Locked On Hawkeyes - Daily Podcast On Iowa Hawkeyes Football & Basketball - The impact of Jeff Brohm's absence | Who is going to start at QB for Purdue | What to expect defensively from the Boilermakers

Episode Date: October 22, 2020

We are joined by Purdue alum Chris Schoen on the show today to break down all things Purdue. How big of an impact will the absence of Jeff Brohm have on this football team come Saturday and who will be taking snaps for the Boilermakers? With Lorenzo Neal back, can this defense improve from last year's subpar performance and what makes the Purdue passing attack tick.Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors! Rock AutoAmazing selection. Reliably low prices. All the parts your car will ever need. Visit RockAuto.com and tell them Locked On sent you.Built BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKEDON,” and you’ll get 20% off your next order.BuiltGoVisit BuiltGO.com and use promo code “LOCKED,” and you’ll get 20% off your next order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You are Locked On Hawkeyes, your daily podcast on the Iowa Hawkeyes. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Welcome back, Hawkeye Nation, to another episode of the Locked On Hawkeyes Podcast, your daily podcast covering your Iowa Hawkeyes on the Locked On Sports Network. As always, I am your host, Andrew Wade, and today's episode is brought to you by rockauto.com. Amazing selection, reliably low prices, all the parts your car will ever need, rockauto.com. And as I've been teasing throughout the week, we are doing our crossover episode today. We are going to be doing a crossover episode every single Thursday before game day. And today we are going to be talking to Purdue alum Chris Shane.

Chris is a buddy of mine who does a great job of evaluating talent. He does it as kind of a pastime of his. Also works in the Oklahoma Athletic Department and does love Purdue football. He's the best guy I know to talk to you about what to expect from this Purdue team. I think you're going to really enjoy the insight he provides. So with that being said, let's hop into it. Let's get into the crossover episode with Chris Shane right now, talking Iowa versus Purdue.

All right. I am joined here by Purdue alum, Chris Shane. Chris, it's great to have you on the show, man. Obviously, we talk a lot of football. We went down to Mobile together, and obviously, there's not someone covering Purdue on the Lockdown Sports Network. So I turn to the next best option, which is you, man. You know a lot about Purdue football, being an alum there.

You cover football and obviously are working for the Oklahoma Athletic Department. How are you doing today, though? Doing good, man. Thanks for having me. Excited to be here talking some Big Ten football with you and the rest of Hawkeye Nation. Honestly, didn't think we'd ever get to this point with how things were looking in August. But yeah, man, I'm'm doing good I'm on vacation coming to y'all from the uh you know Great Smoky Mountains and ready to just talk some Purdue Iowa football yeah man I I honestly like I never thought I'd be

so excited for an Iowa Purdue game like I hate playing Purdue Purdue is one of my least favorite teams in the Big Ten not because it's Purdue but the fact that like every year, Iowa seems to be the better and more talented program. And Purdue under Jeff Brom has just made Iowa pay all the time. And even last year, it was still a good game. They were down. They didn't have Rondell Moore. They had a ton of injuries. And yet David Bell, a true freshman, granted a very, very good true freshman,

just torched that defense, a defense that was ranked top 10 in the nation throughout the year they made Iowa look like they were a JV squad so playing Purdue always scares me let's get into the conversation though because there's a couple key things I know I didn't give you this on the rundown but Jeff Braum has COVID and to me that's a pretty big deal as a play caller especially given the fact that offensively Purdue Purdue has dominated Iowa, which, again, has a very strong defense. How big of a concern is that for you that Brian Braum is calling plays? Yeah, so Jeff being gone hurts. I think Jeff being almost an offensive mastermind,

to me it's a full touchdown off. Whatever our expected score would be with him, I think subtract a full seven points for Jeff not being there. I will say the thing that makes me feel a little bit better is that Brian, his brother has been his offensive coordinator for the last five or six years. They've been a brother coaching tandem since all the way back at Western Kentucky. So Brian knows the offense. Now what does concern me is from what is reported about their nature is Jeff is the very loud team motivator. He gets in people's faces and really fires the team up. Brian is the quarterback's coach in the OC and he's the very loud team motivator. He gets in people's faces and really fires the team up.

