Locked On Hawkeyes - Daily Podcast On Iowa Hawkeyes Football & Basketball - Iowa Football: How changes are made in the football program, Ty Thompson no longer visiting with Leshun Daniels
Episode Date: January 5, 2024Trent Condon and former Hawkeye running back LeShun Daniels get together for the latest edition of the Locked on Hawkeyes Podcast.The guys open with the news that former 5 star quarterback Ty Thompson... is no longer visiting Iowa City.Iowa went through changes when LeShun was on the team in 2014 after the season. Some talk about what changed in the program and changes that are needed now.Trent wraps up with some basketball talk as both the women's and men's teams play Rutgers this weekend.Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!GametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDON for $20 off your first purchase.FanDuelScore early this NFL season with FanDuel, America’s Number One Sportsbook! Right now, NEW customers get ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS in BONUS BETS with any winning FIVE DOLLAR MONEYLINE BET! That’s A HUNDRED AND FIFTY BUCKS – if your team wins! Visit FanDuel.com/LOCKEDON to get started.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Trent Condon alongside LaShawn Daniels today on the Locked On Hawkeyes podcast.
A lot of football talk.
The excitement of yesterday has dissipated.
Five-star quarterback Ty Thompson no longer visiting the Iowa Hawkeyes.
We'll talk about that and how changes happen inside the Iowa football program.
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Hey, welcome in.
I'm Trent Condon.
He's LaShawn Daniels.
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LaShawn, we talked to you here on Friday.
And we saw it on Monday.
Another pitiful performance out of the Hawkeye offense.
Not the bowl finish that we were hoping for.
Nico Amileva, he was very good, a very talented young guy.
Still has work to do as a passer.
You can see some of those things, but the running ability is definitely immense there.
But obviously the storyline coming out of that one is what we saw out of Iowa offensively
and it was not just a season-long conversation but what we've seen over the last two and a half
seasons this Iowa offense just can't figure out a way to move the football a frustrating one
certainly on Monday your takeaway from the Citrus Bowl yeah yeah just extremely frustrating performance from the offense.
When you don't have a consistent running game and all your passes are, you know, shorter than 10 yards,
I felt like there was no there was no sort of momentum or rhythm that Iowa could generate whatsoever because kind of run the football Tennessee was doing a great job on back end and coverage basically just sitting on routes because
they knew there's no threat of any intermediate or deep passes and then you get in third down
situations and basically Tennessee just allowed to tee off and and blitz and bring a ton of pressure that Iowa couldn't handle.
So extremely, extremely frustrating from the Iowa offense.
And then Tennessee, on their side of the ball, especially offensively,
freshman quarterback did a tremendous job on making plays that had to be made,
a tremendous job on, you know, making plays that had to be made, extending the play, and getting the ball to the skill guys when the opportunity presented itself.
They didn't put him in any too difficult situations.
They emphasized the use of tempo when they have opportunities to, again, help him play
fast, help prevent, you know, Iowa's defense from going ahead and making adjustments and
doing things to confuse the young quarterback.
So I was impressed with him and Tennessee's offense on being able to just move the ball
and take advantage of really Iowa's mistakes and the fact that Iowa was on their heels
the entire football game because and part of the offensive performance.
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LaShawn, with that, a frustrating element that came out.
We see Marco Lyon has come into the game,
able to move the football a little bit with his legs,
didn't look real comfortable throwing the football.
Now Tennessee was also kind of able to tee off. They knew it was a throwing situation.
I would have just loved to see something that we talked about, you know, a potential,
even a couple of packages. You put them in for a drive in the second quarter, a drive in the third
quarter, something like that. Something that A, makes Tennessee have to think a little bit more
and prepare for a different type of quarterback, but to see what he has.
And they use these three weeks, and he had this lead up, and we've talked about this
with you in the past, LaShawn, all the buildup that you have there, giving an opportunity
to a young quarterback to see what you have, see what he can be, and maybe make him a little
bit more comfortable when he gets into the football game.
I think it was a huge missed opportunity, not knowing what next year brings.
Cade McNamara is going to be coming off the ACL injury, his second major knee surgery in the past
two seasons. Who knows even when he's going to be ready to go and going to be a full go at it. I
mean, very well might not be until August camp that he's able to make a full go. So with all
that being said, I think Iowa missed an opportunity here to get Marco Linas more ready for the
football game.
And we saw he's got a long ways to go developmentally, but those legs, that was intriguing.
Yeah, I don't disagree with that at all.
I mean, we've been talking for a while now about the quarterback position and really it's shortcomings.
