Locked On Hawkeyes - Daily Podcast On Iowa Hawkeyes Football & Basketball - Former Hawkeye WR Kevin Kasper joins the show to talk about his journey to and his career at Iowa

Episode Date: September 18, 2020

Former Hawkeye's all-time leading receiver, retired NFL veteran, and Super Bowl champion Kevin Kasper joins the show today! He tells his amazing recruiting story and what he told Chuck Long when asked if he would be willing to walk-on. Kasper also talks about his welcome to college football moment catching passes from a college quarterback, and when he realized he had a shot at the NFL. From walk-on to all-time receptions leader at the University of Iowa, Kevin Kasper's five year career in Iowa City is quite the story.Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors! Rock AutoAmazing selection. Reliably low prices. All the parts your car will ever need. Visit RockAuto.com and tell them Locked On sent you.Built BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKEDON,” and you’ll get $10 off your first order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You are Locked On Hawkeyes, your daily podcast on the Iowa Hawkeyes. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Welcome back, Hawkeye Nation, to another episode of the Locked On Hawkeyes Podcast, your daily podcast covering your Iowa Hawkeyes on the Locked On Sports Network. As always, I am your host, Andrew Wade, and I'm very excited to be bringing you this episode today. We have an interview with Kevin Kasper, former Iowa your host, Andrew Wade, and I'm very excited to be bringing you this episode today. We have an interview with Kevin Casper, former Iowa Hawkeye wide receiver, former NFL player, and Super Bowl champion. We have him on the show today to talk all about his collegiate career at Iowa, how he got to Iowa, which is a crazy story.

You're going to love hearing that. And ultimately, when he realized that he could actually play in the NFL, when he realized he could be a key contributor on that Iowa Hawkeye roster as well. So that's all coming up on today's show. This is going to be part one. Part two is going to be dropping next week, most likely Monday, possibly Tuesday, where we cover Kevin Kasper's NFL career. So stay tuned for that.

But again, coming up in just a few short seconds, we're going to get into that. Just a quick reminder, please make sure you do subscribe wherever you downloaded this podcast at and also follow us on Facebook Twitter and Instagram if you didn't get a chance to check it out make sure you check out our you know review of what happened with the Big Ten and the fact that the Big Ten is coming back with football this fall we dropped that episode Wednesday afternoon we also had a fantastic interview with two commits in the class of 2021, Arlen Bruce IV and Brody Brex.

Make sure to check that out as well. I know there's lots of news and notes kind of continuing to pop up in the big-town world. We'll make sure to cover that next week, though. Again, I was just really excited to drop this interview. So let's jump into it right now. All right, I am joined here by former Iowa Hawkeye and NFL player Kevin Kasper. Kevin,

how you doing today, man? I'm doing wonderful. How about yourself? I'm doing well. It's great to be here, and definitely something we talked a little bit about this, but this is a 10-year-old me. I'd be pinching myself right now, man. I was a huge fan of yours growing up. Obviously, my mother was trying to always find Kevin Casper jersey cards and finding baseball football cards back in 2000 was a little bit difficult. You basically had to go around to a bunch of card shops. After four years, she finally got it. So, you know, I was a huge fan of yours, man. And it's awesome to be able to just be here and talking to you.

Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, it's a lot easier now. You can just go on eBay and all these new technologies, things they can just get, whatever you want. But that's really cool to hear. I loved it. I had just fun with just enjoying playing football, dying my hair, having fun with that, just doing a lot of things. Basically, just go out there and have fun. And a lot of kids kind of gravitate towards that. I've heard stories that I used to put tape on my face mask and then people like, oh yeah, I used to do the same thing because I saw you do it and I dyed my hair because you did. And I love that. I love hearing that. I think it's really cool

because I know I did that with, I got a chain, the gold chain because Deion Sanders wore it. So I like to look up the players and I was number 21 because of him. I like the swagger. I like to look up to, yeah, I like to look up to players. And I was number 21 because of him. I like the swagger. I like the way he played the game. And so I love hearing that stuff. That's super cool. Yeah. So Deion Sanders was kind of your idol growing up?

