Locked On Hawkeyes - Daily Podcast On Iowa Hawkeyes Football & Basketball - Hawkeye Highlights: Key Takeaways from Big Ten Media Days 2024 with Tom Kakert

Starting point is 00:00:00 The biggest takeaways from Big Ten football media days, what you need to know about the Iowa Hawkeyes with the man that was there, Tom Kakert from Hawkeye Report today, Locked on Hawkeye. You are Locked on Hawkeyes, your daily podcast on the Iowa Hawkeyes. Part of the Locked on Podcast Network. Your team every day. I'm Trent Condon, and this is the Locked On Hawkeyes podcast. Thanks for making Locked On Hawkeyes your first listen every day. We're available wherever you find podcasts.

Starting point is 00:00:37 You can also find us on YouTube. While you're there, make sure you hit the subscribe button. Helps us get in front of more Hawkeye fans. Today's episode is brought to you by FanDuel Sportsbook. Make every moment more. As the playoffs have finished up, the sports just stop sporting like we want them to. But this summer, how about this? FanDuel is hooking up all customers with a boost or a bonus daily. That's right. There's something for everyone every day, all summer long. Visit Fanduel.com to get started. Tom Kakert from HawkeyeReport.com joins us.

Starting point is 00:01:13 Tom, Indianapolis, another one in the books. Football season in the air. We're getting closer and closer. Appreciate it as always. How was Indianapolis for you, Tom? Indy's always nice. I mean, it's a great town. It's so easy to get around in Indy. But, you know, three days of the Big Ten is just, I mean, it's the SEC, the same thing.

Starting point is 00:01:35 Three days of SEC. Just, it doesn't, you know, I'm old enough to remember when it was just a two-day event and everybody talked on this one, and then we had the round tables, the next with the players. And that was it. I had a luncheon in Chicago. And that was it. And now those days are long, long gone. You know, I remember the first time I went to Media Days probably, I don't know, almost 15 years ago, I guess it is now.

Starting point is 00:02:05 And sitting at a table inside, what was the McCormick place? I think maybe it was at that time. And just sitting at a table, going up and talking to Joe Paterno. I mean, it was very intimate, very familiar. And yeah, we're talking about a different era. We're talking about a different time. I think Nebraska was just getting ready to join or just joined whatever it was. But a completely different environment.

Starting point is 00:02:26 With 18 teams, it's more difficult. You're putting it on the big stage. You're putting it on the field in Indianapolis. But those moments are gone. And for somebody like you that just covers Iowa football, is there anything that you really get out of anything else outside of maybe what Tony Battini, the commissioner, has to say? Yeah, that's why I just kind of limited myself to one day.

Starting point is 00:02:46 I'm like, well, what am I going to do on these other days? Am I going to go talk to Jed Fish about playing in Iowa? Is that really going to be interesting? Is it worth spending another extra night at a hotel to do that? I don't think so. So it's, you know, back in the day that would have been something to talk about you know you bounce around table to table talking to you know guys like joe paterno or whoever and now you just yeah it's just it's different it's lost come kind of kind of some of

Starting point is 00:03:19 the the fun of it that you know john bonenkamp and I were talking as we were leaving. I remember those days in Chicago. We're at the Fugitive Hotel, as we call it, the Hilton where the end of the Fugitive was shot. And walking out of there with those duffel bags full of

Starting point is 00:03:39 media guides. Now we don't even get a media guide. We don't get any media guides now. Everything's online. It's a sign guide. We don't get any media guides now. Everything's online. It's a sign of the times. It really is, and a really good point of just how different things are, how different we are when we're talking about this. Yeah, very interesting, Tom. Tom Kickert, HawkeyeReport.com, joining us here. You got to stop at the Beef House, though. Is that the picture that I saw? That was, yeah, John and I stopped at the beef house on the way back, so got that in, got the rolls, little steak, little potato.

