Locked On Hawkeyes - Daily Podcast On Iowa Hawkeyes Football & Basketball - Tyrone Tracy ready for a big year, Tory Taylor wants to average how many yards, and Charlie Jones still learning punt returns
Episode Date: April 14, 2021Four Iowa football players spoke to the media yesterday. We break down what they said and what we learned on today's episode from Tyrone Tracy Jr, Tory Taylor, Max Cooper, and Charlie Jones.Support Us... By Supporting Our Sponsors!Built BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKED15,” and you’ll get 15% off your next order.BetOnline AGThere is only 1 place that has you covered and 1 place we trust. Betonline.ag! Sign up today for a free account at betonline.ag and use that promocode: LOCKEDON for your 50% welcome bonus.Rock AutoAmazing selection. Reliably low prices. All the parts your car will ever need. Visit RockAuto.com and tell them Locked On sent you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome back, Hawkeye Nation, to a Wednesday morning episode of the Locked On Hawkeyes Podcast,
your daily podcast covering your Iowa Hawkeyes on the Locked On Sports Network.
As always, I am your host, Andrew Wade, excited to be back for another show today.
And we actually have quite a busy week compared to what we were probably anticipating.
We are getting a lot of press time with Iowa football players.
We also get some press time with Fran McCaffrey.
We have three assistant coaches that we're going to be listening to and hearing from
on tomorrow's show.
We also have Fran McCaffrey we're going to be hearing from on tomorrow's show as well.
On today's show, we had an opportunity to hear from Tori Taylor, Charlie Jones, Max
Cooper, and Tyrone Tracy Jr., so we're going to be breaking down what we heard from them.
If we have any time, we'll finally wrap up our spring positional preview, but I have
a feeling we will not.
We also got a new mock draft from Dane Brugler of the
athletic and definitely some interesting things there as well so we'll try to get to that too
before we're getting any of that I know we haven't talked about any of the other programs
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Now, that being said, sorry, I want to get into the show. We heard from Tori Taylor, Charlie Jones, Max Cooper,
and Tyrone Tracy Jr. Honestly, Tyrone Tracy is just a phenomenal listen to. Did a really great
job of being incredibly open. I thought all the guys did as well. But let's get into what Tori
Taylor said first. What I thought was really interesting, as well. But let's get into what Torrey Taylor said first.
What I thought was really interesting, my big takeaway from Torrey is,
and we've heard about this a lot,
is the fact that he really doesn't know American football very well.
He is still so young and still, from a football perspective,
learning so much.
One of the things he said that I thought was really interesting, though,
was that he was very happy with being all Big Ten, but he didn't reach any of his statistical goals.
That took me by surprise a bit because he had some of the best punting statistics we've seen in quite a long time in Iowa Hawkeye history.
And good enough statistics to make him a Ray Guy Award nominee.
So to me, I would love to see him reach his statistical goals.
He mentioned being able to average 45 yards.
Now, averaging 45 yards is not everything, right?
You've got to worry about your hang time.
You've got to be able to worry about directional punting.
But still, 45 yards is very solid.
And what we saw from Torrey this past year is that he's able to control that hang time a bit.
But one of the things he's been working on quite a bit, they asked him about this,
going into this offseason, what are you trying to improve on?
And he said his spiral punting.
Now, for those of you who are not super familiar with punting,
spiral punting is really a traditional way of punting that we've seen a lot
of American punters use post-college NFL type of punting and the reason why you want to do that is
the ball travels faster and farther he was only able to hit one last season but it can be a bit
different because that's not necessarily how he learned but being able to add that to his arsenal
can make it even more difficult for punt returners to be able to field his ball if they're
not sure how the ball is going to be coming to him where it's going to be hit from that kind of thing
so that was really interesting to me again the fact that he has such high goals for himself and
he hasn't hit those he also mentioned that he learned that the ball doesn't travel as far in
colder weather definitely a good learning experience That was one of the reasons why Michael Sleep Dalton wanted to come to Iowa. He wanted to punt in bad weather. He wanted to show
NFL scouts that he could do that because in Arizona State, you don't get that opportunity
nearly as much. He got a question about whether or not he was comfortable throwing the ball.
or not he was comfortable throwing the ball.
