is what he is. He's a very solid, dependable, good Big Ten running back, but he doesn't have the fifth gear. Let's just say that for argument's sake. All well and good. Well, who does?

Who's got that? Well, the first guy I go to is Nathan McNeil. We saw McNeil a year ago in a deep running back room, certainly a season ago. Well, all right, you got this freshman and they really like them, but doesn't make sense that they played them. Now in hindsight, that looks very good with the five and five rule. Now it affected college athletics and red shirts are no more. So that actually proved to be a really good decision of getting at least a little bit and getting that experience certainly for Nathan McNeil last year.

But watching him play, there's a smoothness, a glide that you see that is just different than other running backs. And it reminds me a lot of that gliding element to the run game. It's hard to describe. You just know what you see it when you see it. And that's him with Nathan McNeill. how he is so smooth out there when he's got the football in his hands. A guy like that, as we saw with Caleb Johnson, when they look different, a lot of times, yes,

that is going to lead to a whole lot more and lead to those explosive plays that come out of it. Another one that I was interested by was L.J. Phillips, who comes in, big-bodied running back, 5-11, 225 pounds. He just, he looks thick, right? He's got some power to him, right? A little bit of that extra muscle that he's got the kind of frame. you think, well, he's a bruiser, right? Is there a breakaway speed?

We'll see. It's a big difference coming from the FCS ranks, even a good program like South Dakota and making your way into the Big Ten and seeing that that translates. But he had some big runs a year ago, 47, 50, 67, 52, 41, where some of his long rushes a season ago. So it's definitely shown at that level

that he's got a little extra punch there. And maybe we'll see that it's not just a guy that can be a bruiser, but there's some speed to go along with it with that big frame with LJ Phillips. Another thing we have to talk about when it comes to explosiveness. And one of the guys that added it a year ago, and that is DJ DJ Venami. You know, Venami last year in a limited role as he was gaining more experience and had to take over that tight end position after the injury to Addison Ostranga. We saw him come up with the big plays. And I think a lot of because our memories are more fresh of the Nebraska game and what he did there and against Vanderbilt,

that that sticks with you had the 51 yarder against Vandy, a 43 yarder against Nebraska, but even before that, when he was still just getting his feet wet, he had a 40-yard reception against Oregon in the driving rain, had a 32-yarder against USC. Now, we know there's also going to be more of a spotlight coming up this year on Vonami. A lot more people are going to be keeping their eyes on him throughout the course of the season. There's going to be game plans. There's going to be schemes that are going to be used to try to take him out of the offense for the Hawkeyes this year. Good news. If that happens, that's going to meet more opportunities for East Fander's for Tony Diaz.

For, yes, Evan James, all those guys, more opportunities, more one-on-one opportunities. If you got a linebacker and a safety over top of the tight end, that's going to lead more for the wide receiver position. Those are the guys that are most likely. At the skill positions, we're going to see some explosive events this year. I think it can happen. I have expectations that it is going to improve. I'm not asking them to pee.

This is not going to be Florida of the 90s, chucking it around the ball yard with the old ball coach or anything like that with Steve Spurrier. And that's not what I'm thinking or looking at. That's not the expectation level. But improvements absolutely can happen and more explosiveness for this team. Wrapping things up on the other side. We're going to talk some Iowa basketball explosiveness.

Well, it came from Bennett Sturts a year ago, came from Tavion Banks at different times throughout the course of the season. Both of those guys not going to be likely with the Hawkeyes, certainly in the case of Bennett Sturts. We know he's not going to. And likely Tavion Banks, unless a course settlement changes things on that equation.

So where's the scoring going to come from? Who's going to be that explosive player for the Iowa men's basketball team? Plus, we'll talk about a four-star prospect involved with the Iowa women's basketball team. That's all next as we roll through. Stay right there. This is Locked-on Hawkeyes. Trent, kind of back with you one final time on the Lockdown Hawkeyes podcast, your daily Iowa Hawkeye podcast.

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So a year ago, Bennett Sturts led the team in scoring. He averaged 19.8 per game for the Hawkeyes. Tavion Banks averaged 10.2 per contest. And finally, another guy that has departed from the program, Alvaro Fulgaris, He was third on the team in scoring last year at 8.4 points per game and doing that coming off the bench for the majority of the season. Your top leading returning score from a year ago is Cooper Couch. Cooper averaged 7.8 points per game. Camanyahu, he averaged 6.6 per contest.

Kill Combs at 6.1. Him and Tate Sage, both at 6.1 per contest. Five for Isaiah Howard. Urock average 3.4 per contest last year. So on the returners, that's what you have. We also know that the newbies coming in this year. And from Tyree Coleman coming in from Illinois State, what he's going to be able to provide coming up this season for them.

I think there's some scoring ability. Andrew McKeever, definitely the headliner of the group, 7 foot 3, 285. But boy, I don't see either of those guys leading this team in scoring coming up this season. It is going to be much different. It's going to be a much different built offense. And it's not going to be reliant as it was a season ago nearly as much on just one guy going out there. in doing things to think that either the freshman,

either Ethan Harris or Jaden Coon are going to be up there. I don't see that happening, certainly in their freshman campaign. So starting very simply, who's going to be the leading score for this team? I came to Tate Sage. Now, maybe that is remembering too much what happened late in the season. Tate Sage making some big plays,

big three-pointer played so well in the back half of last season. The improvements, though, we saw from him a season ago, shooting 39% from behind the arc, those numbers were not there. What he did later on in the season in the wins against Illinois, what he had, 13 in that one, 12 against Maryland in his first ever Big Ten game. There were some big performances, but you're asking a lot. He's got bounce.

