Locked On Hawkeyes - Daily Podcast On Iowa Hawkeyes Football & Basketball - QB Coach Tim Jenkins joins to discuss working with Iowa football player Alex Padilla and why college QBs turn to external coaches for work

Episode Date: June 18, 2021

We are joined by former pro quarterback and current QB coach Tim Jenkins to discuss his work with Iowa football quarterback Alex Padilla. Tim discusses the reasons why QBs get assistance outside of college, what Alex is working on, and the ins and outs of Iowa's offense.Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!Built BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKED15,” and you’ll get 15% off your next order.BetOnline AGThere is only 1 place that has you covered and 1 place we trust. Betonline.ag! Sign up today for a free account at betonline.ag and use that promocode: LOCKEDON for your 50% welcome bonus.Rock AutoAmazing selection. Reliably low prices. All the parts your car will ever need. Visit RockAuto.com and tell them Locked On sent you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Follow the Lockdown NFL Draft podcast on the Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcast app. And on today's show, we are joined by Tim Jenkins. You might have seen his name floating around a little bit because Tim was actually the quarterback coach for our backup quarterback for the Iowa Hawkeyes, Alex Padilla. He has been working with Alex since seventh grade. I picked Tim's brain about quarterback coaching, you know, Spencer Petras, Nate Stanley getting quarterback coached up, I should say, and what Alex Padilla has been working on.

We talk all about that on the show today. Just a reminder that we are a Monday, Wednesday, Friday show during the offseason. Once we get back into football season, we'll be back with content every single day. And on Monday's episode, we're going to be breaking down some of the news and notes that happened and took place over the last couple days, including official visits, unofficial visits, a chat with Kirk Ferentz and what we learned from a press conference that Kirk Ferentz has done. And then also some awesome stuff about Luka Garza and the fact that he was nominated for Best Male Athlete in College Sports. And we got the women's college basketball schedule.

That's all going to be stuff we're talking about on Monday's episode, so stay tuned for that. That being said, though, let's hop into our content of our show today with Tim Jenkins of Tim Jenkins Elite. All right, y'all, I'm honored to be joined here by Tim Jenkins of Tim Jenkins Elite. Tim, it's a pleasure having you on the show. You were just recently working with Alex Padilla, so I thought it was a perfect time to reach out to you, but before we get into the show, how are you personally doing

today? I'm doing great, man. I'm doing great. We have three rugrats at home, so I've got some good sleep. But yeah, it was good. It was fun getting out the door to come and talk some football, so I was pumped up. I love that. How old are your children? We've got four, two, and then eight months. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, we're just knocking it all out, right? We'll knock it all out, and then I'll be out of the diaper phase soon, and then I'll be real happy. How's sleep going for you?

Are you able to get any sleep, or is your wife just a champ? Yeah, my wife's a champ, but it's not existent, I think, for both of us. It's either like the eight-month-old will sleep, and then the four-year-old comes running in because like he's now old enough to be scared so it's like it doesn't matter it doesn't matter it's just a recurring theme there it just seems like i was one kid's always having an issue right yeah one kid and then eventually they'll all be waking us up because it's like he's trying to sneak out to go check out some honey so it's just like a matter of time right it's just like it doesn't matter but wow man it's the it's the best you're you're a pretty busy guy you have um obviously tim jenkins elite you're doing a lot of uh seems

like private quarterback coaching and also some um very targeted skill camps how did you get started into all of this yeah you know well i mean i didn't mean to right i thought i was a i thought i was to be an NFL quarterback forever. And then it turns out that I got fired pretty quick. So after my stint in the NFL, went up to the CFL, and then came home. And honestly, I tell everybody this. I was getting ready to sell insurance. I was just like, what do former quarterbacks do while they golf and sell insurance? And that's what I was getting ready to do and one of my dad's co-workers you know asked what I was doing and I drove out to like middle of nowhere Colorado and and did a quarterback lesson for like ten dollars I think and so I lost money between gas and stopping at you know good times but no I I just got hooked on it and you know now it's kind of grown to where we have two locations in Colorado we have one in Houston one in Phoenix and um you where we have two locations in Colorado. We have one in Houston, one in Phoenix. And, you know, we have a bunch of people on staff now and it's, it's fun. It's, I really think it's the most fulfilling thing on planet earth to watch,

