Locked On Hawkeyes - Daily Podcast On Iowa Hawkeyes Football & Basketball - Former Hawkeye RB LeShun Daniels Jr is on the show to talk about his memorable Iowa Hawkeye career

Episode Date: September 24, 2020

Former Iowa Hawkeye running back LeShun Daniels Jr joins the show today to talk about his recruiting experience and how he didn't realize he had an offer from BC and then received his Iowa offer via a call from a restricted number. We also touch on his time with the Hawks including that amazing 2015 season before diving into a conversation on perception and the perception that he wasn't fast until he blew people away at the combine. Part two of our conversation is dropping tomorrow as LeShun sheds light on his experience in the NFL.Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors! Rock AutoAmazing selection. Reliably low prices. All the parts your car will ever need. Visit RockAuto.com and tell them Locked On sent you.Built BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKEDON,” and you’ll get $10 off your first order.KeepsIf you’re ready to take action and prevent hair loss, go to Keeps.com/lockedoncollegeto receive your first month of treatment for free. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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LaShawn Daniels Jr. on the show today. He's going to be joining us today and tomorrow morning to talk about his Iowa career and his NFL career, so you do not want to miss this. On today's show, we're going to be focusing mainly on his Iowa career, so check that out in just a few short seconds. Before we get into that, though, if you are tuning in for the first time, make sure to like, review, and subscribe wherever you downloaded this episode at, and give us that five-star review if you love it. Also, follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram.

But with that being said, I don't want to waste any more time to get into this interview, so let's hop into the interview with LaShawn Daniels right now. All right, I am joined here by former Iowa Hawkeye running back LaShawn Daniels. LaShawn, how are you doing today, man? I'm doing great. Doing great. You know, it's nice to take some time out of my day to talk a little bit about the Hawks. It's always a good time.

I love it. Same here, man. Like I said, I was really dying there doing some accounting. I'm happy to talk some Iowa football with you, a guy who had a pretty impressive career at Iowa. I enjoyed watching you. I actually just watched a video real quick of all of your touchdowns at Iowa. First of all, I was really tired of doing accounting work for my new job and watch all of your touchdowns in Iowa got me pumped for the interview. So I'm excited to be here, man. Yeah. Yeah. Likewise. Hell yeah, dude. So let's kick it from the beginning. You went to

Iowa, obviously you committed to Iowa, but you had previously committed to Boston college. So can you walk me through your recruiting process and why you ultimately decided to decommit from BC and choose Iowa? Yeah, so BC ended up being, was really my first like power five offer, you know, going into really my senior year. Like, I mean, I had a lot of like Mac schools that were interested, you know, took a lot of visits to different Mac schools and whatnot. But, you know, Boston College is really the first one to,

you know, really recruit me, obviously kind of heavily. And, you know, I went to the campus, you know, enjoyed the time there, had a good visit. And obviously, you know, they have great academics. So obviously, it attracted me there. And, you know, playing big football obviously interested me. And then, like, you know playing big football obviously interested me um and then like you know my senior year goes by um had a really good senior year um state of ohio you

know first team all-state um you know player the conference player of the year like all that all the accolades and then you know bigger schools started you know trying to recruit me a little bit um uh and then iowa was really really the first I guess you know I guess like really known like power five school to really you know uh extend an offer and you know really you know start recruiting me heavily um and then Boston College really uh had a coaching change and the coaches they brought in um coach Adazio, you know, we just really didn't, you know, click all that well, honestly. And so, you know, let me decommit from there. And then I took my visit to Iowa and, you know, with Coach Ferentz

and, you know, the guys that are on my visit, you know, we just kind of bonded really well. And then it was really, that was really pretty much that. I mean, there was a couple other schools that came in to try to, you know, recruit me a little bit, but really, I just kind of felt like Iowa was really the place for me to go. So ultimately, that's what I ended up doing. I love it. We're obviously glad you became an Iowa Hawkeye. I think Iowa Hawkeye fans are very happy that you became an Iowa Hawkeye. As far as that recruiting visit to Iowa, what were some who are some of the main coaches you