And he basically said, I don't want to give too much away.
But he feels more comfortable throwing the ball than what he used to.
So that'll be interesting to see how they could utilize Torrey in fake punt situations.
This past season, you know, his freshman year, a lot of his punting opportunities, it's very clear he was going to punt the ball.
There was really no ifs, ands, or buts.
You can't really, with a guy who's never played American football, do a lot of his punting opportunities, it was very clear he was going to punt the ball. There was really no ifs, ands, or buts. You can't really, with a guy who's never played American football,
do a lot of fake things when you just really want him to kick the ball
as far as he possibly can and just ride with it.
So being in year two, what kind of new things,
what kind of new wrinkles can they install in the game?
Now that being said, what I think is interesting about that is
when you typically use fake punts, it is to flip momentum. It's to flip
the script. It's to get that first down and keep the offense on the field. I would argue that
Torrey Taylor does a pretty good job of changing momentum just with his punts. We saw several times
Palmer Turner's not being able to field his ball and creating fumble opportunities for our special
teams unit to collect those
fumbles and actually give us even better field position so to me that's really interesting to
see what they ultimately decide to do in that front because of how good of a job he does with
changing momentum just by punting the ball which is something you don't typically see from punters
he also said he's really excited to see the fans he's not not really nervous but also told the
reporter to ask him on that day but he's really excited to be punting he's not not really nervous but also told the reporter to ask him on
that day but he's really excited to be punting in front of fans he noted that you know a lot of fans
don't like seeing the punter come on the field but what I don't think he realizes is that Iowa fans
are a bit unique and a bit different and we love our good special teams and we love even more big
time special teams plays so that will be a lot of fun he also mentioned he talked a little
bit about the two situations where he really kind of screwed up a bit because he didn't know
American football running on the field to celebrate and that Wisconsin game you know trying to kick
the ball off the ground he meant he basically said I never try to put the team in a bad situation
he said with the Charlie touchdown he was just so excited Charlie's one of his best friends and his
housemates and he was just so excited for him scoring that touchdown he just
couldn't contain himself um until he got you know yelled out to come back so uh overall just a funny
funny guy to listen to you just um it's refreshing to hear a guy who just is playing the game and
enjoying every moment that comes at him and you know doesn't doesn't exactly realize all that he's doing
and how impressive it is.
I think that makes it even more impressive that he's able to do that
without really completely understanding all the things that he is doing
and what his impact is on the game.
But Torrey Taylor, fun to talk to.
I don't know if it's something down in the water, down under,
but love to hear from him.
Love talking to Michael Sleep Dalton.
We've had Michael Sleep Dalton on the program a couple times,
and he's always a fantastic talk to.
Always very open and very willing to share with us,
so always loved that.
Hopefully we can get Torrey on the call someday as well,
talking to him about punting and his journey to here,
to America as well, to kick at Iowa.
So all that being said, coming up on segment number two,
we'll get into Charlie Jones and Max Cooper
and then wrap it up with Tyrone Tracy Jr.
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Now, we also heard from three wide receivers, Charlie Jones, Max Cooper, and Tyrone Tracy Jr.
Charlie Jones and Max Cooper didn't give a ton of information.
I thought they were very PC in their answers, didn't really divulge too many details.
Charlie got a lot of questions, though, about other people, which I thought was really interesting.
Did get asked about the difference between catching punts from Torrey Taylor and other punters.
And he said it is great practice getting Torrey Taylor punts.
Nobody is punting as high or as far as him, so it's really quality reps.
And they asked about, you know,
is there a lot of difference between the directional punting?
And Charlie basically said wherever he wants to put it, he's putting it.
