Locked On Hawkeyes - Daily Podcast On Iowa Hawkeyes Football & Basketball - Former Hawkeye and NFL player Julian Vandervelde joins the show + our recap of Iowa United in TBT
Episode Date: July 30, 2019We begin the show by giving a recap of our experience in Wichita watching the Iowa United in TBT before we jump into part one of our interview with former Iowa Hawkeye and NFL player Julian Vanderveld...e. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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You are listening to the Locked On Hawkeyes podcast, your daily podcast covering the Iowa
Hawkeyes for the Locked On Sports Network, hosted by Andrew Wade, editor at dearoldgold.com.
Welcome to a Tuesday morning edition of the Locked On Hawkeyes podcast.
I'm your host, Andrew Wade, editor over at dearoldgold.com, and I am sorry that I did
not give you all an episode Friday morning or even this weekend about last week's TBT
tournament with Iowa United in it.
If you were following me on Twitter, you knew that I was incredibly tired, exhausted,
probably a bit hungover, all of the above.
And so I couldn't really give a lot of content out.
But I'm back this Tuesday morning.
We have a lot of content coming to you this week.
We actually have former Iowa Hawkeye football player Julian Vander Velde.
He's also an NFL player for a few years.
Great guy to talk to.
We have him basically going to be on the podcast for the rest of the week. We're going to be giving
you segments of my conversation with him today, tomorrow, and Thursday. So we're going to break
that up into three little sections and also giving you a little bit of other content as well. On
today's episode though, for segment number one, we're going to give you a recap of the TBT tournament and Iowa United being in it.
I want to give you kind of my thoughts, impressions, experience, that kind of thing.
And then, like I said, segment two and segment three, we're going to have Julian Vander Velde on.
I'm just kind of jumping into some of his life and going into the NFL, that kind of stuff.
So you're going to really enjoy that interview.
Honestly, I think I laughed more in that interview than I have with any other interview. So it was, it was a good time talking to Julian,
really appreciate him jumping on the show and hope you enjoy it as well. Also, if you are tuning in
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Also, we do have Matthew Crawford, the general manager of the Iowa United.
He's going to be joining the show later this week, but I'm going to be recording the interview tonight.
Later this week, but I'm going to be recording the interview tonight.
So if you have any questions about the tournament, whether it's for next year or any questions about what happened this year,
if you're curious about Peter Jock and why he didn't play or where Marcus Fizer was or kind of what the expectations are going into season two of the Iowa United,
you can actually ask us those questions.
We will answer them on our podcast recording. Those questions can be sent to us either in a review on our iTunes or Google Podcasts, Spotify, or Himalaya Podcast app accounts.
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Or you can tweet at IowaTBT.
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So if you do have any questions, make sure to get that in.
It's going to be a great conversation with Matt as it always is. And we're going to try to get through
all the questions that you give us on that show. Lots of great stuff. So with that being said,
let's jump into segment number one. All right. So the Iowa United and the TBT, it was a new
concept, right? The past couple of years, there's been the Hilton Magic Legends, and Matt really wanted to create a team that brought together all the big schools.
And unfortunately, they were not able to bring together UNI.
They had Wes Washburn, but he got injured.
I was really excited to watch him play, but he was not able to play due to injury, which is neither here nor there.
I know they do plan on getting UNI Panthers involved in the mix next year, but I think the big thing for the Iowa United was just getting off the ground, getting this team together. It was a large
undertaking as you'll come to realize on our conversation with Matt here in a few days,
but it was a large undertaking. I think just getting off the ground was really the main
thing here. And also it was a big draw. There's a reason why the TBT tournament put Iowa United versus Wichita State in Wichita State's home court.
They wanted a big-time matchup.
There was Drake players that had been playing against Wichita State for a few years.
It's an atmosphere they were pretty familiar with.
It also was one of the most primetime games that the basketball tournament had being aired on ESPN at 8 p.m. on a Thursday night.
So if you were not there, though, I just let me tell you that atmosphere was absolutely insane.
