Locked On Hawkeyes - Daily Podcast On Iowa Hawkeyes Football & Basketball - Iowa Football: Are the Hawkeye wide receivers on the rise in 2024? And Jack McCaffery leaves Iowa

Starting point is 00:00:00 The much maligned Iowa wide receivers were made a big question going into 2024. Could this position group actually be a strength for Iowa football? Today, Locked on Hawkeyes. You are Locked on Hawkeyes, your daily podcast on the Iowa Hawkeyes. Part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day. Hey, welcome in. I'm Trent Condon, and this is the Locked On Hawkeyes podcast. Thanks for making Locked On Hawkeyes your first listen every day.

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Starting point is 00:00:58 That's right. There's something for everyone every day all summer long. Visit FanDuel.com to get started well as we work our way through the football season we will flip the calendar this week to august august camp is here we have football it is going to be here in fact this week we have actual real live football games yes it's preseason of the nfl who cares it's better at least from this vantage point, but it is getting here. And as we count down the days until we'll get our only glimpse of Iowa football for the only time in an actual practice setting, coming up with kids day here in a couple of weeks, we continue to talk about these position groups

Starting point is 00:01:40 and the different avenues of this squad and what's going to make 2024 a chance to be a highly successful year for Iowa football. Look, we know the expectations coming in and expectations have been at times a dirty word for Iowa football. It has been something that throughout the Kirk Ferentz tenure when they've had their most opportunity, I guess you would say, to really close in in a big season, they haven't been able to do that. And there's been a myriad of reasons, and we've talked about a lot of them here throughout these spring and summer months about some of the reasons that it's come to fruition. But when you look at this squad, when we go position by position, today in the spotlight is the wide receiver position.

Starting point is 00:02:18 Look, it's much maligned. And what it has been decimated to over the last couple of years is just absolutely unthinkable. Iowa wide receiver in comparison to tight end, offensive line, defensive line, defensive backs, heck, even quarterbacks, it's at a different level. Amir Smith-Marset's been able to hang around. He was the first guy in a long time to be able to be any kind of impact player at the next level in the NFL. We've seen guys get cups of coffee, but I mean, we think back of some of the best wide receivers of the Kirk Ferentz era. We think of

Starting point is 00:02:50 a Marvin McNutt. You go back and you talk about a Mo Brown or a CJ Jones. Those guys didn't have a whole lot of chance at the league at the wide receiver position. Now, this isn't trying to paint things that all of a sudden I was got to figure it out at the wide receiver position, because frankly, that's not even close to truthful. And we're not going to try to steer you in that direction, try to say something about this group that just isn't true, because this team does have a long ways to go still to be even minimally competent at the big time level. They're a long ways from that. However, there are reasons for optimism. We talked about last week, if you are an everydayer, you know about this. Wide receivers listed. I think the excitement

Starting point is 00:03:36 about Jared Bowie, a young man is a redshirt freshman out of Florida. You get that component backing him up. You have Howard, big wide receiver, has that prototypical X size. We get excited about that. So there's six wide receivers that they have listed. The other component to that is Jacob Gill, who comes in at least out of this group with about as much Big Ten experience as anybody. He comes in from Northwestern, and he's not even listed in this 2D. Now, this is not some knock on Jacob Gill.

Starting point is 00:04:03 I think more than anything, it just shows you that, A, they're happy with the guys that they have, but also, he hasn't gone through practice. And that's a Kubota two-two. You know, the quarterback position is a little bit different with Brandon Sullivan coming in, and he's being listed as the number three. What I think many of us anticipate is going to be ultimately the backup quarterback position. Well, let's talk about this group. as we kind of dive through a little bit deeper and we look at this wide receiver group and the reasons for optimism. We start, as we always have to, with Caleb Brown. Caleb Brown has, I guess, as much fast twitch, as much athleticism. This is a guy that was a high-level running back in high school. And Ohio State and many other programs across the country saw him and saw probably not going to be a guy that can translate at that level as a guy at the running

Starting point is 00:04:49 back position. But because of that size, the speed, the versatility that he has, he can be a slot receiver. He can be a guy that lines up wide and can be an impactful player. So impactful impact, in fact, that Ohio State two years ago, when they had as loaded of a wide receiver room as maybe anybody in college football, what did they do? They played him. In fact, we found out they played him five games, and now he is a junior as opposed to a sophomore in terms of eligibility. We just found that out this summer, which is disappointing. But that aside, look, Caleb Brown is going to have to be a big-time wide receiver.

