Locked On Hawkeyes - Daily Podcast On Iowa Hawkeyes Football & Basketball - What's it like to play in the Horseshoe? Iowa Football wrinkles off the bye & Picks

Episode Date: October 21, 2022

Trent Condon is joined by former Hawkeye running back and Ohio native LeShun Daniels in the latest edition of the Locked on Hawkeyes Podcast.They talk about LeShun growing up in Ohio as the son of a former Buckeye and what it was like to not ultimately get an offer from Ohio State. Then they talk about the experience in playing at the Horseshoe and how loud the stadium is.Then they go back to the last time that Iowa was in Columbus, 2013. Iowa had a fresh game plan using 3 tight ends and it worked pretty well for the Hawks. What wrinkles can we expect from Iowa this week?Finally the guys make their picks for the week for all the big games including Ohio State hosting the Hawkeyes.Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors! SweatBlock If you or someone you love is experiencing embarrassing sweat or odor try Sweatblock. Save 20% with promo codeLocked On at sweatblock.com. Also available on Amazon. LinkedIn LinkedIn jobs helps you find the candidates you want to talk to, faster. Post your job for free at Linkedin.com/lockedoncollege Terms and conditions apply. Built Bar Built Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKEDON15,” and you’ll get 15% off your next order. BetOnline BetOnline.net has you covered this season with more props, odds and lines than ever before. BetOnline – Where The Game Starts! Upside Download the FREE Upside App and use promo code Locked to get $5 or more cash back on your first purchase of $10 or more. Underdog Fantasy Sign up on underdogfantasy.com with the promo code LOCKED ON and get your first deposit doubled up to $100! SimpliSafe With Fast Protect™️ Technology, exclusively from SimpliSafe, 24/7 monitoring agents capture evidence to accurately verify a threat for faster police response. There’s No Safe Like SimpliSafe. Visit SimpliSafe.com/LockedOnCollege to learn more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On today's Locked On Hawkeyes podcast, I'm Trent Codd and LaShawn Daniels with me. We'll talk about what it's like to experience the horseshoe as Iowa prepares for their matchup against Ohio State. With the bye week, what changes, if any, can we anticipate? We'll talk about LaShawn and implementation of some different wrinkles, and we'll make our picks all presented by BetOnline. That's coming up on today's Locked On Hawkeyes podcast. Our Locked On Hawkeyes, your daily podcast on the Iowa Hawkeyes. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. He's LaShawn Daniels.

I'm Trent Condon. This is the Locked On Hawkeyes podcast. Thanks for being here. Locked On Hawkeyes, your first listen each and every day. Available wherever you get podcasts. You can also see us on YouTube. And while you're there, if you're on YouTube, we'd really appreciate if you hit that subscribe

button. Hit it right now and help us out as we continue to grow our community here with the Locked On Network. Today's episode is brought to you by Underdog. Sign up on underdogfantasy.com with promo code LOCKEDON and get your first deposit doubled up to $100. Well, an important week for you, certainly, LaShawn, as we look at things. Your dad played at Ohio State. You're an Ohio guy. The offer never came from the Buckeyes, and

you know, a guy going kind of through the similar circumstances here is Luke Lachey. His dad was an All-American at Ohio State. He went to camp hoping to get that offer. His dad is a radio broadcaster, the color commentator on the Buckeye Network. It has been for better than a quarter century now, but that offer never came. I want to start right there with you. For an Ohio guy, the importance of it, and ultimately when that offer didn't come, and with your family connections, how tough was that? Yeah, I mean, it's definitely not easy.

Obviously, moving away, it's, it's definitely, uh, not easy. Um, I obviously like moving away from that reality. Like, yeah, I'm not actually going to be an Ohio State Buckeye. Cause I mean, as it is, I mean, uh, when you're in that family, if you got family that went to Ohio State or you're from Ohio, like it's literally like, it's hard to explain it to people, but like, it's really, really like it's Ohio state or, or bus. Honestly, like at that point, like, that's what it like feels like. Right. I mean, it's Ohio state, everything like Saturdays are planned around, you know, Ohio state football games, all these different things. Um, and like, yeah, obviously you see that growing up and you're like, like, man, like I'd love to play there. Right.

