Locked On Hawkeyes - Daily Podcast On Iowa Hawkeyes Football & Basketball - Is Kirk Ferentz Ready for a Change at Quarterback for the Hawkeyes?
Episode Date: October 23, 2024Join host Trent Condon on the Locked on Hawkeyes Podcast for an in-depth look at the latest developments surrounding Iowa Hawkeyes football. In today’s episode, Trent breaks down Kirk Ferentz’s pr...ess conference, where the conversation focused on the quarterback position and the potential shift from Cade McNamara to Brendan Sullivan as QB1. Trent delves into the nuances of Ferentz’s comments and explores why this year’s situation feels different from past seasons.Additionally, Trent welcomes Scott Dochterman from The Athletic to discuss the pressing issues facing the Hawkeyes after their third loss of the season to Michigan State, offering insights into the challenges ahead in Big Ten football. Finally, Trent analyzes the national statistical rankings for the Iowa football team, highlighting not only the struggles of the offense but also revealing concerning trends on the defensive side of the ball.Tune in for all this and more as we navigate the highs and lows of Hawkeye football!For your next listen, check out the Locked On College Football podcast! From NIL deals to never ending conference realignment rumors, Spencer McLaughlin gets you ready for an exciting season on the gridiron! Click HERE to listen now. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network. Your Team. Every Day.Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!ROYDownload Roy for iOS or Android and enter referral code LOCKED ON and you’ll automatically be entered into a sweepstakes to win $5,000 cash. Visit JoinRoy.com for additional details. No purchase necessary, void where prohibited. Get off the sidelines and into the NIL game with Roy.ZBiotics Pre AlcoholGo to zbiotics.com/LOCKEDONCOLLEGE to learn more and get 15% off your first order when you use LOCKEDONCOLLEGE at checkout. ZBiotics is backed with 100% money back guarantee so if you’re unsatisfied for any reason, they’ll refund your money, no questions asked.PrizePicksDownload the PrizePicks app today and use code LOCKEDONCOLLEGE and get $50 instantly when you play $5! You don't even need to win to receive the $50 bonus, it's guaranteed! Prizepicks. Run Your Game.https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/LOCKEDONCOLLEGELinkedInThese days every new potential hire can feel like a high stakes wager for your small business. That’s why LinkedIn Jobs helps find the right people for your team, faster and for free. Post your job for free at LinkedIn.com/LOCKEDONCOLLEGE. Terms and conditions apply.GametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONCOLLEGE for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Download Gametime today. What time is it? Gametime.FanDuelYou can start the season with a big return on FanDuel. Place your first FIVE DOLLAR bet and you’ll get started with TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS in BONUS BETS - guaranteed ! Visit FANDUEL.COM to get started.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN)
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Is a change finally happening at quarterback for the Iowa football team?
Kirk Ferentz with some interesting comments today
at the weekly Iowa football press conference.
We break it all down today.
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Well, the weekly press conference happened today.
Kirk Ferentz in front of the assembled media in Iowa City.
Iowa coming out of the heels of one of their worst losses in a long time.
And it's not the final score that is indicative of that.
Losing to a rebuilding Michigan State team.
Losing in the fashion that they did.
Offense a no-show in the first half.
Defense is poor as we've seen in a really long
time. It was overall a house of horrors up at East Lansing for Iowa over the weekend. And what
many people have been clamoring for, even before the season began, is a change in quarterback.
After the season a year ago from Cade McNamara, what we saw from him in the early going. It wasn't
good. We knew he was injured. He was playing through that quad injury that was much more substantial than many people
were led to believe early in the season.
He was absolutely damaged at that time before eventually tearing his ACL in the home game
a year ago against Michigan State.
But this has been a quarterback controversy that has been happening for a long time at
Iowa.
And the frustrations continue to bubble up and build up within the fan base. It's different than it was a year ago.
When your backup quarterback was Deacon Hill, a guy that because of injury, we saw out there
that wasn't good enough, did not have the talent to be playing at this level. He did not have the
ability to be a Big Ten quarterback.
You saw that.
And nice guy aside, Cade McNamara, I'm sure, is a great kid.
But come on.