Starting point is 00:05:23 Look, Caleb Brown is going to have to be a big-time wide receiver. If this is going to be at least a C-plus this season, I think that's starting out on a curve by any means. But if they could even do that this year, that would be a win for this Iowa offense. And Caleb Brown has to be a big part of that. We saw at the end of last season what he could do. Just get the ball in his hands. He does everything exactly right at the wide receiver position. Still, no. Remember, this is a guy that started learning. But because he can be such a high-embed player, Caleb Brown has to be a huge part of what

Starting point is 00:05:54 they do this season. Seth Anderson is the one that's odd. Seth Anderson is a guy that I had high expectations for a year ago. Has the big grip grab early on in the season. In the opener, looks like the Iowa offense is going to be able to hit that 25 points per game. Brian's going to save his job. Everything's going to, well, yeah, we know how that obviously turned out after that. Now, continue to hear, and I've never heard anything officially, kind of what the injury is. But that Seth Anderson was banged up last year. That he played through a lot of injuries a year ago. Because there were so many times when he was out there, but he just wasn't impactful.

Starting point is 00:06:33 Blame the quarterback? Absolutely. McNamara, before he was injured, wasn't very good, and we know what happened after he was injured with the ACL tear, just how hideous it got at the position. So yes, you can blame that. When you're talking about this wide receiver group, that's very easy to do. It's easy to point to some of the ineptitudes of the other part. Offensive line, just still not good enough. And certainly in pass blocking, we saw this past season, they weren't good enough in that avenue to make them a high impact team on that side of the football. Running the ball was better.

Starting point is 00:06:59 Still have a long, long ways to go, though, as a pass blocking unit. If this Iowa offensive line is going to take a step forward and go hand-in-hand with this wide receiver group. And he could, of course, blame the play caller. And we've gone down that path many, many times before. And we'll stay away. So we got Seth Anderson out there. Again, I would love to see a healthy season, what he can do. You put up that numbers, and I don't care what level you're playing at, you do it as a youngster as he did at Charleston Southern. I think that's eye-opening being at the FCS. And remember, it's not like everybody else on his team.

Starting point is 00:07:31 Well, you know, this guy moved up to Iowa and played Big Ten football. You know, he's just beating up on everybody else. Well, remember his teammates too. You know, we're also playing at that level. It's not like he was off alone on an island doing this thing against a bunch of miscreants. That's not the case at all with Seth Anderson. So I'm excited for him and to see what he can do this year. And then we continue to hear about Caleb Weachin and what he's going to be part of this offense. He's going to be, you know, the Riley McCarron, the guy that just catches

Starting point is 00:07:59 everything. He's got incredible speed. That's incredibly important for Iowa you need to have those fast guys out there being able to stretch the defense and if you're going to try to stretch the defense from time to time if you do that great are you going to take a shot or is it just a guy out there that's just running a fly pattern just running a nine straight up the field but you're never going to throw it to him and because of the defense in turn, they're not being stretched. You can't just run routes with guys. There has to be reasons behind it. And that was something I thought the former offensive coordinator really struggled with was not early in the game, but then taking what you did, what you learned in the early portions of the game, or what you were to set up in the early portions of the game,

Starting point is 00:08:46 then actually use them later on. Use them in the second, the third, the fourth quarter. It's one thing to set up a play, but to do it continuously. And if you're just going to be running nine patterns straight up the field, and nobody's ever going to throw the ball down there, you're going to look like Iowa's offense has looked for the last two and a half seasons. Some names. I mentioned Jacob Gill, too. That's another one. Again, if Jacob Gill could have 15 catches. In fact, let's do that. When we continue here, let's talk about some realistic numbers for this wide receiver group. Because at times,

Starting point is 00:09:20 I talk about the wide receivers and we get a little excited. I think there's some juice there. And then people come running back and say, well, well, well, these guys stink. There's no chance. Where should our expectations be? We're going to take a look at those numbers and what the expectations are. Plus, a little bit of buzz happening in Iowa basketball land. Not for the great things. We'll talk about that here.

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Starting point is 00:13:02 Trey Conner back with you once again here on the Lockdown Hawkeyes podcast. Thanks for making Lockdown Hawkeyes your first listen every day. So we're talking about expectation. The wider group, it has been inconsistent. It's been downright bad. A couple of years ago, they were down to what, three scholarship wide receivers at one point during August camp. It's been dreadful. I mean, there's no two ways about it. It's been a disappointment. Recruiting has been awful. Yet here we are. You still got to play the position, right? I can't go out there with one running back and four tight ends. Well, they can. In fact, they did it a few times a season ago.

