Locked On Hawkeyes - Daily Podcast On Iowa Hawkeyes Football & Basketball - Iowa women earn #1 Seed, Hawkeye men to NIT

Starting point is 00:00:00 Instant reaction after the Iowa women earn a number one seed in the NCAA tournament, and they got a difficult draw in this one. Plus, the Iowa men qualify for the NIT. What's the path for the Hawkeyes as they try to make their way back to another NIT Final Four? That's all today. Locked on, Hawkeyes. You are locked on, Hawkeyes. Your daily podcast on the Iowa Hawkeyes. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Hey, welcome in.

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Starting point is 00:01:08 Post your job for free at linkedin.com slash lockedoncollege. Terms and conditions apply. Well, we got a lot of basketball here today to get into. We open it up on the women's side of things as the Iowa women have qualified for the NCAA tournament with it with the number one seed for just the second time in program history have to go back 32 years the last time that Iowa was the top of the bracket back in a very different era for women's basketball we will get into that and the bracket that is in front of them good news bad news certainly on that front plus

Starting point is 00:01:42 we'll talk on the Iowa men as they make their way to the NIT. Get a home game. That'll be happening on Tuesday night. And we'll talk a little bit about the parameters and what's going to happen going forward there. But let's open up with the big story. That is the Iowa women as the number one seed. Not a big surprise after winning the Big Ten championship a weekend ago

Starting point is 00:02:00 with the overtime victory against Nebraska and punching their ticket back in as the automatic qualifier for the third consecutive year from the Big Ten. We knew the path was going to be difficult. We knew that it was not going to be easy to get back to another Final Four to do it for just the third time in program history. It was going to be certainly more difficult, maybe even than it was a season ago.

Starting point is 00:02:22 When the bracket opened up, we had Ole Miss beating Stanford. I had to take on Colorado with six seed instead of third seed to Duke in the sweet 16 even the elite eight game we had Louisville there as opposed to a team like Stanford in that elite eight but hey you want to win a national championship it's going to be difficult and you know I've noticed a lot of hand-wringing about just how deep the bracket as a whole is here's the good news especially when you're talking about the elite eight and just how deep the bracket as a whole is here's the good news especially when you're talking about the elite eight and just how stacked up the bottom of the bracket is with of course lsu the defending national champion as the number three seed and ucla as the number two seed who was

Starting point is 00:02:56 a number one seed for a lot of people throughout their projections throughout a big portion of this season here's the great news well you only have to play one of those teams. If you get to the Elite Eight, you're going to play somebody good, and you're going to have to only play one of them. And upsets still can happen. That is still something that absolutely still can be out there, as we certainly learned a season ago. But let's open things up at the top, and they will await the winner of the play-in round.

Starting point is 00:03:22 Play-in is not the correct terminology. The first four, as they have 68 teams also in the women-in round. Play-in is not the correct terminology. The first four, as they have 68 teams also in the women's bracket now. That opened up a couple of years back. So it'll be the winner of Holy Cross and UT Martin. That will be the first round matchup for Iowa. That will be a Saturday game. The Hawkeyes will open things up.

Starting point is 00:03:39 No surprise, there will be big national TV for that one. That will be a two o'clock game on ABC. That's right. National TV, even for a number one against the 16. And that just shows you, obviously, the power of Caitlin Clark and this Iowa women's basketball team and the way that they continue to sway power. The first game on ABC that day will be UConn. We know about their, obviously, following and the way that not only do they fill up

Starting point is 00:04:04 their building for every single game but also what they do traveling and most importantly for these purposes on the television that'll be the 2 o'clock game then after that for Iowa as they await the winner of the matchup between Holy Cross and UT Martin then it gets a little more

Starting point is 00:04:20 juicy you get the prime time matchup on Monday night and they will await the winner with the win against holy cross or ut martin of west virginia and princeton now west virginia comes from the big 12 has some nice victories this season haven't been a great team uh overall this season been very solid though in fact many people think that they were maybe a little bit underseated for these purposes. They were a team that could have been a tick higher. I've seen plenty of that talk about them.

Starting point is 00:04:51 And then Princeton, who comes from the Ivy League. A Princeton program that here recently has pulled off big upsets in the NCAA tournament. They've done some really good things in the past. Going back to Carly Littlefield, the former Waukee point guard who played there for four years, then went on and played her final season in North Carolina as Princeton does not allow their players to have that grad year

Starting point is 00:05:13 there, so that's a difference in the Ivy League. They got an outstanding point guard, though. A really good point guard that throughout the last couple of years has been outstanding. One of the best point guards in all of America. So that's what they have. And that's kind of, where do you start with that one? I think it's going to be a really compelling game.

