Locked On Hawkeyes - Daily Podcast On Iowa Hawkeyes Football & Basketball - INSIDER: Kirk Ferentz's SURPRISING Adaptability Exposed | Can Iowa DOMINATE in the NIL Era?

Starting point is 00:00:00 Iowa football has landed another four star prospect as Julian Manson makes his commitment to the Hawkeyes. Kirk Farrant's doing work in the transfer portal. You are Locked On Hawkeyes, your daily podcast on the Iowa Hawkeyes. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Welcome in, I'm Trent Condon, and this is the Locked On Hawkeyes Podcast. Thanks for being with us and making Locked On Hawkeyes

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Starting point is 00:00:56 Money. Take control of your finances with Monarch Money. Use code LOCKDOWNCOLLege at MonarchMoney.com for 50% off your first year. Well, we have heard more and more about Iowa basketball, an opportunity to see the team and talk to some of the players yesterday for the Iowa beat. We'll talk a little bit about that and some news and notes coming out, including Iowa basketball still looking for one more addition to their basketball roster. We'll take a look at that. Scott Dockerman will join us from the athletic as he had a sit-down interview with the head man Kirk Farrant's his takeaways from his conversation with Kirk. We begin today on the football front as Julian Manson has made his commitment to the Iowa Hawkeye program. Now this comes as no surprise. Julian Manson, the son of a former Hawkeye player,

Starting point is 00:01:42 Jason Manson, long been speculated that this was going to be the case Still though a four-star prospect from on three rankings This is a guy that was also a four-star already ESPN a high three-star at 24-7 in rivals This is a high-impact player and what I like most about Julian is the versatility that comes along with him and ability for a young man that has played a multitude of different positions. The size that he comes in with already six for 220 pounds. You can see the physicality. And when you watch Julian Manson, even early in his career, when he was playing as our underclassmen over at Iowa City West, you

Starting point is 00:02:19 saw a guy that just has an incredibly unique skill set. Now Iowa has him targeted as a linebacker and that's where they believe he is going to start his career. We've also talked a lot about him on that position at the linebacker spot and just how much depth there is and young depth at the linebacker group that's going to be growing here over the next couple of years. But with the athlete like Julian Manson and the versatility that he plays with you know I liked a lot of things that I saw in his film from the tight end position his ability to go up in space and make Plays and may be able to build him into something like that

Starting point is 00:02:53 You wonder also with that frame at already 220 225 pounds Now if he's gonna get too big for a linebacker, and that's a question that you have Does this guy become more of a defensive end Is that a position that makes sense for him? versatility high level ability and what other takeaway after reading about the commitment from Manson is What I was doing in this class so this is from the on three rankings and their top 300 that they have of college of high school football players the class of 300 that they have of college of high school football players the class of

Starting point is 00:03:30 2026 I went out with the commitment of Manson as two top 100 players. That's good for Iowa I mean getting two top 100 guys is something that you're shooting for But it's usually not the baseline as it pertains to recruiting but they got rare it and Manson both in the top 100 But speaking the top 300 Thomas Parliament Lyndon Nielsen six guys in the top 100 but speaking of the top 300, Thomas, Parliament, Lyndon, Nielsen, six guys in the top 300, that's Iowa doing work. And you couple it with the recruiting rankings right now. So Iowa moved up to number 31 in the rankings with this commitment and I know a lot of people say 31, you know that's normally the range. Realistically, Iowa football for high school recruiting, they're usually that range to about 25 to 35 and there's been a few

Starting point is 00:04:06 outliers there. Go back over 20 years ago, there was a huge outlier when Iowa had a top 10 recruiting class, but that is not normal for Iowa football. When they start to stretch outside of that 35 range, then you get a little bit concerned. They go above it, you're feeling pretty good. But what other note in there? When you look through these these rankings You look at this Iowa team and just looking at the teams that are around them You know the teams that precede them in the rankings Arizona State of 30 Cal a 29 Rutgers at 20 Well, those teams respectively have 18 21 and 20 commitments what Iowa just has 12 commitments in the class now There's also a narrative that you can poke a hole in that and say well