The fact that, you know, Iowa United was really playing from behind the eight ball the entire time just because of how intense that crowd was.
They had their marching band there.
Their gift shop with all the Wichita State stuff no longer said Wichita State.
It said Aftershocks.
That's how intense they were.
Everyone I saw mostly had Aftershock gear.
So it wasn't even like they were bringing Wichita State in.
They were bringing in the Aftershock gear, which I think was pretty impressive.
I mean, we saw a few Iowa Hawkeye shirts, some Drake Bulldog shirts, that kind of thing.
But the Aftershocks were ready for this game.
From the moment the Wichita State
players came out, the crowd was going insane. Anytime the Iowa United even got like an eight
or nine point lead, all it took was one basket, one three pointer, one dunk, and the Wichita State
fans were right back in it. So just a really tough environment to play in. And one of the things I
noticed when looking at the box score, and I kind of noticed this when watching the game, but
there wasn't a lot of depth on the Iowa United squad in terms of minutes played.
When you look at the total minutes played, Nick McGlynn, Reed Timmer, Tyrus McGee, Matt Tybee, and Josh Young all went over 25 minutes.
The next closest person after that was actually Nicholas Bayer at 13 minutes.
After that was actually Nicholas Bayer at 13 minutes.
Mel Samasabi played 13 minutes.
Cyrus Tate played eight.
And Matt Gatins played just a minute and 14 seconds.
So for the most part, they were relying on five guys.
I don't know if they were kind of beaten up by the end of it or just got tired.
You know, Wichita State really started getting hot. They weren't doing a great job of covering Connor Frankamp.
And, you know, he really made them pay for it.
Shaq Morris was a beast down low for Wichita State, just being a real big guy. It was kind of tough to boss him around
from the Iowa United standpoint, but one of the things I kind of noticed is, A, Iowa United
started off a little bit slow. That let Wichita State build that lead. They came back, obviously,
mostly because Tyrus McGee was carrying the team at first.
He was the only one who was really hitting any shot to begin the game.
He finished with a game-high 24 points.
I'm looking up his shooting right now.
He was 9 of 17 from the field and 6 of 12 from three.
He also had seven assists, so a really big-time performance from Tyrus McGee. I know when talking to Matt, that was something they were really looking forward to.
They really needed to get McGee on this team to make it really happen. Nick McGlynn
got going late. You saw the pick and roll start working as they got later into the game in that
fourth quarter, but it was a little bit too little too late. Reed Timmer had an interesting performance.
I was expecting him to really come out and shoot the ball pretty well. He didn't though. He was
playing a little bit timid, only had four points, made one of eight field goals.
But he did chip in with seven rebounds, which is pretty good.
He had a great steal on Cle'Anthony Early later in the second half.
That kind of turned into what I would call punch gate,
where Cle'Anthony Early clearly tried to punch Reed Timmer.
But, of course, with the Wichita State crowd in full effect,
the refs
did not do much about it. That was the other big kind of thing from this game was the refereeing
was absolutely atrocious. They were calling literally everything on the Iowa United and
calling little to none on the Wichita State players. So bad so that I was sitting next to
a bunch of Wichita State fans and even they were like, wow, this is bad.
We're not complaining, but this is bad.
You guys are getting screwed.
So that I thought was interesting that they came out and said that.
Josh Young I thought was really impressive in his performance.
You didn't see it as much in kind of the box score,
but he was kind of putting defenders on skates,
really playing high-character basketball,
which is something he's really known for.
And then Matt Tybee had an up-and-down performance, but I really liked his bright spots of his game.
Very energetic, emotional on the court.
I thought he did a really good job of trying to bring energy back into the team.
So did Nick McGlynn as well.
So I thought that was really interesting to see all those guys play together.
I saw a lot of people kind of hating on some of the lineups, which I thought was interesting. People weren't very familiar with the Drake guys,
which I hope you realize after watching this game, the Drake guys are pretty good just because the
team and the program hasn't been the best the last 10 years. Doesn't mean they haven't had some
really great players on that team. Also, I thought it was interesting. Some people were like saying,
you know, oh my gosh, I can't believe Tyrus McGee just gave an assist to Matt Tybee.