So basically putting to rest any questions about how well Torrey can directionally punt.
One of the things that actually I thought was the most interesting was
when Charlie said last year was
the first time he had really done any punt returns so each week he was just building confident and
going into the season needing to consistently build upon that confidence and that he's now
also been working as a kick returner for a guy who hadn't been returning punts before
what he did last year was pretty darn impressive and he had some pretty big balls for having not returned
punts he was catching some punts and guys were right on top of him so he even mentioned that
being able to field those punts with confidence I thought he did a great job so if that was him
not playing as confident as he thinks he can be I'm interested to see what Charlie Jones as a
confident punt returner could be like considering he was all Big Ten
last year. They also asked a couple questions about the difference between the MAAC and the
Big Ten. Really the only thing he said that was different was the fact that week to week you're
going up against a good school and a good team so there's really no letdown at any point which I
thought was you know makes sense but nothing too revolutionary there in his his talk there.
The last thing is he did mention the fact that Keegan and
Arlen specifically have been doing a great job in practice. He did mention the second and third
year guys are also doing well, but to call out Keegan and Arlen by name means they truly are
performing well in practice. And you'll hear Max and Tyrone also said very complimentary things
about Keegan and Arlen. Again, the Charlie thing, the biggest takeaway here is that he's getting some great reps from Torrey,
being a housemate, being a good friend.
And he wasn't very confident in punt returning because he hadn't really done it until this year.
So I'm really excited to see what he can do.
Sounds like he's also going to have a pretty big role in the Iowa offensive attack,
not just the special teams attack.
So I'm excited to see what Charlie Jones can do as a slot receiver.
Again, I made this quote, or I basically made this take on the wide receiver spring positional preview,
but I think Charlie Jones could catch 50 balls this season
if Spencer Petras' accuracy is as good as Tyrone Tracy says it is.
Now moving on to Max Cooper.
Max is an interesting guy.
Returns for a sixth year
because he had that ability to do so with the new rules in place this past year with COVID.
He's had quite a few injuries. He even mentioned it. An ACL tear, another meniscus tear, and a
pulled hamstring in quarantine last year that never really healed. He's been dealing with a lot.
Now when you look at that wide receiver room, I talked a little bit about
Max Cooper and the fact that he got playing time early. They've seen him on the field, and Iowa
does like to rotate four, five, six guys on the field at that wide receiver position. We've also
had injuries in the past. Brandon Smith didn't play a full season two years ago. Amir Smith-Marset
wouldn't have played a full season this past year had Iowa had their last two games.
He also got suspended for a game.
So I'm not expecting anyone to necessarily get suspended, but injuries happen.
You're going to see a lot of guys get playing time.
And Iowa does like guys who have that experience, who have that wherewithal within that offense and understand the offense perfectly.
Max Cooper, a guy who got playing time as a freshman, has him battling injuries.
He would be a fantastic story to see him get some playing time this year
and come away with a few more catches than he has had in the past.
He said as far as why he came back, though,
he said with all the injuries that he's had in the past,
it's a bit easier to come back.
And he brings a lot of experience to the room.
He's the most experienced wide receiver in the room.
Outside of him is Tyrone Tracy and Nico Reganey.
I mean, those guys have been in the program for a bit now,
but Max Cooper has been there for quite some time
and is able to be really a mentor and a leader for a lot of guys.
And he did mention two guys who have a great chance of being contributing members of the offense
is Arlen and Keegan.
And the fact that they're learning the offense quicker than him.
And Max was able to get on the field as a freshman so as we all know you could be the most athletic explosive player on the Iowa team but if you don't know the offense if you
don't know the defense if you don't know the playbook if you're not doing some of the right
things especially as a wide receiver like blocking you're not going to get on the field and so the
fact that he feels like they're learning the offense very quickly
and he has that relative knowledge of how quickly he learned it
and he was able to get on the field.
Now granted the wide receiver depth at those times is definitely different,
but that's really exciting to see, really exciting to see
some of those younger guys step up.