Starting point is 00:04:45 That's a problem because I was targeting a big number this season They're looking in the high school ranks to maybe bring in a 20 to 23 guys And that's been a number that's been thrown out and that is a problem when you're looking at this class But hey, I was done great work again We'll wait a couple of more decisions that come out out of the recruiting weekend But really like out of Julian Manson what they have so I talked a little bit about this recruiting class in the way That is shaping up and just some of the high-level talent that Iowa is bringing in starting with Jim Rier Offensive line class and you know this offensive line class that has been just so good for

Starting point is 00:05:19 Iowa throughout the course of this season I like to take a look at the offer list, you know Who are the other guys that have been offered as you're going and getting in the race for them? And it's not exactly fair for a couple of guys. We'll get into that momentarily, but rare four star kid has athleticism plays lacrosse in high school and Iowa beats out Oklahoma and Penn State and Auburn. I mean, when you're talking about that, you get excited about a commitment Hudson parliament Parliament another part of that Offensive line class coming in this year South Dakota kid, Nebraska, Minnesota

Starting point is 00:05:52 Iowa State Kansas K state Georgia Tech Texas Tech all involved for Hudson Parliament and I would gets the commitment there you know when you look at Julian Manson his Recruiting profile and his offer list with scholarships is not immense and certainly immense as it would be. Minnesota, Anza State, Miami, very good, Arizona. But you wonder if his dad wasn't on the staff at Iowa, if he wasn't a legacy recruit, I think you'd see a whole lot more offers there. And then he finally get to maybe the crown jewel of this recruiting class out of the top-end talent and that's Carson Nielsen and Nielsen from Waterloo had offers from Iowa State K state, Nebraska, Minnesota, Missouri Those upper Midwest offers Wisconsin, but also had a Penn State offer also had a Tennessee offer

Starting point is 00:06:37 And if he wouldn't have committed over a year ago What it would have looked like for him now the Ohio State's the Michigan's of the world I think would have been involved with Carson Nielsen. This offensive line class is incredibly good. Marcelo Vitti is another guy I really like. We talked about case and Thomas who made his commitment the other day from Sioux City,

Starting point is 00:06:56 healing what they have in this class. They're still looking, still going to be working and we're going to see in this different era of recruiting. What this going to look like going forward? But great news as a legacy recruit, Julian Manson makes his commitment to the Iowa Hawkeyes speaking of Iowa football the headband Kirk Ferentz coming back for year number 27 Scott Dockerman from the athletic had an opportunity to talk with Kirk Ferentz

Starting point is 00:07:18 We talked a little bit with Doc about that interview what he learned his takeaways and some things you might not know about Kirk Ferentz that's coming your way plus we got Iowa basketball talk But stock talking with Scott document next on his interview with Kirk Ferentz and some ins and outs of college football Are we setting up a battle with the SEC and Big Ten? We'll get into that with Doc next as we continue on the locked on Hawkeyes podcast into that with Docnext as we continue on the Locked On Hawkeyes Podcast. Guys, you've probably heard of Viagra or Cialis, maybe even tried them. But if you're looking for something beyond the usual pill, it's time to meet RUGiAT Ready. RUGiAT Ready is a next-gen prescription treatment designed

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Starting point is 00:09:02 do not undergo FDA safety effectiveness or manufacturing review. Please visit RUGIA website for full safety information. Scott Dockerman coming up, he joins us now. Great piece that published today, an exclusive one-on-one sit down with Iowa head football coach, Kirk Farrz, who will enter season number 27. Hard to believe those two coaches been there as long as they were, obviously

Starting point is 00:09:31 Hayden Fry before him and Kirk Ferentz for the last 27 and Doc with us now to talk about his piece. Scott, well done. Read it this morning when it was published and you're 1000% right of all the quote, you know, older, longer in the tooth coaches in college football, Ferran seemingly would be the one that was least willing to change that that was perception, you know, earlier in his career. But he's fully embracing what this NIL is doing.