We're talking about big boy football here.
This is Big Ten football.
And now this is Big Ten football that also comes with NIL.
Pay for play.
This is a new reality.
And with it, the pressure ramps up.
That's the reality. And we talk
about reality here on Lockdown Hawkeyes. That's what we like to live in. Not the fantasy world
that some people try to paint. No, let's live in the real world. And the real world is that
Cade McNamara has not been good enough for this Iowa football team. This is a year that came in
with big time expectations. Expectations. This is going to be Iowa's best chance to be a college football playoff path for the foreseeable future.
A schedule that sets up incredibly well,
coupled with a team that returned 19 starters from a year ago.
And they're 4-3.
And they're 4-3 for a myriad of different reasons.
The defense has been a huge disappointment.
The kicking game has not been what it's been in the past.
We see again another missed kick from Drew Stevens. has been a huge disappointment. The kicking game has not been what it's been in the past.
We see again another missed kick from Drew Stevens.
The putting game doesn't have an all-world punter in Torrey Taylor, and on and on and on.
But eventually it comes back to the most important position
in all of sport.
How many times do we have to say it?
And we all know it's true.
Yes, they're the one that gets the notoriety.
Sometimes they get too much credit
when things are going well.
But when things are going poorly, a lot of the fingers go there.
Normally, we've heard Kirk Ferentz.
And as I've said before, every dayers, you know the term,
Kirk Ferentz's brain is broken by quarterback change.
It just is.
We have seen too many years now of his inability to make a change
when everybody else can see that a change
needs to happen. Well, his comments today paint a different type of picture, certainly different
than we saw a year ago with the early struggles of Cade McNamara, going back in the Spencer Petras
era, him and Alex Padilla, different than even Jake Rudak, CJ Beathard, or Jake Christensen,
Ricky Stanzi. These are different
types of comments that are coming from Kirk Ferentz and gives me the belief that a change
is very close to happening. Now, we also have to realize that Brandon Sullivan, the backup
quarterback coming in for Northwestern, though he had a couple of good games at Northwestern,
they weren't all rosy. There were also some duds in there too and Brendan Sullivan was the easy
answer he would be the quarterback if there was not the gap that there appears to be we would
have seen him already but that's not the case what you do get with Brendan Sullivan though is a guy
that can move that has athletic ability and there's a reason that they continue to install him as that
quarterback inside the 10-yard line and now
possibly even in short yardage situations because he can move and Cade McNamara at this point in his
career can't yeah he can move but we're talking about a guy closer to the statuesque quarterback
as opposed to a tuck and runner that's what you're going to get with Brandon Sullivan
and even if Cade McNamara is more consistent
throwing the football,
and I believe from everything that I've heard,
that is the case,
he's not great at it.
This is not the guy we saw at Michigan.
This is not the guy that he was before the injuries.
And because of all that,
the leash has to be short.
And it feels like reading between the lines.
So that's another thing you have to do with Kirk Ferentz.
He's not going to come out and say things.
He's not going to throw guys under the bus.
That's not what he does.
That's not how this program is built.
That's not going to happen.
But the question comes out about this.
First, he said this.
I think they're both doing a good job at practice. That's
important. It shouldn't be, I know in many people's eyes, but it's important to Kirk Barron.
So when he says that both guys are practicing well, take it at the surface level and run with
that. We go back to some of those quarterback controversies that we've talked about in the past,
and that's something that he didn't always say.
Now, the former offensive coordinator,
what's the upside, right?
What it was between Spencer Petras and Alex Padilla.
What's the upside?
The upside here is a quarterback that can move,
a quarterback that maybe can make the makeables. And that's been the biggest issue with Cade McNamara.
Is the makeable plays that have been there,
he's been missing.
He's not a good enough quarterback to afford that.
He can't make enough plays down the field to be missing on the throws that are there.
0-5 and third down in the first half.
I think it was close to happening against Michigan State.
And if that first drive of the second half didn't go the way that it did,
I think we'd be having a different conversation today.
Alas, here we are once again.