And where I know that I like my things that I like my quarterback to be able to do,
especially when there's really no spark in the passing game whatsoever.
And that's the ability of the quarterback to be able to use his legs.
And I thought Marco did an extremely good job on Monday in the Citrus Bowl using his legs.
Granted, Tennessee was sitting back just making sure that, you know,
didn't need cheap deep shots or anything like that.
But still, times when he got pressure in his face, he maneuvered, pulled the ball down like, hey, might as well not make a bad play worse.
Go ahead. Let me use my legs and use my athleticism to go ahead and pick up what I can get.
And we were able to see that from him, which I thought was very encouraging. And yes, he didn't look comfortable throwing the football because, again, late in the fourth
quarter, Tennessee's teeing off and it probably feels like things are moving a million miles
per hour, especially you haven't been warmed up.
Like you just get thrown in there at the end of the game.
So things probably felt, you know, moving at a million miles per hour,
but I was super impressed with the way that he was able to at least help the
offense move the football by using his legs and extending plays.
So I agree. I thought it was a missed opportunity.
It would have been great to see him, you know,
get a lot more reps in the game, just because, I mean, I don mean, I don't want to, you know,
dump on Deacon because I'm sure he's already been dumped on quite a bit at this point.
But the turnovers, the turnovers have been an absolute killer for the Iowa offense.
And you know how much we've struggled on offensively the entire year.
And when you have those turnovers, especially early in the game,
you're driving, you're in the red zone, you have three points in your pocket, no matter what.
And, you know, you turn the ball over. You know, those are just things that can't happen. And those are things that have happened time and time again throughout the entire football season. So
it would have been great to see Marco get some extra reps and see if he was able to provide a spark for the
offense. And his little reps that he got, he was at least able to do that and at the very least,
you know, move the football. So speaking of the quarterback position, it looked like Ty Thompson,
a former five-star. I was recruiting him out of high school out of Arizona. We talked about it
on yesterday's podcast. He's coming in for a visit what does this say how exciting it is a guy that can move
guy that had great accolades coming out of high school I'm no longer going to be visiting Iowa
coming up this weekend sounds like the reasoning from reporting from Tom Caker of Hawkeye Report
that he is currently not sure about the offensive coordinator position without a sitting OC
that makes it difficult.
And, you know, initially it was kind of surprising that Ty Thompson would take a visit here,
not knowing who the offensive coordinator was going to be.
And now that's not going to happen. So kind of comes full circle here, but just a little bit frustrating knowing that a guy
like that at least was interested in coming to Iowa City, but without an offensive coordinator,
they're not coming.
Now, my question would be, they're eventually going to hire an OC.
Classes don't start until what the 16th, what would her take in the visit this weekend?
Unless there's something up and he's already got his opportunity and knows where he's going,
but why not take the visit and kind of see how that OC plays out?
Yeah, I agree.
I definitely think that the visit doesn't hurt you at all. I mean, unless, right, there's a school that another school you're thinking of that is getting ready to start classes and whatnot.
And you want to maybe use that visit to sit there, maybe because they might have, you know, maybe a more stable position, right? They may know what their offense is going to look like.
have, you know, maybe a more stable position, right?
They know what their offense is going to look like,
they know what their offense is going to be, so on and so forth.
But, yeah, I mean, if you're not in that situation, right,
like the visit doesn't hurt you.
And then, obviously, like as you get there,
I'm sure that they're probably telling, you know,
like the kids that they're recruiting out of the portal and kids that they're recruiting from high school in general that, like, hey,
we have a plan in place for an offensive coordinator,
and you probably get more information there,
probably just from taking the visit and at the very least,
you're going to interact with some of the other, you know,
offensive coaches, the strength staff, and the city itself
to see if this would be a place you would, you know,
be willing to continue your college career.
And in my opinion, yeah, it doesn't hurt.
But of course, I'm going to say that because, you know, I'm an Iowa guy.
Like, of course, I want you to of course, I want you to take that take that visit and, you know, come check out Iowa City. But I thought it was I did think that it was interesting that he was deciding that he was going to come to take take that visit because hey that's a player that you
you would love to have in your time in your program right the more talent you can get in
your program especially especially especially at the quarterback position it's going to help your
your team immensely um so yeah it's probably just end up being because hey you have no idea what
offensive coordinator is and personally i don't blame them um it would be nice to have that kind
of in place and we talked about this i think in a couple pods that now up to this point where
hey having the offensive coordinator in place or at least the very least having a short list of
candidates that you know that you're going to go ahead and move forward with is something that
could help you in in the portal in the recruiting process in general.
