Locked On Hawkeyes - Daily Podcast On Iowa Hawkeyes Football & Basketball - How the Iowa football team fixes their offensive woes with LeShun Daniels Jr

Episode Date: January 5, 2022

We are joined by former Iowa Hawkeye running back LeShun Daniels Jr for the final time of the 2021 Iowa football season to look ahead to this offseason and answer listener questions. regarding the offensive woes, the quarterback position in 2022, and the development of the QB position before wrapping up with LeShun trying to guess the majors of all the previous Iowa quarterbacks.Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!Built BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKED15,” and you’ll get 15% off your next order. BetOnline AGThere is only 1 place that has you covered and 1 place we trust. Betonline.ag! Sign up today for a free account at betonline.ag and use that promocode: LOCKEDON for your 50% welcome bonus. NetSuiteOver twenty-seven thousand businesses already use NetSuite and RIGHT NOW through the end of the year NetSuite is offering a one-of-a-kind financing program to those ready to upgrade at NetSuite.com/LOCKEDONNCAA.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome back Hawkeye Nation to a Wednesday morning episode of the Locked On Hawkeyes podcast, your daily podcast covering your Iowa Hawkeyes on the Locked On Podcast Network. As always, I am your host Andrew Wade, excited to be back for another show today. And as we promised on our Sunday bonus episode with LaShawn Daniels, we are dropping the second half of that episode. Today, we are going to be joined by LaShawn Daniels talking more about your fan questions. A lot of questions we got in from y'all. Wanted to make sure we cover that. We're also going to be talking a little bit about the future of Iowa football and going into a few funny stories from LaShawn.

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Let's get to that right now. But that leads us into some questions we had from folks who listened to the show. This is going to be all quarterback-related mostly, so get ready for this. But let's start with maybe not specifically quarterback-related. This is from Jared Starkweather. He's actually the best man in my wedding. He's an awesome guy. He said, what is team chemistry within the locker room like?

Does it truly not bother players when one unit doesn't perform as well as the other? I'm not talking about fights breaking out, but deep down, I know guys have to be mad about continued poor quarterback play. What are your thoughts on that? Have you ever had a situation? You don't probably want to go into the details, but have you ever had a situation like that? And how do you handle it, man? Yeah, so, I mean, you know, you think back to 2014 when I was on the team

and, you know, we weren't having nowhere near the type of season, right, that we were hoping to whatsoever. Um, and, uh, you know, knowing that we had, you know, kind of CJ sitting in the back pocket, you know, on the team, it was kind of, it's like, you know, you would hear, you know, rumblings, you know, every other, every other week, you know, every now and again, like, you know, how will we be if this guy was in, if this guy was starting, um, you know every now and again like you know how will we be if this guy was in if this guy was starting um you know so on and so forth uh so i think deep down it does get frustrating um on the other side of the ball when you know one side doesn't really pick it up right

and um then you have you know the flip side that, when everyone's kind of all in and everyone believes in each other and everyone does, you know, know that each side can go out there and play complimentary football and win a football game. Then you get a season like 2015, right, where, you know, the defense believes in the offense, you know, wholeheartedly. The offense obviously believes in the defense. Right. And there was multiple times, you times you know throughout that year where you know the offense had to pick pick up the defense right i mean you think about you know the minnesota game or even the indiana game um right where offense you know how to go out there and make plays um and then you have you know defense right we're in defense games where you think about the wisconsin game that year right where the defense had to step up and make that was lovely game so like so like yeah i mean i know that um you know probably like the worse that you are the more frustrated off the other side

of the football definitely gets i would agree there but you know for the most part knowing um you know iowa and the type of culture that the guys have around each other. It's never really that big of a deal, not at least in my experience. So, you know, I wouldn't really necessarily worry about it too much, especially knowing like how good these guys were this year going to the Big Ten title game and winning the West. Right. It probably wasn't that big of a deal, you know, in the grand scheme of things, even though, you know, they may have had discussions like, hey, you know, we just got to step up, right? We just got to play better because, you know, the offense isn't where, you know, the offense would want to be.

