Locked On Jayhawks - Daily Podcast On Kansas Jayhawks Football & Basketball - 3X CHAMPS: Auburn Sets Path for Kansas Jayhawks Football to Claim Multiple National Titles

Starting point is 00:00:00 Auburn is claiming four new national championships. I'm going to tell you why that means Kansas should be on the board with three football national championships. You are Locked on Jayhawks, your daily podcast on the Kansas Jayhawks, part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day. What's going on? Derek Johnson here, another bonus episode of Locked on Jayhawks. And thanks to joining us anywhere you get your podcast, including on our YouTube page where you can like and subscribe to the show. Thank you so much that every dayers, catching each and every episode, including our

Starting point is 00:00:40 double-dairs now we're catching. I don't know, triple there. We've been releasing a lot of content leading up to the football season, getting you hyped and ready. But talking a little football here, Kansas should be a multi-time national championship winning program. How about that? So we're going to get into some of the news, why it matters and kind of make the case,

Starting point is 00:00:56 why this should be a case. And you what, Kansas should have another basketball championship. too. Let's go all in on this idea for KU. So if you miss some of the national news, I guess you would say Auburn, you know, they're claiming four new national championships. They're going to be celebrating it at like one of the games or something. 1910, 1914, 1958, and then 2004. And to me, I think you can relate this to say Kansas should be able to claim at least two, if not a third. Let's have some fun with the Orange Bowl team as part of this as well. So the three that I'm talking about for Kansas, 1899, baby, who forgets that year?

Starting point is 00:01:35 1908, those national champion 1908 Hawks and then a 2007-08 Orange Bowl team. If we look at the ones that Auburn got in, 1910, they got in off the Maxwell ratings, the college football rankings from Lauren Maxwell and Kyle Matchkey. 1914, they're now getting in on James Howell's power rating system, from 1958 Montgomery full season championship, according to David Montgomery. In 2004, several, it says, including Daryl Perry and GBE college football ratings. It is hilarious to me that if you go through those different whatever power ratings or, I don't know, metric sites, whatever, those are six completely different rankings. And so like, could I just create a metric system right now that goes back and looks at every year of college football and I'll try to doctor it and tailor it to be like, see, okay, Kansas is number one this year.

Starting point is 00:02:26 This is so stupid, man. Why can't we just? No, this is a dumb way of doing it. But, you know, if we are going to play this game, if we are going to play this stupid dumb game, then, I mean, okay, 1910 Auburn, the team that they're claiming is national champions, they were six and one.

Starting point is 00:02:43 They lost nine to zero to a five, two, and one Texas team. And they get to claim a title. 1914 Auburn did go undefeated to their credit, technically. They did have a tie. So I don't know if you count that. is undefeated or not. 8-0-1. The tie, though, came to a 3-5-1 Georgia team. And I'll say this, the 1914 team, to their credit, this is actually pretty remarkable. Credit time.

Starting point is 00:03:06 They gave up zero points for the entire season. So that's pretty darn cool. I'll give them credit on that. But yeah, you tie to a bad team. 1958 Auburn. They were 9-0-1. Their tie came to a 5-4-1 Georgia Tech team. And guess what? They had zero combined AP top 25 victories at the time of play. They did wind up with one top-25 victory at the end. the year because they're six to five thrilling win over Florida. Florida finished ranked 14th that year. That was the only team that Auburn team beat that won six or more games that season. Then you have 2004 Auburn. They probably have the best case. They were 13 and 0 out of the SEC in a 14 playoff world. That would have been a really fun year. But also it's hard

Starting point is 00:03:47 for me not to say like that 04 USC team wouldn't have just spanked that Auburn team with Tommy Tuberville in the same way that they spanked that Oklahoma team with Adrian Peterson. But at least that one, you do have a little bit more to get creative with. And you could say, okay, well, USC got a split title for winning in the AP like the year prior. So I can get on board maybe a little more on that one. But those first three, I think, provide plenty. So I want to get into the case why KU should have at least two, if not three, of claimed national champions next. This episode of Lockdown Jayhawks is brought to you by prize picks, the daily fantasy platform that lets you turn

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Starting point is 00:05:12 We'll have previews coming out later this week as well with Locked on Jayhawks. All right, so I went over some of those Auburn ones. And for me, I mean, this keeps the door open. That's been open forever. I mean, UCF exploited this a decade ago. They're claiming a title. I don't know. Do you technically have to have one of these weird metric systems to claim it?

Starting point is 00:05:30 Can you just claim it for the sake of doing? I don't know. But here's the thing. I go back. Again, that 6 and 1 Auburn team is now a national champion. Let's look at 1899 Kansas. This was a powerhouse Jayhawk team.

Starting point is 00:05:43 They went 10 and 0 that season. The only season fielding H. Yost coached Kansas. So I guess the greatest coach in KU history, he's undefeated. He had six shutouts that year. They only gave up more than six points once. and their signature win a 34 to 6 victory over rival Missouri who went nine and two pretty impressive there now the national champions that year east coast bias all around man think about i mean we didn't have digital and tv going on like they're going to vote for the teams right there harvard and princeton get the east coast bias national championships despite princeton having a loss to they they lost five nothing to cornell that's a cornell team who was solid but they lost three games and uh one of of the i mean cornell lost the game by 29 points to pen which back in the day losing by

Starting point is 00:06:29 29 because the lack of offense that's like losing by 60 nowadays you know um they have a loss harvard had a tie with yale and harvard's average margin of victory that year was 18 points kansas's was 24 kansas should get the 1899 title at the very least if we're given one to harvard and princet kansas should get a share as well okay kansas throughout the 1899 national championship banner. 1908, Kansas went 9-0 in, under Doc Kennedy, AR Kennedy in that 1908 season. They had five shutouts.

