Locked On Hawkeyes - Daily Podcast On Iowa Hawkeyes Football & Basketball - Former Iowa QB Ricky Stanzi joins the show for a 2-part series to talk about life and football

Episode Date: May 29, 2019

Three-year Iowa Hawkeyes starter and former NFL quarterback Ricky Stanzi joins the show to talk about life, football, and being an Iowa Hawkeye. This is part one. Part two will air on Friday! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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With that being said, though, we're going to jump into the podcast with Ricky Stanzi right here, right now. All right, I am honored to be joined here by Ricky Stanzi, former NFL quarterback and three-year starting quarterback of the Iowa Hawkeyes. Stanzi led the Hawks to three bowl victories, including a 2009 Orange Bowl victory. Ricky, how you doing, buddy? I'm good. How are you? Doing well, man. It's Wednesday. We're closer to the weekend. I'm excited.

Oh, of course. Who isn't? Absolutely, man. This week just seems like it's kind of dragging on. Yeah, the weather is finally starting to break over here in Ohio, so we've got a beautiful day. It's like 70 degrees out, but it's kind of been wet and sloppy up until now, so hopefully we can spend more time outside. I've got three kids, so inside is just a nightmare. I can only imagine. I have two dogs, and dogs are a lot easier than kids, but when it's rainy out, they're not outside, which means I have to walk them, and it's just a huge pain in the butt. Exactly, exactly.

Awesome, man. So you are back in Ohio, right? Yes. Awesome. So when did you move back to Ohio? So we moved back a couple years ago. I had spent a little time in Jacksonville. My wife and I really bounced around right after Iowa. She was with me in Iowa for a year. Then we went to Kansas City, obviously, two years there. Spent a year in Jacksonville.

Spent some time in Detroit. We were in CFL. So once we did move back to Ohio, then I kind of spent half a year up in Canada, over in Calgary. So we're finally, this year, it's actually been the first year that I've spent like the full calendar year back in the Cleveland area since I was a senior in high school. So it's great to be home. Both of our parents are from this area. We both grew up, we went to the same high school. So we know the area, we love it. We bought a house back here and it's nice to finally to kind of settle down for once since it's been such a just up and down and moving around and you know you add kids into the mix it it really makes things tough but uh we're happy to be home

i can only imagine man being home is it's a great feeling and i don't think people realize how incredible being at home is until you travel so much. I travel for work, so not as much as you did, but I travel a lot for work, so it's definitely nice to be home. No doubt, no doubt. So you have three kids. How old are your kids? I've got a 4-year-old, a 2-year-old, and a newborn. So we're in the thick of it right now. My youngest, Rosemary, was born on March 18th this year.

Oh, man, congratulations. Thank you, yeah. So right now we're in the phase of no one's sleeping, the kids are fighting, and I told you before, the weather's been poor, so it's like you only have so much stuff you can do inside the house before you just start losing your mind. So we're in the thick of it, but I tell you what, it's a blast at the same time. That's what I keep hearing.

We're on the edge of potential kids in the future, and all I hear is the good and the bad, and that the good always outweighs the bad, but the bad just seems so, so bad. Oh, dude, it's both. Yeah, I'm not going to lie to you. People are like, oh, it's so, it's like, dude, I wish people would have just sort of been straight up and be like yeah you're not gonna sleep you're gonna be

overwhelmed and that's it and so you're like yeah but the good is amazing it really is I mean to watch a human being that you created grow up it's like it's incredible you know even though they're they're always annoying you and they're always trying to get underneath your skin but you got to take the good and the bad with everything and I mean that really becomes evident when you have kids. I can only imagine well I'm hoping it's at least a few more years till I understand that feeling and as far as you know you have the kids but you're staying pretty busy I mean you just got done coaching a mobility class so what are you up to outside of you know obviously taking care of your growing family? obviously taking care of your growing family.

Yeah, so right now I'm privately training quarterbacks. So I'll do like one-on-one stuff or small groups, and I kind of tie in the mobility stuff to that. So I'm a certified functional range conditioning mobility specialist. So it's a functional range system created by Dr. Andrea Espina, and basically it's a mobility training focusing on the joints, focusing on using kind of science that's come out, talking about how our joints and the health of our joints is really a predicator on healthy movement.