Starting point is 00:05:28 Princeton does play very much a slowdown type of style of basketball. They're going to want to play at a different pace. That one you see from West Virginia, a team that is more willing to get up and down the floor and do things a little bit different. So that's what you're going to get there. West Virginia on the season, they finished tied for fourth place with a 12-6 record in the Big 12. In fact, they finished ahead of Iowa State

Starting point is 00:05:51 in the Big 12 this season. We know what a good year they had in making that run to the championship game. 6-4 on the road this year. 4-1 record on neutral floor. So pretty good on that front. 4-7 against Quad 1. 7-0 against Quad 2. Some of their best victories of the season in the non-conference. Not a ton there. They beat Penn State by 18. Team, obviously, Iowa got to know really

Starting point is 00:06:14 well. They did most of their damage in Big 12 play. They won at Kansas State. Nice road victory for them in that one. Won at UCF and at Cincinnati. Neither of those teams very good. Still won those games. Beat Iowa State, the aforementioned Cyclones. Won at UCF and at Cincinnati. Neither of those teams very good. Still won those games. Beat Iowa State, the aforementioned Cyclones.

Starting point is 00:06:29 Won a game at BYU. So they beat some of the bottom teams on the road, which you need to do. Beat TCU on the road as well. Before the end of the season, they lost three of their last four games. Lost in overtime to Kansas State. Lost to Baylor by a point.

Starting point is 00:06:42 Lost by seven against Oklahoma State before winning one game in the Big 12 tournament and then Kansas State. Lost to Baylor by a point. Lost by seven against Oklahoma State before winning one game in the Big 12 tournament. And then Kansas State. So as we get deeper into this, obviously we'll break things down after Iowa. They're going to win that first round game against whoever they face. They'll cruise in that one. We'll take a little deeper look once we find out who does win that first four game in the first round and dive in a little bit deeper on that front.

Starting point is 00:07:06 The big question, though, and the big talk has been about the rest of the bracket and the way the rest of this bracket looks and the way that it's certainly set up for Iowa. So in the Sweet 16, first, that's a big part of this. If they win those first two games, move on to the Sweet 16,

Starting point is 00:07:20 who's going to be sitting there? Who's going to be awaiting them? And really, when you go through and you look at these matchups and the way that it's set up, you get just a whole lot of teams that they've seen before, which is odd because Kansas State is a team that they've seen twice. First of all, to play a non-conference team twice in a season is weird. You don't have that happen very often and you just don't see that very much. They're the number four seed in the projected team, at least according to seeding, that is going to get there.

Starting point is 00:07:50 The other game, the 5-12 matchup, is Colorado, a team that Iowa saw last year in the Sweet 16, returned a lot of talent. They were in the running for a top two seed for a long portion of the season. Wheels kind of fell off for them as the season went on. Or Drake and the Bulldogs, of course. We know how good they were.

Starting point is 00:08:05 The buzzer beater to punch their ticket to the NCAA tournament as a number 12 seed. You don't wonder if Drake would have lost that game against most state. If they still would have got into the NCAA tournament, maybe they would have been one of the teams playing in the first four. But regardless, they get their ticket punch and they sit there as a number 12 seed. A year ago, they played really well against Louisville, had Louisville on their own team that made it all the way to the lead eight, so potentially could be there.

Starting point is 00:08:31 That will be played, though, in Manhattan, as Kansas State, the fourth seed, will be able to host in the first two rounds. Then the bottom half of the bracket, it's more that similar teams, teams that you know. Louisville, the team you played in the lead eight. LSU, the team you played in the national championship. Creighton, the team that you lost to two years ago in the round of 32. And then the number two seed is UCLA with, well, a big center that Iowa was very involved with

Starting point is 00:08:54 or at least tried to get involved with when they were shopping in the portal back in the spring. That's what it sets up. We know the importance of staying away from South Carolina. That happened. We're going to dig a little bit more deep into this and talk a little bit about the Hawkeye men. Iowa is on to the NIT. What does a run mean for Iowa men's basketball? If they can make a run, what does that mean? It's a big picture stuff as well for the women's team. It's a bracket breakdown, instant reaction. The brackets are in. What a great time. Get those pencils out. Put it in pen.

