Locked On Hawkeyes - Daily Podcast On Iowa Hawkeyes Football & Basketball - Iowa Hawkeyes vs. Oklahoma State Cowboys: Who Takes Second at NCAA Wrestling?

Starting point is 00:00:00 Will Penn State Wrestling rewrite the history books again and set those same records? And Penn State, we all know that they're going to win an NCAA championship, so it makes that second place race a little more intriguing with Iowa and Oklahoma State. You are locked on College Crossover, part of the Locked On Podcast Network. Your team every day. You are locked on to college wrestling and the NCAA tournament. Thanks so much for making this crossover episode your first listen and watch today. My name is Zach Saco of locked on Nittany lions,

Starting point is 00:00:40 and that is Cody Stovall of locked on Oklahoma state and Trent Condon of locked on hot guys as we are all teaming up together For one final preview ahead of the NCAA tournament today show is brought to you by game time download the game time app create an account And use code locked on college for $20 off your first purchase Well, we are your go-to for everything Penn State Oklahoma State and Iowa So if you're not already becoming everyday or subscribed to the YouTube channels and wherever you get your podcasts to stay up to date with all the in-depth coverage around your favorite teams

Starting point is 00:01:10 and let us know your predictions down in the comment section for the NCAA tournament and your championship, your champion expectations. We're gonna give our predictions and our analysis here starting with Penn State and if they're actually gonna do it, if they're gonna reset the records they did a season ago, and it's great to get some outside, somebody outside of the Penn State bubble here because I think they do it.

Starting point is 00:01:31 I think that they do reset the records. Part of the reason is they have guys like Luke Lilladal. In addition to all of the other wrestlers that can just score points at will, bonus points are going to be the difference here. But I also do think that they get seven finalists. I think they go five and two in the championships when I did make my predictions individually on my own, but I think they get five champions and they get seven finalists in total. That beats the number from a season ago.

Starting point is 00:01:56 So if the team that set records last year had six finalists, and I think this one gets seven finalists, that's enough to get them across the finish line once again, but the debate is that, well, last year's team wasn't even the best of all time because they didn't get 10 out of 10 all Americans. They didn't break the record for most individual champions.

Starting point is 00:02:15 And so this time around, I don't think it's gonna be up for debate. They're gonna get 10 out of 10 all Americans. They're gonna get seven finalists. And then even if they go four and three, that's still gonna break the scoring record. So I don't know, maybe, maybe you can burst my bubble here, but I think this team goes down as the best in history.

Starting point is 00:02:33 It's very possible. I wouldn't have thought that chasing down last year's team was a possibility when the season started, but if you've been watching, especially the big 10 championships and things of that nature, I think it's very, very likely that that happens. But at the same time, I would also argue that there's gonna be some individuals that have the capability to wrestle Penn State a little bit differently than they have previously. And for that alone, I think it should add another layer of mystique to this NCAA tournament. You have obviously the top level talent, the depth of the roster,

Starting point is 00:03:05 and then you couple it with where this thing's gonna be, and obviously gonna have kind of the home crowd advantage that's gonna go along with it. Now, if we had this thing maybe down in Tulsa or Oklahoma City or Des Moines, maybe we could have a different type of conversation, but that building is gonna be packed with Nittany Lion fans, so they're also gonna have the hometown support

Starting point is 00:03:24 on top of it. I think that the baseline is just that, breaking the scoring record at 172 and a half. And if I had to make a bet for anybody that listens to Lockdown Hawkeyes, they know I like to bet a lot. I would definitely be betting that yes, Penn State, unfortunately, as sad as it is,

Starting point is 00:03:38 they are going to break the scoring record. It's interesting that we all agree here. It's not only my confidence, but it seems like there's a little bit of pessimism from the Oklahoma State and the Iowa side of things. And I guess rightfully so to an extent because Oklahoma State did not live up to expectations and neither did Iowa at the respective conference tournaments. Now, Oklahoma State had six finalists in the championships, but they go one and five in the process. But Trent, to go back to you, Iowa finished fourth at Big Ten's. That's a massive disappointment. Everybody making the jokes about Jacori Timmer and Kyle Parco and how expensive they were

Starting point is 00:04:16 and their NIL packages and the jokes essentially wrote themselves, but also some people pointed out that Jacori Timmer doesn't look the same as he did when he was at his other destinations before Iowa. And same thing with Kyle Parker, that there's just a difference in their personality. So what's kind of going on from Iowa's perspective where maybe this is, there is a little more that meets the eye here.

