Locked On Hawkeyes - Daily Podcast On Iowa Hawkeyes Football & Basketball - Is the Iowa Football offensive growth for real?

Episode Date: October 4, 2022

LeShun Daniels and Trent Condon return for the latest edition of the Locked on Hawkeyes Podcast.More thoughts on what we saw from Iowa in the loss to Michigan. Including how much that we can take away from the positives. LeShun talks about the missed throws from Saturday and how the Hawkeye offense still can't get past those misses. \Some talk about what it is like on the sidelines when Kirk Ferentz is going after an official and the power of having a coach that you know has your back.Some look towards this week with Illinois and the season as a whole.Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!LinkedInLinkedIn jobs helps you find the candidates you want to talk to, faster. Post your job for free at Linkedin.com/lockedoncollege Terms and conditions apply.Built BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKEDON15,” and you’ll get 15% off your next order.BetOnlineBetOnline.net has you covered this season with more props, odds and lines than ever before. BetOnline – Where The Game Starts!UpsideDownload the FREE Upside App and use promo code Locked to get $5 or more cash back on your first purchase of $10 or more.Underdog FantasySign up on underdogfantasy.com with the promo code LOCKED ON and get your first deposit doubled up to $100!SimpliSafeWith Fast Protect™️ Technology, exclusively from SimpliSafe, 24/7 monitoring agents capture evidence to accurately verify a threat for faster police response. There’s No Safe Like SimpliSafe. Visit SimpliSafe.com/LockedOnCollege to learn more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Coming up on today's Locked On Hawkeyes podcast, Trent Condon, LaShawn Daniels breaking down the game against Michigan and a look forward, Illinois on deck, the Big Ten West, though it's a mess, it is an opportunity still there for this Hawkeye team. How much improvement do we take away from the game against Michigan offensively? We'll talk about that and a whole lot more coming up on today's Locked On Hawkeyes podcast. Our Locked On Hawkeyes, your daily podcast on the Iowa Hawkeyes.

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fast ProTech TM technology exclusively from SimpliSafe, 24-7 monitoring agents capture evidence to accurately verify a threat for faster police response. There's no place like simply safe visit simply safe.com slash lockdown college to learn more. Well, LaShawn, I was there on Saturday. It was a charged up crowd. It was an environment that was very good. Hawkeye fans tried to get into it once again, but ultimately, well, it was too much michigan let's uh kick things off and i'm just gonna leave it wide open to you takeaways from what you saw as michigan wins at 27 14 yeah yeah um you know for starters obviously michigan's fantastic football team

all right the defendant bit 10 uh champs uh made it to the playoffs last year and it looks like again this year they're gonna have another really really good team um they came into the game uh on saturday and really kind of dominated on both sides of the ball right um i think the most surprising thing to me was how good they were up front, right? Like on offense, Michigan, they were able to move the line of scrimmage, you know, a few yards deep every single play, right? Especially in the first half, even, you know, when we did get some stops in the red zone, get field goals. But I mean, they were able to sustain tries from running the ball quite a bit. field goals, but I mean, they were able to sustain tries from running the ball quite a bit.

And McCarthy was doing a great job, obviously taking care of the football and getting it to his playmakers and making the plays that they needed to make. Offensively, we did see a little bit of improvement in the passing game, which is good, right? We had some explosive plays that, you know, they went to luke lachey who had a great day right um so we're seeing some progress in the passing game but uh we're still got issues um on the offensive line and in the run game as we're going against a you know a better better front front seven so still a bunch of things that have to be worked out but obviously give a bunch of credit to michigan obviously they're a fantastic football team they came in here um they didn't do anything special they played a clean game of football and ultimately you know the talent and

the better team just just won yeah it was just michigan's better and that's the takeaway from this one they're a better football team in iowa The way that they're built, they have to be perfect. You have to be perfect. And in a day where the defense wasn't perfect, well, it showed up there, even with the improvements that you saw offensively. So LaShawn, I get together with my group. We have our section together in 109 and buddies from college that are all together. And we've sat together for years and years now, going back about 25 plus years now since I started going to games. So got this group together. And then we also go down to the, I guess it'd be what the southeast end zone in the corner there at halftime.

