Locked On Hawkeyes - Daily Podcast On Iowa Hawkeyes Football & Basketball - Iowa Football: Is the Hawkeye Offense for Real? Scott Dochterman joins

Starting point is 00:00:00 is what we saw Saturday, the real Iowa offense, at least in the second half, a rewatch of the Iowa win. 40-0 over Illinois State. Plus, Scott Dockerman joins us from the Athletic Hall today. Locked on, Hawkeyes. You are locked on, Hawkeyes. Your daily podcast on the Iowa Hawkeyes. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day.

Starting point is 00:00:30 Hey, welcome in. I'm Trent Condon, and this is the Locked On Hawkeyes podcast. Thanks for making Locked On Hawkeyes your first listen every day. We're available wherever you find podcasts. You can also find us on YouTube. While you're there, hit the subscribe button. Helps us get in front of more Hawkeye fans. Today's episode is brought to you by Ultimate College Football HC.

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Starting point is 00:01:37 State. A couple of takeaways from that, watching the game now for a second time. Of course, they're live in person at Kinnick Stadium on Saturday, As every dayers know, talked about that a little bit last week. Going from that, watching some highlights on Saturday, and then going through the full game and watching all the plays for a second or third time in this one. A couple things jumped off to me. First, we talked about this in the Instant Reaction podcast, that yes, it was frustrating at times

Starting point is 00:02:05 that first half of the football game, and it felt like there were some things left on the field. There certainly were. In fact, Iowa was even closer, I think, to blowing this thing out early as opposed to what happened in the second half of the football game. The game plan for Illinois State was really good, and they were crashing hard. We heard Tim Lester talk throughout the spring and the summertime that his offense is still predicated on establishing the run and the traditional Shanahan offense with his own blocking scheme. Kirk Ferentz loves his own blocking scheme.

Starting point is 00:02:36 You saw many of the same issues, I think, that we saw throughout the last four or five, six years now since the rule change in college football. What Illinois State did is when they saw those zone plays, the either defensive end or the outside linebacker came crashing down and were able to get plays. You know, Kamari Moulton, I don't think we saw his best on Saturday. Doesn't have maybe the same kind of wiggle, the juice that we saw a year ago. Remember, he's playing at a bigger weight and I think there's something to do with that. But it was also what Illinois State was caleb johnson took over at the running back spot in the second half that is something that the motion the jet screen motion the jet sweep motion excuse me that i will use is that's how they're going to be able to keep teams more at bay and i think it's

Starting point is 00:03:21 going to help out this running game at times it was dead upon arrival um the former play caller didn't have a great knack of dolling those plays up at the right time but that's something that is needed because with the blocking rules in college football you're just not able to cut that guy on the outside on the weak side of the formation when you're running it and because of that you have so many guys that just come free. And it can be well executed, well blocked out in front of that outside zone blocking. But if it's taking long to develop, if you're waiting, the running back's waiting for those blocks to develop a little bit and looking for the cutback lane before you can find that

Starting point is 00:03:59 cutback lane, boom, you're hit from behind for a two-yard loss or a two-yard gain. It's a short gain if you're even getting behind for a two-yard loss or a two-yard gain or it's a short game if you're even getting a game out of it and saw a lot of that during the first half of that one mention kate mcnamara his struggles and the way that he really turned it on in the second half and you know watching it a second time there are misses no doubt the the throw in the end zone if he just would have led luke lachey i mean that was an easy six threw it off his back foot left that one short there was a couple of drops in there too that certainly didn't help him out you know watching If he just would have led Luke Lachey, I mean, that was an easy six. Threw it off his back foot, left that one short. There was a couple of drops in there, too, that certainly didn't help him out.

Starting point is 00:04:30 Watching it the second time, though, that first half, and I know there were the crazies out there that were asking for Brennan Sullivan to come into the game and make a change at halftime and throw everything out. This thing is falling apart. Luckily, other coaches were not reading Twitter at halftime and didn't go that direction. But seeing it again that second time, it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it was. And I thought it was awful, just absolutely dreadful. Now, I think a part of that too, and probably for all of us, it's a little PTSD, right? Watching this Iowa offense of what it's been the last two and a half

Starting point is 00:05:03 years. And you got six points on the board, you get a couple of turnovers, you got short fields, all you can get is three points out of those two short fields. The frustrations were building, but it was penalties, it was a drop, it was these little things that started to add up, and it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought. Remember, they had 150 yards of offense in the first half. We would have killed for 150 yards of offense in a whole game at times a season ago. So with all that being said, that was a whole lot better. Now, got away with some things in the second half. We talked about the second