Starting point is 00:04:10 Yeah, it was delicious, as always. Yeah, exactly what you're looking for. No doubt about it. All right, Tom, let's get into what we learned, and the depth chart comes out. We overreact, as we always do to the depth chart, and I'm okay with that. I like to overreact to the depth chart. It's one of those other checkpoints of the season for me

Starting point is 00:04:27 that I absolutely enjoy. A couple of things that I thought jumped off. Three wide receivers listed, and all the defensive linemen that are listed. I want to go this direction with you with that defensive line. I've told you before, this is my biggest concern. If this defense is not going to play at an elite level, it's because of the lack of depth of defensive line.

Starting point is 00:04:45 2005, expectations. They were really young up front on the defensive line, and they struggled that season. 2010, the lack of depth there. That has been the reason many times that Iowa seasons have disappointed. Are there any youngsters, guys that aren't even listed in that two deep? That freshman class of defensive linemen, I'm excited about all four of those guys.

Starting point is 00:05:04 Is there anybody that can help right away, though? There's nobody on that group that I don't think can help right away. I think those guys all got to fill out a little bit. I had Kelvin Bell on our podcast

Starting point is 00:05:20 a little while ago, and we talked about that. He's comfortable if it's only you know six guys that you trust but I talked to Kirk about it in Indianapolis and he was like it's one of the things we've got to do in campus we got to develop some depth but you like the top four I mean mean, those guys, you know, two starters back, plus Graves and Hercut, both solid players. But, you know, when Jeremiah Pittman was in there last year,

Starting point is 00:05:54 it wasn't great. You know, he struggled. So he's got to take a leap, and that's just your third guy at defensive tackle. And that's just your third guy at defensive tackle. I think Max Llewellyn is really solid as a third defensive end. I really do. I think he's got a potential.

Starting point is 00:06:15 Maybe the lead, I went sacks this year. This thing, I think he's pretty good. Brian Allen, ton of potential, but it's a consistency. If he can get the consistency down, defensive end is solved. But they've got to, in my opinion, they've got to find another defensive tackle. Now Jeff Bowie is listed as the backup to Graves. And then after that, it's Will Herbert, a walk-on, and Luke Gaffney, another walk-on from Linmar. So they've got to find some

Starting point is 00:06:47 help. I think they would have loved to have went in the portal and maybe got a Jack Heflin kind of addition for that defensive tackle position. As you saw, as the portal developed this year, boy, the defensive line, the defensive line, the defensive tackles were just like the great white Buffalo. They were, I mean, I think, I think the kid ended up at USC or Oregon. Maybe it was Oregon kid.

Starting point is 00:07:20 It was just like fairly average kid from Wyoming. Yep. I remember that. He ended up getting, man, he ended up getting almost like a million dollars. You know, just an average guy that just tells you how high the demand was for that position difficult for iowa to swim in those waters and though they're in good shape compared to a lot of programs out there they're not at a level that they can pay a million dollars for a backup defensive tackle and uh that certainly looks to be the case there. Another component that I wanted to get into, you mentioned Brian Allen. We saw him two springs ago, looked good.

Starting point is 00:07:51 Last spring, looked good. Last kid's day, looked really good. So what's keeping him off the field when we see him in these practices? At minimum, a guy that can get to the quarterback. Why didn't we see more reps out of him at least a year ago? Yeah, it's the consistency factor. That's what Kelvin Bell will tell you, that he's just got to –

Starting point is 00:08:12 can't just do it in flashes, can't just do it on game day. You've got to do it in practice to show him that you can do it in practice too. And once he gets that consistency and that light bulb comes on, I think he's – and I think that's going to happen this year. I really do. and seeing that light bulb comes on, I think he's, and I think that's going to happen this year. I really do. And we may see him, because they kind of tinkered with this a little bit from time to time, where they move him when they go to that Raider package or the Rush package, they move him down to defensive tackle.