That's not something I ever thought I would see.
So stuff like that was really interesting.
I really personally enjoyed it.
I hope you all try to get to the tournament next year.
The Iowa United will be back and it will be fun.
And I know they're trying to get it in Des Moines as well.
So believe me, it was a crazy atmosphere.
It was a lot of fun watching guys, you know, I've seen play over the last 10 years all play together.
And it really gave me a sense of pride.
Seeing the Iowa on the jersey, I thought was just one of the coolest things.
Being from the state of Iowa, growing up an Iowa Hawkeye fan, going to Drake University,
I still liked the Cyclones, still wanted them to do well, still wanted the Panthers to do well,
unless they were playing, obviously, Drake or Iowa.
But I thought that was one of the coolest things to see and I was really excited about it really excited for next
year as well but that's all that's all I want to cover on today's show for the Iowa United
we're going to get into more of that with Matt Crawford later on in the week but I want to get
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All right, we are back for segment number two.
We're going to jump right into our initial part of our interview with Julian Vander Velde
for the next two segments, and then we'll close out the show,
and we'll give you the rest of it over the next couple days.
So stay tuned right now.
All right, I am joined here by former Iowa Hawkeye and NFL player Julian Vandervelde.
Julian, how are you doing today, man?
I'm doing well. How about yourself?
Doing well. It's Wednesday, close to the weekend.
I'm actually heading out to Wichita tomorrow to watch the Iowa United in the TBT tournament.
So pretty exciting week for me.
Oh, yeah, we've got the Bix Fest going on here and the Quad Cities coming up.
So we're gearing up for a marathon that I
will not be running.
Have you ever tried running a marathon before?
I did the BICS once, once when I was in peak physical condition, so 15 years ago now.
Absolutely.
I ran the BICS and swore afterwards that I would never run another marathon ever again.
I like it.
I've heard some interesting things about the Bix.
Usually it's pretty hot in Davenport or just in that area in general.
It's a lot of hills.
So I've heard not a lot of happiness comes out of that race.
Yeah, it seems like a horrible, horrible time of year to have a long run.
horrible time of year to have a long run but I guess if you're if you're into long distance running I already don't don't understand you on like a fundamental level so I suppose running in
the heat is is just a whole is just another level to stack on top of that where where we'll probably
never be able to understand each other so then for, for hot days when you're training for the Iowa Hawkeyes or training for the
NFL, I'm assuming the conditioning portions outside were probably your least favorite?
Yeah, it wasn't huge unconditioning.
I got into it at Iowa.
When I was, I mean, that was the peak of my physical prowess, if you will.
of my physical prowess, if you will.
You know, you really get to the point when you're in a Chris Doyle program where you come to understand just how much of an advantage it is
to go into a fourth quarter against, you know, some of these teams
and just be on such another level with your strength and conditioning
that you feel like you could just go on forever so you'd be I did reach that point you know where
the conditioning went from being my least favorite part to to certainly maybe my second least favorite
part only because I understood that that you know by doing that
i was giving myself that advantage absolutely when you can see those tangible benefits from it i feel
like it makes the pain a lot more worth it when you're like if i do this i will be better at this
but if you aren't able to see that it becomes a little more difficult to want to put the effort
into it yeah it's also easier when you have your team around you. That was one thing is conditioning on your own is,
is always horrible.
I don't care who you are or what you're doing.
I don't think there's anybody who enjoys,
uh,
conditioning by themselves.
Um,
you know,
just for the sake of,
of conditioning.
But,
uh,
when you have a team that you're working with,
when that atmosphere is there and,
and guys are,
you know,
picking each other up and helping each other out.
And,
uh,
you know,
everyone's got each other's backs. Uh, you uh you know there's there's something special about those days
uh when maybe it's you know maybe those those couple extra uh sprints those couple extra shuttles
uh they don't hit you quite as hard uh when you're when you're surrounded by a bunch of guys going
through the same thing with one goal i can only imagine i mean i saw the I saw the video of Tristan Wirfs doing the hang cleans earlier this summer
and the whole team around him just yelling and screaming.