There's that little gap there. And my buddies that sit in different places across the stadium, they also come. And we just talk about the first half and kind of recap everything. We had 90 yards of total offense at the half. You know, things are looking we had 90 yards of total offense at the half you know things are looking better 90 yards of offense we're talking about how much better things were at that point and six of those yards came on that stupid fake kneel down play that they ran at the end of the half which kind of bush league for my mind uh running that one it just that's where we are

with this team a lot of the yards were put up late in the football game in the fourth quarter michigan was playing a very soft kind of prevent, kind of prevent zone defense. And I, I can see how Spencer looks good in practice because that's probably the kind of defense that he's working against a lot of times. It's just some soft zone and able to get some work in. I didn't walk away thinking that this was some great Eureka moment that suddenly I was offenses figured out it's better. Hey, we're not worse in the country anymore we're 130th now in the country in total offense not 131st anymore yeah it's better but where you're going from the lowest bar possible it's still not great this offense still can't win

there's not a game I still see on the schedule if the Iowa defense struggles a little bit you think of Illinois and their physical brand of football that they're going to be playing on Saturday night coming up you look at the other teams that are great in the Big Ten West, but there's still not a game on this schedule that I see still with this offense even improving that they can go out and win. This offense can put up 31, 35, 38 points and win the game. We're still not at that point, right? No. No. We're not even, you know, we've obviously seen improvement, right? Statistically, right? We've made improvement. But yeah, I mean, again, right now, offensively, it's not, I know we talk about complimentary football all the time. And Coach Ference talks about complimentary football all the time. And it's not really complimentary football when, you know, the defense and the special teams are dragging the offense every single week.

Right. Because that's not complimentary. Right. The offense is going to have to provide something. Right. Because the defense can't be perfect every single week. Right. Like it's like it's just not not going to happen, especially as we go against some really good teams. Right. We got it. This is a tough, really, really, really tough stretch. We got right here, Michigan. Right. And we got Illinois this week. And then, you know, in a few weeks, you got Ohio State. Right. That's not not an easy stretch. Right. And the defense isn't going to be perfect. Right. Every every series. Right. So the offense is going to have to give us more right and i know we talked

about this right before we came on here but like because the offense as a whole is not an efficient unit the margin for error is so small right so whenever we miss you know i just think of the one in the first half right where spencer missed the tight end right over the middle, right? Like, we don't, yeah, we don't convert, we don't hit that play, right? Like, because our offense isn't great, right? Like, those opportunities only pop up every, you know, maybe once a game, twice a game, right? And when we don't hit those, right, we end up being in a situation where I think we ended up punting on that drive, right? So we don't get any points, right?

And then they go down and, you know, they get points. Right. So because that margin of error is so small and because our offense is very inefficient, it puts so much stress on the defense and special teams. That's like, if we don't make a play, if we don't get like a big interception or if we don't block a punt or we don't do, you know, anything right. Like we're not going to score enough

points to win. Right. And right now it's not very, very complimentary football from my football team. And it's been based on the offense, right? It's not just, it's not just Spencer. It's not just the offensive line. It's not just the receivers, right. Or the running game, right. It's everyone as a whole. And right now it it's just not a very cohesive unit. You know, I go back and I think of, first of all, the evolution that we've seen from Kirk and the changes that he has evolved and changed and adapted. And he has at a certain level. During the 24 years, obviously, as a head coach, you have to.

I mean, there's no way you can survive without an evolution of things. But as you get older, I think it goes for all of us. You get a little more stuck in your ways, a little more headstrong and maybe unwilling to adapt and change. Go back to early in your career and the evolution that we saw. And after that disappointing four and eight year, there were changes and there was a little more aggressive attitude and the ability to go for it more on fourth down, those kinds of things. They were small. They were little things that happen, but I don't know if Kirk is willing to do that anymore. And that's the concerning part about this. I love Kirk Ferentz as a person. I love him as a football coach and what he's meant to this program. And I love

being 42 years old and I've only seen two football coaches in my life at the University of Iowa. That is a badge of honor. Yeah. Is it mediocrity at times? Sure. But there's also the other part. There aren't those big l other part. There aren't those big lulls. There aren't those big step backs. You know, you are going to be a consistent weather winner in what he is going to build. College football over the last two, three years has changed more though than has changed certainly in my lifetime and maybe dating back a hundred years. I mean, that's how far we have changed with the NIL era and the transfer portal and everything else as things continue to change.