worked with? I mean, what what drew you to the program from a coach perspective? And then what were some of the players that you were meeting up with at the school that kind of led you to decide that Iowa was the place? Yeah. So obviously, you know, I mean, I've just really felt a good connection just kind of with Coach Ferentz. Obviously he's done a great job with the program, you know, since he's, since he's been there, throughout all of program you know since he's since he's been there throughout all of his time there and obviously like that obviously attracted me really well um to the program because obviously I want to go to a place where I felt like you know they kind of treat they treat their players like like family um and the fact that he's been there for

such a long time um it was obviously just make it easy. Obviously, if you ever did leave, after you graduated, it'd be easy to come back and bond with Coach Ferentz and the other coaches that were there because obviously they work as a family. For the most part, a lot of guys have been there for a very long time. Obviously, that family

aspect really attracted me there. Obviously, the fact that they obviously have a really good NFL pipeline of NFL players that have been through the program you know basically ever since he's been there um and it's a constant yearly thing and obviously I want to play in the NFL that's been one of my goals since you know obviously growing up you know being a little lowly right playing football you always want to playing the NFL is always something I want to do so that's what really kind of attracted me there and then um yeah just with my visit you

know I just had a great time just meeting a lot of the guys I mean Anthony Hitchens and uh Christian Kirchley were both my hosts uh during the time I was there and you know obviously they showed me around um you know Iowa City and you know meeting with a lot of different teammates and you know it was just a really good good kind of a weekend that I had there and it was really just like I mean this is really like a no-brainer I mean yeah this is this seems to be the place for me uh you know I just feel like I really just clicked with everybody that was there um and you know obviously like now the rest is history so absolutely man um and so so can you describe to me what was the excitement level when you got that initial offer from BC being a big school and then getting that offer from Iowa

and knowing you had more options on the table now of where you wanted to go? I mean, I can only imagine, you know, you obviously had confidence in your ability, so wondering why some of these bigger schools weren't coming around until your senior year. But what was that excitement level for that BC offer? And then the Iowa offer. If you have any good stories that let me know. The BC offer was a little weird because like, so at first, like I was like talking to one of my head coaches,

like my high school head coach and we were talking and like, we were talking about like offers that I had at the time. And I was like, I was like, yeah, I mean Akron has offered me um Bowling Green you know I was just listening off med schools and then uh like literally like a few minutes later uh the boss of college coaches called me like hey like how are you doing blah blah blah and I was like oh yeah I got my first offer from Akron or whatever like like a week ago or something and he's like oh we offered you like two weeks ago or something like that I was like oh yeah I got my first offer from Akron or whatever like like a week ago or something and he's like oh we offered you like two weeks ago or something like that I was like oh really I didn't even I didn't even know that uh so that was so that was uh no funny um wait wait just real quick you didn't know you had an offer from them yet no I had no idea I had an offer from

them and it goes I was like yeah and we offered you like two years ago i was like oh all right that's that's sweet um and then uh with the iowa offer it was like it was like late one night at a school night and uh coach ferentz called me from calls me from uh like a restricted number well hold on back that check back check so coach brian ferentz first came to the school um talking a little bit it was like hey we'd like your film you know we'd like the way that you play um blah blah blah but like he left uh you know my school without obviously offering me he was like we don't know if we'll offer you uh yet um obviously we're gonna obviously see what the head man says and you know we'll go from there and then literally like a few days later like late at night

coach parents called me from like a restricted number and i'm like who's calling me like on a school night like it's probably some some kid like trying to like print call me or whatever so uh i answered the phone uh just because i was like you know who knows yeah good call to the phone yeah right answer the phone you're like oh hello sean this is coach parents how you doing i'm like oh coach parents like of all people i call me this late at night and He's like, Oh, this is Coach Ferentz. How are you doing? I'm like, Oh, Coach Ferentz, like all people. I call him this late at night. And he's like, Yeah, we just want to send you an offer to University of Iowa, you know, the whole spiel. And obviously, like, I'm jacked. Like, you know, everyone's asleep. I'm waking everybody up like, like, you know, I offered all this. for all this blah, blah, blah. Yeah, so that was a really, you know, cool experience. You know, like it really was almost like a feeling of relief.