It seemed like a pretty cool atmosphere and an atmosphere where you can really get behind your teammates
and, like you said, lift them up almost, let them achieve things that they didn't think were possible.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
So then, coming out of Davenport Central what was the adjustment period
like going to the University of Iowa and obviously jumping into a Chris Doyle-led program
I mean the adjustment period was was uh I'm not even sure at the point where I really kind of felt
like um you know like I really belonged there like it was always a dream of course to uh to go and play for for iowa and be an offensive lineman there and
uh you know i just i remember for probably the first uh year year and a half uh you know i i
never really felt like i had uh the ability to to you know to voice my opinions or have an input
i was just i was kind of reacting to everything So it was just put your head down, keep your mouth shut, uh, do the work,
do whatever they tell you to do, no matter how long or how hard it is. And, uh, you know, at the,
you know, at the end of the day, just try and do the best that you can. Um, you know, so that,
that adjustment period of, of kind of realizing, you know, well, you know, I'm, I'm one of these
guys now I do belong here. Uh, you know, it was a bit of time. I think it was, you know, well, you know, I'm one of these guys now. I do belong here.
You know, it was a bit of time.
I think it was probably until, you know, part of the way through my redshirt freshman season when Raphael Eubanks pulled me aside.
You know, and I think he could kind of sense that I was having some self-doubts.
And he was like, listen, man, you know, the coaches wouldn't, these guys are, you know,
the best coaches in the country. left outs and he was like listen man uh you know the coaches wouldn't these guys are you know the
best coaches in the country they're not going to put you out there uh if they if they don't think
you're ready to go right they're not going to give you a job if they don't think that you can do it
um you know so if they believe in you you know it doesn't matter how if you believe in yourself
they believe in you and uh you know that should be enough for you to to do the job uh and do it
right and uh and so that was kind of you know the first time that i was enough for you to do the job and do it right. And so that was kind of, you know, the first time that I was really like,
you know what, you're right, man.
If these coaches, if this coaching staff has been doing it for as long as they have been
and have had the kind of success that they've had,
if they believe, then I've got to believe too.
Absolutely.
It's interesting you mention the self-doubt because in talking to Drew Tate
and Ricky Stanzi, both of those guys, when you think of confident quarterbacks,
I would say they're up there for that confidence level.
And both of them talked about the adjustment period
and not having that confidence right away of,
holy crap, I'm playing for the Iowa Hawkeyes and am I really good enough to be here?
It's different. It's definitely different.
Absolutely. But you went on It's definitely different. Absolutely.
But you went on to have a pretty successful career.
I mean, off and on, really a four-year starter, second team, all Big Ten.
What was it like after that five-year journey?
Was it happiness?
Was it kind of sadness of this is over or I did it?
What was that experience like after five years in the Iowa Hawkeye program?
I mean, you're going to be – anytime you finish a five-year journey,
there's a certain amount of sadness to it, I think, you know,
because you pour so much of yourself into something like that, you know,
that to have it end is always kind of bittersweet.
And, you know, for me being a hawkeye was uh was
everything there was uh you know there were i i had a lot of things going on uh you know in my
personal life and and in my social life and whatnot but uh you know as far as as what i had always
wanted to be it was a hawkeye and so to have that experience, you know, was tremendous.
And then when it ends, of course, there's that, there's a little bit of that feeling of sadness, but at the same time, one of the great things about Iowa is that it is, you
know, it's such a family.
It's like you can move out of your parents' house and, you know, leave and go take a job
in another city.
And every time, you know, you come back for the holidays uh you know they're still your
parents and it's still your house and uh you know and and there's the familiar things that you
recognize and uh and that's kind of the way that it is with Iowa as well um you know not just uh
you know the the program has had what two coaches in like 50 years or something insane like that
um you know so there's there's always that always that feeling of family and brotherhood and welcome home.