So it is, it's unfortunate, but you know, who knows?
You could end up still committing even without a visit, but you never know.
Change is coming to the Iowa football program with that new offensive coordinator, LaShawn.
When you were with the University of Iowa football program,
you went through some big changes as well after the 2014 loss also to Tennessee in the bowl game.
We saw some big changes.
We'll talk about that.
What change looks like inside the Iowa football program.
We'll do that as we continue.
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Trent Conant alongside LaShawn Daniels back with you again
on the Lockdown Hawkeyes podcast.
Thanks for making Lockdown Hawkeyes your first listen every day.
So mention 2014.
You guys go down to Jacksonville, get clubbed.
It was ugly.
Your boy, Jonathan Parker, the kick return that will be remembered for a long time.
What was JP doing on that play?
I don't know.
I still don't know to this day.
And I don't think anybody knows about him.
I don't think anybody knows about him.
That was just a crazy play.
I couldn't believe my eyes.
I couldn't believe what I was watching.
I thought, this is insane.
I've never seen something like this happen on the football field before.
And, yeah, no one knows he's the only person that I would I would know what's going on there
so uh that game was bad and you had Beathard and Rudak the decision then he had the press
conference something that Kirk hadn't done a couple weeks after the season came to a close
in that game basically announcing that CJ was going to be the starter. Jake Ruddock eventually transfers to Michigan and finishes his career with Harbaugh
early in his career with the Wolverines. But it was a lot more. Now, the main thing that was
talked about was that you guys changed practice times. You went and changed practice times up,
started early morning. I think there was a lot of ink that was talked about on that one.
What else was happening inside the program? What are a few things also that was happening as you you saw change saw a different way that you guys were going about things after that disappointing
end in 14? Yeah, yeah, it was. It was definitely more than just moving to morning practices.
That's for sure. If I got wish of moving to morning practices, that's for sure. I wish that moving to morning practices was the magical solution,
but that wasn't it.
I feel like it definitely helped in our preparation when it came to game weeks
and things of that nature.
But overall, that wasn't the reason that I felt like we turned it around.
For starters, it helped.
Like we turned it around.
For starters, it helped.
I think we had a lot of young guys the year prior in that 2014 season that were kind of just waiting for their opportunities to play.
And we had some really good players from that team,
a bunch of players from that team that you're still playing in the NFL now.
And, you know, even some from that team that just stopped playing in the NFL now. And, you know, even some from that team that just stopped
playing in the NFL. So like guys that have played a lot of that were talented football players that
came from that team. And then another thing about it is I just felt like our culture wasn't as strong
as it had been. And the couple of years years after I just felt like there was just things
there from a culture perspective that were just missing whether it was um you know guys from like
young guys that weren't really buying into the program or maybe even older guys and you know
that were part of the program that you know really just didn't fit uh you know the things that we
were trying to do from a culture perspective where, you know,
guys felt like they knew better or, you know, you know, there's just things like that.
Right. And it felt like when we went into that 2015 season,
those were things that Coach Ferentz and the strength staff and the rest of the coaches were really kind of harping on us to
to change because that's where they felt like that's where we were that's where the gaps were
as part of the team and it was it was our job to fix that and so it started in the winter time
started with the leadership group and that that carried over uh throughout the season so it was
definitely something that was related to to the culture that we had in that 2014 season.
It just wasn't what it's been in the past, and it was something that needed to be corrected.
And I thought that we did an excellent job of correcting that.
And because of that, it made everybody on the team better.
It made everyone working together better for both offensively, defensively, special teams wise, because our culture was stronger.
People felt like you could rely on each other.
There wasn't guys that were, you know, in each other's ear and, you know, basically being energy vampires on the team.
So I felt like those were things that helped change and helped us turn that
that new page and it it really even it continued even into that 2016 season as well even though
hey we didn't have as great as years that we did in 2015 but overall like our culture felt it felt
strong like we felt like a team because as we got later into the year like if our culture was the
way that it was in 2014
after that Penn State game probably would have just you know ended up packing it in and you know
that would have been that would have been it for the season for for us um so yeah I thought it was
the culture shift and getting rid of people not necessarily getting rid of them it was either they
they you know decided to change their ways or know, they moved on to other endeavors because it was a major culture shift from that 2014 to 2015 season.
And right now, it doesn't feel like there needs to be any kind of culture fit. I mean,
you look at the guys coming back from Jay Higgins. We saw Cooper DeGene is off, but real chance that
Sebastian Castro is going to be back. Obviously, Luke Lachey.