Yeah, well, it was actually Walter Payton. Walter Payton was my guy because being from Chicago, I loved, I actually named my first cat Payton, my wife's cat. We were going to name our first kid Payton, but then we did a cat, so we don't want to have them both named Peyton. But Walter Payton was my guy. I loved him. And, you know, but I just liked the way Deion Sanders played the game also. And I liked his gold chain. So I wore a 21 gold chain. I thought that was pretty cool. I wanted to emulate him. That's awesome, man. Kind of funny story on the pet naming thing. So

when my wife and I were dating, she always kind of made jokes about how she wanted to name our first kid Hank, which at that point probably was a little weird because we had been dating only for about a year and we had a long ways to go to be married. But she wanted to name our first kid Hank. And I didn't like that. So I got a guinea pig, a really fat guinea pig. And I called him Hank just so no matter what happened, we could never call that call our kid Hank so that was a similar story in a different way I guess yeah that would be weird if the guinea pig and the kid are both the same name but um yeah I guess that stuff happens and then I had a couple different names that I was gonna name my kid I was actually gonna say kid and cash and my wife is like no I was like no like, no, K I D D and K S H.

That'd be cool. And she's like, no. So I had to, I had to change my mind with that before we got married, but yeah, they kind of take over. Happy wife, happy life. I feel like if I want to do something, she wants to do something. We're definitely doing whatever she wants to do. So that's kind of, it's a lot of fun, but you just kind of got to realize that you're not the boss anymore. Yeah, no doubt. Well, that's cool, man. You talked about the dyeing your hair blonde. That was a big thing for me. I actually dyed my hair blonde. Looking back on it now, I did not rock

it very well, but thank you for that, for giving me that inspiration. I really appreciate my really bad fifth, sixth, and seventh grade photos growing up. I think my parents probably love that too. And actually, just kind of funny, I talked to my mother in general, and I told her about the chance I was going to talk to you and stuff. And she was reminded of those days where she had to drive around all those times to get those Jersey cards. So she thought that was pretty cool.

That's awesome. Yeah, yeah. lots of uh lots of interesting story yeah so she really wanted to get those for me and um obviously I still have them somewhere someone somewhere in a box somewhere but pretty cool stuff man and like I said I'm pretty honored to be able to talk to you today uh the first thing I did want to touch about though is is touch on some of your your Iowa career that was kind of the big thing I'm having you on um we're a Iowa Hawkeye podcast um you're a pretty famous Iowa Hawkeye wide receiver and went down as one of the best ever and I even wrote an article about this a couple years ago kind of ranking the top five wide receivers in the Kirk Ferentz era and you were you were definitely on that list but

before you joined Iowa though you were a walk-on so you walked on to Iowa in the Hayden Fry era but what was your recruiting process like getting to that point? Well, the recruiting process is – there was no recruiting process. That's basically what it was. It's a really interesting and cool story now when I think back. I went to Hinsdale South High School and had a decent career there, set some reception records and whatnot, and most catches in a playoff

game and a season a career and I thought I had I was like well I think I can go play at the next level my my coach at that time Jim Kerwin really thought I could too um unfortunately my dad and I my dad's huge part of my life and we would um get together we'd play Friday night games and in high school and then on on Saturday, we'd go drive to different colleges and hope that somebody would say, hey, we would like to have you. These weren't official visits. These were just us getting a car. I remember driving to Loris College. It was like a rollercoaster going up and down and up and down. And we went to Beloit. We went to Milliken. We went to Valparaiso, Dayton of Ohio, the Butler Bulldogs.

I remember all those teams and I remember all those coaches because we would sit down and they would literally tell me that, well, honestly, it's just either not a fit or we're stacked at the receiver position. I also kicked in high school, so there was some opportunity, but those coaches would say, the fact of the matter is we're not going to play a kicker at a different position. There is a chance you can come here as a kicker, but no one gave me the opportunity to play receiver. So I would usually drive three, four, five, six hours sometimes, and we'd get back in the car, and I'd be pretty devastated, but instead of letting it really, you know, sink in and mope about it,

it would piss me off, and I would get in the weight room more. I would eat healthier. I'd outwork anybody and everybody. And then my games come, you know, Friday nights were that much better. And it was very, very difficult for me, and it was difficult for my dad to see me frustrated when we would, you know, step out of these colleges because, again again Valparaiso, Dayton, Butler, Milliken, Loris those aren't University of Iowa's and um and now I look back I wish I can and I still it still bothers me at 42 years old it's crazy to sound and it's it's a little bit of a motive motivational factor that I kind of