Starting point is 00:13:33 It's not a recipe for offensive success. How about we just put it that way? Let's simplify things as much as possible on that front. Not what many teams are going to do in 2024 to win football games, certainly at the big time level. All right, that aside. So we talked about some of the players, some of the guys, and this is where I like to go and just look at where your expectations are.

Starting point is 00:13:54 I believe that Caleb Brown, even as he is suspended for the first game of the season, I believe that he's going to have a big year. I believe that he is going to put together a huge season by Iowa wide receiver standards in 2024. Again, what does that mean? If I put numbers out like this, Caleb Brown, over 11 regular season games, catches 40 balls for 585 yards and five touchdowns. Does that sound crazy to you? Does that seem too high? Does that seem too low? Because I think that is a solid season

Starting point is 00:14:28 because of what we've seen out of an Iowa wide receiver. If he puts that together, I'd be happy. But I know other people hear those numbers. They scoff. They roll their eyes. They say that's dreadful. If that's what you're looking for from your number one wide receiver,

Starting point is 00:14:41 that's why you're the 131st ranked offense a year ago at all of college football. And you'd be right, but that shows you where our expectations are. Jacob Gill, if he catches 20 balls this year, he surpasses what he's going to find in his collegiate career. And I think that's a realistic baseline. Seth Anderson, I have a little bit higher, kind of in between those two guys.

Starting point is 00:15:03 30 catches, something like that, maybe 35. If he can be healthy all season long, could he be the guy that suddenly is up there and catches? Five, six, seven, eight touchdown passes in a year. And we have all these conversations, and we don't bring tight end because it's our position group. Maybe we should, though. Maybe this should be a part of it that should be a deeper part of the conversation, is that wide receiver position, because they do go into it. Or maybe that's just because we know how bad it's been at this group and we're grasping for straws for anything to happen.

Starting point is 00:15:34 A couple other guys. I think the most difficult one for me is Weechin. So we saw him a year ago. And so we saw him a year ago. He was used exclusively in the jet sweep game. They tried a couple of times in the passing game to get the ball to him. It didn't go very well. There was, I think, a couple of plays that were almost intercepted. So it hasn't gone well on that front. So you're left kind of with that part of it.

Starting point is 00:16:05 He's probably the most difficult one for me to put a number. If you had to put a number out, over under number of catches for him this year, is it 12? One a game? Is that too high? Is that too low? That's one that I'm struggling with. And maybe the most intriguing to me that we're going a little bit deeper down the wide receiver position is Terrell Washington Jr. Just because much like the skill set of a Caleb Brown and how that's gone, I think that's another portion that you look at and see, all right, are they making a specific role for that slight slot type of receiver? Is that what we're going to see from Terrell Washington? Is he going to be a guy that can go out and do that?

Starting point is 00:16:39 We talked about the two registered freshmen this year with Jarrett Bowie. What's the number for him? Is it 25 catches? If Jarrett Bowie goes out this year and averages even two and a half catches a game, how about that? 36 catches this year. Averages, you know, a standard 15 yards per reception, has four touchdowns. For Iowa standards, again, that's highly successful. And here's the scary thing. You kind of go the other direction. And if he would have that kind of season, that transfer portal,

Starting point is 00:17:09 you wonder about that component to it too. Is there any young guys that are there that can help out this season? Could it be a KJ Parker comes in during his freshman campaign? Could he be a guy this year? Reese Vanderzee, we know he certainly got the size as he finished up his high school career

Starting point is 00:17:22 and wrapped things up and doing it in a multitude of different sports. Is he a guy that's able to come in this year? We're just kind of all over the place, which is okay. I mean, that's the reality when we're talking about a group that we don't know, and it goes hand-in-hand now with Tim Lester and what Tim Lester is going to mean for this offense. I know Chad Leistigau had an opportunity, and you'll hear that later this week

Starting point is 00:17:43 if you're a listener to his podcast or radio show on my radio station, KXNO. You'll have an opportunity to hear that. And I know hearing Chad, he was very excited about the interview. I've been sold a bill of goods before. Look, I was not seven, eight years ago now. I was not about having Brian Ferencz be the offensive coordinator. I thought there were too many things that could go poorly and not enough good things that could go in a positive direction. That's where I was.