So we got to pick up their slack. Yeah, that leads into another great question. This is this one from Meerkat, M3REKAT. I think it's Meerkat. He actually used to write for me. He's also a great dude he said what is the solution to iowa's offensive woes then so we we've talked a lot about the quarterback position um i think there's a couple different facets to this i want to kind of hear your

perspective and i'll kind of get mine after that yeah i mean i mean it's it's tough to gauge, right? I mean, for the most part, it's easy to say that, yeah, you know, a good quarterback coming into the system would be great to have, right? You know, it would be awesome to have a guy who can make all the throws, as well as, you know, be dynamic with his legs and things like that, I think would be great to have. Something I feel like, though, might not get talked about as much is I know that at Iowa, right, we run this pro-style offense and we run, you know, things that require a lot of checks,

this pro style offense and you run you know things that require a lot of checks right and you know a lot of decision making from the quarterback position i almost feel like at least in the passing game right that these guys the quarterbacks would benefit from having you know a much simpler process right almost making the offense you know much easier to run and, you know, putting a lot more responsibilities and maybe some of the skill guys, you know, outside and not necessarily relying as much on the quarterback position, you know, to help the quarterbacks while I play faster, you know, make better decisions. And so and then also making it feel like the quarterbacks don't have to be perfect on every single play.

I feel like it's something that could help the offense, you know, in the future and moving forward. But, I mean, yeah, obviously having, you know, a guy who can do all the throws, do all the things, you know, at the quarterback position would be fantastic. But, you know, I feel like sometimes you just feel like the offense can be just too complicated at times for guys. And, you know, I wasn't in Coach Bryant's system,

so I don't know, you know, how it's being run. And so I can't really speak on that. But, you know, there are times where, you know, you feel like the offense could probably be simpler, make the decisions much easier for the quarterbacks. Because, I mean, you look at round, you know, cultural ball, you look around Power 5 teams. I mean, a lot of these teams, I mean, they got quarterbacks who, I mean,

these guys aren't superstars, right? Most of them aren't going to play in the NFL. Most of them won't even, you know, make a practice squad. You know, but they can still feel, you know, decent performances from the quarterback position. And I feel like that's something that we haven't been able to do. And I feel like maybe that's part and, you know, I feel like the complexity in the offense. Yeah, I mean, look at Purdue and the fact that Aiden O'Connell and Jack Plummer can both look effective.

And then Jack leaves because Aiden's too darn effective in Purdue's offense. That's just, I mean, Ohio State can just plug and play. Granted, they're getting five-star quarterbacks but uh there's too much i think we look at iowa and i think last year there was a lot of um well spencer hasn't played such hasn't done this but i look across the landscape and there's freshman quarterbacks everywhere making plays and performing at a average to above average level and then you hear alex badia say yeah this offense is really. It takes a year to a year and a half for a quarterback to fully get a grasp of that. I think at some point you have to say, maybe we do simplify this thing

because that is not conducive to being successful. You're essentially eliminating most of the quarterbacks off your roster as being competent players in your scheme. Deuce Hogan leaves. There's a lot of kind of interesting things out there, but the one I kind of heard the most is, you know, he's a great player, great athlete, great skill set, wasn't picking up the offense as quickly. Kirk even said about Joey,

who is going to be the Cinderella of this off season because everyone wants to have the guy, right? I mean, it's going to be talking about Joey theerella of this offseason because everyone wants to have the guy right i mean it's gonna put me talking about joey the whole freaking offseason i can't wait for it um next year will be carson may next year be mark i mean it just it's never gonna stop july will find the guy uh but we're gonna talk about that too but kirk also said joey has joey's great when he has to improvise but he still doesn't know the offense yeah figure out a way to make the offense easier so these guys can learn it so we can play the best player at the right time. It's just frustrating as heck.

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free wherever you get podcast at and also on YouTube by searching Locked On Hawkeyes and that's part of the reason you know why CJ didn't play till you know really when he did right I mean when you think about it that actually makes sense

Jake again Jake was a solid quarterback. Right. You know, I'm sure Jake was a quarterback for Hawkeyes this year. Right. You know, he might be might be different. Right. But, you know, that said. Right. He was a very conservative guy. Right. And, you know, didn't really make the splash plays that you're really hoping for a quarterback position. But he knew the offense. Right. He really knew it like the back of his hand. You know, he could tell, you know, anybody in the field, right, what they had on certain plays, right?

And, you know, coaches were comfortable with that, right? And, you know, CJ, again, he was still learning, right? He had a pretty good grasp on the offense, but nowhere near as much as Jake did. And you obviously saw, right, when CJ, you know, got his opportunity. right he had a pretty good grasp on the offense but nowhere near as much as as jake did and um you obviously saw right when cj you know got his opportunity i mean there's a lot of times where you know where plays got improvised or uh you know we made a check to a play you know that didn't exist right i mean one play that that comes to mind i mean we were playing we were playing nebraska in 2016 on the play ak Akron scores on, like, that long touchdown run.