Arlen and Keegan, as we've kind of talked about before on the show,
they have a good opportunity to get some playing time this year. But really what I'm excited about is how they fit
into this offense in two to three years. They could be very explosive athletes. And the more
they can push those guys, the better this wide receiver group is going to be for Iowa. We also
got a couple of questions about the weight room sessions um and the difference between you
know coach brainwave and uh you know doyle he just mentioned that you know the basically the
main thing is you're still trying to get better every single day and he thought he thought ray
has really stepped it up and done a phenomenal job um he said he has a really good relationship
with everyone on the team and that when he gets on you it's just constructive criticism
and that he's very well respected amongst the team now this question has been asked to several players now that they've had a full offseason under ray
as opposed to doyle and everyone kind of does a pretty good job of answering it in a very PC way
but one of the things i've noticed the most that keeps coming out of everyone's mouth is how ray
is a people person i would say a players coach is what you'd probably want to call that.
He is relatable to players.
He can talk to the players.
He understands the players.
And he doesn't just immediately get mad at them
or immediately yell at them or get on them.
He understands how to work with them to get the right results.
So a little bit different of an approach, it sounds like.
And we're going to hear that from Tyrone Tracy as well.
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Now, the last person we heard from yesterday was Tyrone Tracy Jr.,
and Tyrone's expected to have a big time role in this offense.
I actually mentioned him as a guy who I'm really excited to watch
because what we saw from Tyrone when Brandon Smith went down was truly exciting.
Now, his performance dipped quite a bit this past year,
but I would argue that has nothing to do with Tyrone
and everything to do with the quarterback position.
And he actually even talked about that a little bit.
Again, what I mentioned coming into the show,
Tyrone very open about what he kind of goes through,
what his thoughts are,
and I loved his willingness to discuss that.
As a redshirt freshman in 2019,
he caught 36 balls for 589 yards,
averaged 16.4 yards per catch,
and had three touchdowns,
six rushing attempts for 39 yards.
Now, in a shorter season, he had 14 catches for 154 yards and 11 yard per catch average.
Even if you double that, right?
So he played 14 games.
He still only caught 28 catches, 28 balls for 300 yards.
A significant reduction in his production.
And when he talked a bit about that he mentioned about how
difficult it was initially for him to be able to handle that he said last year to do a lot of
self-talk after coming off that semi-good season but his year didn't go the way he wanted to
what he realized that at the end of the day you just have to think about what you're doing to
make the team better and that if you're blocking 100 times a game
and that's what you've got to do to make the team better,
then you have to do it.
And he said that Coach Cope basically told him that he needs to lead the group
and that everything else will come to him when he does that.
And I think that would be tough.
For a guy who essentially had a breakout season as a redshirt freshman,
you expect to improve your role in that offense going into your sophomore year as we all
kind of did and unfortunately due to lackluster quarterback play and an inconsistent offense he
wasn't able to do that we saw everyone's production slip last year while playing with Spencer Petras
now the good thing about that is he did mention the growth of Spencer he said Spencer wasn't super
accurate last year now he is putting balls on the money.
He has more respect and is acting like he knows what he is doing. He is leading the whole offense,
not just the quarterbacks and the wide receivers. So that's exciting. That's exciting for the
offense. That's exciting for Tyrone. We've heard that consistently from every player coming out of
spring camp. Now, whether or not we see that correspond to his on-field play,
I think will be very interesting. We did not get a chance to see Spencer play in the spring last
year. So we didn't, we don't have anything to compare it to, right? We don't have anyone saying,
yeah, Spencer's struggling, but he's working on it, right? We just have nothing to compare it to
at this point. But the hype coming into last season was pretty significant. I thought people
were pretty excited about Spencer coming out of the Iowa football program.
They were very excited about Spencer.
But to me, what we saw in the fall seems like that's what people had been seeing for quite a while with Spencer
was the lack of accuracy based on the fact that they're willing to talk about it like it is just the norm.