Starting point is 00:05:36 touchdown, Therese Van Der Zee. Boy, I walked away from this game optimistic about this football team. I had them pegged as a 9-3 football team coming into the season. Nothing certainly that I saw Saturday changed my opinion on that. And I think there's more. I think there's more juice that is in this football team that they can squeeze out of it. This has the potential to be a really special season because what I saw from the offensive line, it's real. They're healthy. They're blocking. Yes, I think it's more schematic things with the zone blocking that runs into some of the issues in the run game that we see,

Starting point is 00:06:12 but they were decisive. When Ellsbury came in at the center position after Logan Jones exited, he was still very good. Jones comes back in and maybe played his best football of the day after he came back into the football game, which was great to see. You're developing depth on that line. You have a ton of experience. This has a chance to be really, really good. Obviously, if we see the Cade McNamara that we saw in the second half, look out. But even if it's something in between, he's not 13 to 14, as he was in the second half of the game. The only incompletion came on a drop pass.

Starting point is 00:06:41 as he was in the second half of the game. The only incompletion came on a drop pass. He's not going to be that guy every time, but he's going to be certainly better than the guy that we saw in the first half. Look, we've talked about the benchmarks. Realistic goals for Cade McNamara this year. 15 touchdowns, five or less interceptions, complete over 60% of your passes,

Starting point is 00:07:01 go north at 2,500 yards. He's already well on pace to do all of those things this season and I think it can continue now it's Iowa State this week it's going to be a step up in competition we'll talk more about Iowa State as the week goes on and get ready for the matchup at Kinnick Stadium coming up on Thursday we continue here locked on Hawkeye Scott Dockerman from the athletic little Hawkeye Taco Doc, who was there in attendance as well. Also earlier last week, he was up in Minnesota watching the Gophers and the only Big Ten team that couldn't find a way to get it done

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Starting point is 00:09:42 Well, the Iowa Hawkeyes go out there. A very pedestrian first half Cade McNamara throwing off his back foot and then maybe what it was what Seth Wallace said in the locker room I'm not sure but whatever it was it worked in the second half he looked crisp he looked sharp he was making plays all over the field Caleb Johnson goes out of there so what's closer to reality the Iowa we saw in the first half or the Iowa we saw in the second half? Probably the Iowa we saw at halftime, which means we're still up in the air on this. I would say that what we saw from the second and third quarters is probably what you can see.

Starting point is 00:10:18 And that's in the second quarter, you did start to see some rhythm and routine. And unfortunately, i counted three drops and all three of them were pretty significant one was a touchdown one was in the second half it was the only pass that wasn't complete in the second half and and uh you know there was another one there too and and i think overall that the team showed like it was improving um over the course of the game certainly was in the second half on offense. But there are still some concerns. I mean, let's face it, they're playing an FCS team and that's clearly not to Iowa's level up front. And obviously, its offense wasn't anywhere near

Starting point is 00:10:57 what Iowa's defense could do. So I think you should be optimistic. It felt like, okay, they're starting to turn it on they played better but i also think that uh that just means that they're capable of showing a flash and more than they did last year uh defensive line was a concern for a lot of people uh coming into to the season doc we we starters aside we saw pitman making plays. Obviously, Brian Allen was terrific in the football game. Maybe did that concerns maybe put a little bit on the back burner a little bit or still some concerns? Overall depth defensive line, because Aaron Graves was great.

Starting point is 00:11:36 Wyatt Black was double teamed. Deontay Craig made plays. But I saw some guys that made me open up the roster and try to figure out who these dudes were, which is a good sign. Overall, I think you've got to be pleased. And I think that they were able to go deep the other day and go to nine deep, I think it was, up front, maybe 10 deep, actually. And that's a good thing. That's what you want in a game like this, where you're facing an opponent that, you know, you've got to feel like your second team is better than their first team and i think they were able to show that a lot

Starting point is 00:12:09 um the other day and um you know but i don't really know where that's going to go once we uh you know get play see an iowa versus iowa state iowa versus minnesota iowa versus ohio state that's where that really is going to show up and and I do think that Iowa's interior tandem of Y.A. Black and Aaron Graves are right there with Ohio State and Michigan as far as having the best tandem in the country. But that said, we want to see what 7 and 8 can do when they're in the lineup late in the second quarter or somebody's gassed or or it's a long drive and and that's that remains to be seen there's still a lot of questions there mentioned caleb johnson what he was able to do in the run game he is a home run hitter and he's shown that throughout his career

Starting point is 00:12:55 when he's been out there healthy walton got the start johnson was suspended for the first half does that flip-flop it looks like leshawn williams still working his way back from the injury he's not getting close to 100% quite yet. How do the carries shake out here at the running back position this week? Well, on the depth chart, it's considered now an or between Moulton and Johnson. So we'll see. I imagine that's probably the case there. And Caleb Brown is now back in the lineup as second team.