you know, a kiddo set a goal, work really hard to go achieve the goal. Right. And that's like, you know, whether it be a youth or high school kid. And then obviously there's college and NFL guys that are looking to just get a little bit better. Right. Cause that's the difference between getting a ton of reps and getting no reps. And, um, you know, that's obviously a ton of fun cause that's higher level teaching, but honestly, I, there's nothing like getting out there with like, you know, the 12 year old who's like, wants to win an eighth grade championship. It's just fun. It's, it's, it's the most fulfilling thing. And thing. And it's been, it's been a wild journey. That's amazing. When you can combine your

passions with what you're good at and make that into a career, you've hit the jackpot there. Yeah, I lucked out. I lucked out and, and, you know, I, I, I ended up just hiring a bunch of my friends, right? Like our Parker quarterback director, he was my quarterback coach growing up. And then, you know, the guy who started Houston, did NFL draft prep with us, spent some time with the Jags. The guy who launched Phoenix, trained with us, went to college and then started that. And, you know, one of my best friends growing up,

Adam Byrne is our recruiting coordinator because he spent time with Boise State as a recruiting guy. So it's just like, I don't't know I lucked out for sure I I feel uh bad at times when I get on Twitter and I see people like complaining about their job I feel like guilty but um no I I love it and the kiddos too I mean you know you you go and interview all the college guys. The age group from 16 to 22 is seriously the most entertaining male demo to talk to because it's just so funny and they're so blunt. And it's been fun. It's definitely the best thing. I definitely understand that. Honestly, one of my favorite parts about my – and this isn't my full-time job, but something I love to do, obviously a passion project.

But I've interviewed so many of the recruits going into Iowa and their personalities are just, it is, it is truly phenomenal. And they have me cracking up almost every single time, or I'm just looking at them thinking, wow, you are so much more mature than I probably am now or that I was at that time. Deuce Hogan is a great example um four-star quarterback on a great vine faith uh now one of the backup quarterbacks competing with Alex Padilla who we'll talk about in a second but I talked to him three times and

every time I'm like dude are you normal like you're way too mature every response was um so uh spot on and professional but also informative and i was like this doesn't seem right like i feel like you should be interviewing me he was saying no you know sir yes sir i'm like please please don't call me sir i'm not i'm not that old yet but yeah no it's it's wild definitely makes it for a lot of fun i mean what are some of the quarterbacks you've worked with i know you've worked with several pretty top of the market quarterbacks so who are some of the guys you've worked with so far? Some of the guys, I mean, the, the biggest NFL guy we have is PJ Walker.

So he's with the Carolina Panthers and kind of tore up the XFL. So he's probably the biggest name we have. We had Luis Perez who spent a little bit of time with the Rams and then he's bounced around the XFL and some of the college guys. So we have Heinrich Harburg, who's at Nebraska as an early enrollee. Obviously we have Alex, we have Ty who Ty Evans, who was at NC state. Now he's at Texas state. So we have the Brayden Dorman kid who is getting recruited by everybody right

now too. So it's, it's been good. We've got a good little group of guys that when they get home and compete with each other, it's a lot of fun to watch because uh there's nothing you know it's good for those guys to work out on their own to kind of hey we got to zero in on some things but it's also good to get those guys around other top guys because you know you see them press a little bit more which is um always a good thing for those quarterbacks because they need to you know press a little bit to then you can kind of back them off and um and we can you know evaluate the rep but it's been uh it's been good and it's been fun and uh all those guys have their own challenges ahead of them all right y'all want to quickly pause the conversation because i need to tell you about built bar the best tasting protein

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Alex Padilla is currently the backup at Iowa, Cherry Creek Kid. I'm assuming that's probably how you kind of got working with him. Obviously, you have a lot of connections in this Denver area. So how did you get hooked up with Alex Padilla though? Yeah, Alex, honestly,