Anytime you want to come back and get in a workout or talk shop
or just fill us in on your personal life and what's going on
or you need career advice, whatever it is, the door is always open.
They're always happy to see you.
The whole staff knows everybody by name, current players and old. And so while there is that sadness in leaving the program as a
player, once you're part of that family, it never really leaves you. You can always come home.
That's incredible. And I want to backtrack, too, because you said a couple things that I
kind of latched onto, the fact that you always wanted to be an Iowa Hawkeye.
So when you were getting recruited, you were a three-star prospect.
You had a couple offers.
One, it looked like, was even from Stanford.
Was it always you were going to be an Iowa Hawkeye,
or was there ever any inclination of maybe I can go somewhere else,
or was it just as soon as you got that offer, you were ready?
My mom has been in the education industry for a long time.
I think for her, she was probably rooting for me to go to Stanford
because of their reputation as far as academics go.
But they had wanted me to go there as defensive lineman.
There were a couple other schools, Georgia Tech, Kansas,
a couple other places that had wanted me to go there as defensive lineman. There were a couple other schools, Georgia Tech, Kansas, a couple other places that had wanted me to come in,
and whether I was going to be D-liner or O-line wasn't really, you know,
a sure thing one way or the other.
But, I mean, think about the years before I came into Iowa
and the offensive lines that they had and the guys that they turned out,
you know, the Steinbachs and the Galleries and the Bruce Nelsons and and all those guys and I you know I knew that I wanted
to be an offensive lineman for the University of Iowa so it was either uh you know at one point
in time I had the offer from Stanford and I didn't have one from Iowa yet and it was like in my head
I'm like well do I just go walk on at Iowa as an offensive
lineman um you know because it's like you know I I wasn't sure I I was you know I was willing to
to essentially take that that chance um you know rather than take the scholarship and then go out
to California um and also Stanford was terrible at the time it was before Harbaugh got there and
turned the thing around uh but uh but there was But there was always the belief that the place I was supposed to be was at Iowa on that offensive line.
for me a scholarship. I remember he, um, we came in with me and my parents and we went in and we sat down in his office and we talked to him for, uh, for a while. And, uh, and he essentially made
the offer and I didn't actually think it was happening because I didn't think that they would
ever come. And so, you know, I kind of gave him like a, you know, like a, I need to go home and
talk to my, to my parents about this. It's a big decision, blah, blah, blah. Um, and um and uh and on the way home my mom was like
wow you really handled that very maturely i'm surprised uh that you didn't jump on it at the
spot i'm like what are you talking about she's like they just offered you a scholarship to go
play there i was like what no no he didn't it was like he was saying something else it was you know
it was like come back for for camp or something like that wasn't a scholarship he's like yeah
that was they he was offering you a scholarship like holy crap so when i got home that was like the first thing
i did was call him up and i was like yeah yeah no sorry i didn't i didn't realize i'm kind of
dense sorry about that yes yes i want to go and play for you wow that is uh that's a pretty good
story so i've i've done a couple of these before and talked to people about their recruiting stories,
but that's fantastic that you didn't even realize he was giving you a scholarship offer.
You didn't even expect it.
Yeah, you get so wrapped up in the dream sometimes that you think that the dream's always just going to be a dream
and it's never going to be a reality.
So when it really happens, sometimes you don't even recognize it.
And that was the case.
And once it kind of hit me that that was actually happening,
you know, things kind of took off from there.
Yeah, so what was that like?
You get the scholarship offer.
You finally realize you got the scholarship offer.
You accept the scholarship offer.
Did you celebrate?
Did you get, you know, like pizza or something,
at least something to kind of say, heck, yeah?
I just, well, at the time it was going to be a great year, I think.
So I knew I was, I thought it was going to be a great shirt thing so i i knew i was i
thought i was going to have to come in and uh and be a part-time student and take whatever it was
like 11 credit hours or something um and uh and work out you know with the team so it was like i
kind of um you know i was going into senior senior season of football and i was like all right i'm
just gonna i'm gonna get ready for football i going to get ready for wrestling, I'm going to do track,
and it's like let's just focus on keeping the grades up and doing well for my team and stuff.