TJ checked into a play that wasn't really – that wasn't even in the playbook. Checked into a play that wasn't in the playbook. We got guys going two different ways, and it ends up working out anyway. So, like, you know – I really want to go back and watch that now. I really want to go back and watch that play. Because you got, like, guys – like, you got, like, tight ends. Like, it that now. I really want to go back and watch that play. Like, cause you got like guys,

like you got like tight ends. Like it's a, it's a slant plate to the left. Right. And you got like our tight ends on the right side are like blocking out to the right. Um, you know,

the slant plate is going to the left. So I, again, it's weird, weird play. Right. And it ends up working out. So,

um, and that would never obviously have happened with, with Jake. Right. And he knew every single audible, um, that we possibly had, but I mean, obviously that was just a have happened with Jake, right? I mean, he knew every single audible that we possibly had. But, I mean, obviously that was just a brain fart by CJ at that point. But, I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, there's times when you feel like the offense is just, I feel like it's just too complicated, you know, at times.

And simplifying it down, especially in the passing game, would really, really help the quarterbacks quite a bit. Yeah, do you – so under – because you were under O'Keefe, right? O'Keefe was – Coach Davis. Coach Davis. Oh, yeah, yeah, sorry. Under Coach Davis, do you feel like the offense is mostly based off of Kirk's principles?

So I guess one of the questions I oftentimes get is, well, mostly I get Brian Ferencz is terrible, and then I try to explain that I don't think it's all entirely Brian Ferencz. How much of this offensive scheme is Kirk versus the offensive coordinator playing within Kirk's scheme? We've seen Brian incorporate some interesting things, but I can only imagine that he had to bang the table about 500 times to get kirk to be like let's add the wildcat which which is an interesting i don't find overly effective most of the time especially if we're

never going to throw out of it but that's a whole nother rant for a whole nother day getting back to my main point how much this is kirk versus the offensive coordinators you know um when you i know for a fact the run game is all is all kirks i mean you look at any time for the run game you look at plays from this year you look at plays from you know 2015 you look at plays from you know 2004 all the run game is pretty much the exact same right now you could you could could go back, we could watch any clip from, you know, back then, right? Any run game, any run play, and I could be like, okay, you know, that's such and such run, or, you know, that's such and such run, right?

I mean, that's basically the same, right? You know, as far as a passing game, right, I don't really know the ins and outs as much. You know, as a running back, you know, I had a pretty good gas on the past game and what each position had to do on certain plays. But, you know, I didn't know the exact ins and outs. So I think that some maybe some of the parts where I think the coordinators might have a little bit more flexibility. I mean, I know that Coach Ferentz is an offensive guy, but he's an offensive line guy. Right. So he's going to be a lot more in tune tune with the run game than he would be a pass game. But I feel like that is a good point. I do feel like the coordinators do play into part of Coach Ferentz's system for the most part.

I mean, granted, Coach Davis came from – he's a Texas coordinator for a long time. Obviously, we weren't running the type of things that those guys could run. Obviously, we didn't have the type of athletes that those guys had. We didn't have a Vince Young. Weird, yeah. Right? We didn't have the type of athletes that those guys had either, right? So, you know, we're going to be limited in that type of, you know, space for sure.

we're going to be limited in that type of, you know, space for sure. But, you know, obviously you look at, you compare, you know, the Texas, his Texas offense to Iowa offense, right. They're obviously looked like two different offenses and I'm sure, you know, coach Davis's philosophies probably, you know, hadn't changed drastically between those times, right. It was probably just dealing with the personnel that he had and, you know, really the type of offense and style that Coach Ferris really wants to run.

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this question will be pretty, we have two questions left. My legitimate, this is from Brandon Walker. My legitimate question is, will KF make a decision at quarterback for 2022 early enough to allow other guys to transfer? I think we can both speculate on this.

I'm going to say no. It sounds like Kirk wants to have a quarterback battle. I mean, it sounds like he's very okay going into the offseason with the quarterback battle. I think you also have to look at the fact that Iowa only has three scholarship quarterbacks on their roster. They don't want to go into spring ball with two scholarship quarterbacks. I don't think Kirk is going to intentionally hurt a guy's opportunities,

but I also don't think he's incapable of being selfish. I think that that's for the, for the betterment of the football team, you want all the quarterbacks there. I want to get your thoughts on that. Yeah. You know, I feel like like it sometimes i guess it depends i mean again i keep coming back to like like when i was there in 2014 right um you know they made that decision yeah jake was i mean jake was the quarterback um basically right the entire year right we go through you obviously didn't have the season we wanted we go through bowl prep and you know we decided to make this decision that we're gonna end, you know, he didn't have the season we wanted. We go through bowl prep and, you know, we decide to make this decision that we're going to end up, you know,

end up moving to CJ, you know, moving forward. And I know he had put I think he had let those guys know he let like Jake know, like moving forward. I think like pretty much like we're almost right after that game because it was pretty soon. It was like, yeah, we're going to be going with cj um you know really moving forward and i'm pretty sure like he had put out like uh or like i would put out like a first look depth chart or something like that if i got the new year what's going to look like going into spring ball and i think he did that early just to let everyone know like hey cj is going to be cj is going to be the guy um moving forward and you know obviously you know jake was going to be a senior at that point.