You know, obviously they got great tradition. Um, it's always a fantastic football team. Um, so it's like one of those things where it's like yeah you definitely want to do it especially like when you come from a family like when uh you know you have uh family members that played there like or else for example right like my dad played there right so it was something that was like growing up uh it was something you wanted to be a part of right because we were always around. We always come back for games, spring games, right, being around the complex and all these different things. So it's definitely a mindset shift, though, like as you're getting recruited in high school and you're obviously like you're still pushing to get recruited from there and get the offer from there but you know once you know it comes to that time you make your decision and the offer doesn't come it's like okay now i got

a shift on mindset like hey i'm going to the center school so i'm going to iowa right and you know when we do get the opportunity to play the book guys right you want to make them make them feel you you want to make them feel like man like we should have been able to keep like this homegrown talent so Lachey will be going through that this week you went through it now your brother was a little bit different because he had an Ohio State offer right yeah yeah he had one he had one and they they recruited him very very hard all the way to the end very very tough so all the way to the end um basically all the way through signing day but uh you know he stuck with it he stuck with with iowa and you know for him right it did i guess it didn't it didn't matter

to him like he like i mean he loved ohio state like growing up but um you know he was just like man i'm gonna try to play football at iowa with my brother so your brother's just your brother's a different cat we got to get him out of here sometime. I would love to talk to him. He just puts a smile on my face just seeing him, you know, watching that. And, you know, I think back of what bowl game was that when he was up there sitting in the crowd.

He just got smiling ear to ear. It seems like James is a little bit different than you are, wired a little bit differently. Yeah, yeah. He's definitely a different dude. I'll ask him one one of these days i think they have a bye week in a couple maybe like a week or two um and i'll ask him to see if he wants to come on uh but yeah yeah he's definitely a different different guy definitely a lot more

outgoing than i am uh you know he he loves he loves getting attention sometimes, pretty much any way he can. But, yeah, he's definitely a fiery guy, has a bunch of energy. And, yeah, definitely does put a smile on a bunch of people's faces whenever he's around them, right, because he's just kind of that, like, goofy kind of guy. Well, we talked about this a little bit last week with you, LaShawn, and going back to that 2013 game. Look, I've been to a bunch of the Big Ten stadiums, everything except for the new ones, Rutgers and Maryland.

I've been to an Alabama-Tennessee game down at Brian Denny. That was when the big Mount Cody blocked two field goals as they held on on their way to their first national championship under Saban. I've been to environments all across the country. I've been to great ones. There's something about the horseshoe, though. It's different the way that the sound really is capped in there. Michigan Stadium, people, I think, are surprised by this. It's not that loud. Certainly in comparison when you're thinking

110,000 people, it's not that loud of a stadium, at least the times that I've been to Michigan Stadium. Now, it also has helped that Iowa kicked the crap out of them both times I've been there. So that also helps a little bit too. But I've been to Ohio State. I was there in 2005. Iowa had drilled them in 2004. Ohio State, it was hair on fire. They came out from the get-go. Drew Tate could get anything going. He ended up spiking the football after getting sacked at one point.

It was an ugly game. And they talked a lot about the year previous and using that as motivation. I was there at the de facto championship game in 2009. Came down to the wire, went to overtime. So I've been there for big environments, but for you, for guys on the field, yes, being on the road is difficult in its own right. What makes outside of the talent on the field for Ohio state, what else makes the horseshoe so difficult? Yeah. It is very, very, very loud. Especially like if you're on the opposite end of the open horseshoe park because obviously it's not quite as loud down there because obviously like it's a little bit

open um a little more space but if you're on the opposite side it is very very loud it makes just communicating with each other like even in the huddle very very difficult and they stay that way the entire game right like these guys obviously they they love their ohio state football there um i mean because everyone in ohio is essentially a buckeye right so um they pack that stadium every single week no matter it doesn't matter it doesn't matter who they're playing right they'll be playing at fcs school they'll pack it at least for the first half right and then for big 10 games, they keep it loud the entire time. They don't make it easy on you at any point in time in their game. Right.

So you have to make sure that your communication is really on point and you've got good signals and everyone's getting the signals and you're not getting rattled. No, not only by, you know, their talented players on the field, right? Because, I mean, you know, they're going to have, they have one of the most talented football teams in college football every single year. So you're already going to be trying to deal with that. And then now you're trying to make sure you're keeping, you know, communication on point and make sure everyone's on the right page. Because now if you get out there and people are on different pages for things, right,