Starting point is 00:08:38 And maybe that's a place where you can maneuver him down that way and see what he can do that he could potentially kind of float between the two positions to give them a little added depth at both spots. Like to see that. Speaking of depth at the offensive line position, let's go to the other side. They feel good about seven guys. I've got this question, Tom. I'm sure you have as well. Why is it going to be different with this offensive line? They've been around for a long time. They all got a lot of starts between them. We see seven guys with starting experience. Why is this year going to be a big jump forward when we just haven't seen it throughout the course of all these guys' career?

Starting point is 00:09:17 And it's a totally fair question, and I think it has to do with health more than anything else, because the second half of last year mason richmond was not healthy and he was not moving well at all and and you know he was still out there playing and and bless him for going out there and doing it but he probably shouldn't have been playing yeah um somebody should probably sat him down he just wasn't moving well bo stevens i mean i think he had three different injuries last year. One in camp, and then in the Northwestern game, he got hurt again. Logan Jones was banged up.

Starting point is 00:09:53 Dunker, at the end of the year, was banged up. Had his shoulder worked on after the year. Really, the only guy that was healthy out of that starting group was Connor Colby. And so all those guys are healthy right now. And if they can stay healthy, then the feeling is that that group can really excel if they're healthy and they've got two quality backup Salisbury, uh, I thought did a terrific job at center when it was called upon and, upon and has done a great job at guard too. And he can switch between those two positions and Nick beyond garden tackle. I mean, he's

Starting point is 00:10:30 serviceable, but Kirk said he wants more depth at that, those positions. So, and I think what he was talking about there was developing guys like Trevor Lauk, who's listed as a backup right tackle right now. And Cade Pieper, uh, who's listed as a backup right tackle right now, and Cade Pieper, who's listed as a backup guard. And I think he's high on both those guys, but he wants to get to the position where he can play those guys and feel comfortable about it. Right now, he just feels comfortable with seven. And they need guys like Trevor Lauk to hit

Starting point is 00:11:00 because you look at what's happened over the last half decade, the David Davidoffs of the world, the guys that they thought were going to be impactful, not just players, impactful tackles. And it hasn't been there. And Caden Proctor, obviously not being here. And there's a long list now of the reasons I think that this offensive line has struggled recruiting misses injuries and just missing out on some prospects that they normally got in the past, I think has led to kind of where they are right now.

Starting point is 00:11:24 Hey, Tom, another direction for you. Mentioned the three wide receivers listed, had some fun with that after the depth chart came out on Wednesday, going through just the names. But I think maybe something that we should have maybe caught on to a week ago is when you guys had the opportunity to talk to some of the players and they had Jared Bowie that was out there talking to you guys. And then he shows up as the third starting wide receiver on the depth chart comes out here. We got Tim Lester.

Starting point is 00:11:48 Has he got a little crush on Bowie? It feels like maybe we got a chance for a wide receiver to actually pop here. Yeah, he has done well. And I know they're very high on him. Kirk was very high on him at media day this past week. Just think he's got a chance to be really good. The other development I thought at wide receiver was, and not a surprise to our Washington junior jumping in and now list as a full-time wide receiver. He could still kind of find

Starting point is 00:12:19 his way to the backfield at times, but I think he's going to be a guy who's spending most of his time at the slot uh and you know i think louie's going to probably start the opener with with caleb brown yeah i'd be him and seth anderson i would imagine get the get the start and maybe they come out in three wide and it's uh it's washington or somebody like that but uh the other guy to watch her, I know had a really good spring and I know that, um, uh, Tim Lester is really high on is, uh, Caden Witchen is, is, um, just, he, Lester just loves the guy just catches everything and good route runner. Um, you know, I know that one excite Iowa fans a whole lot, but, uh, you know, it's the Nick Easley story all over again, or Riley McCarron or somebody like that.