Starting point is 00:09:57 In fact, we think back to, you know, his influence on the swarm, getting jumpstarted under a previous athletic director who was really dragging his feet in Barta. But Kirk Ferentz got it at the time and continues to get it now and he did adapt, did he not Scott Dockerman? Well done on your piece. Scott Dockerman Well, thank you. And yes, I would say that Kirk has certainly made everybody kind of their eyebrows, feral or whatever you want to say, because what you kind of expected from him and maybe in a whether it's perception or just kind of what we based it on from our interactions in the past was that they wouldn't embrace the portal, that they'd be really resistant to change.

Starting point is 00:10:37 And in fact, it's kind of the other way around. He's been more invigorated by the changes. And some of it has just been kind of through his own experiences, but with losing players and the portal and what have you. But some of it also is he is very much influenced by the NFL. And yes, he was there in the 90s, so it sounds like it was an eternity ago. A lot of people it was. But he also has a lot of people it was but but you know he also has you know a lot of

Starting point is 00:11:06 interactions with people in the NFL on a daily basis I mean his son is a coach there as one of them still was a coach there and he has great relationships probably better relationships with a lot of NFL coaches than anyone that's college peers so so how you know he's kind of been astute in how NFL teams handle, uh, free agency and how it works. And he's kind of taken that mindset to, to this. And you know, he had, uh, you know, one period I kind of documented it back in 2022, they lost several players at a two day span and it kind of hit him.

Starting point is 00:11:41 It kind of shook him up. And then he said, you know, I didn't write this part of it, but he, you know, he went to practice and then he saw the rest of his players practicing hard. They were getting ready for a bowl game. And then he's like, you know what? That's, that's, that's what this is all about. This is what I really enjoy. And if other players don't want to be here, that's fine. We're, we'll find other players. And then he, you know, did it. And as long as they kind of fit what he wants, he's all for it. than he did. And as long as they kind of fit what he wants, he's all for it. He has evolved and he has changed and maybe it's slower than people want, but you're not going to last in this business 27 years without doing that. Sitting down with him, and I know you've done this a number of times, what is he like? Ken and I had

Starting point is 00:12:19 him on the radio, interviewed him, Big Ten Media Days and like, but what is he like just you and him sitting down and having a he like just you and him, sitting down and having a conversation like that? Because yeah, we can see the quotes that you take out of there, but what's the conversation like with nearly 70 year old Kirk Farrant's now today? I've always enjoyed my conversations with Kirk

Starting point is 00:12:38 away from everybody, whether it's a press conference or even at things like media days. Because he's kind of grown to coach speak like a lot of people are, but away from it, you realize, first of all, how smart he is. And I think he tries to be very self-deprecating and an osh when it comes to, I don't think know how to do this or whatever. But he's very much in tune with just about every topic. And, and it's, it's kind of fun to see, but then he also has some really interesting thoughts and ideas on a lot of different things that,

Starting point is 00:13:13 um, really need to be brought out. I mean, remember, you know, this is the longest tenured head coach currently in college football. And he's been part of the college game. He started that even as a grad grad assistant 1980 at Pittsburgh, which was really good to even then. He's been here today. He's seen a lot of different things and he has ideas. He really communicates it well in those one-on-ones and side conversations even more so. I think it's impressive to be around him when he does kind of talk like this. And the one thing about him that really comes through when you get a chance to talk to him

Starting point is 00:13:51 in those situations is he's very humble. And he understands that he doesn't have all the answers. He tries to have them, but he has principled standards. And those are things that are non-negotiable with him. But I think that's probably why he's been relatively as successful as he has been for all these years. No, obviously, doing talk radio stuff, you speculate, right? That's half of his job, seemingly. And he just wonders when's it going to end. He's under contract through 2030.