it's only going to make that talent gap during a play like that much more difficult. Right. So that that stadium with that noise is very, very difficult to be in. But all that said, right, like if you're able to communicate and, you know, keep everyone on the same page, you know, it does make it easier for you to have success on the football field. And if you can create some big plays, right, that definitely helps a bunch. Right. But then again, Ohio State very, very rarely loses at home. Right. I mean, to whenever they do lose at home, part of it is because, you know, teams were able to create explosive plays on their side of the ball. Right. And quiet the crowd down a little bit. because teams were able to create explosive plays on their side of the ball, right,

and quiet the crowd down a little bit. Like you think back to that Oregon game the other year, last year, right, where Oregon was able to create some big explosive plays, right, and kind of took the crowd out of it a little bit. And then obviously Ohio State made some mistakes offensively and then allowed them to get that victory there. But it's very, very rare. And it makes it not easy to play, especially in Big Ten play,

because it seems like whenever Ohio State gets in Big Ten play and they're at home, like they're a totally different football team. Well, Iowa's coming off a bye week, unfortunately. At least a little bit of a help. So is Ohio State going into this one. We'll talk about what wrinkles we could possibly see from this one. We go back to the last time they played in the horseshoe. The Hawkeyes did. LaShawn was on that team.

They came out with a lot of three tight end sense, did something a little bit different. We'll talk about that. What can we expect from the Hawkeyes? That's as we continue. This is Locked On Hawkeyes Podcast. podcast. This episode is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy, the easiest place to college football season. We're talking a fantasy way of looking at things with college football here. You're taking a look at a couple of the big matchups this weekend. Let's talk about this Iowa Ohio State. What do you got? 175 yards passing for Spencer Petras.

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What kind of wrinkles are in there? You guys had some wrinkles of your own in 2013, that three tight end stat. So I want to start right there, going back and remembering that game. Is that something that you guys, you know, had worked on? Was it a big part of the playbook and just nothing that you guys had used very often?

Kind of take us through in that decision by Greg Davis Davis and we're going to try something a little bit different here against Ohio State yeah so obviously yeah and being a big big game plan thing and um something like we had it like installed it um you know earlier that that that year but it just wasn't something um that was ever really a big part of our game plan right we didn't use it at all um and then going into ohio state week well we know as you ohio state always has crazy crazy talent all over the field right especially um you know at on defense they're usually their strongest positions are defensive end or edge rushers and their defensive backs, right? And knowing that, right, like you want to create mismatches as much as possible, even when you're going against a super talented team like the Buckeyes, right?

So we know that typically, right, we have really, really good tight ends. And I mean, that year, again, we had some fantastic tight ends, right? Like we had CJ, we had Doozy, right, we have really, really good tight ends. And, I mean, that year, again, we had some fantastic tight ends, right? Like we had CJ, we had Doozy, right? We had a bunch of tight ends that were able to create plays in the passing game, right? So you want to be able to get all those guys on the football field. So that's where we came out and were able to use the three tight end sets. And we had a bunch of success, you know, with that. And just trying to take advantage of where we may be able to create some mismatches.

Right. And we were able to do so in that football game. So with the bye week, you know, as a staff right there, definitely looking at everything, see looking offensively, like where can we create, you know, mismatches against this Ohio State football team. And this Ohio State defense is really, really good, right? I think they're like a top 10 defense this year. So, I mean, that's, there's not going to be a very bunch of mismatches, you know, on the football field for our offense offense so um but all that said

they are going to try to find some wrinkles and try to you know at least you would hope right honing on things that that they can do best and try to get the hand the football in the hands of their best playmakers because that's what it's going to take to beat this Ohio State football team. And, you know, we tried to do some of the same things back in 2013. And then obviously we saw it back in 2017. Right. We were able to use the tight ends very, very well in that game as well. Right. Obviously, you had, you know, big plays from from Big Nate in that game. But, yeah, tight ends is typically, you know, our strong suits. And it's usually where we can create mismatches against the Ohio State Buckeyes.

But this year with this defense, it's going to be a lot more difficult to do so. But they're definitely obviously they're going to have to cook something up because if they come out there and just, you know, a base offense, right, it's going to be a long, long day for our Hawks. So yeah, this is a different Buckeye team, how explosive they are. I think they've scored touchdowns in 30 of their last 38 drives. I mean, just think of that. These are just asinine numbers. And the Hawkeye defense is good, no doubt, but this is going to be something completely different. They haven't got a

great pass rush to this point. The Hawkeyes at this point in the season, I think that we kind of hope for. That's something they're definitely going to have to do. They have to make Stroud uncomfortable. They can't let them just be, you know, rolling out, being standing tall in the pocket, setting his feet, doing those kinds of things. It's a tall, tall task, but defense has got to come to play. And ultimately, if I was going to move the football luck to expect them to go up and down the field, that's not realistic. To think this is going to be like 2017. We just see that there's too many issues with this offense right now for that to be a possibility.