And that's off the football field and then on the football field, how it's changing. We've talked about this a lot. Obviously, you as a former Hawkeye running back about the zone blocking scheme and how different the rules have changed over these five years. And you can't do the same kind of things that you did in the past. You know this program. You know that Kirk has evolved with it. Are we at a point, though, that he is willing to change what they do offensively, that Kirk has evolved with it are we at a point though that he is willing to change what they do offensively that he can look at it if this season ends say

they miss a bowl game say they go five and seven this year and they they don't get bowl eligible something that is always a big calling card and Kirk talks about this a lot do you think that he is going to take a realistic view of the offense and say what we're doing just doesn't work in college football today he's changed in the past is he willing to do it with the offense yeah that's a great question um and frankly i mean honestly i don't know right i don't know i know i obviously know that coach ference is a very very prideful guy right like he loves things um his way i mean especially i mean anyone would right like if i was, you know in general like really over these past few years right like i mean you think of towards the end of

you know the 20 2000 to 2010s right when the spread offenses started taking taking over college football right and now um fast forward 10 years now, and now, you know, you got transfer portals taken off, you got NIL and all this stuff, like you just mentioned, right? College football is changing rapidly, right? So looking at that and looking at the way the offense has been trending over the past several years, right? I know Coach Ferentzence he's not going to want to end he's not going to want to end you know with bad taste in his mouth right especially um all the work he's done over his career here at iowa right when he eventually does decide to you know retire and and call it right like he's not going to want to end it on a bad taste in his mouth right i mean just just from knowing him right like? Like, that's not going

to be in him, right? So he will have to honestly look at everything as a whole, like, okay, what we're doing obviously isn't working, right? So we're going to have to make some changes, and they probably won't be drastic changes, right? It won't be anything crazy, right? We're not going to go air raid, right? Like, that's just not going to happen, right? We're not going to go air raid, right? Like that's just not going to happen, right? It's not happening. But, right, like it could be obviously more willing, right, to possibly, right, getting rid of some of his kind of offensive philosophy, right, and kind of letting, you know, whoever the OC is,

whether it is Brian, which, you know, it's obviously most likely probably will not, right. Or whoever ends up being that's in here, right. Kind of letting them do their thing and really trying to move Iowa really within, in the year of 2023. Right. When we get to that point, because you see like right now, well, what we're putting on, on the field right now, offensively, it just, it just hasn't been good

the past few years everyone knows everyone sees it they see the coaches aren't blind like they know it as well right um but obviously like that's talk that that they keep within the building within themselves right they're never gonna you know outright and come out and say like yeah like we're just god-awful everywhere right like there's there's not gonna do that right but i could see them you know looking and making some changes because right i mean everyone everywhere is doing it right it just seems like i was the one place that is and i mean even in the nfl right like teams are spreading it out more right they're not going the traditional um you know run the ball 40 times a game right right like it's just it's just not not football in these days, right?

So we're going to have to make some changes to help move this offense forward because right now I feel like with the defenses that we've had really over the past several years and special teams that we've always had, I feel like those groups are really being held back by the offense.

Well, I said my piece on the first podcast of the week about the officiating. It was a storyline. We'll get LaShawn's perspective on that when we come back. It's LaShawn Daniels-Trencott in here with you. This is the Locked On Hawkeyes podcast. The numbers don't lie. In the last decade, over 4 million people have chosen

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playing in the Big Ten and being in the NFL. You know there's going to be days that you get a bad whistle. Your takeaway from Saturday, certainly frustration, but as a player, how you work through moments like that when you feel like maybe you're not getting a fair shake. Yeah. Obviously, to lead it off, it's very, very frustrating. If you're not getting the call that you feel like should go your way

or you see a call that gets made or you see a call that gets missed, right? It can be very, very frustrating as a player, right? Because it's like, you know, I'm going against this other team, this good football team, and I'm going against the refs as well, right? It can feel like that at times. but all of that said right like we've been taught like forever right that um whether it's you know from high school all the way up to the professional level right like don't let the game get to the point where the rest uh can decide it right and realistically the game was never at that point on saturday um so you know really as a right, like I wouldn't have thought too much of it, especially like with some of those like aggressive penalties that I kind of recall on

on our offensive lineman, right, both on the clipping penalty and the necessary roughness one, right? Like those are aggressive penalties that, you know, just end up being bad discretion from the refs right but like i'm not gonna stop being aggressive and playing that way just because you know it was a discretionary call that that the refs decided to make on you know obviously something that we all everyone probably agrees with that they weren't they weren't penalties right so you know it is what it is you know you're not gonna get know, the right whistle every single time, right? That's just, that's just football, right? Like we don't have the robotic refs and all this stuff, right?

And we can't subject every single penalty to a review, right? Games would be five hours long. So all that said, you know, as a player that, you know, refs are they're part of the game it is what it is um but obviously like i'm not going to change up a bunch of my play just because of how the refs decide to call a game right because i can't right like i can't be thinking about you know exactly what the ref is going to be calling every single time i step out there right when i'm already going against um good football players on the other side. So that's kind of my piece on it.

