Locked On Jayhawks - Daily Podcast On Kansas Jayhawks Football & Basketball - BIG 12 SQUAD - Arizona REPRESENTS Big 12 in Final Four | Was this a Good Tournament for Kansas?

Episode Date: April 2, 2026

Arizona Wildcats power into the Final Four, carrying the Big 12’s championship hopes on their shoulders. Can Tommy Lloyd’s squad overcome a razor-thin spread against Michigan and silence doubters about their place in the conference? The conversation heats up as hosts and insiders debate Arizona’s dominance, Michigan’s high-octane trio, and the critical impact of turnovers, rebounding, and three-point shooting in this high-stakes matchup. The Big 12 Squad voices spotlight how Arizona’s grit, defensive identity, and fan base set them apart from newcomers like Utah. The episode scrutinizes Brett Yormark’s bold PR moves, Friday night football matchups, and whether the Big 12 is missing chances to spotlight its new heavyweights. Is Arizona a true Big 12 representative—or just another Pac-12 outsider? This must-listen debate unwraps the drama, strategy, and passion at the heart of March Madness. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Arizona, last team standing representing the Big 12 in the final four. Leif, the guy on the show today was in San Jose when they punched their ticket to those last four. And he joins us to talk all things, Big 12, Arizona. They're at the top. This is the Dos A Grande Squad. Locked on Big 12, your daily podcast on the Big 12 conference, part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day. Happy Thursday, everybody. Welcome to the Dosea Grande Squad.

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He's got like perfect attendance this year. Wow. Wow. eight minutes late, eight minutes late to our recording. The Cues and Cougars are 40 minutes late to their bat. And there he goes. In the studio and out of the studio. We'll let them hang out for a second.

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Gents, Leif, we start with you. You're the man of the hour. Arizona representing the Big 12 and the final four. You're carrying the boats. You're carrying the league. Do you feel the pressure of 16 fan bases counting on one team? A little bit. I mean, I think this is the best basketball team in the conference this year.

And the numbers would bear it out. But the pressure is that Michigan's really good. I really feel like Arizona and Michigan are the best two teams in the country. And it's a shame they're playing in the semifinal rather than the final. But, you know, to be in the first. Final four and shake off the burden that has played Tucson for 25 years of the final four in that long and represent the Big 12 is a good problem to have, I suppose, for Arizona within the Big 12th.

So, Leif, wouldn't that by extension mean that the winner of this game is guaranteed to win the Natty? Say it now, Leif, do it. Say it, Katie. I'd certainly say they're favored. It's been a weird little thought of my head. Like, what if these teams beat each other into submission? and then all of a sudden Illinois or Yukon squeaks one out.

So that's popped in my head. But I do think Arizona, Michigan have been the best teams all season long. Somebody with some talent take my voice with his face and say, the wildcats are going to win all of it because the winner of this game is the best team in the country. That's not how it works, Cody. What are you talking? Yeah, that's not, they don't hand the trophy to the semifinal winner. The Vangel has the spread on this game, razor thin, razor thin spread on this game.

Michigan minus one and a half. That's pretty shocking to me. Well, why is it? Well, just because I feel like Arizona has been the best, most consistent team in the entire country, the entire year. Certainly Michigan deserves to be right there, obviously, you know, but I just felt like Arizona, I feel like Arizona should be favored by three points or, a little bit more possibly. I just think when you look up and down their roster,

they've got, I've said it before, how many is at least eight or nine guys? It's nine of your higher rated players. It's insane. Our top eight, I think our top eight would be to anyone in the country in a series every single time. The thing about Michigan is their top three is really,

really good. I think their fastball, if you will, like if they're A game's going on and you're playing their A game, they might have the best A game. I think Arizona's got the best A-minus, through C plus in the country.

And I think their floor and their reliability is better than everyone else's. Michigan can pose problems because they're huge. And they have three NBA players in their front line. And Arizona typically overwhelms teams in the front court. And out of 37 games, 35 of them, Arizona's won the rebounding battle. And many by

substantial margins. They meet Yukon, who's in the final four by 20 on the glass. I was there one night in Tucson when they did not win the rebounding battle. But I don't think Michigan, I'm just saying. I'm pretty sure they actually did win the rebounding battle. They lost the game, but they won the rebound. Not an overtime, but I, Leif, I would say, after watching, I've seen Illinois in

person, I've seen Arizona in person. I don't doubt that Arizona's, I've been rooting for them. They are perfectly built. My concern is if they have to hit threes at some point, and they have to hit them that they don't those shots don't fall because it looked uncomfortable in the first half in the Elite 8 game

and then they just came out of the locker room and just overwhelmed them but I I think that I don't doubt what Paul's saying either I think Arizona's maybe been the best team all year but it is it's the final

It's a final He's a rebuttal for you that you may enjoy Chris I think that when Arizona has been whole. They haven't lost a game. And I think Texas Tech is great. No one was pillaged by injuries

more than Texas Tech. So I don't mean this as a slight at all because that was a great game. B. Y, you would like the word. Co-O-Pee could move in that game. And the other game that they lost, Co-Up, he was also injured. So in Co-Up Pete's been healthy, they haven't lost.

And then the other part with that is, they're 35 and two in rebounding. And then in three games against top five opponents this season, Arizona has scored 90-plus multiple times by scoring three or fewer threes. So in Arkansas, they hit five threes. I went five of eight and scored 109 points.