You're like, I finally like, you know, my hard work's like really starting to pay off. You know, I got schools like actually trying to, you know, actively recruit me. So, you know, it really just, you know, felt real good. I need to quickly pause the conversation with LaShawn because I need to give you a very important message. Built Bar is back and it is better than ever. Built Bar is the best tasting protein bar on the market. And the more improved Built Bar is even more delicious. All right.

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one of the things i find interesting about your recruitment or your commitment to iowa was it came in a very interesting time in iowa's history um that was arguably the worst not arguably it was the worst year in iowa football history under kirk ferentz outside i'm giving a lot of caveats here but outside of kirk's first two years it was the worst season he's had at the helm of that program. Were there any concerns that – about the program being 4-8? I know you talked a lot about, you know, Anthony Hitchens and enjoying the guys and enjoying Kirk Ferentz, but were there any concerns in the back of your mind thinking,

I don't want to be with a team that could be losing a lot over the next couple years? Yeah, of course. I mean, that's always something that comes across your mind, right? I mean, no one wants to be part of a losing team or program. I mean, it's just not a fun place to be, right? Like, for example, my junior year of high school, we were awful, right? We were 2-8.

We only won two games my junior year. Somehow we had, you know, divisional football players all over the field, right? And we still only won two games um so really yeah no one wants to be a part of a losing program but i just kind of really looked at i guess you know their body of work and kind of just like the history of program and i'm like okay you know i really don't like i really think this is kind of like this is basically like an outlier right i don't think that's something that's you know really part of their program.

Losing isn't really something that they do. So, and I just feel like, you know, I'm willing to take this risk to obviously, you know, kind of change it from, you know, going back from, going from losing program, which they aren't, but going from losing year and kind of turning them back into, you know, a program that wins ball games, especially against, you know, ranked opponents and big time teams. So I just felt like it was an opportunity for me to kind of help get the program back

on track. And then basically I saw the opportunity and just jumped on it. Absolutely, man. And I think, you know, you obviously did that. We'll talk a little bit about that 2015 season, a season you had a big part in as well. But prior to that i do want to touch on the ohio thing is ohio football that competitive that if you have multiple d1 athletes on your team you may not be a good team still because in iowa if you have one d1 athlete

like you might be going to the state championship 4a is a little bit different but i mean if you have a you know a four-star athlete you're you're going there for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Most definitely. I actually, okay. So hold on. You have to like repeat like the first part of the question. Cause for some reason, like my audio, like cut out for some reason. Yeah. I was going to say, so, I mean, is Ohio football that competitive? Cause like for Iowa, like I said, it's, if you have one D one athlete on your team, your team is, is going to be good whereas it

seems like at Ohio it sounds like you had multiple d1 athletes on your team and you only won two games so just for my own personal curiosity like is that is it pretty competitive there where that is the case or is it just an aberration again with your team where you just freak injuries bad you know bad cases of just not getting things done uh I mean, really it's a little bit of both. So let me think. So my junior year, let's see, we had – obviously I went to Iowa. Then we had another kid who went to Michigan State at the time. And then obviously we had young guys who ended up going to Division I programs.

But, yeah, so, I mean, we had players. And then, let's see see our first week we played against um team austintown fitch who had a couple guys go to pit a guy go to notre dame and then we had and they had a guy went to ohio state who's actually a first round draft pick in 2018 2018 um which guy's that billy price yeah uh-huh um and then the next week we played um you know across town rival um they had a kid that went to michigan so it was really like it was like every week it was basically like you know there was a player on the opposite team like going to a division one school i'm not sure if it was obviously i feel like they're obviously relatively pretty talented but i'm not sure if it was obviously I feel like they're obviously relatively

pretty talented but I'm not sure if it's like you know the signal of you know how football being well and all that and but it's obviously a combination of that and obviously them being talented players so yeah every week was competitive it always felt like um you know playing in Ohio I mean it's obviously one of the bigger football states in the entire country, right? Obviously, besides some of those southern states, we have a lot of players that are obviously currently in the NFL that are from Ohio as well. So, I mean, yeah, Ohio is a really competitive football state. And, yeah, obviously, it's tough. It's tough to, you know, obviously be a superstar there.