Culture doesn't appear to be the problem inside the program.
It's just strictly offensively.
So that being said, whatever the new offensive hire comes in,
be it Paul Chris, Joe Philbin, some crazy name, my hope, of course, Ryan Grubb, Andy Ludwig,
you know, a guy like that, whoever it is, the importance of really making real change, real change inside that offensive system, what they're doing in the passing scheme, even an evolution in the run game.
Those kind of things is do you look at it as Kirk needs to be a little bit more hands off now, you know, kind of step back and be that CEO?
Because as you get older, I think this goes for everybody.
You get a little bit more conservative the older that you get if this is going to happen and if I was going to have the
the big change offensively and just become at minimum competent on the offensive side of the
football Kirk needs to be a little bit more hands-off now with the offense would that be a
fair way to look at it yeah I'd say that's fair I'd say that's fair um you know because the way that football in general is moving
moving so fast and i think coach ference has done um an excellent job with the special teams and
defense overall as a whole when you look at you know that those both sides of football how they
adjust and how they've been adjusting the way cultural ball has been moving right because
obviously teams aren't just running you know eye formation uh you know a couple drop backs out of
the gun the game right like it's you got teams that are throwing it all over there's new special
teams formations when it comes to punt return and things of that nature and i've done a great job
there whereas the offense it's been it's been slow to adapt and i feel like he's done a great job there. Whereas the offense, it's been slow to adapt.
And I feel like the way that cultural football is moving,
the offense is the thing that's going to have to really time travel into the
2024 year and beyond.
And being a little bit more hands-off and letting someone come into the
building and kind of take over the offense.
Not necessarily, you know, change it and go completely air raid, right?
That's not necessarily what we're going to be looking for from an offensive perspective.
But, you know, be a little bit more hands-off.
Allow the new OC to completely revamp the passing game, right?
And allow that passing game to help dictate the type of running game
that you want to do.
And I know that Coach Ferentz isn't going to want to go away
from the zone running scheme and power plays, right,
to venture off too far from that.
But definitely be a little bit more hands-off and allow the OC
to help, you know, marry those two areas of the football together.
So when you get out there on offense you're able to sustain drives you're able to have some type of rhythm and it feels like
you're able to uh when the offense gets out on the field they can put up points they can move the
football and it doesn't feel like they're just kind of throwing plays at the board and making
things that stick trying to find stuff that sticks it it's going to be an offense that is cohesive and has some type of rhythm to it.
And I think the best way you're going to be able to do that is to let the OC really take
over and own that side of the football.
So, yeah, I would definitely say that's a fair assessment for as Coach Ference does
get older, definitely be a little bit more hands off on the offense.
Coach Ference does get older, definitely be a little bit more hands off on the offense.
But obviously, yeah, you're still going to he's still going to want to have his overarching way he wants the team plays. But as far as the way the offense moves and the way that offense goes about it on a game plan basis and the way that you implement the playbook,
I feel like he definitely has to be a little bit more hands off.
All right, LaShawn, I know you've got to run here.
Last 30 seconds, though.
Your pick in the national championship game,
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Who do you got in Michigan?
A four-and-a-half-point favorite against future Big Ten team,
the Washington Huskies.
You know, I have been big on Bama, you know, going into the Rose Bowl last week.
But, you know, Michigan impressed me, especially with the defense.
I mean, the defense made stop after stop late in that game when Alabama was up,
you know, 17 to 13 and was able to prevent Bama from, you know,
getting another score, another touchdown to make it a two score game
and essentially put that game out of reach late.
And I was really impressed with their defense.
And I've been leaning Michigan very hard, but there's something about,
you know, Michael Penix, those Washington receivers,
which I think are just absolute superstars.
Washington receivers, which I think are just absolute superstars.
And Washington does an extremely good job up front offensively.
So I feel like if Washington got in a position where Alabama was last week,
I feel like that because of how good the quarterback is,
that they would be able to take advantage of that and be able to push the ball down the field a lot more than what Alabama was
doing.
And because of that and because of how good I think Pennix and those receivers are, I'm
going to go with the Huskies on this one.
But I think it's going to be a great game and I'm super excited for it.
Looking forward to that.
Looking forward to our continued conversations.
LaShawn Daniels joining us here,
former Hawkeye running back on the Lockdown Hawkeyes podcast.
LaShawn, we'll talk to you again next week.
Yep, for sure.
Go Hawks.
That's LaShawn Daniels joining us here.
We continue on the Lockdown Hawkeyes podcast.
Time to talk a little hoops.