Starting point is 00:13:07 Yeah. But he's, Hey, there's one guy who can catch the ball and get downfield. We're coming up with Tom Caker from Hawkeye report.com. As we deep dive into football media days, and there is a lot to get into Luke Lachey was there. Jay Higgins was there. Hawk, Hawk, Hawk, Hawk. He was there with Jay Higgins and we also saw from

Starting point is 00:13:29 Quinn Schulte. We'll get some thoughts on those guys and their appearance at Big Ten football media days. A football heavy Friday. Ooh, I love a football Friday. We continue Lockdown Hawkeyes. Today's episode of the Lockdown Hawkeyes podcast is brought to you by eBay Motors. Passion, drive, and patience. The formula for winning championships is also what keeps your ride or die

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Starting point is 00:14:50 I think Boston College and South Florida were kind of his other major offers. We're not talking about a big-time prospect here. Can you kind of remember the recruiting profile and Iowa position that's difficult to recruit? These are the kind of guys that they probably have to go after. Yeah, Dan was an NFL guy, too, and you thought maybe we'd get some more attention there, and he just never did. But I think he just liked what he saw from Iowa, liked the opportunity to come in and play wide receiver. And they've been raving about it ever since he got on campus that he was just kind of different.

Starting point is 00:15:22 on campus that he was just kind of different. He was really solid and able to make plays and just kind of took to it naturally. And it's interesting, Dayton Howard's kind of moving up there a little bit. We haven't seen much from Alex Moda. Every time I see Alex Moda, he's in a walking boot. So you wonder if he's just been kind of cursed early in his career with the injury bug. Because seriously, every time I've seen him, he's been in a walking boot of some sort. And it's just it's frustrating because you'd like to see that kid get out there and see what he can do.

Starting point is 00:15:59 Let's jump to the three players that were in Indianapolis with you, Tom. Jay Higgins, Luke Lachey and Quinn Schulte. Higgins, Lachey, returning for the second year in a row to media days. And let's start with Quinn Schulte. Maybe your top takeaway talking with him, the quarterback of the defense. We know how important that free safety position is in the Iowa scheme and what they have to do with the defensive backfield. Phil Parker puts a lot of trust in that free safety, and Quinn Schulte's done a nice job throughout his career. He has.

Starting point is 00:16:27 And the affection that guys like tells you just how much, how good Quinn Schulte is because Jay Higgins and Nick Jackson essentially kind of said they weren't going to come back unless Quinn Schulte was coming back because they just rely on him so much because he makes sure they're in the right spot so they can go make a play. And, um, he is the essentially the quarterback of the defense and makes everything go and makes all the right calls. And, uh, there's a funny story that Kirk shared about Quinn where, uh, for like the first two years or so, Phil didn't even say his name or anything. And that's how you could kind of tell that he really liked him because he was

Starting point is 00:17:12 kind of ignoring him. It's like junior high. Yeah. He just liked pretending that he doesn't, doesn't like him, but he knew he liked him because he wasn't talking about him and he just wanted to keep it to himself. So yeah, and he just wanted to keep it to himself. So, yeah, Quincy's a really solid, solid football player. Luke Lachey, back for the second year.

Starting point is 00:17:34 Honors are going to come his way and anticipate with a healthy season. One thing, listening to Luke a little bit in a couple of the snippets that I saw, that injury that he sustained, yeah, it looked gross on the field, but we've seen guys bounce back. I think that was much more significant than was kind of let on, at least in our circles. Yeah, it was. And here's the interesting thing,

Starting point is 00:17:55 because he didn't have a great spring. And he was coming back from a very serious ankle injury. I mean, it was bad. It was grotesque.. It was grotesque. The injury was grotesque. And, you know, he was having a tough time kind of just feeling normal. And it was showing up. And, you know, the coaches were a little concerned about it.