And, obviously, if you end up being a superstar, you usually have a pretty good opportunity to play at the next level and get played in the NFL without a doubt yeah I find it fascinating because being from Iowa you listed off in the first four games of your season more D1 players than most Iowa hold the whole state of Iowa has in an entire year so I think that's very interesting in literally your first four games you had you list off eight or nine D1 players in a first round draft pick and Iowa, that is the entire state possibly, except for this year where there's weird stuff with transfers coming all over

the place and whatnot. So that's crazy to me. So I do want to touch on the Iowa stuff. You know, you, you committed when they were four and eight and you experienced a lot of success at Iowa, both personally and as a team. I do want to touch mostly probably on that 2015 season, though, because that was an unbelievable year, a relatively unexpected year. And the fact that you all went 12-0, were literally a ridiculous run away from getting into the college football

playoff. What was that season like for you, man? I mean, it was really fun honestly i mean uh obviously winning um you know every single week was just was a blast right i mean it makes your college experience you know that much better as a football player because obviously you want to uh have personal success um obviously but you know having team success is pretty close up there right you want to have you want to be a really good football team and you want to compete for championships and try to win championships.

So, you know, going through every single week, you know, a lot of times, you know, winning games with guys, you know, stepping up, making big plays who might not have been that guy, you know, in the week before, right? That was really kind of really the story of our season, basically almost, you know, next man up, right? So, like, because I won the starting running back job, you know, coming out of the spring. I'm going into the season, you know,

obviously we played well in, you know, week one against Illinois State. And then next week, you know, it was playing well. And then I obviously get hurt, you know, a few minutes before halftime going to the Iowa State game, so, and then, you know, we have joint Kansas City step in, and, you know, as a senior doing his thing and making big plays, you know, throughout the entire year, and then, you know, a few weeks down the road, Kansas City goes down,

right, and then we get Akram to step up, Akram and D. Mitch to step up, you know, they're making plays, and, you know, really, that was just, that was just such a big part of our success, I think, for us, you know, it was in that running back room, we knew that, you know, if anybody got in there, they were gonna basically be successful, right, because just because of how competitive we were as a group and you know the type of work that we would put in to you know have a kind of success and you know really you know every single week uh it was almost like you're going into the game and coach white's like okay uh so and so you're going to be starting but obviously we're going

to ride the hot hand we're going to ride the hot hand. We're going to ride the hot hand. So, you know, you never know who could be to step up and make the big play. So it was like every single – it was like every other week, you know, a different running back or, you know, a different defensive player or, you know, offense alignment, you know, someone was stepping up to, you know, fill a hole and make plays for the team. And I just really thought that that was really, you know, just fun for our team. And I think that's why we click so well and why we won so many games. Yeah. I think it's pretty cool.

When you look back at some of the best seasons in Iowa history, they have been seasons where that running back position has been just all over the place. Not in a bad way, just, you know, injuries and whatnot. You have three or four guys stepping up. You look at 2009, you had, I gosh, I think there's like three or four injuries and you have three or four guys stepping up you look at 2009 you had I gosh I think there's like three or four injuries and you have Adam Robinson a gray shirt freshman coming on and you have Brandon Wager you know going up there and having wig bombs and whatnot I think 2004 gosh they might have went through like seven running backs and then 2015 as you talked about