Starting point is 00:13:23 But we'll see where that ends up and Reese Vandersee's first team. So I think in the backfield, you know, Caleb Johnson's your guy, but he's had some – last year he had some really good games, and then he had games where it just didn't work for him. And I think some of it's style of play. We know LaShawn Williams, what you're going to get, which is if you need kind of inside zone, he's perfect for that. You know, Kamari Moulton showed a lot.

Starting point is 00:13:50 I just don't think that there was a lot of consistency in any area when he was running the ball in the first half. But Caleb Johnson's the guy that's got the potential for the upper level. And I think you want to ride that as long as you can, because I do think that when he's playing at a high level, he's the best running back on the roster. I agree with you. All right, so let's go to the receivers. Two-parter, how serious is Seth Anderson's injury? And once he comes back, I mean, it's hard-pressed to think that Van Der Zee is going to lose any opportunities,

Starting point is 00:14:20 as good as he looked. How does the receiver position shake out when Anderson comes back? I think he's just going to be part of a rotational unit. And right now, Van Der Zee showed his debut. He was the first true freshman ever to start at Iowa in an opener, season opener. And he had a great game, two touchdown receptions. And I think he's obviously, he's in the Army. He's going to play and

Starting point is 00:14:45 he's going to start from now on um you know Jacob Gill has done nothing but really improve not only improve but prove himself to this team and he's one of the more beloved players on the team because he is willing to to do what it takes he took a couple of hard hits and and so to Vanders he got a couple of slants across the middle. So I think both of those guys are there for sure. And then Caleb Brown to me is, you know, once he works himself out of this suspension, which now he's back, he's listed behind Caden Weegean, but I would expect him to play a lot. Those to me are your first three, the way it's based right now with Weegean, get some action with Bowie, Terrell Washington. and then I think Anderson when he's healthy.

Starting point is 00:15:25 I'm not so sure when he's going to be back. He hasn't really played a whole lot at all this August, and he hasn't really played a lot in his career. I don't know where he fits right now, but my guess is if he's healthy, he's probably around number five. Doc, it felt like for the last half decade at times you were just uh kind of screaming into the ether about using motion how much better iowa was when they use motion and then they go away from it a lot more motion obviously on saturday

Starting point is 00:15:55 that we saw it's one game against an overmatched fcs team that wore down in the second half but what they're trying to do stylistically what was your takeaway with the Tim Lester offense and what they're doing and what that motion can be when they're taking on the good teams going forward? I thought it was very vanilla. I thought they did a lot of motion. They motioned or traded, which is kind of like when they're tight end, gets set and then kind of moves up and trades over to the other side on, you know, two out of every three plays, but it was limited and when they did it and they didn't use any kind of

Starting point is 00:16:29 double motion, they didn't use any kind of trade over then motion. So it was, it was incredibly vanilla and how they used it. And I think that was strategic because they wanted to get it kind of going. They wanted people to get used to it, but they also know that uh they've got a couple of bigger opponents mainly this week on their agenda that they really don't want to show too much and they have a lot more to give even jay higgins said that afterwards he's like you know they didn't do any of the stuff that they were doing against us so my my guess is i i thought

Starting point is 00:17:00 overall it went well obviously the statistics bear that out. I thought in the second half it was really effective, but I think it's going to be more in line this week with what we see the rest of the season. Obviously, Torrey Taylor's left some huge shoes behind to fill. Your thoughts on Reese Dakin's debut at Kinnick Stadium? It was nice, let's just say that. I mean, you know, he averaged, you averaged 39 yards per punt. That was pretty good. He had three inside the 20. Overall, it was a decent day statistically for him. I wasn't necessarily overwhelmed, but I also thought that he did the job. And when you're in your debut and you're playing against Illinois State at home, you're not necessarily needing them to park them inside the five or anything. I thought for a true freshman and playing in his first game, it was everything you could ask him for.