Starting point is 00:18:17 It wasn't personal. It wasn't in vendetta against him. I just didn't like how it was going to work. And really my biggest thing is what came to fruition. When it came time to fire him, it was going to be incredibly difficult. We saw how difficult it was, but people talked me into it. And I started to go down that line and talk myself into it. Tim Lester, I think you remember, and if you're an everydayer, you do. When he was hired, after it looked like it was down to a couple of candidates for the job, after we found out that Paul Christ had moved on from the job or it just wasn't happening for

Starting point is 00:18:52 whatever reason, we found that out. They were down to the finalist and it goes to Tim Lester. I wasn't happy. I really wasn't. And this is not me buying into a bunch of, I don't know, talking points that come in from the athletic department or anything like that. I think anybody that really knows me, they know the ways that I do things here. That's I'm not going to fall victim to those kind of things. He just said the right things. And he says it in a way that I think makes you believe, makes you believe that this can work. It has worked before. We have seen good offenses under Kirk Ferentz. And I know for young people, it's very difficult to believe

Starting point is 00:19:32 or understand, but yes, it has happened before and it can happen again. Iowa can get back there. In today's environment, can they be what they were 22 years ago, the 2002 team? No, I don't think so. Can they be what they were 22 years ago, the 2002 team? No, I don't think so. I think with the pace of play, the way the teams operate in today's day and age, and remember that defense also gave up some points in its own right, and this defense isn't going to be at that kind of level giving up points. Because of all that, I don't think we're going to see approaching top 25 levels.

Starting point is 00:20:02 Top 50? Probably not even this year. And again, those expectations probably are too high this year. But this is what we went into and what we talked about here today you just you talk yourself into different ways and everybody's perception can be a whole lot different wrapping things up we talked about the Iowa strength of schedule this year and Iowa having a path to make the college football play we'll talk about that path here just a little bit and what some numbers say about Iowa's strength of schedule. Plus, a glimmer of hope. Will there be a McCaffrey once again playing for Fran

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Starting point is 00:21:51 Trent Conant back with you one final time on the Lockdown Hawkeyes podcast. Thanks for making Lockdown Hawkeyes your first listen every day. As we wrap things up here on a Monday, I want to start first with an article that comes in on the football front from Tom Fernelli over at CBSSports.com. Tom, even as I believe in, I don't know what you're trying to do. Yeah, I think that's what it is.

Starting point is 00:22:12 Still, specifically, he went through and he rated the team's schedules, straight schedule, coming up this season. Now, I went into the article anticipating out of the 18-team Big Ten that Iowa was probably going to be 16th, 17th, maybe the easiest schedule in the Big Ten this year overall. And though it's one of the easier ones,

Starting point is 00:22:39 it's not towards the complete bottom of the list. It is 13th out of 18 teams. This is what Fernelli has to say. The Hawkeyes will play seven home games this year, and that's a good chance that they'll win all seven. Yes, the home slate features Iowa State, Washington, Wisconsin, Nebraska, but the Hawkeyes should be favored versus all of them. On the other side, while I will have to go on the road to face Ohio State, the rest of the road slate isn't terrible either. All in all, Ohio State is only one of the top four favorites to win the league based on odds the Hawkeyes have to face. The reason Iowa's schedule is ranked this

Starting point is 00:23:10 high is while there are fewer elite teams on it, there aren't any cups and cakes outside of the opener against Illinois State. And that's kind of the way that we have looked at this. Because, yes, you can point out and say, Iowa doesn't have to play Michigan, Penn State, Oregon this season, USC, what a joke of a schedule. And when you look at it only in that realm, and there's some people that only want to look at it, the top tier teams that you face, and that is your schedule, that's true. But you also don't get the drags of the conference this year. And there's no matchups against teams that are anticipated that are going to be at the absolute bottom of the Big Ten this year. And that's another reason that Iowa's schedule,

Starting point is 00:23:50 there's a lot of winnable games in there. There's also plenty of games that they could lose. And you could see those coin flip games start to go the other way. So I thought of good stuff there. Speaking of that article, the easiest schedule this year is Indiana. Very manageable schedule for the hoosiers this season at the top of the list ucla we talked about this during big time media days a week ago as we saw deshaun foster be the first up before kirk parents and his uh speak had that weird opening safe statement but that aside it was a look at their schedule and just how difficult

Starting point is 00:24:23 the peruans are going to have it including ourkeyes making their way there in November. We'll see what's left in the tank at that point in time for that UCLA squad. And then one final thing on the basketball front, as Jack McCaffrey has made his commitment and he is going to be a Butler Bulldog. I understand some people out there that are wondering, what does this say about Iowa basketball? What does this say about Fran McCaffrey in his future? And I believe that that is short-sighted. I feel real momentum in this basketball, but perhaps a sense of belonging again, a sense of normalcy for Fran McCaffrey for the first time in eight seasons, not having one of his sons being coached by him.