Can he get a couple of drives? Can he get a short field and actually punch it in, get a touchdown? That's your only chance of even staying on the field and not getting blown away here. And ultimately, you talk about playmakers. I still maintain Iowa's biggest playmaker is Caleb Johnson. This is the one hey an ohio kid like you trading wheels are off here you go you get your shot against the buck guys

here's 20 touches let's see what happens yeah i mean uh obviously i would love to see him you know get the ball bunch whether it be you know in the run game or in the past game right obviously he's done he's been able to create you know some explosive plays and a few opportunities uh you know that he's had this year and that um offense has had right so to be to to even stay competitive in a game like this right he's going to need to get the football bunch right as well as lishan right he's going to have to be able to contribute as well right and um you know possibly possibly create some explosive plays. But, yeah, it's not going to be an easy task.

It's not going to be an easy task because, again, they've got speed all over the field, right? We know that their defensive backs are going to be – that's going to be a very, very strong suit against them, against our receivers, right? So to expect the receivers to go out there and, know just have a crazy game would be it would be silly to think that but it would be awesome if it happened but yeah i mean um caleb sean um our tight ends right they're gonna have to be big in this football game um for us to be able to keep it competitive um and you know we hope that hope that we can see some of that on Saturday because, yeah, with the ball in their hands, right,

they're explosive football players. All right, LaShawn. With that, we have a tall task in front of us. We got to make our picks for this week. It's a huge number. It has stayed just over four times all throughout the week. It was 30 earlier in the week. There was a little bit of buyback that came back after that and then moved back down in that

29 range. So that's where it is here today as we talk on a Friday afternoon. We're going to make our picks as we continue. This is the Locked On Hawkeyes podcast. All right, LaShawn, wrapping things up with our picks for the week. So we pick five games against the spread each and every week. Of course, the Iowa game, that is also a part of it. So let's get rolling here and let's kick things off. Let's go first to the Big Ten. Penn State, after that loss against Michigan where the Wolverines just absolutely clobbered them, they play host to Minnesota, who's reeling themselves after back-to-back losses.

Number is four and a half. What do you got? Minnesota getting four and a half, and it's going to be a whiteout at State College. Yeah. You know, this is a tough game for Minnesota. I mean, to head into Penn State, right, Beaver Stadium, and during a whiteout, right, it's not going to be easy, right? I see Penn State kind of really got dominated for most of that Michigan game last week, and obviously going to be looking to bounce back.

We know that Minnesota has kind of fallen off over the past few weeks. Now that hasn't looked anywhere near as strong as they did in the first couple of weeks. And, you know, with that line as small as it is, I don't really see Minnesota being able to keep it that close at the end. I think they'll keep it close early, but I think ultimately Penn State will end up pulling away in that one. This comes down to Tanner Morgan. Tanner Morgan, who has not been the same guy that he was early in his career, but if he's not able to go, I think he has a concussion issue he's going through. Minnesota has no chance. I have read though that they hope to have him out there. The way that Penn State was just bullied by Michigan

last week. And what does Minnesota do? They run the football incredibly well. Mo Ibrahim is back. He's run the football well, even in a losing effort the last couple of weeks here. I think this is going to be just a touch tighter. I'm going to grab the points here. Give me Minnesota plus the four and a half. All right, pick number two at our bet online picks. We go next to the Big 12. Kansas State goes to TCU. The Battle of the Purple, the Wild 12. Kansas State goes to TCU. The Battle of the Purple, the Wildcats are getting three and a half. This is one of my favorite bets of the week.

I bet on this right away. In fact, I got the number a little bit higher earlier in the week. I'm all about Kansas State. What is it, TCU? They're one of the most explosive teams in the country. What does Kansas State do? They stop explosive plays. Chris Kleiman, that team is fundamentally sound. I think this is the first time we see TCU really struggle offensively this year.

I'm going to grab the points. Give me the Wildcats. Yeah, this is a tough one. This is a tough one because obviously, like, both these teams are playing phenomenal football right now. TCU has been, let's see, fantastic offensively. And same thing with Kansas State, right? Now, TCU has been, let's see, fantastic offensively. And same thing with Kansas State, right? Like, you know, I think they've been a pleasant surprise in the Big 12 this year.