you know think about quite a bit and um and it bothers me but hey they everything worked out for uh you know for the good and uh it was it was a difficult process though and actually so how I got to University of Iowa then I was um I was in the weight room of Hensdale South and Chuck Long who who was at that time coaching under Hayden Frye, he came down and was actually looking at the opposite side receiver as us and some other guys. And my coach called and said, hey, you know, we're sitting there talking. And he said, maybe you should look at Kevin Casper, you know, maybe as a walk on or whatever. So I sat there and I talked to Chuck Long for quite a while.

And he actually said, if we give you an opportunity to walk on, would you? And I told him in the basement, I said, if you give me the opportunity to walk on, I will become the all-time lane receiver at University of Iowa, just like I did here at Hensdale South. All right, we're going to quickly pause the conversation with Kevin, because I do have an announcement for you. If you tried the built bar before, it is back and it's better than ever. If you haven't tried it, you have to do it. This Built Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar and they come in 18 fantastic flavors, six of which are brand new. They also have 12 OG flavors. These bars are covered in 100% chocolate. They're soft and easy to chew and not only are they delicious but they're also

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So go to BuiltBar.com and use promo code LOCKEDON. And the crazy story, going way fast forward, then we can go back, but going fast forward the day that I actually became the all-time leading receiver at the university of Iowa was after Northwestern game. And I received an email from, and I still have the same email to this day, a Hawkeye email, but Chuck long sent me an email. At this time, I think he was coaching at Oklahoma.

But he must have seen or heard or somebody. But he said, he wrote in the email, which was probably the best email I ever received in my life. He said, do you remember when you were in the basement of Hensdale South High School and we are talking and you told me if you let or give the opportunity to walk on that you will become the all-time lead receiver. And for him to remember that with all the guys that are recruiting, I thought that was the coolest thing and the coolest email I ever received.

And so it meant a lot. It meant a lot to me and, you know, to my family and everything. So it was a lot of hard work, but everything worked out. That's an amazing story. I clearly, you know, obviously I didn't know all that. And, you know, recruiting sites were not around back then either. So you can't really do some research on that. But that is quite the impressive story.

But as you said, all those things happen for a reason. You got, you know, Loris didn't necessarily want you. And Beloit didn't necessarily want you. But that, you know, motivated you. And you had that chip on your shoulder and then went to Iowa so that to me is an incredible story I'm really glad you shared that and the fact that Chuck Long did that I think is pretty cool and a testament to his character and you know what kind of person he is and and another interesting story so they told me I can be a walk-on but this this wasn't a preferred walk-on at the time. I don't know if it is still now, but preferred walk-ons would actually come with the team. And then the regular walk-ons would come two weeks later after training camp, after camps are done with the regular students. to get down there so I'm training every day running routes catching balls doing everything I can and it was two days prior to camp starting and I and I got a phone call and I know I talked

to Chuck Long but there was another that passed me on and talked to somebody else but they said that one of the people I don't know if it's 100 players 110 one of the preferred walk-ons decided not to to basically become preferred walk-on anymore because he was going to become a dentist and it was hard to be in the, I guess, the dental, whatever it is. So he was going to go on medical field, whatever. So he's not going to play football. And they said, we do have one extra spot.

Would you be able to get down here? Literally, this was about 72 hours, two, three days prior to them starting camp. And I'm like, yes, I am ready. And I remember I was already packed. I was two weeks ahead of packed because that's kind of how I do things. I get prepared way early. And I told my parents, I'm like, I'm going now. I'm going now. So I became a preferred walk on. So I was actually able to get down there and start with the rest of the guys. And one of the first guys I met there, which was funny is coach LeVar Woods. So we came the same time and LeVar was one of my best friends and he's

coaching at University of Iowa now, obviously, but he was one of the first people I met and it was just cool for me to get with these other blue chip, all Americans and all these studs. And I don't know if they had four or five star athletes type then, cause I don't even know if they had stars. Cause I know my star was never put on anywhere. I don't know if they had four or five star athletes type then because I don't even know if they had stars because I know my star was never put on anywhere I don't think yeah and I never got labeled a star I know that for sure but um I did get the opportunity to go there as a preferred walk-on which was awesome that's super cool and the fact that you got to meet LeVar Woods and you know all those other great Iowa guys and uh you're still pretty close with LeVar today then? Yeah oh yeah LeVar is one of my