Iowa with the big weekend, both women's and men's,
as they will get ready to face off against Rutgers
starts on Friday night tonight against
Rutgers for the women they will
take on them on the road some cool
storylines coming out there and of course
then the men on Saturday in Carver
we'll talk a little basketball to wrap things up
as we continue here on the
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Trent Conner back with you
one final time on the Lockdown Hawkeyes
podcast. As always, thanks for making
Lockdown Hawkeyes your first listen
every day. Alright, basketball
coming up this weekend. Starting with
the women. And not sure
if you saw the pictures that were posted last night on social media.
Very cool.
They're playing Rutgers, hanging out in New York City, Times Square.
And Brian Ray, the fine photographer for the University of Iowa Athletic Department,
formerly with the Cedar Rapids Gazette,
now has taken over as the director of photography for the university and the athletics.
Does a great job.
That iconic shot that you saw with the ball out of the hands of Caitlin Clark
on the game winner earlier this week on Tuesday night against Michigan State.
He was the one that had that.
And he does a really good job, him and Stephen Malley,
with all those still shots that we get over the course.
But that aside, being a Times Square, Rutgers is not very good on the women's
side. This is not the Rutgers team to see Vivian Stringer head for a number of years. They're down.
They're 6-10 on the season. This appears to be a game that Iowa absolutely should be able to go
into and really roll. I mean, this should be a game where it was tough. It was tough earlier this week
on Tuesday night against Michigan State. You know you're going to get most everybody's best shot. I mean, that's just what is going to happen. In fact,
right now at FanDuel, Iowa is favored by 27 and a half on the road against Rutgers. That's a big
number. This should be an easy one. This should be one where you get Kaitlyn Clark off her feet
because after this, it's going to start to ramp up a little bit more.
And Witt is awaiting them next week.
They go on the road to Purdue and improve Purdue team.
And then after that, a monster matchup against Indiana next Saturday night.
That'll be a national Fox game.
Prime time in Carver Hawkeye sold out with McKenzie Holmes and company making their way into Carver.
Should be really good.
So you hate to say that any game is a layup. This one feels like a layup. On the men's side, we talked about it
earlier this week. You everydayers know this. The importance now for the Iowa men to get on a run.
And I don't believe that this team is going to be able to get back into realistic conversation
for the NCAA tournament. We've seen warts with this team,
and though Ray McCaffrey's teams have pulled themselves out of the hole the last couple of
years. Last year, they were 0-3 in the Big Ten and also had that ugly, just hideous loss to
Eastern Illinois. The year before that, they were 1-3 in the Big Ten before pulling themselves out,
but this is still a really young team. Peyton Sanford seems like he's pressing at times.
You know, got off to the good start against Wisconsin,
but then that started to come back the other way.
The reason, though, that it's so important for Iowa to start to pile up wins.
Rutgers on Saturday.
Then Nebraska at home.
A good Nebraska team, but still, it's a game at home, game at Carver you should win.
You get Minnesota after that on the road.
Again, you're going to have to win that basketball game.
The reason, though, is because of what they have waiting at the end of the season.
They play Illinois two of the last four games of the season.
They go to Northwestern, a Northwestern team that in their own gym, they beat Purdue.
Pretty good there.
You play Michigan State on the road late in the season.
You still get Wisconsin one more time.
You got to go to Maryland.
So the schedule at the end of the season is important.
This middle portion now, if you will, of the Big Ten.
You got to pile up wins.
You got Purdue looming still once again here coming up in a couple of weeks.
It's incredibly difficult.
I get that.
But the reality is Iowa needs to play better.
I continue to maintain Iowa needs a true point guard out there.
It's time to give the keys to DeSante Bowen, to Brock Harding.
One of the two, let them cook.
Let them go out there, get them 25 minutes.
Let them be basically the full-time point guard
and see what they can do and see if that can get this offense going.
They're still good offensively.
They're not elite.
And if Iowa's going to win basketball games,
they have to be elite offensively.
They're just not good enough on the defensive end of the floor. And this defense actually
statistically in efficiency ratings
is better than the defense a year ago.
But it's still bad. And we see that show
up time in and time out. That's what
we got to see. We will see if we see it
in Carver and we'll see what
the crowd is. You know, no excuses.
11 o'clock game
Saturday. Well, there's been a lot of
angst about that versus the Sunday
game. No NFL you're going up against. I mean, the excuses are out the window now. If Carver
is not close to full tomorrow, that's going to be a scary look, obviously, for the Iowa basketball
team. Thanks for making Lockdown Hawkeyes your first listen every day. Always appreciate everybody
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