Locked On Hawkeyes - Daily Podcast On Iowa Hawkeyes Football & Basketball - Iowa Football: Rewatch of the guy wrenching loss to Minnesota, Kirks Legacy & PFF Grades
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you're supposed to spend 24 hours thinking about a loss.
Move on.
We're not doing that here.
I'll look back at what we saw and the frustrations continue.
Plus, usually it's a bye week.
We hear from the coordinators.
Brian Ferentz not going to be offered up this week.
Oh, boy.
Here we go.
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Well, I did it again.
I'll look back at what we saw from Saturday afternoon into the evening and the Hawkeyes
devastating 12-10 loss to Minnesota. Do it each
and every week, win, lose, or draw. And that's where we are right now. I'll look back at what
we saw in the football game. Also have numbers coming up from you today from Pro Football Focus
and the coordinators not being made available this week. What a bad precedent is being set here by
Kirk Ferentz as things get uglier and uglier. It feels like he
becomes more and more insular and that legacy that he has built up of a quarter century of some
pretty good football starting to dissipate very quickly. And we will get into that here today,
but let's take a look back at what we saw a couple of notes. And first of all, if you listen to the Instant Reaction
podcast or watch us on YouTube, thank
you, as always, for that. I know
a lot of people were listening, downloading, and
viewing, and always greatly appreciate
everybody that was listening in.
I didn't have it.
You know, I normally like to go up to about
a half hour after the game, and I just
couldn't. The frustration level was high.
I just... I ran out of steam and it's gonna happen from time to time my voice still not recovered from hollering at
Kinnick Stadium and hollering at PJ Fleck and the rest of the crew um so it was not
it was a very frustrating day and you know the-hour rule. And this one just lingers longer.
It really does.
You know, this is one that is going to stick with you.
And with the bye week,
well, the bye week's a great thing for this team.
They need it.
After eight straight weeks of football,
the injuries that have piled up,
the possibility of getting Noah Shannon back in November,
this team needs a break.
Us as a fan base, though,
you want to see the team out there again, right? It's tough to swallow this one. And if you're somebody like me that loves this
rivalry game, loves Floyd or Rosedale, loves this story, grew up in North Iowa like I did, like,
yeah, it sucks. It really does. This sucks. And this is one I haven't been able to flush.
And obviously the main reason for that is the play call with inside two minutes left
and the punt return by Cooper Dijon.
And being robbed of what would have gone down as one of the most incredible plays in Iowa football history.
You think back, Rob Houtland kicking the field goal
to beat Michigan in the number one versus number two game in 1985.
Great moment in a 12-10 game.
Same as this one.
But it's still a short walk-off field goal, right?
Beating Michigan, beating Penn State
in the walk-off varieties that they did.
Keith Duncan against Michigan.
The win against Penn State with Daniel Murray.
Great wins, but they're field goals, right?
This was different.
Though it wasn't a walk-off, another walk-off victory.
Seven getting six, right?
Marvin McNutt against Michigan State in 2009.
That was incredible.
The Capital One Bull, which was taped, but that was also the coaching staff's ineptitude
of clock management that led to that play.
This felt different because as poorly as Iowa played offensively, as bad as Deacon Hill was,
as stagnant
as the running game got,
to have Cooper DeGene,
he is a beloved figure in this state.
A guy that grew up
in the state, small town kid,
that's just an
incredible athlete. And doing what he
did. Thinking back to his freshman year,
he never played cornerback before in his life.
And he goes out there and he's playing at the last couple of games of the year.
He's just, he's so different.
And to have him make that play and to have six guys surrounding him, all six of them,
by the way, that didn't think he called for a fair catch.
That didn't stop because of that.
And the letter of the law is to negate that.
That aside.
And to have that taken away is frustrating.
And to the letter of the law, was it correct?
Could you determine that Cooper Dijon
was making some kind of motion with his left hand
as he was pointing at the football
that you could possibly interpret
as making the illegal fair catch call.
You could.
Now, also, to overturn a call,
my belief is that it has to be something that is
absolutely, there's no immobility to it, right?
There was in this play.
Try running with your arm out pointing
and have your left arm just stagnant.