best friends and one of the very first guy that I met when I got on campus is this guy came from New Mexico it's Kyle Trappier got out with Wrangler I came from Chicago so it's a little bit different this guy came out tight jeans a cowboy hat and came out of a pickup truck from New Mexico. I'm like, what in the world? And figured probably the last person I'd ever be friends with. And I was actually, I stood up as his best man in the wedding. So University of Iowa is a special place. Those four and a half years that I was there, because I redshirted, the special bonds that we've had, it's just, it's awesome. And it's a great place. And yeah, but back to LeVar, LeVar is one of my, one of my closest friends to this day.

That's amazing. I mean, so I've talked to a lot of different, you know, past Iowa players and they always talk about the bonds that they've had with their players. So I think it's pretty cool. What kind of program Iowa has and the fact that it has transitioned that way over the last, you know, 35 years from Hayden Fry to Kirk Ferentz to be able to transition that culture, I think is pretty impressive. And I want to get to that in a second, but you know, you did say you redshirted your next year though,

as your redshirt freshman year, you actually got in the game, I believe it looks like 10 times you had one reception. Did you feel like you were starting to understand it? I guess, what was your welcome to Iowa? Welcome to college football moment where you thought, you know what? I guess what was your welcome to Iowa, welcome to college football moment where you thought, you know what, I can actually do this? Clearly, you know, you had the confidence that you were going to be able to go in and do this, but joining that team as a, you know, as a preferred walk-on, what was the moment where you felt like, you know, I'm here

and I'm ready to go and I'm just as good as all these players? Well, the one time that I wasn't, I know I wasn't ready with the welcome, I went in, just played catch right when I got down there, probably the third day I was down there. And Scott Mullen, who was six foot six coming out of the Chicago area, we went to the basketball courts and decided that we're just going to play catch out there. And I remember I'm about 15, 20 yards away. I have never seen a fastball come at me quicker than that. I literally thought,

oh my God, I'm not going to be able to catch any of these footballs ever. Because that's the difference between my five foot seven high school quarterback that said, hey, throw it up. I'm going to go get it. And then the six six dude that just was throwing heat like I'd never seen before. So I got pretty nervous. But then from there, I think the welcome to the college where I decided, like, I think I can really play this. On a daily basis, I was going against Tom Knight, Plez Atkins, Matt Bowen, Tarek Holman. There were a lot of good defensive backs that I – Kerry Cooks, another guy. And I got to play against these guys. Ended up being high draft picks and

studs at University of Iowa. And I started realizing after I caught a few balls being on the scout team, and I took so much pride. I think my biggest achievement to this day, I think I was, I have them all still, but I think I was maybe six or seven times scout team MVP. So that's all I want to do. That was my job to be the best player so I can help out one, our team and two, for me to get better. So every time I'd get a scout team MVP where Hayden Fry would stand up there and give me a little speech and say, hey, this is what you got. I would absolutely love that. And that was kind of my thing. So I realized, hey, if I can catch against Tom Knight here and there and catch, you know, against some of these guys, I feel like I can go play.

And, yeah, and then eventually I got in the game. It was against Iowa State. I think they still have a football team, but we – I hate them. But, yeah, so we played Iowa State. I had one catch for 19 yards. It was a little out route that I took up, and that was it. And I think we won. It was something like 160 to nothing. It was a little out route that I took up, and that was it. And I think we won. It was something like 160 to nothing.

It was 64 or something to nothing. That's when Tim Dwight, Tavian Banks, all those guys were going off on them. So towards the end of the game, they put me in. I did a little out route. I was so excited. That was my first catch as a Hawkeye, and it had to start somewhere. So that was it. That was my one.

I'm glad it was against Iowa State. Definitely, man. What a great opportunity for that. Would you say that was – you had some pretty memorable catches throughout your career, obviously the record-breaking one as well. What was your favorite catch in your college career? Was it that one or was it something else? No.

No, Michigan State, it was a tunnel screen. We haven't won in a while. And it was probably a minute, minute or so left. And it took, I think it was 40-plus yards. It worked out perfect. It was a tunnel screen. I caught it. We had some of the best blocking ahead of me.