I was a funny story. Cause Alex was one of my very first clients. So Alex was like a seventh grader when we started working. And he was, I saw you like talk about him this one time and you've been working with him for the last like nine years. Yeah. He was, he was a kiddo that, you know, he, his dad emailed me and his dad's like the greatest guy on planet earth and totally undersold, you know, how good his kid was. And, um, you know, Alex was fun to work with because Alex took, I don't want to say it in a negative way, but he took him, he took his game really seriously. Like he wasn't there to be a seventh grader and like have fun. He was there to work. Um, and I'm sure you get that when you talk to him in an interview, he's a very, you know, pragmatic, he's, he's serious about what he does. And he's the same

exact way, you know, obviously, now that, that he's in college. So yeah, I got hooked up with Alex when he was just a, you know, little baby giraffe trying to figure it out. And now he's, you know, dialed in and up there. But yeah, it was fun. It's funny, because he's uh you know dialed in and up there but uh yeah it was fun it's funny because he's a kid that you know you you work with so many and and you get to know you know a ton of kiddos but like the first five guys are super special right they're the guys that um you know and he jokes about how much it's changed he's like he, he talks about like, you know, he used to come out and a group session, there'd be like two kids and just you. He's like, now there's like, you know, seven coaches and, you know, 80 kids. He just, he's funny.

And it is special seeing his success because, you know, he's been working at it so long, but also I feel like we kind of grew up together in our, in our paths. That's super cool. Definitely share a unique bond there. It's kind of one of the first trainees and whatnot. So how proud does it make you to see him succeeding at that D1 level? I mean, he hasn't had an opportunity to start yet,

but even in spring practice, he's closed the gap. Now, Spencer Petras had some struggles last year, so there's always going to be a high degree of visibility on that quarterback position, especially at Iowa, and especially when you look at had some struggles last year. So there's always going to be a high degree of visibility on that quarterback position, especially at Iowa. And especially when you look at the struggles this past year, Alex Padilla has now taken that step to put himself in the running. When to be completely honest,

I feel like a lot of Iowa football fans wrote off Alex. They saw Spencer. They saw Deuce and they're like, well, this one kid from Chagat Creek, we haven't heard a lot about. I just want to get a sense from you. What does Alex bring to the table, though? Yeah, I mean, listen, what's so funny is one of my really good friends is like a diehard Hawkeyes fan. Oh, that's awesome. And when Padilla went up there, he's like, yeah, he's never going to play.

It's like, oh, okay. So, anyways, now he's changed his tune, and he's like, I don't know why we didn't get to him last year. So, it's like, you know, what Alex brings is exactly that. What Alex brings is, you know, he's not six five, but he's big enough. He's strong enough. He's gotten good enough arm, but Alex is going to get Iowa needs a guy who's going to get them in and out of the right play call. And who's going to complete the looks that are there because everything's built off their run game. We're not talking about like a complex passing game, right?

Everything's off a run action. Everything's very pro style, right? Pure progression. Hey, here to here to here. And Alex has been doing that since he was an eighth grader. Like Alex has been running samurai with me since he was an eighth grader. So when he goes up there and gets it in spring, it's not like he's like, Oh, I don't know what to like. He's dialed. So Alex is a kid that to me is going to be one of those guys is going to compete his tail off.

And I just think he's a guy that obviously I'm biased that when you turn to him, it's going to be a lot like PJ Walker, right? PJ kind of that people kind of wrote him off as a cult. And then all of a sudden he got his shot in the XFL, and people were like, this dude's a superstar. Like, how did this happen? I just think eventually when Padilla gets his shot and he's the guy, I really think people are going to start looking around like,

how did we not get here sooner? Because I do feel like he's the guy that's going to get him in and out of the right run play, the pass look. He's going to be able to read everything out. So to me, it's out of the right run play. The pass look, he's going to be able to read everything out. So to me, it's just he's a steady hand. And when you look at Iowa and when they've been the most successful, their quarterback, I don't want to say he's been the reason they win games, but everything at the line of scrimmage isn't sexy.