Starting point is 00:18:21 But just in June, he kind of had a breakthrough. And it's just one of those moments where it just kind of started feeling right again. And he started moving the way he was, he was used to moving. And, um, and that's massive for the Iowa offense, because now you've got a fully healthy Luke O'Shea, not a limited Luke O'Shea to go with Addison Strangun. We saw what he could do last year. I think Zach Ortworth is going to be pretty good too. They've got him on the rise. It's good options for Iowa at tight end

Starting point is 00:18:58 to go with the wide receivers and then some of the running backs they're going to throw to this year. Were you there by Jay Higgins when he came up to ask Kirk a question when he was on that side panel? I was. I was. It was funny. It was so funny. He had literally, before Jay had walked up there, he had just spent like two minutes just praising the heck out of Jay Higgins. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 00:19:22 I looked over and then Jay was walking over and I was like, oh, he's going to ask him a question. A good time there. Jay Higgins, dad kind of gets the headlines. I mean, hawk, hawk, hawk, hawk, hawk, hawk. How many hawks are going at this point? I don't know, but he is just one of a kind. He loves the Hawkeyes. He obviously loves his son.

Starting point is 00:19:42 That was pretty fun to see. Jay Higgins, though, because of his dad. I mean, in a way he's almost overshadowed at times, but just a good dude. And for me, he's one of the embodiments of Iowa football. Saw him a little bit at times early in his career. He just kind of looked like a guy, right? He's going to be an average linebacker. He waited his turn.

Starting point is 00:20:01 He waited for Campbell to move on to the NFL and then just absolutely hits the ground running. That shows me, I mean, this is one of those backbone kind of guys in your football program, Jay Higgins, at the Mount Rushmore, if you will, of guys that stick it out and see what happens if you do it the right way. Yeah, because I kind of thought he'd just be a guy that would start for one year and have an okay year and just be moving guy that start for one year and have, you know, okay. You're moving on. And way exceeded my expectations. And that's a credit to Jay,

Starting point is 00:20:31 but also credit to Seth Wallace who coaches that position group to get him ready. And, and Seth would tell you that, you know, he was like, Hey, Jay's really good. Jay's going to be good. Just watch. He's, he's ready to go. And, you know, as that season went on, you could just see the chemistry grow between Jay Higgins and Nick Jackson back there. It was kind of choppy out of the gate a little bit, especially for Nick.

Starting point is 00:20:59 But by the end of the year, they were just clicking on all cylinders, and that's a good sign for this year. And I think they've got... The other thing that's been remarkable to me, besides all the running backs staying, is all the linebackers staying. I mean, with Jaden Harrell and Carson Shire and guys like that are sticking around and not complaining about, oh, why are these six-year guys sticking around here?

Starting point is 00:21:29 I think that tells you about the chemistry of the team. Does. It says a lot. Another angle to go with you, haven't got to defensive backfield, Jon Nestor listed as a starter. For the people that say, well, you know, he's incumbent, nobody ever loses their job in Iowa football. Here's Dushan Lee, who was thrust into a difficult spot last year, goes in there at the beginning of the year for Jamari Harris during the suspension for sports wagering.

Starting point is 00:21:50 Then at the end of the year for Cooper DeGene, started a lot of games, did a lot of good things for him a year ago. But here's Jon Nestor listed as a starter. Yeah, and I've been singing Jon Nestor's praises for a while. So I'm patting myself on the back with this one because you just could see it coming. He's like a Phil Parker kind of guy. Coaches kid, but just makes all the smart plays.

Starting point is 00:22:13 You know, just kind of hyper, but in a good way and high energy. And I'm anxious to see him out there. I think Jamari and Sean Lee is going to be an interesting battle. You know, you got Castro, too, at the cash. I mean, just how good he was the second half of the year. I mean, and Phil will even tell you that he's not Bob Sanders, but he's the first guy that kind of makes you think about Bob Sanders in a while,

Starting point is 00:22:43 just the way he was playing with kind kind of the straight line speed and the way he was just coming like a freight train downhill. I keep an eye out too on Cohen and Tringer. Now a little bit of a knee issue after the season, but that's a guy that's on the rise. And, and Phil's been singing the praises of Zach Lutmer who backs up Quinn Schulte.