I never really factor in the refs, right, no ref. It's very, very rare that a ref, referee, or a call is going to outright decide a football game, right, and it wasn't that way on Saturday. No, I go back, and this is before your time, but 2005, Iowa had a long winning streak at Kinnick. I think it was 22 games, something like that. It was the first ever blackout game against Michigan. Iowa got a bad whistle that day, and I was spitting mad about that. But it's just the mentality, and it doesn't matter what level of sport.

I dealt with it playing crappy high school basketball up in North Iowa, baseball and stuff. You deal with these kind of things, and it's going to happen from time to time. But it's just, at this point, I just look at it as such a loser mentality. I said yesterday on the podcast, Spencer Lee, he said, excuses are for wusses and the excuses that are out there. I just, I don't like the mentality. There's going to be times that that's going to happen. You have to play through it. And as you said, LaShawn, at the top, you know, Iowa has to be just so damn perfect offensively because of the struggles that they have. Yeah, they can't overcome that.

Goes back to the complimentary football, right? Well, because your offense stinks so much, you can't overcome something like that. You can't overcome when you get a bad whistle because you're so bad offensively. And that just kind of goes in lockstep with what we've seen. I do want to get one perspective from you. And this is something Kirk has done since the beginning, since 1999 is he'll use timeouts to dress down officials. If something isn't going well, he will do that.

What's it like on the sideline when Kirk's going nuts there and what we could read lips. We know there's some choice language. You know, we get a lot of people have this stoic image of, of Kirk Ferentz, the older statesman in college football. Nice guy, a professional, but he'll spit some nails out there on the sidelines. So take us to the sideline a little bit of what it's like. And you guys ever get a little chuckle? You get a little laugh when you hear Kirk and some of the things he's got to say to the crew? Usually at the time, you're not like chuckling about it you're just like

like something afterwards that you guys are talking about yeah yeah like afterwards like after the game you'll be like hey remember when uh coach was just going off on the ref or you know or whatever situation it was right so um and that's really how it should be taken care of right like obviously as players we can't worry about the referees, right? There's a reason why, you know, most of the time they tell us, hey, don't even, like, bother speaking to them. Like, Coach Ferentz is always like, I'll handle it. I'll take care of it, all this stuff, right?

So it is one thing, like, a good thing. It's like, hey, like, obviously, he's always got our back, right? He's always going to be fighting for us against, like, towards the refs, right? So, like, it's not something that we actually have to worry about. But yeah, it is definitely like some of the things sometimes are pretty funny. I mean, I think you could even like hear

it sometimes like you know, like if you're watching it on TV, like sometimes like when he's going off, right? Like sometimes you can even catch a glimpse of it on the TV listen. So yeah it it's definitely very interesting um when it happens um you're on the sideline you're like right next to him you're just kind of like you're just like right there and you're just kind of just like looking like

awkwardly like just trying to uh not be involved right because obviously you don't want the energy end up being directed at you which it wouldn't it wouldn't be. But, yeah, that's kind of how it is. But I do enjoy it. I do like it, though. He's always going to fight right for us. Right. And make sure that that if a ref does make a questionable call that right, like he's going to let him hear it without obviously, you know, giving her and the team. Well, a good perspective there, certainly. And yeah, i would love to be on the sidelines just for that uh one of my best friends he was the red hat on the sideline the guy that brings it back from tv commercials and so he got to be right there next to you guys for a number of years and yeah had some uh definitely

some good stories and some one-liners also some zingers from kirk it's not just dressing down the officials and and a couple of profanities. He had some things to say that always would get a chuckle, I think, from my buddy on the sidelines there. We're going to take a quick timeout. We're going to continue and we're going to look forward. That progression, some of the positives, what that means going forward. The Big Ten West still is there for a taking.

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But Illinois is playing big boy football. Brett Bielema has gone there and built the program in his image. He is a big fat man, and he is out there with a bunch of big fat men up front. Leading rusher in the country in Brown. They can run the football. Tommy DeVito, the transfer from Syracuse, he has been very efficient this year. This is what we saw in Wisconsin, and now we are seeing it at Illinois.

Iowa is an underdog here, a three-and-a-half-point dog, as we talk here today. So a look at the matchup and the physicality. Coming off the Michigan game, is this a good opponent? Is this a good one to try to right the ship, try to find it? And a little bit maybe of a letdown after what Illinois did this week. I think Iowa does find Illinois, at least myself, at a good time.