Brian is the quarterback's coach in the OC and he's the very calming presence. So I don't know if he's going to have that level of trademark aggressiveness that Jeff Brom has with his coaching going front on perfect trick plays. So yeah, so I think we might be more conservative with Brian just as you know, his human nature. I hope I'm wrong. But that's part of what's concerning me is just having a more not tentative but a less aggressive attack that's become kind of our patented offense definitely man when I looked at the game the first thing I said before I even saw the over under was bet the over no matter what hammer the over on Purdue Iowa I didn't want to bet the spread just hammer the over with Jeff Braum out it does scare me I don't know now what to expect I mean what if Brian Braum lays a freaking stinker

and Iowa's defense is able to see what's going on? I mean, that's a big concern if you're a Purdue fan. It absolutely is. Like, I am very concerned about it just because, like, there's a reason Jeff Braum was wanted by Louisville, by allegedly Tennessee. There's a reason we've made him the highest paid coach in the history of the school. Like, he's good at what he does. He's a very talented offensive mind coming from the Bobby Petrino coaching tree. So it's going to be

interesting to see how much of that Brian keeps and what his own kind of flair as a play caller is going to influence on the game itself. Yeah. Well, here's the hoping we understand why Brian is not ever called plays in this game, but the other, you talked about him being the quarterback coach and at quarterback, it seems to be, I didn't realize there was actually a quarterback competition. I assumed it was going to be Jack Plummer, but it seems like Aiden O'Connell and Jack Plummer kind of been battling it out and they're not announcing the quarterback until Saturday. Does quarterback concern you is my first question. And then who do you think is actually going to win that job?

So quarterback doesn't concern me. job? So quarterback doesn't concern me. I feel like we have a deep quarterback room by virtue of both Jack and Aiden taking about 160 to 200 passing snaps each last year. Obviously, Jack went down with an ankle injury and then Aiden finished out the season. Little known fact, it's actually technically it's actually a three quarterback race. We picked up a transfer from UCLA in Austin Burton, who didn't play much there, but he committed being told and promised by the coaches that he was going to have a chance to win the job. Now, I don't truly believe he has a chance to win the job, but I do think he's going to play because Austin Burton is a runner first. He's a running quarterback. And I think if anyone's

willing to use a two quarterback platoon, I think it is Jeff. So Aiden played well last year in relief. He was actually a little bit more accurate and a little bit more efficient of a passer than Jack Plummer. But I do believe Jack Plummer is going to be the starter because he is both a good passer and he can run. Aiden offers zero threat as a runner whatsoever. And Austin Burton doesn't really throw super well. So I feel like Jack Plummer being the best of both worlds is what's going to lead him to be our starting quarterback yeah and that that honestly concerns me as an iowa you know it's an iowa analyst because iowa doesn't do very well when you're trying to stop running quarterbacks running quarterbacks have historically done pretty well against them and again purdue has always done pretty well under jeff braum against

iowa i want to touch on the scheme and what works for them. I know one of the big things that Jeff Braum is attack, attack, attack, attack. And instead of, you know, trying to run the ball and establish run, it's just let's keep throwing the ball. And they've done a really good job of getting behind Iowa secondary. But what outside of, you know, just great wide receivers makes that Jeff Braum scheme work? Yeah, you said it. The great wide receivers are what really drive the engine

that is this offense and not just the starting talent at the top, but the depth looking at the projected depth chart that, you know, a lot of, you know, reporters and fans are putting out. We legitimately are going to run three deep at all three wide receiver positions this year. We have nine horses that are all going to get on the field. So as far as the scheme itself, like I said, he comes from the Bobby Petrino kind of spread offense tree. So there's a lot of emphasis on both tempo and misdirection within his offense. So when you and all your fans are watching the game this weekend, you're going to see a lot of RPOs where the past portion of that RPO is likely going to be a screen outlet to either one or both sides, especially if we're in like a wide trip set. In goal line and short yardage situations,

we run a lot of what would be called a whip or a zig route, depending on what your terminology is, receiver running in the slant and then hitting a hard 180 to run out. That's going to allow us to get Rondé on a lot of our smaller receivers separation. Really, the Brahm offense is attacking you horizontally to then set up the vertical attack. We're going to run a lot of drag routes, especially droughts that are going to run a lot of drag routes, especially droughts that are going to cross in the middle, basically a rub that's hopefully not a rub and hopefully doesn't get called a rub route, that hopefully one or two receivers are going to get open

by passing off their men. And then in terms of running, we run typically out of pistol, so trying to not really know which way the running back is going to go. Jeff also doesn't really subscribe to the tenet of the tight end in the pistol set being the key to the running side. He'll use the tight end as a decoy as often as it is an actual blocker to the run side. So just trying to keep people guessing and then running that through tempo so that if he can get you backpedaling and then he's just going to keep hitting the quick plays, it's going to try to really frustrate the defense and get them out of position. Or I need to quickly pause that crossover

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the fact that teams like Purdue are doing such a great job at attacking with a spread offense is what has made Iowa add a new position on their depth chart of a cash, which is basically just a dime backer. So Iowa has tried to evolve. Let's see if their evolution can help them this year. Moving on to the defensive side, because, again, I know the offensive side is going to be good, but the defensive side. Last year, you lost a lot of players, a lot of injuries throughout the season. You are returning Lorenzo Neal, though, who didn't play last year.