The shooting ability definitely showed up a season ago, but I think that's maybe where I would get to, coupled with the back card. You know, Cooper catch this season, can he added more elements to his game? Can he be more than just the tremendous shooter that he was in the back half of last season and how he started to catch fun? during the final half of Big Ten play and what that turned into throughout the course of the NCAA tournament. That's well and good, but you don't want to be a one-trick pony.

There's got to be even more that goes into it for a guy like Cooper Cotch. He's got to be able to put the ball on the floor a little bit more, a little bit more of a post-up game with that six-foot-nine frame. I think he can do it. I don't think there's any doubt about that, that he definitely can make those kind of plays.

But that would be the step, that would be the conversation I'd be wondering with Cooper Cotch if he's going to get there. This is an incredibly difficult question. And I think one, I want to tackle a little bit more of seeing where the scoring punch is going to come this season. Defense is always going to be at the forefront of any Ben McCollum coach team. His teams are going to defend. And if you're not going to defend, you're not going to play.

And as we saw in the season a year ago with Brendan Hassan, who at the time when they got him out of the portal, felt like this was going to be an impactful player, a guy that was going to be a starter. And it didn't play out in that fashion this season. So that's one to keep an eye on. But let us know right now in the comments section, who you believe is going to be the leading score for this squad this season. I think Kail Combs is going to have the ball in his hands a ton, not completely replicating the role that we saw from Bennett's starts. But as we see, I saw a year ago,

he played the point guard position a lot. They'd have Bennett working off the ball. Then late in the shot clock situation, he'd come back out and get the ball and kind of run those final plays and the final seconds off the shot clock. If it goes the other direction is Combs a little bit more, more. Can he do it? It does feel like, though, this Iowa basketball team this season is probably going to have like six, seven guys maybe that average between seven and 12 and a half points per game,

something like that. I think that's a realistic one coming up this season. And over to Andrew McKeon. So last season at St. Mary's, the 7 foot three center, he only average 8.2 points per game, 9.2 rebounds per contest. We talked about him defensively. Can that number though? Can that growth be there? in the Ben McCullum system. We know how good he is in the pick and roll game and rolling to the basket. Is that a number that can get up towards that 12, 13 points per game, something like that?

Now he's got to be able to stay out on the floor too. And we only played 23 minutes per game a season ago at St. Mary's. And if he can get out there and push that number up, I'm not talking ridiculous levels, but play 27, 28 minutes a game, something like that, stay out of foul trouble and get to that angle. Could that be a possibility for McKeever? That's how it is. That's how I see it at this point in time.

Difficult, though, to point out who that guy is going to be to leave the Hawkeyes and scoring this season. One final note for you over to the Iowa Women's Basketball Program and a new recruitment that was an old recruitment that is ignited once again. And that is a four-star point guard out of the state of Iowa, a Giuliana guy, who had been committed to Stanford for the last couple of seasons. She is for the class of 2008, just getting ready to start her junior campaign coming up here in her junior year of high school coming up here.

A player that is incredibly talented. You see that. The shooting splits, not great. Forcing things maybe at times has not played at elite level teams. Like this is not a young lady that was playing with Johnston and how great the dragons have been throughout the year or anything like that. Some of the Pleasant Valley teams we've seen recently, that's not what it is.

And a lot's on her plate. But nationally regarded it. And the crazy thing is after she made the decision to open up her. recruitment. Rate of the number of 15 player in the country by rivals, local connections, obviously over there in eastern Iowa. If this is something that's going to make sense, other offers that have come in since she's reopened her recruitment at the end of May. Iowa, UCLA, USC, Oklahoma, TCU, Michigan, Kentucky, North Carolina, Ohio State, Iowa State, Louisville, Florida, Miami, Arizona State, and a host of others. This, that list comes to you from Kyle.

has been over at hawkeye report.com. A dynamic player. Some questions, maybe a dad that likes to talk a little bit. Okay, we've heard those stories before. Iowa has decided to recruit those kind of players, but goes hand in hand, right? Those are the things that are important for a coaching staff and for Jan Jensen to make the decision.

There are players from right there in Iowa City in the past that were certainly talented enough to play for the Iowa Hawkeyes. Would have maybe helped the Iowa Hawkeyes, but the juice was not worth the screws back to Lisa Bluter in terms of the extras that go along with it. And we've seen this happen in all walks. This is not just a women's basketball thing. It happens all over the place.

We definitely saw it a couple of years ago with the Iowa program and an decision for a player to move on and maybe a head scratch and it let it chit chat right. And I think we're happy with the way that that definitely turned out. But there is other elements when he talked to some people over there on the east side of the state about that recruitment. But they're back involved. She took an unofficial visit to Iowa City, did the pictures, did all those things too.

Now, Jean-Jensen, finding that right fit. That's going to be the step for them. Out of time for today. Hope you have a great holiday weekend here on the 4th of July. We'll be back with you with more here on your daily Iowa Hawkeye podcast, locked on Hawkeyes. More football talk in the offseason as it continues, the beg questions that's around. Coming up next week, we got a mailbag. You want to send a question to me.

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