Starting point is 00:14:29 Obviously, when you pointed out your last sense, I've got permission for my wife. So I thought as far as when it's time to leave, do you think he's got another contract in him docking? If he got to that point, would he go year to year? And I'm not sure you can do that in college athletics. Do you think he's got one more contract in him? Yeah, and I would only be speculating this situation. No, I don't think necessarily there's another eight year contract or what have you there.

Starting point is 00:14:54 Although I wouldn't want to speak for Neil Cornrich who could probably squeeze that. Although certainly could have squeezed it out of Gary Bartlett. Oh yeah. I don't know about Beth Gatz, but I think at this point what the smart play is for Iowa and for Kirk, because he knows that it's not gonna go on forever. You know, he feels good enough today at 70,

Starting point is 00:15:14 but he's like, I don't know what it feels like to be 72, 73, 74, whatever. And that's true because sometimes things just kind of fall off a cliff when you get to an older age, you know, physically or mentally or what have you. So, um, I think it's probably under that. Just a continual extension, you know, one year, you know, you get the end of this year, go to another year, you know, and maybe not increase the buyout part of it or just maintain it, but just kind of perpetually just kind of take that one year at a time approach at the end. A lot of schools do that with their coaches. I think that would be the right route because I mean, whether he gets to the finishes, the

Starting point is 00:15:52 contract, I'm not sure, but you do want to provide that kind of stability for him in recruiting. You know, even though it's maybe not as imperative as it once was with the transfer portal and players leaving really good players leaving after a couple of years. I think you do want to have that proof that he's still our guy, no matter what. Doc, you know the narrative out there. You're now a national writer and you work with a bunch of national people there at the athletic. What would it take at this juncture of his tenure for the narrative to flip a little bit that he's not what you

Starting point is 00:16:26 talked about at the beginning of the piece. Is it the offense catching fire, passing game, catching up and this team makes a run and goes nine and three, 10 and two slips into the play? I mean, is that what it's going to take? And even would that be enough to change the big perception that's out there about Kirk Berenson and the Iowa football program? I do think it'd probably be the offense. It would have to be explosive. It would have to be explosive more than just once. You know, it couldn't just, you know, like the Ohio State game in 17, you know, you know, that's awesome for Iowa fans and stuff, but you're also the next week,

Starting point is 00:17:02 you can't have 66 yards of total offense either. You're going to have to be at a pretty good clip for most of this season, for it to really change. I mean, it might mean winning a shootout against Indiana. It might mean just simply getting a win against Penn State. It might mean losing to Oregon, but not 48-14, but 41 to 34. Just so you feel like when Iowa's offense is out there, and I think fans would agree to this, when Iowa's offense is out there, they have a chance to score every time they

Starting point is 00:17:33 got the ball. And if that can be the case and they look kind of exciting doing it, but still maintain their standards and principles, then I think the perception would change quite a bit very quickly. And I think there'd be a new eye cast on Iowa, which is, you know, they're remarkably consistent. I think very few teams are as consistent as Iowa. And they've had some really nice peaks over the last 10 years. You've had a 12-win season, you have what, three different 10-win seasons.

Starting point is 00:18:03 That's pretty strong accomplishments. Never dipped below eight wins in any of those years. But I think you want to win a big one, and I think you want to showcase your full potential, which on offense they really haven't done really in a long, long time. Yeah, I'm glad that part made the peace talk when he kind of reflected on the past. I think the quote was, I'm proud of what our, and prayer phrasing, I'm proud of what our record is over the last 10 years. And he should be, I mean, you stack it up. There's not a lot of programs that can say that.

Starting point is 00:18:34 I know fans want to win the big 10 and they want to, you know, they, they, they want to reach the pinnacle. I get that. But when you stack up what Iowa has done in college football under the Ference era and particularly these last 10 years. I'm glad that he brought that up. And he does it, as he said, we don't advocate a lot for ourselves, but the record is what it is and it's good. Yeah, it is. And I think that's something he needs to be, you know, maybe they do need to, you know, trumpet it a little bit more.