Starting point is 00:04:42 Yeah, and you know, when we talked Zach right before Big 10s, I brought up that there was a little bit more optimism going into Big 10s and with it with Nationals because of what we saw at the end of the season, what we saw against Cody Squad, against Oklahoma State in that final duel, duel kind of after the Penn State duel, Iowa looked like they were gaining momentum that they were building. And then once again, it's the same garbage that we've seen for the better part of a half decade now is when it came to the big tens and what the Nationals and we've seen in the past that they just didn't have gas left in the tank. And so it's crazy.

Starting point is 00:05:16 We go from one narrative, hey, maybe this is going to be a little bit different, that it's not going to be a dead team and dead legs by the time that they get to Nationals. And now we're right back to the same song and dance. Now here's the great thing. They can change that narrative and if they go out there and they solidly take second place, then we can say, hey, maybe what we saw, it was a bad big tens, but what we saw at the app at the end of the season was not this illusion that maybe the Brands brothers are figuring something out at the end of the season.

Starting point is 00:05:43 But if it goes like the way that I anticipate it's going to go this weekend and it's going to be another whole hum type of effort, the questions and the frustration of this fan base is only going to build. Well, obviously the beauty of Nationals is it can completely change the narrative that's even transpired throughout the course of the season and I think Trent nailed it when you watch the Oklahoma State Iowa Duel. It was a disaster from our perspective. It was ugly. They controlled

Starting point is 00:06:08 almost every match. The crowd was absolutely insane. Angelo doing his little antics, of course, fueled this thing a little bit more. So, I would love nothing more than to, you know, kind of talk some trash and have the conversation of how Oklahoma State should and could pass Iowa for number two. But we showed up in the finals of the Big 12 Championships and we laid a bunch of duds. We looked very hesitant. We looked reluctant to be aggressive. And you can't wrestle that way whenever you're trying to overcome the likes of the Penn States and the Iowas.

Starting point is 00:06:38 And even to some degree, you're going to have your Nebraska, Michigan, Ohio State conversations mixed in here as well. But yeah, I think the storyline of Oklahoma State, Iowa definitely got a little bit different after the Big Ten championships and even our failure in the finals. Sending six to the finals, great story. Having five lose, that's pretty terrible.

Starting point is 00:06:57 But with the way that I've performed in the Big Tens, I do think it actually does raise this storyline even more because now it looks like it's possible to eclipse Iowa. After the Iowa duel, it was like there's no chance, right? There's no chance we were going to catch Iowa. But at least this gives everybody the ability to change the narrative and build some anticipation for the incoming year. I guess we should have included Lockdown on Nebraska in this conversation because I won Oklahoma State might not even be the second place team at the end of the day.

Starting point is 00:07:29 So let's, let's conclude this segment on that and actually make a, a standstill prediction on it. I think Oklahoma State because of how many champions they actually got respectively. And I know that's the big 12 tournament, but if I was not going to be able to get that many wrestlers deep into their respect of brackets, so Drake Ayala, Stephen Buchanan, but look at Oklahoma State, Wyatt Hendrickson and Troy Spratley and Luke Cerber and six compared to Trent. So correct me. Iowa had just just Stephen Buchanan and he lost and Drake Ay'll end up getting pinned by Lucas Byrd. So those were the only two finalists if I'm not mistaken and back to back seasons now without a Big Ten champion something obviously

Starting point is 00:08:13 unheard of for Iowa wrestling to go back to back years with that Lisa had two finals this year. That was a step forward from what they were a year ago, but you know I got caught. I'll tell you what we're going to go wait by wait now. I certainly have my perspective at 33 the way that he's gonna bounce back, but yeah, Buchanan just a kind of a surprising effort there at 97 and what we saw out of him and thinking that at least it was gonna be a different type of match than we get in that one a lot of