From what I remember, I don't think he played a single game, but he is an absolute animal. His dad, I believe, is a fullback, major big-time fullback in the NFL. What does Lorenzo Neal returning mean to this team? Yeah, Lorenzo coming back is quite literally huge for us. He's up to 6'3 and 325 pounds now as a nose tackle. He brings legitimate grown man strength and true NFL size to the middle of our defense, which is sorely needed, especially in our run defense, which was just gashed last year when he went out along with some of our other defensive linemen. Yeah, Lorenzo coming back is huge. Just from one, from a talent standpoint, I've seen some early mock draft projections have him as a borderline top 50

pick. I think that's rich given a modern NFL defense, but I think he's a legitimate top 100 player in the draft this coming year based on just his play strength and his ability to, you know, to gap and really clog the run lanes. On top of that, just his experience. We ran a lot of really young players last year. Our both of our starting defensive ends or edge defenders were true freshmen. So having beast Carl Loftus is a beast, Jalen Graham, Dante Hunter, like his impact on those guys and just his, uh, his veteran leadership is going to be huge.

Yeah. So from a defensive line perspective, when you look at the fact that Lorenzo Neal's back in George Carl Loftus, who had 17 17 I believe 17 and a half tackles for loss last year and seven and a half sacks absolute animal as a true freshman 270 pounds I mean that's a grown man playing defensive end do you think defensive line is a strength of your defense I think this year it is it's it's going to be interesting with the defensive coordinator change Nick Holt was let go we hired Bob Diaco in the off season. So the big thing is, yes, former Iowa, former Broyles award winner at Notre Dame, former unfortunate head coach of the, uh, the Yukon Huskies. But, um,

we're transitioning from a four, three, four, two, five base to more of a 34, multiple looks similar in vain to what new England and Detroit run where it's a three, four look, but we're going to rush for as often as we rush three. So I think D line is definitely a strength for us. It sure as heck not linebacker. So I think it's, I think it'd have to be defensive line. Fair enough. What about your secondary? Uh, great, good question. A lot of the defenses questions. I'm very excited to watch the game this weekend. We started to, uh, redshirt freshmen or true sophomores last year. We started a lot of young players last year.

So I think Corey Trice played well down the stretch. We picked up a couple transfers. The D-line is definitely the strength. I think the linebacker is probably our worst unit. And then cornerback is maybe, or excuse me, DB is probably a coin flip of, I'm hoping they can be better just by virtue of aging and growing,

but it's a new scheme and it's been a weird off season. So I think we're definitely susceptible to a pass, but we'll have to see how susceptible I guess. Yeah. I feel like the, the matchup of offense versus defense, obviously a big matchup, not even pinpointing specific positions, but Iowa having a new quarterback, Spencer Petras, Brian Barron's kind of in the game against USC in the holiday bowl showed a bunch of things that we typically don't see from Iowa football.

A lot of end arounds, a lot of deception that we talked about with Jeff Brom. And then defensively for Purdue, you have a new coordinator. It's COVID. You have some new guys coming in. It'll be very interesting to see what that matchup looks like. I think, though, that probably favors Iowa. Would you not agree? Iowa, would you not agree? Yeah, I think, I mean, a new quarterback coming into an established system versus a complete new system, you know, on our end with minimal prep time, at least less than less normal. I'd say, yeah, that offense or excuse me, that matchup probably favors you guys, but a quarterback come in with 11 career passes is not a ton of experience. So I am very curious to see how Petras does. Yeah, definitely. And so looking, we talked about a couple of guys,

Lorenzo Neal, George Karloftis, obviously Rondell Moore and David Bell. What is another guy to watch out for from this Purdue team? I mean, those are the guys you think about when you think about the Purdue Boilermakers, but what is one guy who can kind of surprise us on Saturday? Well, Karloftis was unfortunately my answer because I wasn't sure if you'd mention him uh

being you know our best recruit we've basically ever had seven and a half sacks last year i'd say um probably i'd say our other edge rusher jaylen graham is going to be one to watch looking at how diaco's scheme is probably going to line up karloff is going to keep his hand in the dirt as like that strong side edge now we're going to have two really heavy defensive linemen, of which one will be Lorenzo in the middle. So then Jalen Graham and Dante Hunter are going to play kind of that rush outside linebacker where they're going to rush, but they're also going to drop into coverage. He played well last year. I think it's just going to be interesting to keep an eye on him and see how he does adjusting in that new role and how he does both rushing and covering. how he does adjusting in that new role and how he does both rushing and covering. Corey tries is another one.