Is that what he's supposed to do?
The field level view of it makes it even more damning.
And then you hear the stories on Twitter.
Jade Michael, the guy that's had some stories before,
saying that the booth replay official
Is from Minnesota, Minnesota grad
Tim O'Day, who was the head official for this football game
Was also a sideline official for the game last year against Minnesota
He was the one that incorrectly called Jack Campbell out
On the touchdown that would have given Iowa the lead at the time.
Iowa, of course, gets the win in that one.
It adds a lot of questions.
And this is not to say that the game was fixed.
It's not to say that this crew had money on it.
That's not what this is.
But it leads to questions.
That's all it is, questions.
When you have these kind of things
happen, that's where we are.
And the state of Iowa
wanted to investigate because
of a tip that they got
on a student
athlete.
Doesn't this something need to be looked at?
I don't know.
But it is very, very interesting.
I think that's a word that Kirk used yesterday, right?
Interesting.
It's very interesting that the same official
that blew a call a year ago
in the Iowa-Minnesota game blows it again.
It's very interesting that this official
blew a game Oklahoma State Central Michigan in 2016 it's
interesting we'll leave it at that more back into the game and a little bit deeper look into things
the numbers from pro football focus the legacy of Kirk Ferentz and coordinators not being available
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Trent Conant back with you once again
on the Locked On Hawkeyes podcast.
Thanks for making Locked On Hawkeyes
your first listen every day.
Again, big shout out to everybody
that checked in with the Instant Reaction podcast.
Really enjoy those and ability to
go off the cuff a little bit more.
You know, you have that chance to
go out there with the raw emotion and that raw emotion
still there.
Boy, as I said at the top, it just this one is very difficult to swallow going through
and watching the game.
So I will marches down the field, gets a field goal out of it.
Deacon Hill missed a wide open Seth Anderson.
He was just running a drag route across the middle.
He was late getting the ball.
And that was a story throughout the course of the day. Just so late getting it out. One of
the two fumbles that he had in the football game, it was getting the ball out late. The
frustrating element, as Kirk said, well, we watch practice and he's the best guy.
Well, there's two ways to look at that. Okay, that's fine. If that's your best guy,
you're screwed because he's not good.
That's the easiest component here.
Guy's completing 36% of his passes now since he came in
in the Michigan State game. He's not good.
It's Frank
and it's true. Nobody can look
at him and say he's a good quarterback because he's not.
If that's the best he got,
so be it.
What are you doing to help him out what are you doing to improve him
and this is something that drives me nuts about kirk ferentz in general as a football coach it's
about the system it's about the system one of my favorite coaches ever mr mayor basketball coach
back in osage back in the day won won a state championship in 95. Mr. Mayer was somebody that
always adapted to the talent that he had on hand. And if you got a team that's got a lot of speed,
you got a team that's going to do it a certain way, you got a team that's got height, whatever
it is, you got a team of shooters, he's going to adapt to what he has. Kirk Fenton says no
adaptation. It is, this is our style. And though they've evolved the passing game,
excuse me, the running game, and what they've done,
and at least not been strictly only inside and outside zone plays in the zone blocking scheme, they've evolved past that.
It's still not good enough.
I mean, look, Minnesota's okay defensively,
but let's not make them out to be the 85 Bears.
This is not the 2000 Ravens.
And I couldn't run the ball against him.
I had the tackles are banged up, and he had another Ravens. And I couldn't run the ball against him. And the tackles are banged up and he had another injury this week. Can't run the ball. We've had
five years now of the new blocking scheme and it took him five years to finally stop pissing and
moaning about it and whining that that's not the way it should be. Well, Kirk, you can't do it
anymore. And he finally evolved past that. And is it going to take another five years?
Will you actually come into the 21st century in your passing game?
The scheme is completely broken.
Adapt?
Oh, God forbid.
And with the new Big Ten coming,
and the last year of the Big Ten West,
to not come into this season with something different,
and now in-season, to not do anything different.
And the Cooper-Dijon thing, we were having fun with it.
What's it going to hurt?
Last year, his idiot son said,
hey, what's the upside when he was asked about the quarterback?
I'm playing the backup quarterback.