I believe that the leash is short. And reading through these comments or reading what Kirk
Ferentz had to say today, I think this says a whole lot. What he says that Kate has to play
better. Certainly the first half in particular. Really nothing on offense was good enough for us
to be. We dug a hole that was too deep, quite frankly, and everybody had a hand in particular. Really nothing on offense was good enough for us to be.
We dug a hole that was too deep, quite frankly, and everybody had a hand in it. But the offense
certainly has a responsibility. That's as close to Kirk Ferentz throwing somebody under the bus
as you're going to find, because it's not what he does. We're not talking Steve Alford here,
right? We're talking about Kirk Ferentz, the two guys that could be polar opposites of the way that they run programs.
We knew Steve Alford.
It was never his fault.
It was always the players throwing him under the bus.
And at times it went too far.
That's not Kirk Ferentz.
Because Kirk Ferentz is a good person
as opposed to the guy I just mentioned.
Kirk Ferentz is.
Even with a broken brain as it pertains to quarterbacks.
But he sees what we all see.
And we know what's going to happen Saturday afternoon.
If Cade McNamara struggles, the Boo Birds are going to be intense.
You thought it was bad after that three and out to begin the Washington game?
Look out.
They go three and out against Northwestern in the first drive.
It is going to be loud inside Kinnick Stadium.
And it's not going to be cheering.
And it's not trying to lift up Cade McNamara.
It is going to be anger.
You will hear it.
It will be there.
And it will be substantial.
This is a fan base on edge.
There's a fan base that understands the opportunity lost with this season
and the future of this program and how concerning it is.
As we talked about in yesterday's show, the future of Iowa football,
there's some scary things.
What I do believe is a change is as close as it's been in a long time.
And if Cade McNamara does not play well, they got some big problems.
Scott Dockerman from The Athletic covers the Iowa Hawkeyes and the Big Ten.
We'll talk a little Big Ten football with Doc and of course get into Iowa.
What's going wrong in his mind?
We'll get the conversation with Scott Dockerman from the Athletic.
Always enjoy that one.
Plus, we've got a little more coming up for you today.
An updated look at the Iowa football stats.
Well, we know the offense isn't great.
The numbers are even more concerning, I believe, on the defensive side of the football.
We'll do that as we continue.
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A Dockerman joins us.
He had a busy big 10 weekend started watching Oregon dismantle Purdue,
then took on another.
But you know, Doc, come to think of it, you saw a couple of stinkers
at the end of the day and then got home and watched Iowa
as they stunk up the joint at East Lansing.
How are you, Scott Dockerman?
I'm good.
You know what?
I saw two games that were a combined score of 91-7,
and there were no field goals.
Jeez.
I guess that was a little bit different than the game in East Lansing.
So, yeah, it was two different games that I was at, no question.
I mean, the atmospheres were great in both spots.
Oregon kind of went through the motions, I thought, comfortably,
whereas I thought Indiana really had a statement win.
No, by the sounds of things.
So was it more this Nebraska just not ready for just going back to Nebraska
like they've been over the last better part of almost a decade now?
Or, I mean, is Indiana truly this good, Doc?
Indiana is truly that good.
I mean, I know people are looking at their schedule and looking at them and saying,
oh, they haven't played anybody.
They're this.
Oh, Nebraska's not that good.
They are that good.
And now Curtis Work is out for an undetermined amount of time after ripping the thumbnail off of his thumb.
And I don't know if, you know, must have done something more to it because he's definitely out this week.
But they are legitimate.
The passes, the execution in the passing game,
the crispness in which they attacked.
I mean, you know, Nebraska made a lot of mistakes on defense.
Special teams.
Yeah.
But overrunning lanes, allowing running backs to cut back
and do some good things there.
But the passing game is crisp and efficient and well put together,
and the defense plays really well.
I mean, they may not have a superstar,
but they have a lot of really good players, and they play it really well.
So I think Indiana is terrific.
I mean, they are clearly in the top four in the Big Ten,
and they're not number four for me.
That's interesting.
No doubt.
Now, the likelihood that this is going to happen is incredibly, incredibly small.
But there is a path where Penn State, Oregon, and Indiana are undefeated,
and one doesn't get to go to the championship game.