Now, Nate Stanley had problems with accuracy as well, but what we saw fromencer was significantly worse um this past season a lot of receivers getting very frustrated it sounds like
tyrone was frustrated sounds like you know we saw a mirror specifically be very frustrated as well
so that to me is very interesting that tyrone is very openly able to share that and talk about that
but again the fact that spencer is doing better was huge in his opinion and he's excited to see what he can do this upcoming year he also mentioned you know he's
he doesn't really care about the personal stats or the personal awards again he said the first
main thing is being a great leader on the team and on the offense but you know his goal is to do
better than 13 catches in 100 yards and he said hopefully he can get that in one game and I have
no doubt in my mind with Tyrone Tracy's yak ability,
he can definitely get over 100 yards in the game.
Whether or not there's enough balls to be spread around to get him 13 catches will definitely be interesting, but he has some amazing yak ability.
That's evident by the fact that he averaged 16.4 yards per catch
as a redshirt freshman.
He is going to be the leader of this offense,
and that's one of the reasons why I'm not as concerned about the fact that we lose Amir Smith-Marset and a Brandon Smith those are two
big-time losses but what you're doing to replace them is you're bringing a guy like Tyrone Tracy
Jr. with the ball in his hands can be just absolutely dynamic maybe not as pure of straight
line speed as Amir Smith-Marset but truly a great ball in his hands type of guy with great yak
ability he also mentioned that he still needs to get better at blocking and contested catches. We don't have a guy like that currently on the
offense as far as we are aware for contested catches and having him be able to go up and
grab some balls will be really good for helping Spencer's confidence and also improving that
relationship between the two. He also got asked the question a lot about what has been the
difference between the coaching styles of Ray and Chris Doyle. And he said, Raymond is more calm. He
doesn't yell a lot. He understands that he doesn't have to yell to get his point across. He lets the
leaders on the team take action. He has the team hold each other accountable and help each other.
And each one teach one or each one reach one is really the main phrase that he mentioned.
And that nothing really has changed in the weight room, but he is taking it definitely a different
approach.
And I think, again, that goes back to, and I don't want to keep getting into the Doyle thing, but these questions keep coming up and I think it is important to talk about
the differences between the two.
It seems like Doyle was more of a yeller, a yell first, ask questions never.
And Ray is more of a ask questions first, second, third, figure out what's going on
and make sure you understand what is going on.
So I actually equate it to,
do you ever have those two parents,
one is a yeller, one is a, you know,
I'm a disappointed in you kind of guy?
The one you want to piss off the least
is the one who is disappointed in you, right?
At a certain point, if you yell all the time,
it loses your effectiveness when yelling. But a guy who was
disappointed in you or a mom or dad who was disappointed in you, that actually hurts more,
in my opinion. That has always hurt more. And so that to me is very interesting. It seems like
that's really what they're kind of getting at. Doyle seemed like a guy who was going to yell
at you if you did anything wrong, not trying to understand your point of view. Whereas Raymond
is going to listen to you, but also give you that stern talking to have like, here's what I don't like. And then
also rely on, rely on the development program that Iowa has in place. Iowa has some phenomenal
leaders. They have a great leadership culture built in place with their team. And these guys
come in there, they, they've recruited them for a specific reason. They recruited them because they
know they can play that position. And because they know they can become leaders in there. They've recruited them for a specific reason. They've recruited them because they know they can play that position and because they know they can become leaders in Iowa. You have to trust
those guys to be able to make the other guys do a better job when the coaches aren't looking. And I
think that has been really evident by what the players have said so far about Coach Ray. So that
does it. We're able to, again, listen to four players. We got three coaches coming up tomorrow
and Fran McCaffrey.
So really excited about listening to them and giving you the thoughts on that.
We have that mock draft from Dane that I want to touch on as well.
We need to wrap up our spring positional preview.
So that's all coming up on a couple episodes of the show this week.
Again, thank you all for tuning in.
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