Starting point is 00:25:11 I think that's impactful. I look at what I would did with limited funds in comparison to much of their big 10 brethren and what they did in the transfer portal, bringing in very competent and minimum starting point guard and a guy that can run your team and has done it at a high level. Yes, at the mid-major level, Andrew Thelwell, but a guy that makes a whole lot of sense for what Iowa does. They have an incumbent in Brock Harding, a guy that anticipate he's going to be there, but for a one-year stock gap, Thelwell is almost the perfect guy.

Starting point is 00:25:39 You can, at times, maybe play them together. At others, a veteran presence and a guy that just knows how to be a point guard at the college level. That's a good thing, I think, eventually Don Juan for what we have with Brock Hardy. Then you go out and you find what many people consider a diamond in the rough as they welcome in Traor from Manhattan. This guy, we talked about the numbers. We talked about the statistical profile of him, what he was and what he was going to be, but it didn't paint the whole picture.

Starting point is 00:26:12 And as he's arrived on campus, as he'd gone through, and as he's been practicing more and more and going through more and more workouts, we continue to hear great things about him. And that, again, is one of the strengths of Fran McCaffrey is identifying talent. Yes, have we been on the doorstop with so many high-level prospects that it gets frustrating? No doubt about it.

Starting point is 00:26:31 Guess who else had the same thing? Lou Dolson, Mark Aguirre, Isaiah Thomas. There were some big-time names and some close calls going way back then. Dr. Tom, Nick Collison, Rafe LaFrance. I understand Collison. It was during the lame duck year, but the close calls, the ones that didn't go Iowa's way and how could have changed the perception. The same thing happens with Fran. We go on and on into this. Only one team can win in recruiting. This isn't where you're going to play 160 games over the course of a Saturday in college basketball. It is completely different because of that. There's only one winner in recruiting every single time. And Fran, though, he can

Starting point is 00:27:11 identify talent. He's done a really good job of it. He'll do it without Jack McCaffrey, who goes on to Butler. And good for Jack. Look, very difficult circumstances, what happened last summer. But as I stated, I think this is a good thing, not just for Jack, and to get out of Iowa City, forge your own path. Frustrating thing is I thought he was going to be one heck of a player, and I think he's going to be one heck of a player, probably a better collegiate player than either of us were. And that's frustrating from the fan aspect, but there's a whole lot more here. And he saw what it was like playing for his father. Not actual hearing from dad, but from the fan base. It was ugly at times. And there were times that I had things to say as well. I mean,

Starting point is 00:27:57 that goes with the territory and it's going to be different for Jack McCaffrey. Is this going to lead for this being Fran's last year? I don't see it. I was there maybe a few months ago. Not anymore. Maybe it could be just hope for me that this thing's going to be turned around. We're going to see a big bounce back season. They're back in the NCAA tournament.

Starting point is 00:28:17 They finally break through and get into the second weekend. It could be hope. We'll see. We'll see you tomorrow here. Locked on, Hawkeyes. As always, thanks for making Locked on Hawkeyes your first listen every day. Thanks for making Locked On Hawkeyes your first listen every day. For your second listen, don't forget to enjoy Locked On College Football

Starting point is 00:28:36 and the Locked On College Football podcast. Spencer McLaughlin gets you ready for an exciting season on the gridiron with discussion on the upcoming season and the ever-changing landscape of college athletics, including conference realignment, the transfer portal, NIL, new college football, expanded playoffs, and a whole lot more. Lockdown College Football is available on YouTube and wherever you get podcasts. All part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. We got you covered on the Hawkeye front. We'll talk to you again tomorrow as we continue our deep dive into Iowa football.

Starting point is 00:29:12 Ooh, it is getting closer as we make our way through. Again, thanks for making Lockdown Hawkeyes your first listen every day. We'll talk to you again tomorrow. Go Hawks.

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