We've talked about tiebreakers in the past and four teams five teams tied at 72
for that second spot that's going to be a mess this is a mess though of epic proportions if we
get that oh sure i mean you know but it's it's too way too early to determine tiebreakers just
because we don't know it goes down kind of the list on which team is number four
and how does that pan out as to who plays who and what.
We don't know who's going to rise and who's going to fall.
I guess right now I would look at they all are good.
I think there's four, maybe five teams that are competitive for the playoffs.
I think Illinois should be in that category as well.
But right now, yeah, all three could win out.
But I would caution any of you who bet on that from happening,
unless you lay a dollar and you get back $100,000.
I think Ohio State's going to pick off at least one of those teams.
Yeah, seemingly so.
Well, Doc, let's get to Iowa again.
You weren't there.
You watched it like we did on television.
I think for – I don't want to put words in Trent's mouth.
We knew Cade McNamara had been struggling all year,
so we're kind of used to that.
But the five-alarm fire, at least after this past Saturday night,
was the defense and the missed tackles.
And one side of the field, you know,'s a side of the field or nestor when
he's in there for hall it's that second cornerback we haven't seen a phil parker defense play as
poorly collectively uh as they did on saturday night in a long long time doc uh true there they
had a lot of missed tackles uh i thought that some of their weaknesses have been exposed.
I've been banging this drum for a long time that I just don't see enough out of the edge.
And they just aren't, you know, in a combination of getting, you know,
blocked down on and which allowed a lot of runs, but also just, you know,
not enough pass rush from the edge.
But also the second cornerback has not been great.
Now, I'll say this, Nick Marsh is fantastic.
He really is.
He's like Keon Coleman was a few years ago before he transferred to Florida State.
But that said, you've got to do a better job, and whether it's Hall,
I mean, it was kind of like what it was on that position like in 2017
where they were going through Manny Rugamba and Michael Ojemudia
and then ended up with Matt Hankins.
So, I mean, they still had some pretty good players there.
It's just I think they're still young and inexperienced
and struggling with how to play that position.
But the defense, the way they did not stop the run,
that was the biggest surprise for me.
That was a whole-scale breakdown of which I haven't seen for a while from Iowa
since maybe Penn State in 16 when they gave up almost 600 yards there.
But I didn't see Saquon Barkley out there either.
So, you know, I think this is a wake-up moment for this team.
You know, we said it a few weeks ago with Ohio State, but I think this is more truly a wake-up moment for this team. You know, we said it a few weeks ago with Ohio State,
but I think this is more truly a wake-up
because you can kind of rationalize Ohio State by saying,
well, they're just better than everybody else
and they're going to beat everybody like that and move on.
But with Michigan State, this is a team that's really in flux.
You know, it's a lot of change in East Lansing, a lot of talent.
I thought Aiden Childs played not even close, his best game ever.
But Iowa now has a lot of reflection to do from the number of missed tackles
to being blown off the ball out of position.
I thought some of the safeties played really well, though.
I get overshadowed, but Xavier Wampa played.
If the Washington game was his best game, this was number two,
and it might be flipped.
And I thought Brent Schulte was pretty decent too, but overall, not a very consistent effort for that defense.
And I'm sure that's one that the film session was probably, I'm sure the pain has come off
the wall.
Doc, talking to you throughout the years, listening to you on other podcasts that you
do, I know you get annoyed at times with the Iowa fan base, just the wild fluctuations that are there. We're back to,
all right, Kirk needs to go completely tear this thing down and not seeing the big picture.
After a performance like Saturday night, sometimes it is hard to see the big picture just getting
run off the field by a pretty average Michigan State team. But I know you like to bring up that
Iowa, boy, they're in a spot
that a lot of college programs certainly would be able to trade to, but we're also talking
about a coach that's 69.
As you look forward with this program, what's still to come?
A different roster that is going to be completely rebuilt, need to be completely rebuilt for
next season, a much more difficult schedule.
What do you see as you look into your crystal ball here the next couple of years?
difficult schedule. What do you see as you look into your crystal ball here the next couple of years? Next year, it looks like rebuilding here, but I'd also caution people who get too crazy
there because you look at what I saw in person in Indiana and what everybody saw against Michigan
State and how quickly it could be rebuilt, that it's not a three-year type window or anything.