Well, the upside is you're not the worst offense in the country.
That's the upside.
And here you are, you double down, actually triple down on yourself.
And you let your little baby boy be able to do his thing.
We're going to let him run the offense.
Why?
Who knows?
Any other offensive coordinator in the country would have been fired.
Doesn't matter the program.
Doesn't matter the level.
Every single one of them would have been fired.
But baby boy, he got another year and it's cratered again.
And what has he done to adjust?
Nothing.
What has he done to help this team out?
What has he done to help his quarterback out?
Nothing.
He doesn't have the football acumen to be a play caller.
He can script plays.
He can go through those first 12, 15, 20 plays, whatever it is,
and you work on them and you practice them, and that is your game plan coming in.
But when there's shots being fired, he has no clue.
He doesn't know what he's doing.
He has no clue what he's doing as a play caller in game.
And we see it week after week, year after year.
It's the same thing.
He doesn't know what he's doing.
Bryce is not going to be fired.
We know that.
And if it is, John Budmeier
would be the guy that would take over.
He's the only other guy that has called plays.
There's another issue.
You're already limited enough offensively.
Do you have anybody else up there that's going to help out?
You got John Budmeier, who comes in
after being fired after one year as an offensive coordinator.
That's who you're bringing in.
Colton Colbin's never called plays.
Offensive line coach, never called plays.
It goes on and on and on.
Ineptitude stacked on ineptitude.
What does it lead to?
More ineptitude.
This is the worst offense in the country.
Here's a dirty little secret.
It was going to be awful, even with Cade McNamara.
It was going to be awful because they haven't been able to develop
and maintain offensive line, because they have not evolved,
because they do not have anything schematically in the passing game
that they can figure out.
The route concepts are broken.
There are things that don't work in college football.
Are they going to evolve?
Are they going to change?
Are they going to try something?
Of course not.
God forbid.
You actually try to do something.
Actually coach.
Actually do some coaching.
Nope, just keep doing the same thing.
Over and over again, that's what they're going to do.
Full circle.
Let's talk about the first drive.
We didn't get very far on this one.
That was throughout the course of the game.
And credit to this defense.
I mean, they were all over the place.
They played so well.
Absolutely screwed.
A couple of short fields.
Give up two Deacon Hill fumbles and lead into field goals.
This team, this defense deserves so much better.
This special teams deserves so much better.
They do.
But because baby boy needed a job, I guess. And so Kirk can see his grandkids.
We have to be subjected to this. It's not fair as a fan. It just isn't.
Nepotism is a ugly word. Nepotism is an ugly thing.
And we're seeing it play out once again.
And now Kirk Ferentz is going to put Beth Goetz in an impossible situation.
If Kirk does not walk away, he is going to make the new athletic director,
somebody that is already beloved on so many camps,
from the ability and the understanding of what the future of college athletics is going to be,
people inside the athletic department world singing her praises.
Coaches at the University of Iowa.
Nothing but great things to say.
And Kirk, because he likes his boy, he likes to have his grandkids around,
is going to put her in an incredibly difficult spot.
And that's going to be Kirk Ferentz's legacy.
That's what he's going to be remembered by, is this.
Yes, we'll remember the great moments, but every time.
And it's the same thing with Hayden.
Hayden wanted to step away after the great 95 season,
wanted to walk away.
And Timmy, Dee, Tim Dwight, Davian Banks,
Matt Sherman, and the rest of the crew talked him into coming back for another year and it was a disappointing year and then another disappointing year
and then a very quickly crater
and he had health concerns on top of it
but we still remember that part of it
and this is going to be a part of the legacy that's going to be remembered
and the great what-ifs, what this
program could have been. We're not asking for the USC offense or Ohio State. Just competency.
Just Ken O'Keefe's offense in the odds. What this team could have been with this defense and special
teams. Because those defenses and special teams, really outside of 2004 and 2009,
were not close to that.
And the special teams certainly were close to it.
They had Darrell Wilson running the special teams.
He had a bunch of guys with their hands involved.
They have gone to such another level.
Speaking of that, remember when LeVar Woods took over as a special teams coordinator?
We saw a lot of trick plays and different things.