You know, I think we used to think that there's some sort of pre-programmed motor patterns in our brain, but it's really not the case. The nervous system is kind of just this system that just wants to learn. And so the input is more important than the output. And so the system sort of based off that, if I can give it to you in a quick nutshell, but that's really what it is, is making sure that the joints are healthy, making sure that the range

of motion is accessible, and that you have a good, healthy workspace, so that when you want to go move, you can move efficiently. And so I've been kind of studying that concept on my own since, I mean, to really nail it down was probably 2014 was when I started to kind of, you know, start picking up hooks on this, start spending time trying to experiment with my own body and my own injuries. And it kind of just has been a building process for me and it's been something that I've grown to love and I want to make it into my second career.

So I've kind of found this, you know, system to be very applicable to what I was trying to understand. So the more I dove into it and tried to understand the literature, it's a fascinating genre of understanding the human body and trying to make athletes better. We're constantly trying to do that. So just trying to stay up to date on what the literature says and the best way that we can maximize our potential as human beings. lot on that movement and some of that you know like whether it's yoga based or what you know what have you just stretching foam rolling all that stuff and obviously incorporating some of the advanced techniques that you're doing i think is absolutely incredible and i think it's not as big of a focus that people don't realize could give a lot of really incredible gains in performance

yeah i mean like you said with the injury stuff i mean for most, when they have an injury, the next injury to occur is that same injury, right? Because we have this idea that the body's just going to magically, you know, do it on its own. But like I said, the brain is always trying to learn. So when you damage, let's say you damage your shoulder or you damage that tissue, you've got to kind of reteach that tissue to sort of reacclimate and get stronger again. So you want to go into the position that you were injured in, right? You want to spend time building back that control, building back the ability to handle a load in that certain range of motion that you got damaged in.

And so, you know, if we look at what we're doing as humans, just how we live and what we were naturally selected to do, there's a huge gap there between being a hunter-gatherer and being a modern-day human. But it's the same physique, right? The same demands are wanted. So we have a sedentary lifestyle. We wear shoes. We sit in chairs all day.

We don't have to go hunt for our food, right? You get to wake up and you get to open the fridge. Well, 200,000 years ago, you woke up and you had to go run. You had to go hunt. You had to go climb. You had to go crawl. And then you rested when you could, and then you did it all over again. So your joints were in constant demand, right?

You were constantly adapting to the environment around you. Well, now we've changed the environment. You know, we've made it comfortable, and it's good, right? That's a good thing. It's okay. But there's collateral damage there, so you have to have some sort of compensation that's going to kind of, you know, sort of take away that huge gap that is what we were naturally selected

to do and what we're doing as modern day humans. So that's where you kind of enter in this joint training to sort of compensate and use science to our advantage and be able to kind of have both, right? I mean, you know, being able to have a nice cushy, you know, sedentary lifestyle, but also keep your joints healthy and be active and have that feeling of being strong and being able to do what you want to do and not have that ankle injury from high school still bother you when you're 40 years old. Because, I mean, how many people go through that? It's a lot.

I mean, I still think about the injuries that I had in high school and how I'm still now finding, I finally found a way to counteract them. But that's, you know, that's 15, 16, 17 years later that you're finally coming to that realization. So we can do a better job. And I think that, you know, that the doctor who put this system together has really laid out the science in a nice, clean, you know, organized way. So, like, this is what we found out, and here's what we're going to do about it. And so, yeah, I think everybody's kind of in the same boat.

And, you know, the body's a machine that's always looking. I shouldn't say machine because it's not a machine. It's a system that's always looking for efficiency. And so, you know, we're constantly battling for efficiency. So we're going to compensate. You know, we're going to adapt to whatever our lifestyle is. If you're somebody that sits and doesn't use your range of motion, well, that's what your body's going to adapt to.