Starting point is 00:08:39 frustration and that's kind of where we are from the Iowa perspective. The frustration that kind of continues to build with this fan base and and it stinks To see your conference brother and what Penn State has been into yeah, you can get excited about the future But hey, we still got an NCAA to get ready for and that's where we are Do you think they finished second? Do you think I would second place? I don't and I don't know if you guys saw it's not Our friends at fandole, but there is a betting market that does have the market out there who is the champion without Penn State. Take them out of the equation or who basically finishes in second. I was the betting choice at plus 125. I would not bet that Oklahoma State, the second

Starting point is 00:09:15 choice. How about you and I Northern Iowa at a plus three, three 50, the third choice, but I jump on Nebraska. You get the Huskers a plus 450 right now to finish in second with obviously what they have three high level guys that absolutely can be there wrestling in the finals. That would definitely be where I'd be investing my money. You mentioned you and I and I'm so glad that you did. They are a very, very, very good club. And we talk about the relationship between Oklahoma State, Iowa. That could be another conversation as well, because they almost crept up and won the Big 12 Championship. So are we eclipsing Iowa maybe, but we need to show that there is a differentiation between us and you and I, because we did not show that in the Big 12s.

Starting point is 00:10:01 It was very close to the Big 12 tournament. I think that Oklahoma State can do it. I have more confidence in Oklahoma State, but I am, I do like, you said Nebraska plus 450. That, that, that seems a little enticing to me. So if we're going off of Intermatt to finish up the segment here, Penn State's projected to get 158 points. So short of that 172 and a half expectation, even though we all, that, that record, even though we all agree that they will break it, Intermatt says Iowa would finish in second with 82 points Nebraska and third with 68 Oklahoma State was 63 and a half at fourth place

Starting point is 00:10:32 So again, let us know your predictions down in the comment section now There are some other things some storylines to discuss here 184 can Carter Starachi do something completely unprecedented a NCAA title, Parker Kakeisen stands in the way, so does Dustin Plot, but what about Angelo Ferrari? Could he have disrupted this thing, or is Iowa being smart by playing the long game? We'll talk about it next here, coming up on this Lockdown crossover. And today's crossover episode is brought to you by Monarch Money. You ever check your bank account and wonder, where did all my money go?

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Starting point is 00:13:44 As Angelo Ferrari took out Dustin Plott, And we're gonna we're gonna predict some upsets here in the process, but I guess some hypothetical upsets as Angelo Ferrari took out Dustin Plot he kept it close with Carter Starachi and when it comes to younger wrestlers guys who are freshmen and sophomores and sometimes you see them bloom as a junior, but Angelo Ferrari the argument that I make with Luke Lillard I think he's going to get a title as a true freshman just to throw that out there But Angelo Ferrari is's going to get a title as a true freshman just to throw that out there. But Angela Ferrari is only going to get better. And I think we all agree here that Ferrari, while there's a reason they bench Gabe Arnold because Ferrari was the better overall wrestler and we saw that against Durace. And then not everybody believed

Starting point is 00:14:16 it until the win against Dustin Plot happened. So let's make sense of this. Trent, I think it's smart to preserve the red shirt, have him for four years, you know, just unabound. There's no issues. And then that way, when this weight class loses plot, Starachi, Parker Kaizen, then it's a total free-for-all after that. Max McAnally is still there, but I can't help but think even Angelo Ferrari could have made some noise this year, depending on where he was in the bracket. He could have, but is he gonna win a national championship? I mean, you just talk about the depth of this weight class

Starting point is 00:14:52 and three guys that I think all feel they could be national champions this year. And I'll tell you, Keke Eisen, he's gonna go there believing that he can beat Carter Sorachi and hold him from getting that fifth national championship and do something obviously unprecedented that we've never seen before. So you're in a weight class that is absolutely stacked, it's with upperclassmen, and the biggest thing from the Iowa perspective, you're not

Starting point is 00:15:15 beating Penn State. Look, Penn State could show up with everybody with food poisoning, they're still going to be able to generate enough points that they're gonna win a national championship. They can wrestle as poorly as they have, maybe in all of their collegiate careers, all 10 guys, and guess what? They're still going to win a national championship. From the Iowa perspective, it's not about 2025. It's 2026 through 2029, and potentially,