We had the polecat
against Ohio State. We had the wild play
that they ran up in Minnesota.
We saw a lot of different things.
It's like, gone.
Maybe
we need a welfare check on Kirk
Ferencz. You know when you hear those stories
about older people being taken advantage
of? Maybe he's being taken advantage of
by his son. I don't know.
I'm just searching for theories here.
It's a joke.
Joke, people.
Don't take that wrong with it.
It's a joke.
All right.
Coming back, we take one final look back at the Minnesota game.
Well, not one final look back.
We'll be talking about this one for a long, long time.
What do the numbers say, and where does this team turn from there?
We'll do that as we continue here.
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Trent Conner back with you one final time on the Lockdown Hawkeyes podcast.
All right.
So the numbers.
Look, we didn't go through the game as much as I thought.
These notes are kind of ugly.
Here's the numbers, though, for you.
Deacon Hill, a 30.1.
Seems high.
Grading skill up to 100.
He was a 108 when he was blitzed and 920 when he was not.
How about when he had a clean pocket?
8023 for 70 yards.
Bad.
Running back.
Couldn't get the running game going.
Caleb Johnson graded out the best at a 56.
That's not good.
LaShawn Williams behind him with a 54.
Jazzy on Patterson, a 51.
Couldn't run the football.
Idiots.
Best tight end, Johnny Bacuzzi.
Look, the tight end position is basically dead here.
Addison Ostrenga is the guy that at least has the athleticism
to do some of the things that they wanted to do in the past.
But Bacuzzi and Stylianos are certainly not stretch kind of tight ends out there.
They're a couple of glorified tackles.
Wide receiver was the bright spot offensively.
I mean, how crazy is that?
After what we went through the last three weeks, Deontay Fines was excellent. And getting the ball up in space to Vines,
had to play in the end zone that led into a pass interference call. Had the great catch on the
sideline. Made a couple other catches out there. He was involved. Hey, look what happens. Pretty
good. Nico Ragini was Ragini. We saw the drop from Seth Anderson. Something was in his face.
And at the game, I couldn't tell.
That was on the side of the field that I sit on,
but couldn't tell at the time.
What are you watching in a replay?
You can see, I mean, they lost the ball in the sun.
What are you going to do?
The shadow was coming through there.
It was a weird spot.
And right as the ball came out of the shadow,
his eyes were looking right in the sun.
Seth Anderson needs to be involved more.
I think he's going to be fine.
I think he can be a fine offensive lineman
O-line, not great
Logan Jones grades out the best
He was a 68, pretty solid
Nick DeYoung coming back from injury
He was okay, a 63
Connor Colby, a 59
Rusty Feth, a 52
Jennings Dunker and Mason Richmond, your two tackles
They were brutal, 49 and 46
Add it all up
10 points out of the offense. Defensively
well things look a little bit
better on the defensive side of the football
that defensive line we certainly wondered
about why A. Black and he wasn't the same
guy. I don't think that we saw the
last couple of weeks. He was still solid though
and playing through that injury that shoulder injury
let's hope he can be healthy. Deontay
Craig he graded out the highest of the defensive
line followed by Loken Lee, Ethan Hercut, and Joe Evans,
along with Aaron Graves. All five of those guys over a 71 grade
for each and every one of them. That was good. Wyatt was a 67. Pittman finally got
out there, got a few snaps. He was a 66, and Llewellyn was the lowest of the
defensive line. It wasn't the defense's fault. Linebackers were great. Jay Higgins
was great as always. He's an 82. Nick Jackson
a 77. Big step forward. Saw a lot
of Kyler Fisher. He was a 66.9.
He was good in his role
when they went to the 4-3. Sebastian Castro,
your best defensive back. Numbers not great out of
the defensive backfield. Quinn Schulte
a 63. Cooper Dajin very low
with a 49. And Jamari Harris even worse
at 43. I didn't think it was that bad,
but that's their grading scale. Those are the numbers, and Jamari Harris served even worse at 43. Like, I didn't think it was that bad, but that's their grading scale.
Those are the numbers, and that's where we are.
We're out of here for today.
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Myself, LaShawn will be there.
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Going to be a great time. Looking forward to that.
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