you you can Zeri Derek Mitchell and Akram Wadley them that's a pretty impressive for some of running backs and I look I look at your stats right now, 26 carries in that first game against Illinois State, 8, 9, 5, 4, 13, 23, 26, 8, 5, 8, 10. I mean, that is all over the board. So from a running back perspective, how was it for you to be able to stay in the game, right? Because there are times you're going to have a hot hand,

but if you don't get things going in a couple of carries know and maybe Akram is or maybe Jordan Kanzari is which his story is also really incredible just the adversity he kind of experienced playing at Iowa but what was that like for you to kind of stay fresh and stay focused when you were not always getting all the carries uh obviously it's a little tough right because I mean as a run at the running back position you kind of want to be a person that's kind of in there and you kind of have your rhythm, right? You know you're going to get at least five plays, right, into the next drive,

regardless of how many plays you guys have in the drive, right? So you want to be, you know, in there, get in that rhythm. But, obviously, with how our running back room was set up and how our team was set up, we knew that, you know, a lot of times that wasn't going to happen. So, really, that was just – you really just had to focus on, you know, obviously getting those mental reps and, you know, staying ready in the game at all times, right? You can't be, you know, on the sideline messing around, not paying attention, just watching the game. You actually have to be into the game and kind of thinking okay what player be running here and then you know you want to see like how the defense is reacting how

the running back that's in there is reacting right so if that situation comes up again and you're in the game right you know what to do um or you can obviously make an adjustment to do something different than what the last guy did that was in there so it was really it's obviously tough um this is where a lot of like mental toughness comes in and, you know, being a, being almost being like professional, right? And, you know, really making sure that you're taking care of your business, right?

And, you know, really staying on top of your, on top of the game plan and staying on top of situations that are happening in the game. So when you do go in there that you are ready to go. And that was something that, you know, I think all of us did a pretty good job of staying focused on. So right when we had the opportunity, we were going to make the most of it.

Cause right. You only knew you weren't going to get so many opportunities. So you want to make sure that each one that you did go out there, you were going to make it count. So. Absolutely, man. And then the following year, you were basically in a nice, a really nice 50, 50 split with Ak with Akram you both went over a thousand yards what was that like for you to be able to I mean because in that case you basically were kind of a bell cow back and so was Akram in a sense what was it what was that like mentally for you was a little bit easier knowing that you were probably going to get your 15 touches a game at least yeah yeah I mean without

a doubt yeah I mean this is easier on easier on your mental right you just know like okay i'm going in and i'm gonna have at least be in the like at least 40 of the plays in this next drive or whatever um and then i was gonna get around 50 of the plays in the game um so obviously it's easier on your mental um and it feels it makes it feel like you just get that rhythm um you know much more um and And, you know, me and Akram, we actually just taught, we talked about like us having success, like way before that season even started. Like I want to say after the Indiana game in 2015,

we did a pretty good job of running the football with just us two. Cause Ken Ziri was out and it was, it was really just me and him. And, you know know we did a good job in football that game and you know after the game we're just like you know like next year like it could be something special right like like we can you know really do some damage um running the football on the backfield um and then obviously with the seat with 2016 you know we actually saw come to fruition right we saw you know each of us making plays every single week um whether it was a big run here a big catch here um you know just plays all over the field and you know really it was just us just putting the dedication and hard work throughout the offseason

and then you know you know translating it to the football field in 2016 and i thought that obviously helped keep our offense um you know afloat that year as much as possible. Because obviously we had a lot of injuries. We had a lot of injuries. We weren't able to pass the ball as well as we would like. And then so we knew like, OK, it's going to be on our shoulders. So we basically have to do whatever we can to kind of help us get some success. No doubt. And I do want to get back to just your Iowa career in general. But you touched on one thing, the fact that you and Akram played so well together and did such a great job

in that 2016 season. And I was looking back doing, you know, and I remember, I remember when you went into the NFL combine or not, the NFL you were at Iowa's pro day, excuse me. And you ran a four or five 40 yard dash. That was something that I think kind of shook, you know, shocked a lot of people. And also one of the things I think you needed to work on, and you even said this, I think in an interview was your pass catching or that teams wanted to see you you know catch more

passes do you feel like I don't mean this in a mean way towards Akram in any any sense but do you feel like the fact that Akram was more of that agile and quick back when and your role in the Iowa offense was more of the you know up the middle and that kind of guy back do you feel like that contributed to that perception of maybe not being able to run a four or five or maybe not being as good of a pass catcher as you probably are yeah I think that definitely contributed a lot right um um but like so for starters I mean obviously I wasn't great catching the football like coming into college um obviously I didn't do much pass catching in high school then didn't really need to yeah right um but obviously over the years it was something that