Just A.J. Blazic, I remember, came and just knocked somebody out. Kyle Trapeer, all these guys. It just opened up. And I went down and scored. And it was so awesome because I think it was our first win and then from there my senior year then we went to Penn State we beat them we beat Northwestern they put roses on the sidelines because if they beat us they get you know they go to the Rose Bowl and I didn't want that to happen we didn't want that to happen so that was a big

win you know but Michigan State that that tunnel screen that ended up winning the game with only a minute plus left, that was my most memorable and it was the most trouble I ever got in because about the six-yard line, I started waving my finger back to the guy, not my middle finger, my next finger, and I was kind of waving it back and forth like, no, you're not catching me, and I got ripped a new one. So it was – I was so happy to get on the – you know, from the touchdown. And I was like, oh, shoot, because we got a flag. And then we ended up kicking a long – fortunately, we had Nate Caden.

So he had – I think that PAT was like a 40-yard PAT because it was a huge penalty. So – I bet. But, yeah, from awesome and fun to, oh man, I'm in trouble. That's awesome. So you kind of, you touched on one thing though, that, you know, that those last two years were not, you know, the best years in Iowa history. I mean, you kind of, you joined the program that first year that went nine and three, 18th in the AP poll. freshman year, seven and five, 98, three and eight. That's Hayden Fry's last year. Your first year with Kirk Ferens, one in 10, and then three and nine in 2000. But what you did was help, you know, build that legacy for Kirk. You were in the first years of Kirk. And then those guys, the next year after you left, went seven to five, and then literally just two years later, go 11 and two. So did you

see the foundation being built with Kirk as you kind of saw that program being developed again? And were you excited to be a part of that growth process? Absolutely. And I want to change it for Big Ten championship or anything, because I've loved what we went through. And being the first two, you know, first two years I got to play with when Coach Ferencz came in. Hayden Fry was a great coach. We loved him. with when Coach Ferencz came in. Hayden Fry was a great coach. We loved him.

But then all of a sudden, it went from an unreal college coach getting towards the end of his career. And next thing you know, Coach Ferencz came in with the NFL mentality. They expected a lot more from us. Five minutes early, five minutes late. Everything was very demanding, which I loved. The only way you're going to become a good football team

is you know that you you got to expect be accountable for one another and your coaches and and your other teammates and he really came in the whole entire staff Chuck Long, Ken O'Keefe who's still there just a lot of a lot of different guys that came in there and you know they demanded excellence and eventually they got the people that they wanted. And we all bought into the program. And some of the coolest things is the last four games is when we went on, the last four games my senior year, it really developed into the following year. Yeah, then it became seven to five in Big Ten championships.

And just going to Penn State, beating them, beating Michigan State, beating a highly ranked Northwestern team. So those were the only games I remember is my last four games, you know, as far as record-wise. Anything that happened prior to it, you know, whatever. But, you know, the last four games, I think we won three out of the four games. And that kind of had a little catapult into the, you know, excitement with these young guys.

And, hey, we actually have something brewing right here. And, and Ference is, he is, was, and is the man to, you know, to take a team to another level and just have kids buy into the program. Definitely, man. And I've heard, you know, Kirk Ference on interviews say that Penn state game was the turning point for the program, beating Penn State on the road. Even, you know, the Penn State wasn't, you know, having a great year, but even just going to Happy Valley and beating Penn State

was such a monumental victory in his career and for the Iowa football program. And you had a pretty darn good game. I'm looking at the stats right now. You had six receptions for 96 yards against Penn State. I'm looking to see – let me see. And then the Northwestern game, beating number 12 Northwestern as well,

you had five receptions for 105 yards and a touchdown. So obviously, you know, balled out those last two games. But I think that's amazing, man. And then the one thing I would say, so, you know, you talked a little bit about the difference between, you know, obviously Kirk and Hayden Fry. What were your thoughts, though,

when Hayden Fry did decide to step down? What was your initial reaction prior to knowing what you were going to get with Kirk Ferentz? It was, Hey, what's, what's next now? Now what, you know, I've never been through a coaching change in college. So it was the first three years we were kind of gets to become complacent and you're with Hayden Fry and you're with the same coaches on a daily basis. And then when he left, I mean, it was, it was sad just to know that he was leaving and then then everybody