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Starting point is 00:11:58 That's Amazon.com slash LockedOnFireTV. Try and count it back with you once again here on the Lockdown Hawkeyes podcast. As always, thanks for making Lockdown Hawkeyes your first listen every day. Let's jump into the men a little bit. We got more thoughts on the women's basketball team, and we will get into that here in a little bit. But to the men and the NIT bracket that is in front of them, look, overall, it's fine, right? It's fine.

Starting point is 00:12:30 This is a team that had made five consecutive NCAA tournaments or would have with 2020. They would have been a projected sixth seed in that NCAA tournament and then were safely in the bracket that season. It's something that hasn't been done since Lute Olsen was a coach at Iowa in the late 70s into the early that season. It's something that hasn't been done since Lute Olsen was a coach at Iowa in the late 70s into the early 80s. It's something that this program just had not seen in a very long time.

Starting point is 00:12:50 But the lack of success come March, and the way this one ended. First, you look at the matchup in the regular season finale against Illinois. You get blown out in the first 10 minutes of the game. You get some good shots. You're not able to knock them down either. Run out of the gym. You come back. Brock Hard you get some good shots. You're not able to knock them down either. Run out of the gym.

Starting point is 00:13:06 You come back. Brock Harding had a good half. You come back. You get it within four and just never could get over that hump because of the big deficit that you faced. You go to the Big Ten tournament still with hope. And against Ohio State, that hope was extinguished early again. Just, again, couldn't get over the hump.

Starting point is 00:13:25 Couldn't get stops defensively. It was more of the same. And on an island, that's not a big deal. Look, this was a team that was going through rebuilding, a four-player incoming freshman class, something you don't see a whole lot in college basketball as a whole, and four guys that saw varying degrees of playing time throughout the course of the season.

Starting point is 00:13:44 You've got a star in Owen Freeman, a guy that is a great building block for the future of this program. We saw Ascension out of Josh Dix this year and becoming the player that I think we all think he can eventually be, which is a really good one in the Big Ten. Obviously Peyton Sanford, what he was able to do, and though the end of the season didn't go very well for Tony Perkins, you're still left at this point thinking, all right, things are looking okay. And then he lose to Ohio State after the loss to Illinois. And the old wounds are opened up again, right? The old talking points about Fran and March and the struggles and the one and dones, not

Starting point is 00:14:20 just in the NCAA tournament, not getting to the Sweet 16, but even in the Big Ten tournament. You know, that run that they made winning the championship a couple of years back with Keegan and company, in a way, I think matched just how terrible Fran McCaffrey's teams have been in the Big Ten tournament. Not just losing to Ohio State in a game where you're a slight underdog in that game against the Buckeyes. That's one thing, but when you look at it in its totality, it's hideous. I mean, there's losses to worst seeded teams in a nearly yearly basis

Starting point is 00:14:52 for this Iowa basketball program. It hasn't gone well, and that all comes back. We open up those wounds again, and we go down that path. And those teams entertaining, at least to watch offensively. They can put up points. They play an entertaining style of basketball. The fan base is checked out. And we can talk about what the women's program has done and their ascension what has led to this moment there's only so much you know income that people have that they're willing to pay on basketball there's more things to do we can make all the

Starting point is 00:15:19 excuses or reasons what depending on what your point is But what we do know is this fan base is out, and they're very frustrated about the way that this has gone, and they should be. Look, I'm not happy with the state of this Iowa basketball program. I'm not happy that they missed the tournament for the first time in five years. It doesn't excite me. But to go deeper and think that Frank McCaffrey's a bad coach, he's not. That Iowa's next coach is going to be better

Starting point is 00:15:47 than Frank McCaffrey, it's no sure thing. You don't want to be scared to make a move. You don't want to be scared to try to elevate your program. I understand you want to get to a next level. We tried it before. It didn't work. We tried it from Dr. Tom. And we did it for many of the same reasons that we're talking about here and people remember obviously what happened in his final season of beating arkansas on the round of 32 and getting the sweet 16 down in phoenix and play yukon as

Starting point is 00:16:18 well as anybody did till the national championship game where they beat du. Iowa played well in that game. I had a great season. But one game didn't erase the decade previous where Dr. Tom wasn't able to get it to the second weekend. It's difficult. In a program like Iowa where the investment is about football, the investment is women's basketball, the investment is wrestling, in a way, men's basketball is shortchanged. And until that changes, I don't know how much more is going to change.