Starting point is 00:17:56 Now, every now and then you're going to want him to do something a little bit more and show off the leg a little bit better. And I think he's more than capable of that. But for a debut coming halfway across the world with fans of the stands, I think I was pretty pleased with how he performed. Scott Dockerman from The Athletic joining us here and appreciate the time of Scott Dockerman. Always great insight from him. Mentioned Reese Dakin there and obviously the punting that we saw from him. I wanted a little bit

Starting point is 00:18:25 more I was expecting a tick more but I think Doc put it very well he was completely fine and I think there's going to be a lot more upside we're going to see going forward and we certainly hope for that special teams it's one of those difference makers and what we saw from Caleb Weachin and what he's going to likely be as a punt returner the juice that he's going to be able provide. We'll see what they're going to do in the kick return game now. Caleb Johnson, kick returner at times throughout his career. But if he becomes RB1, if you want to go that direction with him, still special teams, LeVar Woods, every single year has done such a great job. Drew Stevens coming back out there and knocking both of those field goals.

Starting point is 00:19:02 And I'll be honest, sitting there and was on the opposite end of the field over in the north end zone. That's where our seats were on Saturday. And watching him just line up for that first kick, I had a couple of butterflies just because A, he's so important. B, he's really talented. And C, just how much it fell apart at the end of last season. But he was calm, cool, collected, did exactly what you want.

Starting point is 00:19:24 Knocking those field goals through and getting, I'm sure, a bunch of big ones throughout the course of this year from number 18 and the Iowa special teams. We continue here at Lockdown Hawkeyes. It is CyHawk week, and we talk a little bit about the game, about the future of the game, about what it's like here in Central Iowa. For many of you outside of Central Iowa, it's different. I'll tell you that.

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Starting point is 00:21:24 Ultimate College Football HC. Begin your coaching legacy today. Trent Conant back with you one final time on the Lockdown Hawkeyes podcast. Thanks for making Lockdown Hawkeyes your first listen every day. I also want to let you know what we have going on here across the Lockdown Network. We got you covered all the angles. Greg doing a great job with the Big Ten channel and college football being back in a big time way. The Lockdown College Football Podcast kicks off with a live preview, 6 o'clock on Tuesdays throughout the course of the season.

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Starting point is 00:22:32 along with doing, of course, Lockdown Hawkeyes. And with that, being in Central Iowa. So I grew up in North Iowa. Grew up in Osage. Well, actually grew up in New Haven, the great suburb. It's not a suburb. It's a little town eight miles away from Osage. Osage doesn't have suburbs. And grew up in New Haven, the great suburb. It's not a suburb. It's a little town eight miles away from Osage. Osage doesn't have suburbs.

Starting point is 00:22:47 And grew up in this little town. And growing up in the 80s, again, guy in my mid-40s, that's where I am. In the 80s, Iowa State wasn't a thing. And certainly Iowa State football wasn't. And yes, I know they played on a yearly basis. But in my mind as a young kid, there was nobody that was Cyclone fans. In my mind as a young kid, there was nobody that was Cyclone fans. We had a couple of farm kids, had one of the families that ran a plant in town.

Starting point is 00:23:11 That was it. And though Ames was actually closer, and being a farming community, you'd think there'd be a lot more Iowa State people. It wasn't the case. Because everybody during that time, for the most part, was a Hawkeye fan. And that's how my 5, 7, 10-year-old mind worked, is you're just always a Hawkeye, right? And because Iowa State football was so bad during the 80s, and there were so many blowouts, it just was so rarely a game that it wasn't really a rivalry. Then I go off to college.

Starting point is 00:23:39 My freshman year, Hayden's final season, is when the winning streak comes to an end, 27-9. And the losses continued as they stacked up six wins in a row. But I still lived in eastern Iowa. Didn't cross paths a ton with Iowa State fans. Yes, the message board communities back then, that was annoying. It was bothersome. But for the most part, yeah, a couple of lippy friends that went to Iowa State, but it just wasn't a thing. And then I moved here to Des Moines

Starting point is 00:24:10 and started my career and also did some part-time radio work before jumping back into the radio world full-time about a decade back. And with that, this market is so different. With that, this market is so different. And I try to tell other people here in Central Iowa, this rivalry is not the same as it is in Des Moines. The Seahawks rivalry is as big as it gets. But that's not the case in Cedar Rapids. Yeah, you might work with somebody that's in Iowa State. You might have family members.