became worried including myself you're like okay now what who's going to come in and what what's it going to be like and he changed the culture he changed the the way you you train and you eat and you know this uh Chris Doyle the strength coach came in immediately you know starting talking about nutrition talking about sleep and you start to buy into them you know buying to the entire coaching staff and and they did expect a lot from you but at the end of the day it made us all better each one of us you know just got better as a I mean even as students they expected you more in the class and whatnot, but being a, just a student athlete, it was, you know, a huge difference. And no, no, he,

he had the right recipe. Let's just put it that way. I love man. So are you pretty close to the program still today? Do you keep in communication with some of the guys who are within the program, Kirk and that kind of stuff, or are you kind of staying a little bit away? No, absolutely. I'm, I try to get there at least once a year I live in Arizona now so um LeVar Woods being one of my best friends I talk to him coach Ference is still uh I can call him I can talk to him every time I go back and see him it's big hugs and um I just love seeing him and it's weird it's been 20 plus years since I played

because I still feel when I see him like hey do you want me to run a comeback for you or whatever you need me to do and having Ken O'Keefe come back last year because he was my my receiver coach and went on and was a quarterback coach but Ken O'Keefe is one of the greatest men I've ever met he's he's awesome and having him back there too just to be able to talk to talk to these guys through social media and then talk to them and see them in person when I get back we'll try to get back in the summer and go visit them. And I'll go and hang out at the facilities, work out there, and just be part of the program. And when you go there, it's been very family-like. So you get there and you go check out the facilities.

I wish I had those facilities. They're unreal compared to what we had. But it's really cool. The kids get to enjoy these facilities and, you know, it really is for me, it's really just a family oriented place without a doubt. Yeah, man. When you hear from other former Iowa Hawkeye athletes, that's what they talk about. The fact that they can always go back there and work out and train.

And the fact that a lot of these college athletes that are going into the pros, they don't leave to go to, you know, Exos training facility and stuff. They stay in Iowa city and work with their coaches and they feel like that's lot of these college athletes that are going into the pros they don't leave to go to you know exos training facility and stuff they stay in iowa city and work with their coaches and they feel like that's their best opportunity to get to the pros which leads me actually to my next question when you were going into the draft process first and foremost did you realize you had um an opportunity to play in the nfl like what was the point where you realized i can make it to the nfl could you talk about in high school realizing I can make it into the next

level. But when was that moment where you realized I can play NFL football? I would say I always want to be a professional athlete, whether that was, I was a good soccer player. So I'm going to play soccer and I started playing football. I want to be a professional football player. And that's in my mind, I was always going to play soccer and I started playing football I want to be a professional football player and that's in my mind I was always going to do that and nothing was going to even set backs to go in these smaller colleges and them saying no all it did is fuel my fire and uh so I I don't know I I guess it was probably um yeah probably my sophomore year in college where I realized like hey I can I can go play in the NFL again you know going against all these really

good guys and seeing guys like I was behind Tim Dwight for two years and I really watched everything he did how he trained how he ate and I just kind of was infatuated with that because hey if he's doing that good and then all of a sudden he's returning a kick against Atlanta Falcons I was his roommate when we went to places. I went against Tom Knight, whose first round draft pick, and Ross Verbo was there. All these guys that went on and played and Kerry Cooks and seeing these guys, I'm like, man, if they can do it, maybe I can. So I took that mentality where, hey, why not me? Somebody has to fill a roster. So that was my thing. It's, hey, why not me? me I'm gonna do everything I possibly can and to try

to get there but just just the confidence I had going against all these stud players obviously we bring a lot of people to has no football league and and seeing these guys get there I just thought to myself like okay now it's not a dream anymore it's I think it's become a reality because I've gone and played against these guys and learned from these guys. So now it's my turn. All right. And that will conclude our interview with Kevin Casper for today. That's right. Just part one today covering his collegiate career.

Part two will be dropping on either Monday or Tuesday where we get into his NFL career a little bit more. I hope you enjoy this again. Make sure to tune in every single day, Monday through Friday. We got shows dropping for your morning commute, your afternoon commute, whatever it may be. We got you covered right here, covering all things Iowa Hawkeyes on the Lockdown Hawkeyes podcast,

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