Starting point is 00:15:38 as we're talking about a five-timer, maybe you can have a four-timer with Angelo Ferrari, but that is what it's about and because of all those things I know you want to put your best foot forward give yourself the better opportunity in reality Your best foot forward is not doing anything to upend Penn State and likely not gonna bring home a title even as good as he is at 184 Cody the Concern was okay. Carter's to Rachi ultimately defeated Angelo Ferrari. Dustin plot did not do that

Starting point is 00:16:07 So I think Trent gives you some due respect that plot should still be considered a national title contender Where do you stand on that because yes, yes It was close and you and I kind of hashed it out that you know Maybe plot has taken a step back here others disagree though and say that we're off the mark with that one Well, I hope they're wrong or I'm sorry, I hope they're right and I'm wrong because yeah, I I have not seen a progression out of Dustin Plot much of the season, especially the latter half of the season and Kekeisen is my pick to be 100% honest with you because Ferrari did beat plot, right? He beat plot. It is what it is. But Parker Kekeisen throws Dustin Plot around like he's a redheaded stepchild that doesn't belong

Starting point is 00:16:50 on the mat. Now, do I believe that? No, I think Dustin Plot is a bad man, pajama that would whoop my tail seven times in a bar fight. But at the same time, Kekeisen is a bad dude. Dustin Plot has not been wrestling in my opinion, as well as he had at some point in time in the past. Throughout half of the season, it felt like this was a different Dustin Plot, but just like Oklahoma State in the championships of the Big 12s, he's somewhat tentative. And Parker Keckheisen is like a grown man that feels like he shouldn't be at this weight class. You shouldn't move somebody like Dustin Plot a national runner up level wrestler like he's absolutely standing still but it is what it is. I will say that we're kind of irritated that it's Arnold instead of Ferrari. Now,

Starting point is 00:17:35 I actually didn't view it from Trent's standpoint about you know looking towards the future that actually makes a ton of sense but hate hate to be a bubble buster, but if anybody thinks that the Ferrari family is going to stay at any college at any time for four years, that's absolutely wild to me. So is he going to win the national championship this year? No. Would it make more sense for him to redshirt and stay four years at Iowa?

Starting point is 00:17:58 Yeah. But I also think that's to some degree wishful thinking. We're irritated about it. We wanted some retribution. I think that Justin Plot can beat Angelo right now. However, the Kekkeisen and Starachi's story is a little bit different. And Starachi and Plot are on a crash course with those one with that one versus four seed

Starting point is 00:18:16 matchup. It would be Max McAnally and Parker Kekkeisen on the other side and I, hey, I said that Starachi was gonna go to sudden victory with McEnally and that the difference was going to be the experience. And it truly was that because he takes, I don't like using the word lazy when analyzing the sport of wrestling, but it was a miscalculated shot attempt by Max McEnally

Starting point is 00:18:37 that a redshirt freshman would make against Carter Starachi and Starachi made him pay for it. But McEnally is not far off. And again, with the same thing, hey, he's just an experience. All the talent and potential in the world, he could maybe do something that is unthinkable and knock off Parker Kekkeisen.

Starting point is 00:18:52 But you've already kind of alluded to it, Cody. You don't think that happens. You don't think Carter Starachi gets his fifth title. He is one of my champions here. Out of all the Penn State finalists that I have seven, he's one of the five that actually goes on and wins and does something entirely unprecedented, something that will never happen again

Starting point is 00:19:10 because eligibility has returned back to normal since COVID and society and everything has kind of returned to somewhat semblance of normalcy here. Trent, I want you to jump in. Does Kakeisen prevent Starachi from history? Does Kakeisen prevent Starachi from history? Does McEnally prevent Starachi from history? Or are you taking Carter to get a fifth NCW title? I'm call it wishful thinking.

Starting point is 00:19:34 I played high school baseball with Doug Schwab, the UNI wrestling coach. So maybe that's a piece of it too, but I just, I want to see Penn State at least have to suffer a little bit here. Okay, so you don't get a guy that wins a National championship, I mean come on. So let's let's go that route Let's get Parker heck guys a keck eisen to win the national championship here

Starting point is 00:19:54 I do wonder you go back to when they wrestled back in November, you know in that overtime you saw the starachy You had that underhook for so long here. I think there's gonna be a good game plan that we're gonna get there I think we're gonna get the match here. And again, it's probably wishful thinking because Carter Starachi is just that. He is an absolute star, but I'll go with the underdog here and give me the UNI Panther.