But the difference between, hey, getting into power against the right three-tech look, that's something that fans don't see that is super important to an offense like Iowa. And that's where I just think Alex's steady hand when it, or if he does get a shot is going to be a really good thing for that offense. Yeah. And when you look at Alex, I would, I don't want to say unassuming,

but he's not the tallest guy. He's not the biggest guy. He's not the fastest guy or the biggest arm. But when we seen him in limited action, I love the athleticism. I see the ability to get out of the pocket, to make plays in the run, which is definitely something we don't typically see from Iowa quarterback. And then you think about the intangibles and being able to make the right calls, the line of scrimmage. One of the things about Iowa quarterbacks is they do give a lot of

responsibility to the quarterback at the line of scrimmage and trying to make those play calls. So that's very exciting for me to hear about Alex Padilla and the fact that he's been doing a lot of these things for so long. I wanted to talk a little bit about the idea of working with the quarterback coach. Now, clearly, Alex has been working with you since seventh grade, so it's only natural that's going to continue on. But we talked about this a little bit pre-show.

A year ago, Nate Stanley is going into the NFL draft. He decides to not go to the senior bowl. It turns out he wanted to continue working on his mechanics. He wanted to work with his quarterback coach out in Jersey. Spencer Petras is now working with a quarter, the same quarterback coach out in Jersey. And one of the comments Nate Stanley made was the fact that he didn't feel like he got all of that mechanical type of work

in college at Iowa. Now I find that interesting because I was not known for being a quarterback pipeline, right? We're not, we're not popping out first round quarterbacks like Alabama or Clemson. But the fact that gives so much responsibility to the quarterback, you would think that that would allow you to be a better pro ready quarterback. But I wanted to get a sense from you. And this is a very longwinded introduction to this question um how important is it for a college quarterback to use outside coaching um and what would you say would be your response to uh even Nate Stanley saying he wasn't getting that mechanical work at Iowa well it's so one this is a really nuanced conversation because like that, that comment is pretty toxic in and of itself. Right.

So it's a very nuanced conversation though, because listen, if I'm a college, if I'm a college quarterback coach, right. I look at it like this. I recruit these kids because they can play. It's my job to teach them scheme and the NCAA handicaps me to such a point with time with them that if I'm not just coaching scheme. So let's look at Stanley, for example. Was there a lot of stuff biomechanically Nate could clean up? Absolutely. Was it more valuable for them to get him and watch film with him to get him to make the right run game check or go and reteach him his backswing it's way more valuable to watch the film right he's throwing it at such a level that we can survive but if he doesn't make the right check

it doesn't matter we're sacked or or whatever it's a negative play so it's a mute point so that would be why i would tell you, like a college guy, typically those college coordinators and QB coaches don't work the biomechanics. This is a whole other conversation of my industry and what we've started to tell kids that maybe – here's my philosophy on throwing, right? There are biomechanic, there are biomechanic consistencies amongst all great quarterbacks, right?

Whether it be his backswing arm angle, there's so many different sequencing things that are consistent with that being said, thank God, no one changed Phillip rivers release and gotten his head. So to me, it's like, I don't know if you play golf, but I have so many buddies. I will have so many buddies that are relatively good players and they go and see a coach and the coach wants to get them to swing, like name a pro. And the guy gets so in his head that he turns into a terrible quarterback.

So to me, it's one of those things where it's like, okay, there are certain times that it's like, yeah, we've got to make a change for this kid to survive terrible quarterback. So to me, it's one of those things where it's like, okay, there are certain times that it's like, yeah, we got to make a change for this kid to survive. Right. But if he's a good enough thrower and he's good enough at this, to me, it's all about footwork and other stuff. And I don't know what Nate was specifically working on that couldn't be addressed in a four week window before the senior bowl. But, you know, I would also, I'd be very cautious with like, Hey, I want to work on my mechanics. Well, what are we working on? What's the point of it?