He was probably our best defensive back last year, but that's not necessarily saying a whole lot, but he had a couple of good interceptions down the stretch. I would say Corey tries probably our best man in the secondary. I love man. Well, you did a great job of answering that question. Despite me putting you on the spot there, I forgot to put Carl at this in the rundown.

So we talked about the defense, talked about the expectations there overall. What is the expectations for Purdue this year? I mean, this is a team that is kind of, they could compete, especially in a big 10 West. I feel like it's pretty wide open, especially with Wisconsin, not having Jack Cone in there, losing some good guys, but produce seemingly is always in that three to five range. What are your, what are your thoughts on this team this year? You took the words right out of my mouth. I think three to five wins is about where I've got this team.

I have been hurt before as a Purdue fan and a Purdue student, so I'm very cautious of getting my hopes too high or too low. Three and five, four and four, five and three. I could see any of those really happening. I think Illinois, Northwestern, and Rutgers should all be pretty easy wins for us. I think Iowa and Wisconsin without Jack Cohn are definitely coin flip games. Indiana, I waffled between putting it as a coin flip game versus one I feel like we can maybe win. I think Minnesota and Nebraska are going to be real tough games for us. So at least

those two in my mind are losses. But like you said man it's the big 10 it's the big 10 west it's the weirdest offseason we've ever had i anything could happen this year i legitimately would not be shocked by any outcome across the board yeah except for ruckers winning man and ruckers winning the east would be freaking crazy yeah that one what actually that's the only thing that could surprise me i don't see that happening in any, you know, permutation of what COVID has been. That doesn't happen. So I'm going to put you on the spot a little bit. I apologize.

But if you had to rank the seven teams in the Big Ten East, or the West, excuse me, how would you rank them? Who would be the toughest? And then go down. Oh, God. Oh, boy. I'm going to say Minnesota is at the top. Then Nebraska.

I'm going to say Minnesota is at the top, then Nebraska, then probably Iowa and Wisconsin right there. And then it's just kind of a hot, then us. Purdue, Northwestern, Illinois at that point. Yeah, I'd say then Purdue, Northwestern, Illinois. Northwestern got Peyton Ramsey, I believe, as a transfer from Indiana, and he played well. So I think that's a decent pickup for them them I think Illinois has to be at the bottom I think Minnesota just based on the talent they have has to be pretty high um but I could easily see Iowa ending up as the second

best team and that easily like without surprise definitely man and then um I didn't ask this but this should you know so as far as Purdue not having fans um in the stands I'm assuming I don't think they have fans in the stands right I don't think they have fans in the stands, right? I don't believe so. I haven't heard anything one way or the other. I've paid too much attention. Yeah, is that a big deal for Purdue? I mean, I'm not familiar with like Purdue having home field advantage.

I mean, you think of home field advantage across the Big Ten. You think of Iowa, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan. I mean, basically half the Big Ten, and then you take out, you know, Purdue, Northwestern, Illinois, those kind of schools. Yeah, I mean, it's going to hurt not having fans. It's always going to hurt not having, you know, the band, the cheerleaders. I'm not sure what they're actually doing with that. But not having the, I think, ballpark attendance is normally around

in that 40,000-ish range out of about 60,000 seats is probably normal, give or take some for a big game, like against Iowa, but it's definitely going to hurt. I don't think it's going to hurt as much as some teams that like truly depend on home field advantage, like Penn state, Michigan, Wisconsin, those like really fearsome atmospheres. Iowa has great fans and a great environment. So I don't think it's going to hurt us much,

but I think everyone it hurts not having that same level of fans. It'll be interesting to see what their department does in terms of piped in crowd noise and trying to maintain that environment or at least a degree of normalcy for the athletes so they can try to compete in a somewhat standard environment. Definitely, man. And final question for you, and obviously I appreciate your time on here. What is your prediction for the game? Man, this one was, I was going back and forth a lot over the last two days, looking at notes, trying to figure out what I thought was reasonable here because I pride myself on being a very reasonable sports fan.