Starting point is 00:20:15 All right. And it's really not an underdog. It is from the fact that he has four national titles already. Yeah. I mean, it was close. It was close. I was kind of sweating watching that match thinking, all right,

Starting point is 00:20:29 Starachi, is he going to give up the takedown? But it was it was just that level of I don't even know what it is at that point. Just that persistence. And I guess that overall strength that proved through because when they went through the scramble, I think I think that Starachi is a little more slightly in terms of agility and speed, but Kakaizen just has the strength that's, that's really unmatched. So if you had to give one or the other, I think Starachi has the speed element and the

Starting point is 00:20:56 quickness, whereas Kakaizen maybe has the overall strength. And I know Starachi might say that I'm full of it. I have, I check all those boxes, Kakaizen, that's why he ultimately lost. I expect that one to go to tiebreaker. I, and it might go back and forth where it's sudden victory tiebreaker, sudden victory tiebreaker, cause they're not gonna do ultimate tiebreaker

Starting point is 00:21:13 in the post season here, but it would, that also is going to be the Hodge trophy winner. Because you can't just give it to somebody, you can't just give it to somebody else if Starachi is going to take a fifth NCAA title, and you can't give it to somebody else if Starachi is going to take a fifth NCAA title and you can't give it to somebody else if that person knocks him off in the championship to prevent history as well. So that's where it's going to be. The Hodge Trophy is going to end up either in the hands of Carter Starachi for winning the fifth or Parker Kakeisen for preventing

Starting point is 00:21:40 a fifth NCAA title. Got some other predictions to make. Gable Steveson, everybody expects him to win at heavyweight, but if Cody has some confidence in Oklahoma State, it's he thinks that Wyatt Henderson can not only knock off Kurt Fleet on the way, he thinks that he can give Gable Steveson a fight as well. So we're gonna make some rapid fire predictions. Go through that matchup first and then go through each individual weight class to wrap it up here on this Lockdown crossover. And today's episode is also brought to you by 5-Hour Energy. Daylight savings snuck up on us again and if you're feeling that lost hour of sleep, 5-Hour Energy has your back. The extra sunshine means more time for fun but sometimes you need a little boost to power through. Whether you're staying up late watching the NCAA tournament, squeezing in a round of golf after work,

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Starting point is 00:24:12 Now as much as I like Greg Kirkfleet and thinks he can give Gable Stevenson a fight and I think that it will be close, I just can't bring myself to predict Kirkfleet, anybody over Stevenson in the process here. So I guess add some clarity to this. Why do you think Hendrickson can defeat two super giants that are in front of him? In my defense, I said he's going to beat one of them. I think Greg would be the likely candidate. I don't necessarily think he can bring down Gable, but I do think that he's definitely

Starting point is 00:24:43 good enough to beat Greg. And here's why. This is not the same Wyatt Henderson you've seen the last couple of years that was normally dominant in most of his time at Air Force. But when it came to these major matches, he had some disadvantages. Enter the Magic Man. If anybody on the roster has learned to be more crafty than Wyatt Henderson, I don't know who it would be. I think some of the tutelage under David Taylor is seen most by Wyatt Henderson. So not only does he have the strength to typically do a lot,

Starting point is 00:25:11 but now he has the crafty ability in scramble scenarios to typically find himself in advantageous situations. So I think because of his ability to score now at a different level under David Taylor is what gives him this ability to take down Greg a level under David Taylor is what gives him this ability to take down Greg. II agree that he's become well, he has been

Starting point is 00:25:31 statistically speaking the most dominant wrestler above everybody else at every weight class. He has statistically been the most dominant and he's a military second lieutenant that wrist injury ain't gonna bother him now. Not

Starting point is 00:25:42 enough. Buddy, he's a man. He's not 40 yet, but he's a man. Let me point out that the last time that Kurt Fleet, now granted this was in freestyle, Greg Kurt Fleet teched, was a 10 to nothing tech, if I'm not mistaken, against Hendrickson. So that's the last time they met, but that was a while ago. That was during the Olympic team trials.