Starting point is 00:23:03 So the, that defensive backfield got some talent. Even after next year when guys like Schulte and Harris are going to be gone, there's still a bevy of talent back there on the back end of the Iowa defense. So a question. Tom Kaker, HawkeyeReport.com. We're going to continue our conversation to wrap things up. There's just so much football.

Starting point is 00:23:27 We just continue on and on and on. Love the football talk with Tom Caker. And we got a little bit more for you as we roll through on a football Friday. Miller and Condon, 106.3 KXNO is where this was first heard, my radio show. And we're bringing it to you here as well on the Locked On Hawkeyes podcast. Back more with Tom Caker in a moment. heard my radio show and we're bringing it to you here as well on the lockdown Hawkeyes podcast back more with Tom Caker in a moment look I love sports I think you know this at this time and I love them so much I just I never want them to stop playoffs have finished up we got the spring and summer

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Starting point is 00:25:07 to one of the safety positions and they'd slide that way. Nestor was listed as the backup there. Would that just, it's simply Nestor would move to cash and then probably Deshaun Lee or TJ Hall then would come in at cornerback. Is that the simplest equation if there is an injury in that defensive backfield? Yeah, I would guess so. I would guess so. I would guess so. That would be what I would anticipate.

Starting point is 00:25:30 I'm not... I'm going to have Phil on our podcast on Monday. But I want to ask him about Cohen Entringer too because maybe he gets a look at the quarterback. Just to get him on the field, you've got to figure out a way to get him on the field and maybe he's going figure out a way to get him on the field, and maybe

Starting point is 00:25:45 he's going to get a look there because they're just super high on the kid and the way he plays and the athleticism he has. Finally for you, the quarterback position. I think some people were surprised by Brendan Sullivan being listed third, not the backup. Remember, he hasn't practiced. It shouldn't be a

Starting point is 00:26:01 surprise for that one. Listening to Kirk, though, this isn't going to be a quarterback competition, right? Cade McNamara is healthy. His understanding of the offense, from what I have heard, the gap between Cade as a thrower and Sullivan as a thrower is pretty significant right now. This is Cade McNamara's job. It's Cade's job.

Starting point is 00:26:22 And I suspect that Sullivan's going to end up being the backup. You know, I think my nets will fight him for it, but I think Sullivan ends up being the number two guy. And, and the thing that Cade will tell you is you guys haven't seen me fully healthy. Even last year when he was playing,

Starting point is 00:26:42 it wasn't fully healthy. You know, he had the quad injury in camp and even in those practice sessions we really wasn't letting it go the whole whole way so now he feels like uh kate mcnamara of uh the the team that led michigan um you know to this college football playoff so we'll get a look at that and see what he looks like and just keep him healthy. Cause that's, if this offense can get from being, you know, 130th in the country or whatever it was, 131, like 80. Oh boy.

Starting point is 00:27:21 It's a world of difference with this defense provided that line can, you know, the thing to watch. Last year, remember, they were having a tough time getting the quarterback early in the year. Like, first four games, I don't think they had a sack. And Phil had to dial up some more blitzes. So, and they generated some more pressure. So I'm curious to see if he ends up doing that this year, too. Tom, going to be a fun season. Expectations are high and I think they're just going to continue

Starting point is 00:27:48 to grow as we make our way through August. Next time we'll have you on. It will be August in football season around the corner, two weeks away from Iowa Football Media Day over in Iowa City. Tom, we'll see you over there and appreciate your time as always. Thank you. Absolutely. Thanks, Trent. Tom Kakert, HawkeyeReport.com, part of the On3 Network, and appreciate him jumping aboard with us here today. Thanks for making Lockdown Hawkeyes your first listen every day. We will be back with you over the weekend, a bonus episode,

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