But all that said, right, I feel like TCU is a very, very strong football team right now. And they haven't really shown any signs of slowing down. And, again, with this line, I think as close as it is, granted, Kansas State has played big in their games up to this point this year. But same thing with TCU, right? TCU's been battle-tested, right? And they've pulled it out every single time. And I feel like that's going to continue, especially being at home,

giving TCU the points. Going with TCU.cu all right opposite sides on our first two picks we'll get a little separation this week let's go to the pack 12 game day is going to be there oregon favored by six and a half against ucla you get to leave this one off yeah so uh i wasn't a big believer in u, honestly, like the end of the year and even early throughout the season. Like I was like, you know, UCLA, you know, they're pulling up points. Right. But, you know, can they actually stop anyone up to this point? It hasn't really mattered. Like it really hasn't hasn't mattered. They haven't been able to stop anyone. Right. Because their offense has been so, so dynamic. And I feel like that is going to continue on Saturday against Oregon.

But that said, Oregon has played much, much better football after their first game against Georgia, right? I mean, any team coming off a long offseason, playing a team like that for the first game is going to be a difficult, difficult task. So all that said, I still feel like the game is going to be a difficult, difficult task. So all that said, I still feel like the game is going to be closer than that line suggests. So give me UCLA to cover.

But as far as who comes out on top of the end, I have no idea. I think it's going to be a good game. I do too. I'm really excited for this one. I love the contrast, the styles and Chip Kelly going back to where, you know, things really got started up for him. He got the different uniform combinations. Of course, the, just the standard, beautiful UCLA jerseys going up against whatever wild concoction Oregon comes up with. I'm really excited for this one. I think it's going to be fun. Ultimately for me, I just can't lay more than a touchdown with Bo Nix in a big game. I just can't feel comfortable with it. So we're going to jump aboard together. We've got a family play here, and we'll both be on UCLA. Pick number four, the Battle of Orange this time. We had the Battle of Purple earlier.

Syracuse goes on the road undefeated against undefeated Clemson. I was very hopeful that we see DJ Ugulele turn it around this year, and he certainly has. He has been outstanding. Still a little bit robotic running the football at times. He just such a big behemoth out there running around and making plays, but he has really developed on top of it as a pastor. It's a guy that we saw two years ago when Trevor Lawrence was out against Notre Dame and what we saw during his freshman campaign. Syracuse is a nice story. Schrader, the transfer quarterback for Mississippi State he's

improved as a passer this is just a different animal here I'm going to lay it I know Syracuse they knocked off a good Clemson team one other time had him on the ropes another here under Dino Babers I don't see that being the case here I got Clemson big I'll lay the two touchdowns yeah so this is another interest this is another interesting game all right I mean uh it's at 11 a.m., just like the Hawkeye game, so I'm going to have this one on another screen while I got the Hawks on because this is going to be a – this is a very, very interesting game because, right, we've seen Syracuse. They've played some tight games, you know, throughout the year,

and they've been pulling them out, right? Like they've been doing whatever it takes to win these football games, and I see Syracuse has a fantastic running back who really kind of does it all for them. And, you know, he's shown his ability throughout the entire football season. But Clemson, you see, offensively, they started off pretty slow, but really kind of over the past few weeks, right, they've really, really started to ramp it up and really kind of showing off their strength um as they did you know last week uh against florida state which forest they can end up keeping it somewhat close but there was at times where you watched it and

you're like yeah clemson they've got talent all over the field and you know when the quarterback is playing playing well and he's he's on it right that's a very very tough football team to beat but i feel like syracuse again they've they've been battle-tested throughout the year. They've been keeping games very, very close. So I'm actually going to take the orange with the points. I don't think that they will end up winning this football game, but I feel like they will keep it close. But Clemson will end up coming out with a victory.

But yeah, I think it will end up being a really, really good football game. We wrap things up with Iowa getting the 29.5 in Columbus at the shoe. Told you, been there a couple of times. LaShawn, you've been there a whole bunch of times throughout the year. You're not making your way to Columbus this weekend, are you? No. I got asked by a few. I got asked by a few, like, you coming down?