Starting point is 00:19:06 And, and of course, but, but again, part of that problem with, with Kirk is, or with the Iowa's program has been the offense. It was so dreadful that they became a punching line, punch line for a long time. And, and you've got to get past that. I mean, you know, in today's world and whether it's people I work with or whatever, if you're bad on one side of the ball, you better be bad on defense because offense, if you're bad there, you really stick out. And I think anytime Iowa would beat its chest and say, hey, we've been this good, we've

Starting point is 00:19:39 been this good, it's like, oh yeah, but your offense has been so bad. And you employed your son as the offensive coordinator for so long, it would kind of take away any of that thunder. And that's why I think this year is really kind of important for Iowa from perception as much as anything. Cause if Tim Lester, if Mark Granowski, if this offense can average 34 points a game, which last year was 27, it was a heck of a jump,

Starting point is 00:20:03 12 point jump. But if you can get past 30 points a game, 34 points a game, and be very competitive and win a couple of those games against 11 win programs, then I think you're looking at a renewed view of him and his era. And I think it just looks good for him. Over to are we getting to a battle with the SEC in the Big Ten three weeks ago? All right, we're gonna have this model for four two two one one. We're gonna have that model Well, maybe it's going to five eleven Is this setting up with yet another alliance falling apart the alliance that we saw back with the Big Ten the Pac-12 and the?

Starting point is 00:20:37 ACC because boy it feels like maybe those the SEC and Big Ten factions aren't as close to the college football playoff and What it's gonna look like then. Maybe we thought just a few weeks back. It's Trent. This is going to linger for a long time. This is, this whole system isn't going to be figured out until next spring. Let's just put it that way. I mean, you know, we can talk about it as much as we want, but they're not going to finalize. In fact, I, you know, I was told, I talked to several people, you know,

Starting point is 00:21:04 close to this and on the Big Ten side and they were like, you know, we just preferred this to happen behind the scenes as opposed out in public. And that's kind of their philosophy, which I don't consider it smart. I think at some point you need to come out and swing it because you're five and one in the postseason, it's the SEC, but everybody thinks it's the other way around because of the way the SEC is talking. I do think that they're closer than it appears. I just think that the SEC got a little bit of a ruborvado in it and it was in an environment where it could kind of express itself.

Starting point is 00:21:40 What it comes down to is the Big Ten's not going to budge unless the SEC on its four game or four team playoff, unless the SEC goes to nine, you know, regular season games. That's just non-negotiable for the Big Ten. And it's between those two. Those two will dictate the future of that and everybody else has to get in line. I mean, it's actually written into the contract. So if they can't agree on anything, it'll just maintain what it is now.

Starting point is 00:22:09 I don't see that happen. I think there'll be 16 teams. And I think they're closer, again, than what you may think. And it actually would be to the Big 12's benefit to get two teams in every year, guaranteed, because it wouldn't have the last couple of years. So I think that they'll eventually get back together and talk it out. But this is just the talking season and it just it kind of takes that over everything.

Starting point is 00:22:30 But it does add a lot to perception and the Big Ten has a long way to go because and it deserves to be in a better spot than what it's put itself. Scott Dockerman for The Athletic Doc. Great piece on Kirk Ferentz. Well done as you normally do. Good stuff, Doc. We'll talk to you next week. Thank you, Scott Dockerman. All right. Thanks for having me. Appreciate it. Good to talk to you, Scott Dockerman as we check in with our buddy from the Athletic. Always great stuff from Scott Dockerman. Appreciate his time as we continue. A lot of football

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Starting point is 00:24:38 Back with you one final time on the lockdown Hawkeyes podcast Thanks for being with us and making lockdown Hawkeyes your first listen every day. Couple of basketball notes from this week as once again Ben McCollum had media availability, couple of players out there. Good to hear from Bennett Sturtz, couple other guys. We'll talk about that more throughout the week. Couple of takeaways though from the Ben McCollum part of the press conference. I think the first one that you definitely have to look at is there is a conversation about Iowa perhaps bringing in another player that they're still open to looking for another player to augment this roster and what that position means.