Starting point is 00:25:59 So Trent Gable-Steveson, is he absolutely unbeatable? Carter Staracci was asked about it at Penn State Wrestling Media availability. And Carter says, no, it is not impossible to beat him. I could bulk up and alluding to defeating Steven if he had to. But talked about how on that given day, if Kirk Vlader, whomever makes it to the championship, that you could change your life forever

Starting point is 00:26:22 by doing something that everybody sees as impossible. So is it is it impossible? Yeah, I'm gonna keep this one short and sweet. Yeah, it's impossible Gable Stevenson is gonna dominate this thing It's it's over before it even begins. I Will take the middle of the road approach. I do think Gable Stevenson wins I do think Greg Kirk fleet is able to defeat Hendrickson and I think that he moves on and I don't think that Stevenson is just rattling off takedown after takedown for what it is worth It wasn't a major decision against Kirk fleet But Steveson was in control from start to finish the way to beat

Starting point is 00:26:52 Steveson is a lot of luck and a lot of defense if you can somehow win and get that to sudden victory or tiebreaker It seems even impossible trying to map it out But the only way to defeat Steveson is you win two to one and secure a riding time point, an extra escape of some sort, but that's, Steveson's so good, so elite, because he's minimized the ways that you can defeat him. He's narrowed the way, the amount of ways

Starting point is 00:27:16 that you can defeat him in a wrestling match. So, we all- And can we just say the fact that he gets to be training partners with John Jones, that should be illegal, all Jones? That should be illegal. All right. That is absolutely ridiculous. How are you going to beat somebody that can roll around with arguably the greatest

Starting point is 00:27:32 UFC fighter of all time? It, I don't get it. Well, and, and he's won an Olympic gold medal. He, he went into WWE. He went into the NFL. I feel like this is a step backwards, but you have an IL, you have a chance to hoist another trophy, why not make some quick money along the way?

Starting point is 00:27:50 It's something that's like riding a bike for Stevenson. We talk about it, but this is like riding a bike for him, just going back to folk style wrestling at the collegiate level. You won an Olympic gold. I don't know how this satisfies you in a way, you know, satisfies you in a way, but he's here and nobody's going to stop him. So let's, to finish up, let's, let's rattle off. So this is going to be a little rapid fire as we get towards the end of the show

Starting point is 00:28:13 here. Again, let us know your predictions down below, but there's not going to be a lot of analysis. This is kind of just pass and go pass and go 125. I'm going to take Luke Lolladol over. I'm going to, and if you guys have a finalist as well, I'm going to take Luke Lilladal over, and if you guys have a finalist as well, I'm going to take Luke Lilladal over Jet Strickenberger at 125 just to start it off and we'll work our way up. I got Ramos beating Lilladal and getting it done. He, of course, Matt Ramos,

Starting point is 00:28:37 he was the one that ended Spencer's lead bid for a four time. And the other way, he's going to end Lilladal's before it even gets started. So he can't be a four timer. I do think Ramos gets it, but I'm hoping that Ventresca adds a layer of fun to this whole ordeal. No choice Spratley. You don't think Spratley gets in there. Well, I was I want to see Spratley versus Strickenberger like that is the the most anticipated match

Starting point is 00:29:02 but it doesn't appear as though based on the bracket that it's likely to happen Yeah, and I think Troy's really really good, but I think that there's some veteran guys ahead of him that are just gonna be able to win out regardless 133 I don't have a Penn State wrestler here. I hope Braden Davis. I think he gets onto the podium, but 133 I'm gonna go Lucas bird over Drake Ayala again. I Hate to admit this but over Drake Ayala again. I hate to admit this, but I have Ayala. I have Ayala over Bird getting the rematch after falling by pinning the Big 10s and Ayala gets his first national championship. All right, on to 141. Penn State wrestling fans might be surprised by this. I don't have Bo Bartlett in the championship. I have him taking third. I have Jesse Mendes over Andrew

Starting point is 00:29:45 Elirez in the finals. I have Elirez. I think he'll make a bounce back from what happened to him at Big 12s. And I guess I'm the one that I'll take Bo Bartley. You give me a Penn State wrestler? Nobody wants him. I'll take him. I just think it's so difficult. The caliber of Jesse Mez to defeat him three times in a row. I just can't see it. I'll say this. Brock Hardy with the path that he has to go through is not getting to... I was going to say as long as it's not Hardy, I'm happy. Because I dang sure don't want to see Nebraska finish ahead of us.