And Iowa does get going in the portal.
Iowa doesn't ignore the portal.
Look at their top two quarterbacks and that sort of thing.
Well, you know, what I would say is that this one was the more disappointing loss that I've seen in a while.
Because last year, the losses were to teams that you know were better than you.
And this year, Iowa State was a coin flip game.
We do it, and it came down to that. And then Ohio State, you knew they were better than you, and year iowa state was a coin flip game we do it and it came down to that and then ohio state you knew they were better than you and they came down to it this was a game
where every single statistic said iowa is the better team this you know that they that michigan
state could not run the football that they were 90th in penalties their turnover margin was like
118th in the country all the areas where iowa excels michigan state fails in
so this should be like turn the ball over a couple of times you know get a penalty um and instead it
was just they dominated the line of scrimmage and so that was really i think that is um an eye
jarring moment for for iowa it doesn't mean that they're a bad program and i think you know the
wild overreactions are kind of uniquely to iowa's fan base that they aren't the same to everybody else. But I, overall,
I can understand the frustration and some of the issues are just seem to be over and over and over
again. And the reluctance to make any kind of changes is probably what frustrates people the
most. I, I think in the future, depending on what happens to the quarterback,
Iowa's still going to be okay. If Iowa decides, well, we're just going to stay with what we got
now, well, if what you got now isn't good enough now, how's it going to be better next year? So
I think that's a question I have, is if they decide, well, Brendan Sullivan's our guy next
year, well, he should be your guy now. Otherwise, go out to the portal and get somebody who's your guy.
Doc, you certainly know Kirk Ferentz being in all the press conferences,
et cetera, over the years and having one-on-one interviews,
a lot better than Trent and I.
Do you think at all the College Football Hall of Fame comes into his mind
when he's determining how much longer he wants to do this.
Because he should get to that 60% threshold this year.
But next year, if it does, you're going to lose all that talent.
And Higgins is playing it at an all-world level.
He's going to be gone.
There's going to be a whole bunch of guys that move on from this program.
Do you think that that pops into his mind ultimately
whenever the time comes for him to make that decision?
I don't know.
And he wouldn't ever say that.
I don't know if that's something that, and I don't know that he would tell anybody, not even his wife.
That's an issue for him because I'm sure he wants to be recognized and he deserves it.
Absolutely does, yes.
Absolutely does. Yes. you have the all-time wins record in Big Ten history, that would be an embarrassment to Hall of Fame. But for what I know of him and what he has said is he coaches because he absolutely loves it.
And he loves working with people.
He loves the game.
He loves every aspect of it.
And I know it's hard today, and I know nobody really wants to hear it.
Once you remove the emotion from it and you watch it,
Nobody really wants to hear it.
Once you remove the emotion from it and you watch it,
then in some ways it was a little bit like Troy in that what we saw was, on defense anyway,
was just it's correctable if they put their mind to it.
But overall, there's just, you know, and offensively,
I think they're improving.
It's just I thought it was quarterback that held them back the other day.
There were open receivers in the first half.
Cade McNamara missed them.
He missed a lot of open receivers that would have changed the dynamic of the game.
And that would have allowed Caleb Johnson to run freer
because they were just inching forward every single time at the snap.
So I don't think the game has passed him by like some people want to think.
And I've had these discussions even with people in my family.
But I understand and can share the frustration of what's transpired.
What would it take on Saturday for Cade McNamara to be pulled out of the game?
Because I don't think there's a shot in the world that we're going to see
Brennan Sullivan take the first snap of the football game.
What would it take for him to go out there and not be a red zone quarterback
to be the real quarterback for the Hawkeyes Saturday against the Wildcats?
For Cade to be left in Cedar Rapids.
Yeah.
I mean, I honestly, I mean, you know, of all these guys,
I would say that Deacon was the worst that I'd seen,
and he still stayed in there.
Joe Labus, you know, could not have been as bad,
and yet they would refuse to play him over the years.
And you just, you know, so you've asked me that question a lot,
you know, when Spencer struggled a lot in the past.