I'm like, no, I'm okay. Right. If Iowa was a little bit better, like, offensively, right, like I probably would have made the trip, right, I mean, seeing some friends and things like that. But I didn't want to. I honestly just didn't want to head up there, even though it was always a good time

when you're watching a football game in Columbus. Yeah, I think the last time I was there, it was when they had the fan cams where they had the colored Bud Lights. I think I had about 30 red Bud Lights before the game, scarlet Bud Lights before the game. And one of the bars there. And tailgating around that area for people that are heading out listening to us here on Friday and making their their way to columbus it's a

different environment than what you get certainly around kinnick stadium and and pretty much every big 10 stadium it's just it's so much different there people i think maybe just don't realize here from iowa across the midwest that's a city and we're talking usually college towns columbus is a real city yeah columbus is a Columbus is probably one of the nicest cities in Ohio. I mean, I much prefer to head down to Columbus than I do Cleveland. So it's a pretty decent-sized city and plenty of things to do, and it's always a fun time, especially if you're down there for an Ohio State football game.

So if you are heading down there to the game, you got a hot spot for us. Do I have a hot spot? Where should we go? What was the place? The varsity? I got, well, I got kicked out of a couple of places too. I've gotten into some trouble in Columbus on top of never arrested, which is good, but I woke up one morning before it was the 2005 game. I got kicked out of a bar. I was literally thrown out by my belt loop because I was trying to encourage this band to play the Iowa fight song. And I had all of my Iowa buddies around me and they were trying to talk into it.

Hey, yeah, yeah. And finally, the bouncers have seen enough and they literally just pick me up by my belt loop and toss me out. Well, I woke up the next morning, and I was wearing flip-flops. I only had one flip-flop, and I don't know what happened in the interim between when I was tossed out and how I got home that night. But, yeah, I've had some rough ones. So you got a place to stop, a place you got to go when you're in Columbus? Oh, I mean, no, I don't have anything specific.

Yeah. I mean, a bunch of the lots around the stadium are good. Anywhere east of High Street's usually pretty good too um honestly like there's so there's so much there to do um you're gonna find a bunch of people there uh who for most part everyone's there it's like usually pretty welcoming right uh as long as you're not being being rude and stuff um i think you're talking to be there yeah as long as you're as long as you're not being uh you know you know rude or anything like that right you can basically have a good time any any anywhere out there right especially and if you're near the stadium so um i don't have any specific hot spots uh but if you guys do you

have any good spots right you're at, definitely take some pictures. Let us know. Yes. Right? Because that's always a good time when you head out there. All right. We stretched this out long enough. We got to pick the actual game, what we think here.

I'm at Ohio State. In fact, my favorite bet of the week, early in the week when the team totals first came out in a couple of sports books, Iowa, the team total over under was 10.5 for the Hawkeyes points. I took the under on that one. This defense for Ohio State, they're legit. Jim Knowles, who was at Oklahoma State beforehand, that dude knows how to coach defense. I just, I can't envision a scenario short of defensive or special teams touchdowns where Iowa scores. So I got the final here, 38 to five. We get a safety and a field goal, 38, five. And I'm going to lay the points with the Buckeyes.

Yeah, honestly, I'm gonna lay the points with the Buckeyes as well. Really for a few reasons, right? Obviously, we know our struggles on offense, right? And it's going to be very, very difficult for us to just turn that around over a two-week span even with even with the bye week right it's not going to be easy especially against this is probably you know how state's best defense in a long while right and overall this is probably ohio state's probably most talented football team they've had since that national title in 2014 right like they've got football players at every single position, right?

And when you look at matchups all around the board, right? Like it's hard to see where Iowa makes up that difference, right? I mean, even defensively, right? You look at us as strong as a defense as we are, right? Our one downside defensively is we haven't been able to create as much pressure you know on the quarterbacks as we would like you know this football season right and when you've got you know a potential first round a potential top five draft pick back there quarterback as well as you know a receiving room that's probably could probably a denier as

talented as some of you know these nfo uh receiving rooms right like it it's not not the best best matchup in the world right and you know that i would typically like to play too high right to avoid the big plays well then you look at their offensive line and then you look at their two fantastic running backs they have back there and problem that we've struggled with again is against really good running backs right really good running backs tend to create a bunch of explosive plays and run for a lot of yards against us so i don't really see that i don't really see that changing right um this week right may think probably the only advantage we have is you know probably our point unit right now

so like yeah just give me ohio staying the points. I'm hoping, hoping, right, that, you know, it turns out differently on Saturday, but again, it's going to be a very, very tall task. Well, Sean, we are out of time. We'll be back at it next week. Sean, well, join me earlier in the week. We'll recap what we see. I'll back with you tomorrow after the game with an instant reaction podcast, and we will find out what we can see. Hopefully we're both wrong. We will see.

Talk to you next week, LaShawn. Yep, yep. Go Hawks.