Starting point is 00:30:19 149. Hey, this is where Rich Lovett could potentially boost Nebraska's odds. But I think that Shane Van Ness gets some revenge However loses to the odds on favorite there Caleb Henson of Virginia Tech at 149. I Have Henson at 149 as well as do I yeah, we were kind of chalky here at 49. All right 157 I this is one of the ones that I'm the most confident in. Uh, Tyler Ksak over Meyer Shapiro. I think Ksak wins. And I think that's the most likely final out of any weight class. Yeah, I agree. I have no argument here. I would love to say Caleb fish finds his way out of water, but it just doesn't work. Yeah. Kind of getting boring here as we're getting to the middle weights.

Starting point is 00:31:02 No, no. Jacori teamer, no Jacori teamer can't bounce back. No, no, Ja'Cory teamer. No Ja'Cory teamer can't bounce back. No, I just see a guy that looks so tired. I just don't think there's enough physically left in the body. Okay. All right. 165. This is another one that's just it's obvious. If you think it's somebody else, Mitchell Messenbrink is my choice over Mikey Caliendo. I'm going to go with the same thing that we've seen

Starting point is 00:31:24 every step of the way between these two. I'm riding big 12. Peyton Hall is going to do the Dagon thing, baby. I got the same as you, Zach. Yeah, Caliendo just can't get over the hump against Mess and Brink. He's at a different level. It's Mess and Brink, Gap, Caliendo, Gap, and then maybe it's Peyton Hall that that disrupts everything so we'll go to 174 I got Levi Haynes getting revenge against Keegan O'Toole I think Haynes is able to get past Dean Hamadie and then ultimately defeats O'Toole in a close one See, I actually do got a rock with my Cowboys on this one I think Dean Hamadie jr. Has that little bit of that magic man capability. He's been too reluctant in his last couple matches.

Starting point is 00:32:06 I expect him to shed all that, be aggressive, and make something crazy happen here. No tools gonna be there. I'll just watch the semi-final. You guys can pick it. 184, we already gave our predictions there, more or less. So everybody else says Parker Kekkeisen over Starachi. So I will take Starachi over Kekkeisen and go and go back the other way 197

Starting point is 00:32:28 We didn't really get too much analysis on this episode because you know time constraints and everything but AJ Ferrari is an interesting choice here I think Josh Barr with the leg injury. He's not as strong of a candidate Jacob Cardenas has been my pick all along the way. I will take Cardenas over AJ Ferrari here. I don't think Buchanan makes the final You took the words actually I do have Buchanan making the final but Anybody who takes down AJ Ferrari all of the the ladies on campus and still in Oklahoma would be appreciative of And can we please get that second round matchup with Ferrari against Zach Glaser? Of course, last year, at Iowa City at the Soldier Salute, it was the double fingers in the air as the Iowa fan base was booing Ferrari when they thought he was going to

Starting point is 00:33:13 be a member of the Hawkeyes. That could be a second round matchup. Yeah, sign me up for that. That guy can go, nevermind. I'm not even going to say it. Got to keep it clean here. And we all agreed that Gable Stevenson, nobody's going to defeat him.

Starting point is 00:33:27 So that's gonna do it for this. But he will wrestle Wyatt, okay? Okay, I guess that's the bold one. I say, Trent, do you think it's Wyatt or Greg? I'm going Kirk Levitt. Okay. Sorry, sorry, Cody. It's fine, it's all right.

Starting point is 00:33:42 It's all right. I am excited for this to get you ready for this race. I think that's good because it builds a bigger storyline for the duel next year. That's going to do it for this Locked On crossover to get you ready for this NCAA wrestling tournament that's all over the course of Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. Subscribe to our YouTube channels and wherever you get your podcasts for Locked On Nittany Lions, Locked On Oklahoma State, and Locked On Hawkeyes to keep up to date with all of the respective wrestling programs. Let us know your thoughts and predictions down in the comments section. Thank you so much for checking out this crossover episode here on the Lockdown Podcast Network.

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