I just don't i just
don't see a scenario where kirk does that unless unless the coaches all collectively say we have
to do this and here's why but you know if he if he didn't pull him after the first half or going
three and nine you know he's not going to pull him now and he just that's got dr been from the
athletic and uh well that tells you a lot of the perspective and what we've seen at the quarterback He's not going to pull them now. That's Scott Dockerman from The Athletic.
And, well, that tells you a lot of the perspective
and what we've seen at the quarterback position
for Iowa football throughout the years.
We continue.
Let's take a look at the numbers, the stats for this Iowa football team.
As you know, the offensive numbers, not very good.
Defensively, though, some surprising numbers for this Iowa football team.
And I think an eye-opener for a lot of you out there.
We continue.
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Trent Conant back with you one final time here on the Locked On Hawkeyes podcast.
And as always, thanks for making Locked On Hawkeyes your first listen every day. Wrapping things up here with a look at the Iowa football statistical profile.
And offensively, it's rough.
Iowa currently 102nd in the country now that's a big improvement from
where it was a year ago averaging 346 yards per game more than 100 yards more than what they did
a season ago but we're not talking about a real high hurdle rush offense 17th in the country
though those numbers have dwindled down certainly the performance last week outside of the 75 yard
touchdown run in the fourth quarter from Caleb Johnson. Just not a whole lot of running room against Michigan State. Iowa, pass offense, 128th in the
country. Pass efficiency, that's got to be better. It is still 110th, brutal. Scoring offense, 74th,
but then we get to the defense, and this is where the major concern is because we've seen
Iowa be able to win football games with just hideous offenses in the past.
Well, the offense still isn't great by any means, but the defense is taking a major step back.
Overall, total defense, 43rd in the country in total defense, giving up 337 yards per game.
The rush defense, pretty good, 29th in the country.
How about this, though?
yards per game. The rush defense, pretty good, 29th in the country. How about this though? Iowa currently 83rd in the country in passing yards allowed per game at 225 per contest. How about
the pass efficiency? Normally you'll see Iowa from time to time. There's been some years where they
give up some yards through the air, but the pass efficiency is good because they're picking off
balls, they're making plays. Not the case this year. 81st in the country in pass efficiency defense.
Scoring defense, 32nd in the country.
That is brutal for the Iowa defense.
How about getting off the field?
Third down, conversion defense, 34th.
That's all right.
Red zone defense, 118th.
We've talked about this in the past.
This has been a huge area of concern for this Iowa football team.
It's ugly.
And if the defense is not playing at an elite level,
this has been a concern for a long time.
How Phil Parker, not getting five stars every year,
is he going to be able to maintain this high level of defense year in and year out?
He's done a great job.
And I still believe in Phil Parker that he hasn't forgot how to coach.
They haven't been able to figure out the second corner spot.
There's been disappointments along some of the veterans.
Deontay Craig has got to the quarterback on a two-point conversion.
That's it.
It's not been a great year.
I will take a look at the pre-FF numbers.
Pro football focus from the game against Michigan State.
They're not pretty for him.
And not found the replacements that they needed from Joe Evans and
Logan Lee on the defensive line from a year ago. It's been rough.
It's been a rough season. Quinn Schulte has struggled at times this season.
It does not look like you thought a six-year senior was going to look in the
back end of this defense. Offense, we know it's not pretty.
The defense isn't good.
Not playing at a high level, an elite level.
You get a 4-3 football team.
You are what your record says you are, right?
Old Bill Parcells line.
Iowa is a pretty average football team right now.
A lot of intrigue.
Mitchell will get those PFF numbers.
Biz is going to be able to join us this week, at least he says,
unless work gets in the way.
We'll have that for you.
Tom Caker will join us as well later on this week.
We got you covered.
Your team every day talking a lot of Iowa football,
basketball right around the corner.
We'll have plenty of that.
We got the nationally ranked soccer team.
I don't know how much we're going to touch on it,
but we did right there.
Congratulations to them.
Your team every day in basketball,
certainly going to be a big part of the
conversation. Iowa also over the weekend
had a secret scrimmage.
It wasn't very secret. We'll talk about that against
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