Starting point is 00:16:51 Look, you can change a coach, but if you don't have the money to go along with it in today's environment, not a whole lot is going to change. Is Darren DeVries going to be a guy that's going to excite the fan base and all of a sudden they're going to sell 11,000, 12,000 tickets next year? year no there's all kinds of goofy rumors out there that fresno state was

Starting point is 00:17:10 was uh excited about him and then this twitter account that it was doing it and locked up their account i mean just weird and coaching carousel rumors and that's all it was we're happy to pass along rumors when they have at least maybe some kind of validity or we'll just tell you they're crazy rumors like we talked about with the patrick Patrick McCaffrey thing and that's all it is we're happy to do that because we're just talking here we're just having a good time we're not going to throw out rumors that could be hurtful I don't think that Patrick looking around for one more destination is a hurtful hurtful statement by any means but that aside we're here to talk about the here and now. So we go into this

Starting point is 00:17:47 NIT game to get Kansas State. A Kansas State team that's been inconsistent. One of the highest rates of turnovers in the country. You can get them playing fast. You can make them play ugly. We've seen that throughout the course. You get the number three seed, and that also shows you how far out of the bracket Iowa actually was. You get the number three seed, and that also shows you how far out of the bracket Iowa actually was. You know, with all the bid thieves that we saw throughout the course of this weekend, all the big upsets that happened, teams coming out of nowhere to win conference tournaments, Dayton still in the A-10, and Duquesne goes on and wins the conference tournament and what gets

Starting point is 00:18:20 in the tournament for the first time since 1977, and they weren't alone. I mean, there was a ton of that happening throughout the course of the weekend. Even if Iowa would have went to the Big Ten tournament, beat Ohio State, beat Illinois, I don't think it would have been enough. I mean, they probably had to get to the championship just to maybe get a chance to go to Dayton, which going into the week last week,

Starting point is 00:18:41 it felt crazy. Yet that's what the way that this played out. We kind of talked about this a bunch. It's not in a vacuum. It's not just about Iowa, right? It's about everybody else. So Iowa, as mentioned, gets Kansas State. Get a home game.

Starting point is 00:18:59 What's the attendance going to be for that? I mean, are we talking about another half full Carver-Hawkeye? Now talking to people that have been in some of the past NIT games for the men's side, it's been some of the best environments, at least for men's basketball, in Carver Hawkeye. Although they haven't always been sellouts, it's been people that want to be there. People that are happy to stand and cheer. People that want to be loud. People that maybe for one of the few times actually get good tickets close to the court

Starting point is 00:19:24 and just create a good environment. But can you have a good environment with 7,500 people in a building that seats 15,000 it's going to be tough and then not only that if Iowa does win if there's an upset on the other side of the bracket if we have that and an upset happens and all of a sudden Iowa has another opportunity to host if UC Irvine gets by Utah can they? Nobody's had a definitive answer on that one. If they'd be able to play a game which they'd have to put you would think on Sunday but with the NCAA taking over for the women's tournament probably not. Do they just give the game to UC

Starting point is 00:20:03 Irvine? Does Iowa give the game to UC Irvine? Does Iowa have the ability to host it in the Quad Cities or in Des Moines, go that route, even see the Rapids? Have we got anything definitive? We wait and see on that front. A run in the NIT can be exciting. I was done a couple of times. You go back, we mentioned that game

Starting point is 00:20:24 in the mark that they played back in the mid-90seties and they made that run and lost in the quarterfinals to Penn State. That was fun. That was just a couple of victories, but the momentum started to build. Fran early in the tenure, making the run all the way to the championship and getting to Madison Square Garden. Now no MSG in the NIT now. They moved it around. It was Vegas last year. This year, the final four of the NIT will be played at Hinkle Fieldhouse in Indianapolis. So different thing to shoot for, but still cool venue, old school, nothing wrong with that. Iowa K-State, eight o'clock tip off. Get there if you can, Tuesday night. If Utah wins, they'll be traveling out to Utah, play them over the weekend.

Starting point is 00:21:03 And then a top half of the bracket, Villanova is the number one seed. The number four seed is Central Florida. UCF will play host to South Florida, who won the regular season in the American Athletic Conference. So those are the teams there. Villanova, by the way, gets VCU on the top half. On that side of the bracket as well, Indiana State is the number one seed. On that side of the bracket as well, Indiana State is the number one seed. However, their coach perhaps is going to be the Billiken head coach by the time you hear this down in St. Louis. Cincinnati the two, Bradley the three, and Butler is the number four.

Starting point is 00:21:34 That's their side of the bracket in the NIT. To make the exciting, the NIT, excuse me, exciting though, you've got to win games. If you're one and done, you win a game, lose a game. That's not the way to create momentum. Does Fran do anything different here? Playing time? Or is he going to ride with the old guys?