So, you know, he gave himself time to go ahead and transfer, put his name out there. And, you know, lo and behold, ended up, you know, working his way out to Michigan. But he managed to have an NFL career, too. Yeah, yeah. And it helped him. Yeah, I mean, it really did. It really did help him have an NFL career because, I mean, again, Jake had a fantastic year that last year, you know, at Michigan.

So I think it really just depends, you know, how strongly Coach Ferentz and the offensive staff feels about their quarterbacks, you know, moving forward, right? I mean, who knows, right? I mean, they could come out tomorrow and be like, hey, we're going with Joey, right, moving forward right i mean i mean who knows right i mean they could come out tomorrow and be like hey we're going with we're going with joey right moving forward right and you know we'll just you know deal with that deal with the rest later which i mean i'm pretty sure that's not gonna happen but you know um i mean i felt i know at that point in time they felt really strongly about um you know cj and you know his future as iowa quarterback and

i don't know that they feel that way really with any of the guys you know right now so you know they probably do let it go into the spring let it be a competition um but you know i don't know if you know if either of the guys were going to want to deal with that. I mean, obviously it seems like Spencer's kind of, he has it, you know, really until, you know, something says otherwise. So, you know, Alex is obviously in a weird spot right now where, you know, he might be thinking about like, am I going to be able to get over, you know, this hump of Spencer, you know, who seems to have a longer leash than I do. So, you know, he could decide to transfer out.

Who knows, right? But I think this year, knowing this position, no one's really taking the bull by the horn. So it is something that's going to have to be a decision that's going to be made kind of throughout spring ball and then fall camp. Yeah, it'll be really interesting to see what alex does i i personally if i were alex i think i would be gone unless i got a true reassurance that i am the

starter going forward or that i am the starter and i have to lose my job to not be the starter i just um as a if i were in, trying to put myself in those shoes and I got the opportunity to start, I felt like I played pretty well against Northwestern. I felt like against Minnesota and Nebraska, maybe there were some issues I had, but you could also look back at Spencer, his first year, and he had very similar issues. But then they go right back to Spencer. I would be looking at possibly transferring that that would just be me um whatever happens i wish every player the best uh with what they do but it's it'll be really interesting something we're gonna be talking

about for a while um i've kept you for a long time i have my last question and i promise i'll let you let you go with sean um from jason cashman he's and it's uh cash underscore man underscore la i think uh he said i i don't i'm not very good with twitter handles man um he said let's talk quarterback development iowa develops linemen kickers tight ends and corners safety basically everyone on the offense everyone on the whole team besides wide receivers um and quarterbacks but he said but quarterback development has always been a weakness what gives um i think you've got to quickly give out the fact that probably the offense is really difficult to to get down but i'll let you kind of take it away yeah i mean that that that really was i mean we answered that a little bit earlier i mean i think a big part of it is because i mean the offense is complex i mean mean, it is hard to learn. I mean, if I showed you guys, you know, one of my old playbooks and was like,

here, go out here, learn these plays, and then go run the offense against, you know, another Power 5 team, right? I mean, most people aren't going to be able to grasp that, you know, very quickly, right? Even though, I mean, we've had really, really smart guys, you know, at the quarterback position. Right. I mean, I mean, when I was there, I mean, all the quarterbacks that we have are really, really smart. So like a neuroscience major or something crazy, right. Yeah.

It was something like that. Yeah. I mean, the guys are crazy, crazy smart. Right. So is it, it is a difficult playbook to learn. And I really, I truly do think that is a big piece of why, you know, that, that, that lack of, you know, development that you see with the quarterbacks is, is a thing, you know, cause it is hard to grasp. And, you know, there's a lot of different things that are going on in every single play, right? There's a lot of checks. I mean, there's a lot of, you know, changing of blitz protections and all these different things right i mean it's really it really is uh very similar to an nfl offense and i mean it's why you know i had no problems you know picking up an nfl offense because you know iowa stuff is very similar in the sense where

there's a lot of responsibilities for different guys. So I feel like that does make it difficult for the quarterbacks, though, to pay fast and have the development. And then, you know, I can't really speak on, you know, what their type of coaching that they're getting from, you know, quarterback coaches. Right. I mean, when I was there, Coach Davis was the quarterback coach and the OC, you know, right now, I think Coach O'Keefe is the quarterback coach. So like, you know, I don't I don't know what's going on in those rooms and, um, the discussions that are being had. Um, so I can't, I can't really, I can't speak on it because, you know, frankly, I just, I feel like, does sometimes, you know, make some of the guys just play a little bit slower, right? They don't want to make the mistake, which I think is a big piece of, you know, why they play so slow at times, why their decision-making is slow, why the passes are sometimes slow, because, again, they don't want to make that mistake.