I wasn't really focused, I guess, on getting ready for Iowa.
I don't even know that I necessarily celebrated it right away.
I remember there, like,
there was a thing at the school where they had, like,
a quote-unquote signing day, and, like, we had a cake,
and I had a slice of cake, and that was, like, my celebration.
But I was just so focused on, like, you know,
what I needed to do to get ready, you know,
to finish out my senior year of high school. My greatest fear was being one of those guys who was get ready, you know, to finish out my senior year of high school.
My greatest fear was being one of those guys who's like, you know, gets a scholarship offer
and then drops off the face of the map, you know, and doesn't do anything with his senior
year.
And then, of course, I broke my foot and couldn't hardly do anything anyway.
But no, it was just kind of, you know, again, that head down, keep your mouth shut, put the work in, and do whatever they ask you to do scenario.
So when they called me up and invited me to regular camp,
I'm not going to say I was ready, but I was just, you know,
yes, sir, you need me there, I'm there.
That's fantastic.
That is basically what you anticipate and expect from an Iowa Hawkeye,
so I love hearing that. It's great to hear that. Talking about the celebrations, you were drafted
in the fifth round by the Philadelphia Eagles. Obviously, you probably had some sort of
expectation that that might happen, but what was that moment like? You talked about you grew up
dreaming to be an Iowa Hawkeye. Did you have any dreams about being in the NFL and again what was that experience like on draft day hearing your name called um it was it was amazing uh I had coming
into Iowa I didn't I didn't think I was going to start at Iowa until my senior year um my my
five-year plan I guess if you was I mean I was coming in behind some very talented uh offensive
linemen some very highly touted guys with, you know,
definitely more recruiting stars and from better schools and bigger dudes.
And I've always been kind of a, you know, I've been a small guy for an offensive lineman.
You know, I've just kind of relied on being quick and clever, essentially.
And so for me, my whole plan was just you know i'm
gonna sit behind these guys who are big time recruits um you know i'll back them up for for
four years and then you know hopefully by my senior year i'll i'll be a starter you know
start for a year and then maybe get uh you know like invited to an an NFL camp as like a, you know, as a undrafted free agent
or something like that.
And so as that, you know, reality changed, you know, and I came to know that it might
be a possibility that I would get drafted.
It was, you know, it was just like, well, shoot.
I mean, all I've ever wanted to be is a Hawkeye.
So, you know, if I can do what I can do here, you know,
and somebody thinks that I'm good enough to move up,
then that'll be great.
I didn't know.
I didn't think it was going to be Philly.
I didn't know where I was going to go.
I had heard somebody say that one of the NFL analysts had said that I was
probably going to be the Mr. Irrelevant, the last guy picked in the draft.
But it was exciting.
It's definitely super exciting to have your name called and have that opportunity and
realize that that next step is coming.
But at the same time, you know, it's a very, very different type of football at that level.
Not just the talent level, but, you know, the money gets involved, the internal politics get involved,
and, you know, who was drafted where and whose contract was for how much.
You know, and Iowa football was just pure.
It was, you know, put your head down, carry on your lunch pail, do your work,
go out and win.
And the NFL is a little bit of a different animal.
So I didn't really know what I was getting into.
But again, it was that same thing, kind of rookie camp coming in.
I didn't know anything.
I didn't know anybody.
It was just put your head down, go to work, and hope that something good happens on the
back end.
All right.
And that concludes our Tuesday morning episode of the Locked on Hawkeyes podcast.
I really appreciate you all jumping in and listening to the show today.
Just a quick reminder, we have a lot of great content coming up this week.
We'll be giving you bits and pieces of the Julian Vander Velde interview over the next two days.
That is Wednesday morning, Thursday morning, and on Friday morning,
we're going to be airing our interview with Matthew Crawford, the general manager of the Iowa United.
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