And if you're somebody that moves and uses their range of motion, well, then that's what your body will adapt to. And so it's just sort of being aware and being smart about how we approach what we're doing daily. Yeah, I mean, you're speaking my language here. The last three years has been really an eye-opening experience for me even. I do have a desk job, and one of the big things is I'm also kind of a triathlete. So trying to deal with the hamstrings that are going to tighten up when you're sitting all day, it's a lot easier to be proactive about it than to retroactively fix a hamstring issue. So I definitely get it, man.

For sure, yeah. I try to give this image to the high school kids I work with. I go, you can think of your shoe as a cast, and then you can think of the chair as a cast. I'm sure a lot of us have had a broken bone or had to cast something. We understand that when you take that cast off, you see the tissue change, right? You see what has happened to the body when you immobilize a structure. And so we're doing that repetitively. And so if we understand that and we're more aware of it, well, now we can start to make a change. We can, you know, enter in more daily movement and more spread out.

I think that's another way to, you know, that needs to be understood. If people are like, well, I'm active, I go to the gym. Or I say, okay, well, when do you go to the gym? Oh, well, it's usually in the morning before work. So we try to cram what would have been full day you know decathlon back in the hunter-gatherer days we would have been working all day now we're trying to cram that into two hours and then go sit it just doesn't work that way and so you know we have to understand that that part of it too that you'd rather have small increments of movement throughout your day as opposed to just cramming it into the front end the middle or the back end of your day

yeah i mean it's as easy as just getting up and trying to stretch or go for a walk every hour or 45 minutes but i think you know people people that that technology another technology the science behind it is still not reached i feel like the the mainstream population is still working its way there. So pretty cool stuff. You know, you have your Instagram account that you are kind of showing some of your mobility moves and some of your kind of techniques and whatnot. How can the folks find you on Instagram? What is your Instagram handle?

Yeah, so it's at Ricky underscore Stansy. But yeah, you know, I never was into the social media thing when I was playing, even at Iowa. I had Facebook for a little bit, which I have now, too. You can just type in Ricky Stanzi and that will pop up. So I've kind of been trying to get back into the, you know, you have to when you're in this profession. So I'm trying to get back into the social media world,

but I feel very outdated in that realm. But I tell you what, what a cool platform just to kind of, to learn about, like I learned about this functional range system. I wouldn't have heard of it unless I was on Instagram poking around and trying to understand and learn. So it's a really cool platform and it's been fun to sort of navigate and use it how you want to and, you know, technology, it's not going away. It's here. So we have to be willing to adapt and to move forward and to adjust, right? That's everything is adaptation.

And so keeping that mindset is super important and it's healthy. Yeah, I mean, and obviously the social media stuff keeps constantly changing as well. I mean, I wasn't very active on a few social media platforms until the last year or two, and it's so different from when I started to even, even just now. So I completely agree. I think for folks listening to this, obviously go make sure you go follow Ricky. You can get a lot of great information. I was looking at some of the stuff and I found it really interesting. I think you had a picture of a golfer and just kind of pointing out how his body is twisting and torquing. And I don't think people realize that when you're just playing or watching golf, that how much movement is actually involved in there.

But, you know, as far as the – I think it's funny you mentioned that you're not as big into social media because that works very perfectly in favor of Iowa Hawkeye football because Kirk is pretty strict on the social media. Of course. Of course. It definitely led back to that, yeah. Kirk kind of set the precedent back in the day that he wasn't a big fan of the social media. And that was really kind of the budding of social media at that point. I remember at Iowa, one of my buddies being like, dude, there's this new phone coming out.

It's got no buttons. And you just touch the screen. And I remember being like, dude, that's stupid. That'll never touch on. Of course, that was the iPhone he was talking about, so what an idiot I am. But, yeah, you know, you think about, you know, from college to now and how much has changed.