They don't want to throw that interception, right? And there's so much going on with the offense that again they can't play um at the speed that they that they would like to yeah um and i think that to add on to that uh in college you only have so much time that you're allowed with your coaches and if you're spending that time installing a playbook and helping them understand the reads they're supposed to be going through and what they're supposed to be mentally processing as a quarterback you can't spend as much time on fundamentals that's how a tim tebow gets out of florida and still throws with his arm all in a weird spot and has like a whole wind-up going to it that's why nate stanley was working with

tony racciopi that's why spencer petrus is working with tony racopi. That's why Spencer Petras is working with Tony Raciopi. That's why Alex Padilla works with Tim Jenkins of Jenkins Elite out here in Denver. That's a lot of it. I feel like, too, when you're talking about how complex the offense is, now you're spending your first year and a half teaching these guys how to run the offense. You don't even get a chance to really work on some of these other fundamentals as much as maybe you could in another system. So I think that was a great response. Do you have three extra minutes?

Yeah. I want to play a quick game with you. I want to have you guess the major of Iowa quarterbacks. I just looked them all up real quick. Yeah. All right. All right. So I'm going to give you the major,

and I want to see if you can guess which quarterback it is. We're going to go back to the, the Ricky Stansy era. So it's going to be Ricky, James Vandenberg, CJ, Jake, Nate, and we'll even throw in Spencer here. All right. Jeez. Yeah, I know. All right. Guess these majors are, I guess these quarterbacks. So who was the interdepartmental studies, otherwise known as business major business major cj uh no that was uh that was ricky actually i was gonna i was that

was that was literally my second guess i was gonna say it was either cj or ricky i was like those two are definitely like business guys. Yeah. You're going to love, okay. I'll just give you this one then. Who was leisure studies major? Oh, that's got to be CJ. Yep. Yeah.

I was like, you're too on this one. That was too easy. All right. Human physiology. Human phys. Nate? No. Wow.

You are. But I will say you are close with these ones. So that was actually James Vandenberg. James. James. Yeah. All actually James Vandenberg. James, James. Yeah. All right. Microbiology. Oh, that's gotta be Jake.

Yeah, that was definitely Jake. That's gotta be Jake. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. I have another interdepartmental studies major. Interdepartmental. Okay. Basically business.

Yeah. Spencer? Yep. That was a good call yeah and then I'm actually gonna throw Alex into this one as well we have two left we have neuroscience major oh that's gotta be Nate that is Alex really Alex is a neuroscience major she She's a smart guy. Yeah. All right. The final one, physical therapy. Okay.

So that's neat. Yeah. Yeah. So physical therapy, human physiology is like, wow, you were like, you're getting the right guy. Just like slightly, slightly off. Yeah. Yeah.

That's funny. That's crazy. Cause it being like, uh, yeah. I mean, you just kind of like know the guys. And you're like, I mean, I feel like I could see him doing that for sure. Yeah. For sure. But the leisure studies one with CJ cracks me up.

Because just knowing CJ, I'm like, oh, yeah, that actually makes a ton of sense. Yeah. I don't know CJ personally, but it's like getting the vibe he gives off during like press conferences even on the field i'm like you came here like i'm gonna play football and i'm gonna major in this let's be honest uh kind of a not bogus but one of the easier majors at iowa like i have friends who would die when they studied leisure and sports recreation like one of the easier majors and i'm hopefully gonna make it to the NFL. And if not, then I'll I'll figure it out after that. Right. Yeah.

That's the vibe I got from CJ. That's hilarious. Oh man. Well, the shot, I appreciate this is a lot longer episode than normal, but I appreciate you taking the time to talk to us today. I appreciate all of your fantastic insight. You have been an amazing member of this show this whole season. Hopefully we can have you back on next year as well my man any last word for let you go for for the next eight months no no just excited for 2022 and what the the year brings for both myself and the hawks so um without

further ado go hawks and see you all next time hey man i appreciate you a lot lashawn have a fantastic uh eight months. We'll talk soon. And as always, like you said, let's go Hawks.