There's so many different layers to that question. But I do think a lot of it, I don't think it has anything to do with a good or a bad thing about Iowa. And I think it has everything to do with the NCAA limitations. That's why these kids have to go get private coach. Like we have a bunch of guys that come in over spring break and summer break that I would never claim like, Hey, I work with this guy. Cause I've seen him, you know, two weeks. Like I,

I like to talk about our guys we've had that since they were, you know, little toddlers, right. Six graders, you know, but there's so many guys that want a little tune up because they can't work with their coach. And that has everything to do with the NCAA and nothing to do with whether or not these are good coaches or not. And like this, the NFL is the same boat, right? PJ Walker doesn't come out here to work because, you know, he thinks I'm better than Joe Brady. Maybe he thinks that,

but it's because he can't write the NFL PA has said, Hey, you can't work with your with your coaches during this time. So I think that's more or less why coaches are prioritizing scheme and not mechanics. And then listen, I would have to actually be in those meeting rooms and on the practice field to see if it's getting addressed or see if it was something that, you know, philosophically, you know, O'Keefe might have thought, hey, I like this style. And then I know Tony out in Jersey. And then Tony might have thought, listen, this isn't how we want to do it. And those are just philosophical differences, not necessarily that one is right or wrong.

As long as they're teaching within the biomechanics structure, that's kind of been proven. I would tell you there's a lot of nuance to that. And then Nate might have felt like, oh, well, this guy's actually working with me. And Ken wasn't. When in reality, Ken just didn't view that as something that needed to be changed. All right, y'all. One more pause of the show today. And we will wrap up with segment three with Tim here in a few moments.

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Go to rockauto.com right now to see all the parts available for your car or truck right locked on in their how to do here about us box. So they know we sent you amazing selection, reliably low prices, all the parts your car will ever need. Visit rockauto.com. Yeah, that was an amazing answer because i think i feel like i went on for like 10 minutes no no that was perfect because i for me when i heard that comment so i went down to the senior bowl i've gone down a senior bowl every year except

for the last couple years except for this year because yeah of it and i was like whatever i'm not going to get into the thing um i was like i got my vaccine and so i was like i shouldn't be going down until i get everything um but for nate to say that i was like this I got my vaccine. And so I was like, I shouldn't be going down until I get everything. But for Nate to say that I was like, this is weird. I was expecting to see him at the senior bowl and interview him and all that stuff. And then for him to say that, I was like, this is a bit bizarre. And then you see Spencer Petras who struggled a little bit with accuracy his first year and then go work with a quarterback coach. My initial thought was this doesn't seem right.

There's clear issues with his accuracy, but then the way you break it down makes a lot of sense. Sometimes it just isn't as valuable and isn't going to get you as much bang for your buck as teaching you the scheme. And the pro style scheme is what makes these Iowa quarterbacks a little bit more valuable to the NFL as well. So if you can work on the mechanics other places, then you should be working on the scheme. So I definitely appreciate that insight. And I just think, you know, when you look at Spencer too, you never know what the game plan would have been with him, right? Game plan year one might've been,

let's just get him mentally ready to play. And then they might've said, Hey, we want to address X, Y, Z. But I do think there's also, you know, and this is just a hopefully put the Iowa faithful at ease. There's also the whole notion of like, how can i get out like let's say nate and his agent and his coach made a decision to not do the senior bowl because they're like hey here's my draft stock if i have a good senior bowl it's not going to go up that much if i have a bad one i'm falling out of the draft how can i not act like i don't want to compete right there's so much that goes

into these conversations yeah like hey I want to work on my quarterback mechanics could be code for like dude I don't want to go and risk falling out of the draft right so to me it's like you know I think there are certain times that like if he was in the NFL and said that well he's got nothing to gain at that point right so I think there are certain things too that you got to kind of read between the lines. You know, it's like I was talking about when Trey Lance was coming out this year, everyone was talking about how good he is at the line of scrimmage. Well, if you watch any tape, he didn't do any of the things that they were saying, but listen, I've done the same thing.