Starting point is 00:25:14 We've talked a lot about the center position. This is not an overly big team with it. We've gone hand in hand and you every day or snow my affinity for Trevin Yurok and what he's going to be able to do for this team. Not a big role But in a small role initially and I think building upon that but continuing on that level No, is there a big out there look at this point in the transfer portal that Appears to be incredibly unlikely a guy that can also not just help you on the basketball floor

Starting point is 00:25:39 But is a fit for what you're looking for That's gonna be difficult to find he did bring up another port though another Component and that was potentially I will looking for guys that are reclassifying If that is something that is in the works if that's something that maybe coach McCollum has a leg up on Just something to keep an eye on on that front when you're talking about reclassifying That would be a kid that would be going into his high school senior season, but makes the decision that he's going to finish up high school early and then reclassify and come in this year. Just one, two, maybe zero win in the back of your mind. But one of the

Starting point is 00:26:15 favorite parts of the press conference though, has him throw it a little bit of shade at Iowa State and talking about it and probably just cyclone fans trolling is what he was saying. He was talking about it and probably just cyclone fans trolling is what he was saying. It's uh, he was talking about the social media environment and talking about you know how negative it can be but it's fun to have that you know a little quick like Ben McCollum was not going after cyclone fans and and if they get butt hurt over that comment I mean come on time to grow up but and that aside it's a rivalry I get that but adding a little bit of juice back into it you, the Iowa Iowa State basketball rivalry it's different than the football one I get that because

Starting point is 00:26:48 football loss can ruin your season a football loss as we saw a year ago just Took that whole football team off the path on the last second field goal by the Cyclones and basketball you can lose to your rival and still have a great season and You go back to last year in Carver. It was one of the better environments of the year and still it wasn't even a sold-out building Just the hope that Ben McCallum could get this program back to a level that we've seen and not just in terms of wins because Framicaffrey won it win at the level we wanted to see the last two years, but I got one basketball games But just getting back that connectivity to Iowa basketball in this state and having a guy with the background that he has

Starting point is 00:27:31 the knowledge that he has at the Iowa basketball program and What it's gonna take and then you couple with the guy that has just won. He's been an incredibly high winner At all levels of basketball. It gets you excited and I certainly am about this team next season We're gonna talk with John Bowen camp. He was at that media availability a little bit later on this week We're gonna have that for you. Also Going back to a week ago at a chance to talk with David Eichel who was at the open practice We get some news and notes coming in from him lots going on here next week. I will be away We do have a couple of special editions though, coming your way, including crossover editions. Spencer

Starting point is 00:28:07 LaGloughlin from our Lockdown Oregon site. He is going to join me. We'll go back and forth with Oregon and Iowa, what we expect to see in that November matchup. Going to do the same with Jacob Goings from Lockdown Hoosiers as we'll start to preview our matchups coming up this fall. Get you a little bit more knowledge of Oregon, Indiana. We'll continue through the teams We'll do the same with Iowa State. We got a lot of the games Wisconsin, Michigan State whole lot more We'll be doing that here as we do our Crossover summer series and a couple of those coming your way next week here on the program We're not going anywhere the rest of the week We still got you covered a couple more episodes coming your way as we make our way through

Starting point is 00:28:44 June and looking forward to football season right around the corner As always thanks for being with us and making lockdown Hawkeyes your first listen every day Don't forget about the portal Brian doing great work over there keeping you up to date on everything happening in the transfer portal in the recruiting World you can check out the portal on YouTube and wherever you listen to podcasts Make sure you hit subscribe if you're watching this on YouTube. Five star review on the podcast side. It really does help us and help us get in front of more Hawkeye fans. Thanks again for all of you out there.

Starting point is 00:29:13 We'll talk to you again tomorrow. Until then, go Hawks.

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