It's amazing. But, yeah, back when I was at Iowa, we just tried to stay away from it. It was one of those things when you're playing ball, you've got to eliminate distractions as best you can. And what's more distracting than trying to gather as many people's opinions as you can on one platform so Kirk's intentions are always good there's always players first absolutely I mean I think it's a great I mean you look at you look at other you know other college ball players other

college basketball players and they're reading this stuff they're tweeting back at things to be honest there's never a good there's never a good outcome of that. Even if it seems like it's good, it's still not a good outcome. So I think that's really interesting. Obviously, I have a ton of respect for Kirk Behrens. I think all of Iowa Hawkeye Football Nation does. And if they don't, I'm kind of questioning their fandom. But when you were coming out of high school, you were a three-star prospect and you were recruited by a few schools. But how did you choose Iowa then? What was Kirk's selling point that kind of said, you know, I want to be at Iowa?

Yeah, so for me it was I had a lot of the max schools back here in Ohio. And when I kind of broken it down to where I thought I was going to go between two schools, it was Miami of Ohio and then Iowa. And so I went on a visit to Miami of Ohio, really loved it. I mean, it's a beautiful campus. I had a blast. I enjoyed being there. But then when I came to Iowa, it was just, I think it was the culture. I think, you know, obviously Kirk and the way that he talks to you and he's just such a straight shooter that I was like, I want to play, I want to play Big Ten football. He's just such a straight shooter that I was like, I want to play Big Ten football.

I grew up in Ohio, so obviously every Saturday morning we're watching Big Ten football. We're watching Ohio State. So I was familiar with the teams. I was familiar with the conference. And I was always like, let's go do it. I mean, let's go try it at the highest level. It probably would have been an easier road, maybe a more comforting road to go Miami, because when I came in with my class of guys, I was one of another, there was another quarterback, that was Arvell Nelson, and so he was more

highly recruited in the area than I was, and I came in at the same time as him, and I'll be honest, there was a lot of times in Iowa that I didn't know if I was, and I came in at the same time as him. And I'll be honest, there was a lot of times in Iowa that I didn't know if I was ever going to play. I mean, my friends and I joke, when we got to Iowa, outside of AJ East, who played as a freshman on special teams and got in there on defense too, like the rest of us, we only joke, we couldn't see the field with a telescope. There was no chance that I was going to go out there and play as a freshman.

So I'm blown away when I see young quarterbacks like this Trevor Lawrence that came in at Clemson and a true freshman and goes and wins. I mean, that's just – I don't think people – I mean, we appreciate it, but we really have to understand how impressive that is to be that age and to go into those big stadiums and just command respect like that. Because it's a huge jump for these kids, going from being the top dog or the senior

and being the one with all the, you know, all state and all the accolades. Then you go to Iowa and you're like, whoa, what is this? Like this is a whole other level of football. So it was very eye-opening. But the culture of Iowa, Iowa City, you know, kid, all that stuff, it was really just a gut instinct for me. I always trust the gut. And it just felt right.

And obviously it turned out to be the right decision for me. It's funny looking back. A lot of people were telling me don't go to Iowa because Kirk Ferris is going to go to the NFL. It turns out that literally every other school that I was recruited by, their head coach was gone. Their whole staff was gone within a year. And look at Kirk. I mean, he's one of the longest tenure, if not the longest,

I'm not even sure on that stat. But he's been there forever. He's never left, and he's always been true to his word that he has told recruits when they came in. And that just goes to speak to how Kirk is. And anywhere you go, if you talk to somebody that knows Kirk Vance, they're saying the exact same thing, that he's an outstanding gentleman, and there's just nobody that's going to speak a word of him that knows him.

Yeah, I mean, a good example of that is look at the NFL draft this year. There's 10 guys that have contracts now for 90-man rosters, and a lot of that is because of how well-respected Kirk is as a coach and as a man. And when people talk to him and he gives that positive feedback, he says Parker Hesse is a great player. They believe him, they trust him, and they know that's true. Whereas other coaches, I'm not putting down other coaches, but you know what you're getting with Kirk every single time. Oh, absolutely. And I think that the way Kirk ran

things at Iowa made it easier for a lot of Iowa players to go into and understand the culture and kind of like the work environment of a professional team because Kirk sort of modeled his concept off of that. You know, he was here in Cleveland. He spent time with Belichick. He was an NFL coach, so he's always been sort of an old-school mentality, and he's adopted that same sort of work day and that same sort of work ethic. same sort of work day and that same sort of work ethic.