Starting point is 00:21:52 Going to ride with Kricke, who really struggled in the back half of the year. Patrick McCaffrey, we've talked about his inconsistency. Or is he going to go a different route? We will see. Talked about the bracket on both sides. Let's talk a little big picture stuff. When we come back, Caitlin Clark and the Iowa women. What a run can mean.

Starting point is 00:22:11 What these final one, two, up to six games can mean for Iowa women's basketball. We'll do that as we continue. This is Locked on Hawkeyes. Today's episode is brought to you by LinkedIn Jobs. When you're hiring for your small business, you want to find quality professionals that are right for the role.

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Starting point is 00:23:43 Trent Conant back with you one final time here on the Lockdown Hawkeyes podcast thanks for making Lockdown Hawkeyes your first listen every day big picture stuff for the Iowa women and we will break down the games the potentials that they're going to see a little bit more throughout the course of this week as we count down to tip off but the opportunity that's in front of them. Yes, the path is going to be difficult. It's likely going to be more difficult than it was the season ago, at least to get to the final four. Great news. You're on the other side of the bracket

Starting point is 00:24:13 from South Carolina. You're going to get advantageous television windows. They're going to want to put Caitlin Clark and company in the best windows possible. But this is an opportunity here to really build the brand and build a brand for Iowa women's basketball, which has been a very successful program throughout basically 40 years. And going back to see Vivian Stringer and what she built in the 80s and into the early 90s

Starting point is 00:24:41 and making the Final Four then, having a number one seed then, though upset by Southwest Missouri State. There was a lot of great things. And Angie Lee, early on, had some success. It fell apart. Bluter comes in. And here we are 24 years later.

Starting point is 00:24:55 Always a program that was consistent, solid, good offensively, not great on the defensive end of the floor, but entertaining brand to watch. Good teams could win a game, maybe two, in the NCAA tournament. Remember, many of the same knocks that were against Fran McCaffrey were the same ones that we heard about Lisa Bluter. But that aside. Excuse me.

Starting point is 00:25:18 And here we are now with a chance to really cement this program not as a blue blood.'re not there yet there's a long ways to go to be not just at the level of Tennessee and UConn and even programs like Notre Dame that have been so successful and done it through a couple of different coaches South Carolina what Don Staley has built recently but get on cusp. And be not just a team that is good enough to be Sweet 16. Not be a perennial top 25 program. But take it a step further. I need players.

Starting point is 00:25:54 And as we talked about last week with Deal coming in, that's step number one. I need you to see more of that. Her and Journey Houston from Davenport North, those two coming in in next year's class, the class of 2025. That's exciting. Ava Hyden coming in this year, big post player that could really help out inside

Starting point is 00:26:14 and maybe take away some of the deficiencies that we've seen from them in the middle this year. But it's all in front of them. And when you have Superwoman on your team, when you have Kaitlyn Clark, things aren't impossible. Going into the game against South Carolina a year ago, myself and many other pundits

Starting point is 00:26:33 thought it was impossible to beat the Gamecocks. Coach Fitz came up with a great game plan, even in her quote-unquote retired state, and put it together, and they were right there. And ultimately, they win that game against a team that many people believed was unbeatable. Iowa did that. They did it behind a 40-point performance from Kaitlyn Clark.

Starting point is 00:26:57 She can do special things. It's going to be tough. Everybody's gunning. We heard the West Virginia coach say right away, we're going to end Kaitlin Clark's career. Let's go do that. Win a game and then end Kaitlin's career is what he said. There's going to be a lot of that.

Starting point is 00:27:12 The target is on their back. I believe more than South Carolina. More than UConn. LSU, the defending champion. It is number one on Iowa's back. But what a run can mean for this program, big picture, I don't know if it can be measured. The opportunity's there.

Starting point is 00:27:31 Let's have some fun. Let's win six. What do you say about that? Thanks for making Lockdown Hawkeyes your first listen every day. We are with you each and every day throughout the course of the week, talking Hawkeyes with you. Spring practice is starting up. We'll have some insight from what happened at the Pro Day earlier on Monday.

Starting point is 00:27:49 We will talk about that on tomorrow's podcast, break things down there, and get you ready for Iowa-Kansas State in the opening round of the NIT on the men's side. Thanks for being with us each and every day. Thanks for making Lockdown Hawkeyes your first listen every day. We'll talk to you again tomorrow. Go Hawks!

Locked On Hawkeyes - Daily Podcast On Iowa Hawkeyes Football & Basketball - Iowa women earn #1 Seed, Hawkeye men to NIT

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