What do you think? Yeah, it is definitely a good opportunity, right? It's really a good opportunity for both programs, right? Like Illinois, obviously they're playing well to start the year. And obviously they're trying to continue, you know, being on the role that they're on, like showing that like, yeah, like we're for real. Right. Like because Illinois, I mean, they've had Wisconsin's number a few times, like over the past few years. Right. But like they obviously they've struggled against Iowa over the past several years as well. So it's like, okay, how can we prove to obviously not only the country, right, but also to ourselves that we're like actually for real now,

like we can actually go ahead and we can, you know, match this performance that we put on the field against Wisconsin, you know, last week, like can we duplicate against against the Hawkeyes uh this week right and on the flip side now now you're looking at Iowa and it's like okay we saw some progression made right offensively right um they have another opportunity against another good program right this is another good good football team they're going to be going against right I mean we've seen them Illinois offense right I think they're averaging almost 30 points a game um and then defensively i think they hold teams on averaging it's like 230 yards something around there right so again they're good on both sides of

the football right so now iowa it's like okay we dropped the game against michigan but it is what it is right that's in the past we get another great opportunity not only against um a good football team but a good football team in the Big Ten West right and um right now as you said right Iowa's goals and attaining reaching to the Big Ten title game right they're still all there right and it starts with obviously getting back um this week and beating um a divisional opponent right and as well as a good football team because right and you come out of this game um and you play strong on all three phases you know defensively obviously special teams and then we obviously show some some good growth offensively right it really gives iowa right like okay like we're not as rough as we may be right and then you also you

get that that victory right before the bye week because it's going to sting quite a bunch right if you we lose on saturday then you have to buy week and then now you got to travel to ohio state in a few weeks right that's not going to be ideal right so coming here strong um going on the road against a good opponent, it's a very, very big and good opportunity for the Hawks. Opportunity is there. The West is there for the taking. Minnesota looked completely different without Mo Ibrahim out there.

As he was banged up, had an ankle injury, he wasn't able to go. Purdue goes in there. We know Purdue is going to be a difficult matchup for Iowa at that point. Certainly O'Connell will probably be back healthy, and he'll be slinging around to Chuck Jones, and we'll see him out there making plays against his former team. Wisconsin is a mess. How about Paul Chris getting fired too? I knew they were struggling.

They have 15-10 their last 25 games. That's bad for their standards, but this is a Madison guy. His dad was a coach in Wisconsinisconsin and and to see that happen it's just completely different you see nebraska well of course they're going to fire scott frost that makes sense but to see paul chris go and then we look around here and maybe this is a frustrating aspect for some players some fans excuse me out there is it feels at this point no matter how bad it goes it's just going to be more of the same. You like to have hope as a fan, right? I'm a Bears fan. I have no hope. I'm a Hawkeye fan. I have no hope. I'm a Twins fan. I have no hope. Hope is gone, LaShawna. It's a rough existence over here.

I'm struggling. No, I hear you. I hear you. I mean, it's got to be rough to watch the Iowa offense on Saturday and then watch the Bears offense on Sundays right I get that can't be a fun fun time at all right and um that is but that is interesting though like obviously I was shocked right to see it was kind of like I didn't even know he was on the hot seat right I didn't even know like that was something that was like even up right but obviously I feel like they part of the reason I feel like that came is because obviously they're they haven't played good against any of the Power 5 teams they've played this year, right? I think they are only three this year against all Power 5 teams. But they got probably in their mind like a head coach of the future in Jim Leonard, right, over there, right, who could end up being a really, really good coach for them and could end up being a guy right and i think he's gonna be their interim coach and you know it could

be opportunity where like hey you probably want to try to jump on him while we have the opportunity before he goes to you know nebraska right and you gotta play him um you know every single year right so that is something that come out of it but it's like they were they weren't even like crazy mediocre right like like they've been i think they're like 60 like chris was like 69 and like 20 something right over the past he's been there right so it's not like they were bad right so it's very interesting then you compare that to iowa where again we're i think we're very similar record over the past several years but it's like you you know, obviously like with Iowa, you kind of know what you're going to get.

And Wisconsin, they're like, we know what we were going to get. And then, you know, we were like, obviously sick of it. So they're looking for something else. So very, very interesting thing that happened with that coaching change. And we'll see if it ends up, you know, paying off for it. Well, got some interesting numbers coming up this week a look at the iowa offense and yes it has regressed just how much it's regressed under the brian ference regime got some numbers that i'll be throwing your guys's way leshawn he's going to

be back with us later in the week we had a week off as i was at a work trip so i was outside of the area last friday we'll be back on fr, though, more with LaShawn and break things down, get ready for the Illinois game and a whole lot more. And, of course, you can talk about the whole Big Ten with Locked On Big Ten. Nate Dickinson takes you around the Big Ten in 30 minutes each and every day. Just search Locked On Big Ten and you'll find that. I pop on. LaShawn, I think, has popped on in the past. And you can hear everything going on across the Big Ten landscape.

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