I'm not a homer. That's why I have you on the show. I don't drink the Kool-Aid. Yeah, man, happy to be here and thanks for having me. I love doing this. I think – so Spencer Petras, having only attempted 11 passes in his career and this being a really weird offseason, I think is concerning for your guys' offense, but our defense is also concerning with the same lack of prep time passes in his career, and this being a really weird offseason, I think is concerning for your guys' offense.

But our defense is also concerning with the same lack of prep time and a whole scheme changeover. You guys lost Wirfs, Epinesa, Ojemudia, Geno Stone, Nate Stanley. Like, that's a lot of talent to lose. So I think this is going to be a coin flip game, and I think the coin flip goes very slightly to Purdue because both quarterbacks last year started and played a lot and are back. And every single receiver, four-fifths of the offensive line, all the running backs, all the tight ends, the whole crew is back. So I think that degree of familiarity is going to pay dividends in week one when a lot of teams are still going to be trying to gel. So my gut prediction was 27, 24 Purdue. And that's just the standard coin flip three point home field advantage betting line. But I could easily see us losing by 10 because we don't have Jeff or flipping that around and losing 27,

24 to Iowa, because I think it is truly such a close coin flip of a game with you guys having a good defense and us having a better offense of our two units. So I think it's strength on strength and weakness on weakness in both facets. Yeah. I mean, I couldn't agree more. If I had to pick the only option it wouldn't be, it would be Purdue blowing out Iowa. No chance. That's not a knock on Purdue by any means. I was defense typically to, again, they don't do a good job versus Purdue,

but I would say the only option that's not on the table is Purdue blowing out Iowa. I was personally hoping the spread actually favored Iowa a little bit more – or, sorry, favored Purdue a lot more. When it came out as negative 2.5, I was like, are you kidding me? Like, I was really hoping Iowa was the underdog in this one. I could just take money line and call it good, but it is tough. It's definitely a toss-up game, and I think you're absolutely right. It comes down to which weakness actually overrides each other and which strength can override each other I'm hoping

obviously Iowa is victorious in that I think we're going to see a pretty awesome first game from Spencer Petras and I think that's a good opportunity going against a Purdue defense and I think ultimately the biggest the biggest difference is that Jeff Brom and if Jeff Brom were there I'd be a little bit more worried about the strength on strength battle of Purdue's offense, because even when I was defense is good, it doesn't really matter. Yeah. Chris, I really appreciate having you on the show, man. I'm obviously appreciate you giving us the knowledge of Purdue. You made me a little bit more worried about the Purdue game. Now I'm a,

I don't know what I'm, I, I'm not sure how I'm going to bet that entirely. I'm kind of worried about it. I always worried about Purdue in general, but now I'm actually a little bit more worried knowing the kind of production they are returning. I know last year was an anomaly with the four and eight record given Jeff Brahms kind of rise and whatnot, but thank you for coming on. Where can the folks find you if they want to get some Purdue news, some Oklahoma news, and obviously your quadruple podcast show.

Yeah. So I'm the host of the quadruple option football podcast. You guys can find us on Apple or Spotify. We have Twitter at quad pod football. You guys can follow me at CDJ Shane. I tweet about sports and pretty much nothing else. Yeah, man. I, like I said, I appreciate the plug. I appreciate you letting me on here.

It's fun to talk about some big 10 football with you and the rest of Hawkeye nation. And I would love to come back if we end up playing again in the future. Absolutely, man. Have a good night, buddy. Thanks, you too, man. See ya. All right, and that will conclude our conversation with Chris Shane.

Obviously, a big shout out to him. He was on vacation and wanted to be able to provide you this fantastic content. I think it's important to understand what is going on from the other side's perspective. What is going on behind enemy lines? What can we expect from this weekend's Purdue Boilermaker team, especially with so much uncertainty in the coronavirus time and so much uncertainty with Jeff Brom and whether or not he's going to be coaching?

Clearly, it's going to make an impact. And I really appreciate Chris Shane coming on and talking to us about what to expect for Purdue. So make sure to go follow him. Make sure to go listen to his podcast that he hosts every single week with a couple other fantastic football guys. You're going to love the content they produce as well there. NFL Draft, NFL College Football, all those topics.

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with former Iowa Hawkeye wide receiver Matt Vandenberg. As always, Hawkeye Nation, it's been my pleasure and my honor to deliver you this content on this beautiful Thursday morning. Have a fantastic Thursday, and go Hawks!