I worked on my game a lot and you know I definitely spent a lot of time in the offseason you know trying to catch passes trying to improve that part of my game just because you know I knew you know at some point you know I'm gonna have to be able to do it right if it's not in college you have to be able to do an NFL um and that was something that you know I really you know tried to obviously improve that a lot and I think like over the years I got really good at it but it was like already to the point where like everyone kind of knew like as my role it's like okay he's really the he's really the first down back right so he's just gonna be getting the ball he's gonna be running the inside zones the powers you know the stretch plays right um he's just gonna be getting the ball he's gonna be running the inside zones the powers you know the stretch plays right um he's just gonna be getting the ball handed off to him

um so he can't be like that that fast of a guy or you know or that shifty of a guy right he's just doing that um so that was definitely a little bit part of the perception a little bit um but yeah it was something that definitely obviously worked on my game a lot um i really want to be you know improvement of of my game because you know really something really person of back that i really just enjoyed watching was levy on bell and you know i think back at his time at michigan state where he was like he was really you know really just you know a true first down back right he was huge right huge, right. Like 240 pounds. People don't realize that about him.

He lost a little bit of weight when he went to Pittsburgh and really changed his game a little bit. Yep. Yep. So that was really a person who I really enjoyed watching. Cause I was like, okay, he can make that kind of transformation. You know, obviously he was a little bit bigger than I was, but he really transformed himself into being like a receiver out of the backfield. Now something that, you know, I really want to kind of work on and kind of improve at.

So he gave me a lot of inspiration on that. And, you know, obviously, seeing other running backs, you know, get more opportunities, you know, being able to be on the field and catch the football. I'm like, huh, well, if I can catch the football well and move well with the ball in open space, I mean, that's going to open up my opportunities to, you know, play a little bit more. So definitely, yeah, the stigma of, you know, me just being a first down back definitely made it seem like I wasn't that fast. But I mean, I knew I was fast.

I knew I was fast. I knew I could run a little bit and catch the ball well. And those were obviously two things that I did really extremely well on my birthday so yeah because I when I was doing the research for that I remember you running that fast time and I looked back to see if you had any comments on it and you said yeah I expected to run that I don't know why you all thought I wasn't gonna run that and then I was like yeah well what was my perception so I went back and looked at some of your old tape I'm like you're breaking away from cornerbacks I don't know why I just never realized that but you're absolutely just the fact that you were always on the field for that first down and you're breaking away from cornerbacks. I don't know why I just never realized that, but you're absolutely just the fact that you were always on the field for

that first down and you're always getting the, you know, the inside zones and whatnot that I guess just contributed to us. I find that very interesting. All right. All that finishes our time with LaShawn. LaShawn will be back tomorrow though. So make sure to check out that episode. It'll be posting before 6 a.m.

Central time tomorrow. We talk a lot about his NFL career, when he got cut or when he thought he was going to get cut, but ended up being promoted to the active roster, the freak accident where he broke his wrist, and his three favorite moments as a Hawkeye, one of which was a huge performance he had against our rivals. So make sure to check out tomorrow's episode as well.

And again, I hope you all appreciated tuning into this episode. I really appreciate LaShawn's time. He took time out of his day to talk to me about all things Iowa and his NFL career and really appreciate him doing that. Hope you all enjoyed it as well. Again, remember to tune into tomorrow's episode. And as always, Hawkeye Nation,

have a fantastic Thursday and go Hawks.