So, you know, you're able to adjust as a senior moving into that rookie year. You understand what hard work is. You understand what it's like to grind in the offseason. You understand what it's like to grind during the weekend. So, yes, Iowa guys usually walk into the NFL and they're well prepared and they're mentally tough. Definitely. And I want to jump back to the Iowa stuff here in a second. But while you're talking about it, the transition from Iowa to the NFL, would you say that it was probably easier than other players have it? But also, obviously it's not easy.

So what was that transition like going to the NFL and playing with the Kansas City Chiefs? It was interesting. My year was the lockout year. So the transition was sort of awkward in a sense because we didn't really get to, as rookies, go through the normal routine that you're getting to kind of see play out on an ESPN nowadays where you get drafted, kind of a week goes by, and then it's like mini camp, and then you're there.

You get to do the OTAs. You get to learn everything camp and then you're there you get to do the OTAs you get to learn everything and then you're kind of get a little break I think it's like a five week break and then you come back for camp so for us it was kind of like all right we drafted you and now just kind of sit still we don't know when this is gonna get settled you know stay in shape and so we kind of like showed up at camp and just like you hadn't seen the offense. You hadn't, everything was really new. So it was a little different in a sense of, you know, how we adjusted. And but at the same time, you know, the simple stuff, like how you carry yourself as a teammate,

you know, kind of understanding your role. Like, hey, you're a rookie, right? These guys are grown men with families, so act accordingly. So all that stuff was really the same sort of culture at Iowa. It was kind of like you come in, you're a freshman, you pay your dues, and you work your way up. And it sort of is that way in the NFL. And so the adjustment period was a little awkward for probably my class just because of the

CBA. But nonetheless, it still felt like a similar environment. Definitely. And what was that feeling like when you got drafted in the fifth round? I can only imagine the elation of kind of realizing your NFL dream and getting that draft pick. But obviously, I've never been through that process. So what was that like when the Chiefs called you in and told you you were going to be a Kansas City Chief? It was wild. I mean, it's just a crazy process in general. And you can kind of – that's one piece of it.

But if you go back to, like, after graduation, you know, you kind of graduate, you're a senior, you're done with your final career, and then it's just like – it's a whole – it's like, okay, that's great. But, like, here comes draft prep, so like, you're really, it's a full process that's very grueling, you know, there's, you got these teams coming in, they're interviewing you, you're getting ready for the combine, you've got the north-south game, you're kind of, you're always gotta be on, you always gotta be ready for an interview or a workout, and that kind of all leads up to that draft day. And, you know, everybody wants to be involved.

You have so many family members and friends that want to be there for you. So it's a lot going on in a short period of time. And I remember saying to my wife when it was all said and done, like, that was great, but I would never want to do that again. So it's just like from the combine and everything together, it was just, it was a lot, and I think it's an amazing process. Obviously I'm so grateful for everything that football has brought to me. And so it's cool to talk about now and to kind of shed a little light on it from my perspective, but it's, it's very surreal.

I mean, you get a call and they're like, Hey, you're, you're ready to be a chief. You're like, yeah, of course. I mean, of course you're going to say yes. And so it's amazing. I mean, I remember growing up and watching the draft and having that dream of wanting to play professional football, and then it's like, boom, it's there. And so it's very cool, and it was fun. And like I said, the biggest thing for me was all the places I got to go

and all the people I got to meet on that journey. It teaches you so much about life. I mean, football is such a game that teaches you about how to handle yourself in stressful situations, how to handle yourself when things don't go the way you want them to. So for me, I'll forever be grateful to everything football gave to me, and I'm kind of in that position now where I have the love for the human body and how it moves and the way it works,

but it also comes back to being in a position of wanting to teach football and teach quarterbacking and give back that knowledge that you acquire and you spend so much time trying to get and trying to understand. So it's kind of crazy to see it come full circle for me. Yeah, and I think a lot of people don't realize that people struggle. If you've been doing something your entire life, you played in the NFL, when you get done playing in the NFL, it's kind of like almost like a what do I do now? And so it sounds like you've really found your second calling,