I've gone on podcasts and talked about how PJ Walker did XYZ at Temple. Well, no, he didn't, right. But it's my job to get him drafted higher. So there's a lot of, you know, different things that go on during draft season. So I would, I would take everything with a grain of salt if I was an Iowa fan from that aspect. I appreciate the, the honesty there. And it definitely, the Trey Lance conversation was just absurd. Even, I mean, Trey Lance and Justin Fields, I felt like just got picked apart in the weirdest ways about certain things that you could clearly see or not see on tape what they were doing. And just for the fans out there, there's a lot of Denver Broncos fans that are actually living in Iowa. And I know you do a lot of Denver Broncos analysis.

And that's actually how I started following you because Drew Locke is quite an interesting character that you could have content for years on. And the Bronco faithful love to talk about him so definitely check out tim jenkins uh you know the analysis do there last thing about alex um what are some of the things you're working on with him man yeah the biggest thing with alex we talk about like heel alignment we want so again right now with our young guys but these guys that hey you're trying to get them two percent better you want to see their front hip at front shoulder both on their target Padilla sometimes at times will step out a little bit so he'll set that left heel out which just throws his front hip off so that was something we were grinding on we try to do a lot of scripted stuff for these guys meaning like hey

I'll watch an Iowa game tape and script every single play that was called from a passing perspective hey how'd the pocket collapse and we'll try to move these guys in very similar ways Iowa game tape and script every single play that was called from a passing perspective. Hey, how'd the pocket collapse? And we'll try to move these guys in very similar ways, especially our guys who weren't starters. Right. So, hey, let's script it the exact way that it shook out. Then it's almost like he played that game. Right. So in terms of prepping and getting ready for training camp and ultimately, you know,

I mean, Alex wouldn't be shy about it. His goal is to obviously go in there and narrow the gap and then show that, hey, he's someone they can turn to. So I think, you know, just getting him in the right mindset, feeling confident in his mechanics, and also feeling confident in, hey, you know, scripted movements to certain throws, I think hopefully are getting him in a point to where now when, you know, fall camp actually starts he's

rearing and ready to go and and hopefully someone that Hawkeye fans can be excited about man absolutely man we're pumped uh it's nice to know that there are options behind Spencer Petras and there's gonna be a competition between the three between you know Petras Padilla and Hogan um I think like I think Iowa Hawkeyes fans are in a good spot with the quarterback play, at least going forward. All right, man. Well, I appreciate your time. I've taken up a lot more time than I anticipated, but I really appreciate the honesty with your answers and everything you kind of delved into today. The last thing I have for you is what are your future plans for Jenkins

elite and how can folks find you on Twitter, Facebook, wherever you're at? Yeah. So they can just look me up on, you know, Twitter's probably the one I'm most active on, but Twitter and Instagram, it's just at T Jenkins elite. And then, you know, I don't know, man, we'll keep growing. Hopefully, hopefully we'll be in Iowa soon, but no, we just, you know, the hardest thing that we found is finding finding coaches who, who really want to pour into the kiddos. Cause to me, that's, you know,

the most important part is making sure that you're pouring into the kiddos. Cause to me, that's, you know, the most important part is making sure that you're pouring into the kiddos. So we're slowly but surely finding coaches and growing as fast as we can. So anyone listening who wants to coach quarterbacks for a living, feel free to shoot me a DM. I love it, man. Tim, thank you so much for having you, or having coming on the show today. I appreciate your insight. We'll have to have you on later, man. Appreciate you brother. Thank you.

All right, y'all. And that does do it for our show today. I hope you enjoyed the episode as much as I did. I really enjoyed learning from Tim. We'll have to get him back on the show later on. It sounds like he is watching all the Iowa games and checking out their offense and making sure he's giving Alex Padilla the reps that he needs to be able to play in case he were able to get into the game. And as you all know, the quarterback position is a hot topic going into this upcoming season for the Iowa football team. So Alex Padilla could be very much in the starting role by the beginning of the season if he has a strong summer camp. So lots of stuff on the horizon for Alex Padilla.

And Tim Jenkins is the guy to talk to when it comes to Alex Padilla. So hope you enjoyed that. Definitely check out all of Tim's work on Twitter. He does a great job of posting some really great quarterback analysis and content. And if you liked this episode, please give us that five-star review wherever you found this episode at. And if you want more Locked On content, get all the sports news you need in under 20 minutes

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