Starting point is 00:07:01 The most points that anybody scored on KU that year was six. KU scored double digits in every game. They outscored their opponents by 11 in total that year, an average of a little over 12 per game. And the resume was really good for that 1908 Kansas team, as good as we can imagine for the early 1900s. They had a 15-point road victory against. against Nebraska, who finished 7, 2, and 1, that's even.

Starting point is 00:07:24 They had a 10 to 4, 10 to 4, 10 to 4 victory over Missouri, who went 6 and 2 that year. They had a 12 to 6 victory over a 6 and 2 Kansas State team, and this is their best win. I mean, those are all three good teams. You combine Missouri, Nebraska, K State that year. They combined to go 19 and 6, but their best win was an 11 to nothing shutout victory over Oklahoma. That Oklahoma team, 8-0 and 1 against everyone else. They finished 8-1-1 on the season. They're only lost being to Kansas, and they lost 11-0.

Starting point is 00:07:55 That 19-08 Kansas team outscored the rest of the competition, 272 to 35. You compare that to those 1910 and 1914 Auburn team resumes. It's better. If we compare it to the three recognized champs in 1908, or, yeah, so you have 9-0-1 Harvard, you have 10-0-LSU and 11-1 Penn. Harvard has a tie to a two-lost Navy team. They wound up with an average margin of victory 12.4. Kansas was a 12.3. And that Harvard resume on the schedule featured schools like bowdoin,

Starting point is 00:08:27 Maine, Bates, Williams. I'm not just naming names. These are these are real schools. Springfield training school and Carlisle with a few Ivy League games sprinkled in. If Harvard has a national championship, Kansas should have one for that year as well. They should get a claim Penn had a tie with two loss Carlisle. Otherwise that, they were a wagon. They were blowing teams out. So respect for that LSU team also 10 and oh and they were like blasting teams um so you know if those teams get a share of it Kansas should get a share of it too it should be a four way share at that point I don't know maybe there's a five way share maybe there's another team out there um so I want to talk about the 07 08 team that one's a little more complicated Kansas should be at least two-time national

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Starting point is 00:10:47 All right, finishing things up here with Locked on Jayhawks, should the 07-08 team have a claim? Did you know actually three teams by some of these weird metrics and pollsters can claim a title that year? Obviously, LSU, they won the BCS. USC can with the 11 and 2 season. I think that was Mark Sanchez. I think that upset by like Oregon State. I forget the other loss.

Starting point is 00:11:08 And yes, I'm sorry to bring this one up, Missouri. If I told you Kansas gets to claim the 07 national title, but it also means Missouri gets to claim it, would you do it? I don't think I would take that trade off. But Kansas should absolutely claim the 1899 and the 1908 ones. But still, you know, you look at it and LSU ends up winning the BCS title. How about this little transit of property that we can work to, right? LSU had two losses that year.

Starting point is 00:11:35 One to Kentucky, team who finished eight and five, the other to Arkansas, who finished eight and five as well. So Kansas has lost in Missouri is better than the LSU, you know, resume, so to speak, with the losses. Also that Arkansas team who beat L. LSU, Missouri beat them by 31 points in their bowl game. And so if we just take the transit of property of saying KU versus Missouri for the second, third and fourth quarters, then take Missouri over Arkansas, then Arkansas over LSU, boom, you get Kansas as national champions that year.

Starting point is 00:12:04 But KU's record is also better than all three of those teams who can claim it at 12 and 1. The rest of them had two losses. So that's kind of interesting too, right? But in all seriousness, like, do I actually think the 07 J. Hawk team was the best in the country that year? No, I don't. I think they were one of the best teams in the country. I don't think they were the best that year.

Starting point is 00:12:21 But 1899 and 1908, I'm fine saying they were partially because the fun of it, partially because I can't really. I mean, do we really know? No, but if all these other teams are claiming titles, Kansas should too for those years because resume-wise, they do have as good of a case as the other. But I think more than anything, this whole exercise is showing the flaws and stupidity that basically you don't have to be the best team to claim a title in a given year. And so if that is the case, and it's just a handful of recognized champions every year and claiming titles, why not expand it, you know, why not do it if you're Kansas? At the end of the day, if you're going to recognize the 1922 and 1923 national champions in college basketball of your KU, which they do from Helms, you've already dipped your feet in the pool. You're already at your knees in the pool. Take a cannonball, dive all the way in, claim 1899, claim 1908. And while we're

Starting point is 00:13:15 at it claim the 2020 national champions in college basketball as well sure there's going to be some national blowback if you do all those things just as there is right now for Auburn but it'll subside in a few days and then guess what in 34 years people are going to look back they'll look at the stadium they'll look at the rafters and go oh wow kansas won the national title that year oh wow kU football has won two national champions claim them all make everyone mad all right that'll go for this episode of locked on jahawks see you next time right here anywhere you your podcast, including on our YouTube page.

Locked On Jayhawks - Daily Podcast On Kansas Jayhawks Football & Basketball - 3X CHAMPS: Auburn Sets Path for Kansas Jayhawks Football to Claim Multiple National Titles

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