and it's kind of, like you said, come full circle from that football background background which is really cool yeah and you know i've told this to people before and it's like a lot of players unfortunately kind of get the rug like ripped out from underneath them whether it be injury or you know just whatever the circumstance is on that n team, for me it was kind of like a slow, gradual letdown. I can say it in the nicest way, but that is what it is. It's a business. How many people in the NFL get to ride out on top holding the Lombardi trophy like Elway? That's not realistic. For most guys, they're leaving the game before they want to.

They're leaving the game when they feel like they can still play. They're leaving the game after a brutal injury. For me, when I came into the NFL, I did a little too much tinkering with mechanics and stuff like that. I actually had a long talk with Kenny O'Keefe the other day. He was in town, and we had a long talk about just the transition because he was with the Dolphins and his transition from NFL to college, and we were sharing stories.

But, you know, I tried to tinker with my mechanics, and that sort of is probably what led me into this world because I was always trying to fix my own stuff that I didn't feel was adequate enough. I was always trying to play faster. And so, for me, it was like I was always on the roster bubble. I was always trying to fight for a roster spot. I was always trying to fight for confidence and trying to get my throwing

where I wanted it. So when you go through that grueling process of always being on the roster bubble, always being cut, always being second or third string, and then you find yourself and you're in Canada and you've got two kids and you're spending four months out of the year away from your kids it's kind of like this all right let's let's let's recalculate here let's get home and let's that was fun but it's time to move on so

for me I can say it was like a really healthy you know separation and moving on where unfortunately for a lot of guys the rug kind of gets pulled out from underneath them. So it's really just the nature of the business, and the game never really ends the way you wanted it to. But I'm always in the belief of being an optimist when it comes to looking at things and how you take that perspective is important. And so for me, like I said I'm enjoying all the people I met I'm enjoying the relationships that I acquired over I'm

enjoying the different cities that I got to be in and so for me it was awesome right like you could look at it from one standpoint being like oh well you were you know it's you're only three you never got to like that's great but like for me it was it was an experience, and it's just one experience in a line of other experiences that is this journey of life, so at the end result, it really is just the experience itself, and so if you can kind of dial into that moment in time, you're going to be happy no matter what you're doing. I love the positivity, man. I mean, I couldn't agree more. Most people just, they dream of getting to the NFL, so why focus on the part where maybe you weren't the starting

quarterback? You got to the NFL. You had that opportunity to do that. So I love the positivity. All right. And that'll do it for the first part of our interview with Ricky Stanzi. A big shout out to him for jumping on the show and talking to us for over an hour. Gave us some great content to provide to you, the fans of the Locked on Hawkeyes podcast. We're going to be back with part two of that interview on Friday morning. Tomorrow morning, we have a special episode again coming out. We're going to be talking to you just in general about Iowa sports. There's been a lot of news happening over the last week and want to make sure I'm giving

you that full coverage as well. I love doing the interviews. I love giving you the interviews and I can tell based on the statistics that you love the interviews, but I also want to make sure that we're giving you some of the most recent updates in Iowa Hawkeye athletics as well. So we're going to be doing that on tomorrow morning's episode and then bringing you part two of Ricky Stanzi interview on Friday morning. So stay tuned for that.

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and retweet our pinned tweet, you'll be entered into a contest to give away an autographed picture of Kevontae Martin Manley. It's such an easy contest, there's really no reason not to play. So make sure to go over to our Twitter account at LockedOnIowa, retweet that tweet, follow us on Facebook at LockedOnHawkeyes, and email us if you have any questions, comments,

or suggestions at LockedOnHawkeyes at gmail.com. I appreciate you all tuning in on this fantastic Wednesday morning. I hope the weather is great wherever you're at. I know it's been crappy across the country. So, again, thank you for tuning in to the Locked on Hawkeyes podcast. Have a fantastic day and go Hawks! We'll see you next time. you