Starting point is 00:24:41 And it's for our state. Still a huge game. But it's just a completely different stranglehold the way that it really encompasses our daily lives in Central Iowa compared to other places in the state. Wife's from Sioux City. It's Nebraska over there. Where I grew up, it was Minnesota, at least back in the day. Now, also the change in the rivalry from when I was growing up in the 80s and 90s compared to what it is today. I know Now, also, the change in the rivalry from when I was growing up in the 80s and 90s compared to what it is today, I know that's also changed the complexion in a lot of

Starting point is 00:25:09 areas. If we go to Dubuque, Quad Cities, it's different. And it's just something that I always find interesting being back here in Central Iowa in comparison to a lot of you guys that are out there in different parts of the state. And then if you're talking about, I know we got a lot of you guys that are out there in different parts of the state. And then if you're talking about, I know we got a lot of listeners in Omaha, tons in Minneapolis and Chicago, and thank you to all you guys for jumping aboard. All those people, that rivalry then dissipates, I think, even more for a lot of them, and especially for the people that went to Iowa, they were out-of-staters, they moved back maybe to Illinois, Minneapolis,

Starting point is 00:25:42 whatever it is, and you have those circumstances too. Still, regardless of all that, this is a huge game this week. Iowa cannot afford to take the goodwill from last week, what they were created, and a little bit of momentum on a national scale. Listening to the national podcast, listening to national talking heads on ESPN and the other places throughout the weekend, it started as a little bit of a ribbing. We got to be able to take that, though.

Starting point is 00:26:08 But if this offense continues to show competency, we're really talking about something maybe, excuse me, special for this season. You can't give it back. Iowa State, I thought, looked dreadful for long stretches of their game against North Dakota. The opening play of the game. So I'm listening to the game on the way back. They throw this big play up the field. John Walters, their radio voice is going crazy.

Starting point is 00:26:32 Him and Eric Heft. And then I see the replay. It was the first play of the game, and he just, Rocco Beck just chucked it up. Didn't read the defense, just chucked it. And Jalen Null, their wide receiver, made a tremendous play. Iowa State's

Starting point is 00:26:45 got great receivers. Their defensive line for the first time in a long time actually is not only good and talented, but it has some depth to go along with it. Those are the strengths of the team. And Rocco Beck is a good quarterback. Those are the strengths of the team though. Wide receiver, defensive line, and quarterback. Short of that, Iowa has, I think, a major, major advantage at every other position. The offensive line for Iowa State was not good again. Tight ends, Ben Brommer, who had a nice season last year as a retro freshman, was MIA.

Starting point is 00:27:18 Tried to get him to him a couple times. Their offensive line's a mess. The running backs, Abu Samu's banged up. Carson Hanson is, eh. They brought in a kid from Eastern Michigan. He's their number three, kind of their third down specialist and returner. It's like 5-5. Linebackers, Caleb Bacon gets hurt. They don't have much depth at that spot. I think that's why you're seeing more four-man fronts out of Iowa State this year than compared to what they've done over the last five, six years. Their safeties are good. Their cornerbacks are pretty good. But overall, not just this is a winnable game. We need to see Iowa open this thing up a little bit and really run away and hide.

Starting point is 00:27:58 We've seen this a few times. We've seen Iowa be able to do that. But the opportunity is there. We've seen Iowa be able to do that, but the opportunity is there. Just strangle them out. Control it. Dominate it. Frustrate them. Take them out of what they want to do. Get that Kinnick Stadium charged up in a big-time way.

Starting point is 00:28:17 I think it has a chance to happen. We'll talk about it here throughout the course of the week. We can break things down on all the angles. That's what we do here for you on Locked On Hawkeyes with you each and every day. And thanks for making Locked On Hawkeyes your first listen today. Now go check out Locked On College Football Podcast. From NIL deals to the never-ending conference realignment rumors, Spencer McLaughlin gets you ready for the season

Starting point is 00:28:39 and what's ahead on the gridiron. You can find the link to Locked On College Football in the description so you don't need to search. Part of Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. We got more coming up this week. One final look back, got the numbers from Pro Football Focus, what we can take out of those numbers and take a look forward. We'll continue to break down the matchup against Iowa State

Starting point is 00:29:00 and what this very well could be for Iowa football in 2024. I think it has a chance to be special. Thanks for being with us as always. We'll talk to you again tomorrow. Go Hawks!

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