So Arizona, I do agree that three-pointer is more important against Michigan the most, but I don't think it gives them a little like a small chance to not shoot many threes. Because what Michigan does very well is they shoot a lot more threes because of the fear of what they can do on the inside. Arizona's got a level that I think stops them just as much of what Michigan can stop Arizona. So I am a little scared that they'll need more threes, but the statistics would say Arizona doesn't need any threes because they shoot 60% from two, and they also shoot 45% in their shot,

it's up from five feet or in. Leaf, you've tapped into something I think is really interesting about this game and that, like, weirdly, both teams have dominated competition in very similar ways using their science, right? Yes. I want to ask you to watch Arizona much more closely and is prepping for this one, like,

what do you see the game script playing out like? Because I don't act, like, this does feel like Goliath, Goliath colliding in the same kind of way. There's not like, it's which team bends first? Because it does feel like they both want to do the same thing. So they're going to game play in the very similar way to me. Yeah. And I haven't quite made up my mind as to what I really think the script will be.

But my guess is the number to watch will be turnovers or the statistic to watch will be turnovers because when Arizona forces turnovers, they score really well. But Michigan forces more of them. they play a more gamble-happy defense. And when they force those turnovers, they're so steady and so productive defensively anyway that they run teams out of the gym. When Tennessee was playing early in that game, Tennessee was winning the glass, but they just couldn't manufacture enough good shots.

As soon as Arizona, excuse me, Michigan forced turnovers, they ran Tennessee out of the gym. They hit a few threes. When Michigan hits threes, you got no chance. I think Arizona won't give up as many good threes because they're not undersized as many, almost every team in the country is when they face Michigan, forcing double teams. So I think what happens is Arizona slows this game down.

I think they play similarly actually to how they played Houston at Houston, in the sense that when they played Houston at Houston, they were missing Co-opete. So what they needed to do is maximize every possession and play more slowly and try to swing the ball from side to side more rather than just drive and score. I think this game will be slower and lower scoring than most games. Michigan's going to want to score from three. I do think they run the risk of shooting themselves out of the game.

game, but as an Arizona fan, that that variability actually scares me in the sense that if they get hot from three, then Arizona will have to do what Chris said and shoot some more threes than they're more comfortable to do. Yeah, sometimes the difference in the game. Tommy Lloyd, tell all these people that Tommy Lloyd's not going to North Carolina. I don't think you will. I might be confident these days, but we talked about Drake and I did a show. We crossed over Tuesday.

Yeah, we crossed over Tuesday. They'll see it. We got to hit a break here. But Parker, yeah, I think leaves right. Turnovers are usually the difference, unless free throws are an even bigger difference. Two free throws. Houston shot two free throws.

Coming up. We would talk about me. Arizona and the big 12. Is it weird that Arizona is a big 12 team? That's the school carrying the boats? I don't think so. At least I hope not this is the Dos A Grande Squo. Hey, today's show is brought you by TurboTax.

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I don't think a lot of Big 12 fans based on how Utah reacts, just don't root for Utah. They feel like this is one of these Pact 12 schools walked in, two pompous, and they don't get the benefit of the doubt. Does Arizona carry that? Or is this an Arizona team that feels like, yeah, the Big 12's got Arizona. We love them. I think this is why they were brought into the Big 12 primarily. I think you could say the same thing about Houston.

Would it have been great if Arizona and Houston were both great at football to begin with? Yeah, but I think Brayneurmark being a basketball dude, he knew that Arizona and Houston should immediately pump up the conference. and I think this is exactly what Brett Yormark had laid out when he envisioned the four core schools coming in. So from that perspective, no, I think most of us expected Arizona and Houston to carry this level of a basketball brand for the Big 12. So I love it. I think it's going to the script. Yeah. Arizona feels like a big 12 team to me.

There we go. That's what I don't feel like there's. I mean, I don't feel like there's, I mean, there's, you look at where they're located. It's a college town. they have a college fan base they they don't really have as many pro teams as other states do so i feel like it says i mean they do but they're not as massive as other states are it's not new york right it's not they're not very good the proteins aren't very good i'm saying Arizona can compete with some of the proxasons not phoenix so i agree with paul like it's separated yeah right so i

come into me so to me there's that familiar to other big 12 schools and then they've gotten better in football. So it's not like they're, I mean, they're probably going to be competitive this year in football and are probably one of the dark courses you would pick if you asked me to pick two. I would probably pick them as one of the dark horses to maybe get into that top four range, right? So I think that there's a lot of admirable qualities that they have now that they didn't have when they came for sure. They've always had basketball. That's like he said, that's why they came. So, yeah, I definitely don't feel like, I mean, you're, you're, Utah, right? That's kind of like my go-to

whenever I feel like somebody doesn't feel like a part of the Big 12. That's kind of how it feels to me when I look at Utah. If there's anybody that's but heard about the new booty's representing the Big 12, it's probably a Utah fan. Let's just call a spade to spade. Or Kansas because it was their conference for so long. Leaf, you'll know the quote better than I did, but there was something Tommy Lloyd said this week about like,

hey, like, we're only this good because of the Big 12th. Like they got the Big 12, they got their butt kicked for a year, and they had to elevate their style of play, and like, now look where they are. Like, it was something to that effect, and I don't remember the exact quote, but it was like they represent the Big 12 because they were a product of the conference. I thought those are really, really cool angle, frankly. Yeah, and reading between the lines,

I think he basically built that program that we know now as the team that's won the Big 12 in both regular season and postseason now or in the Final Four because they added toughness to kind of resemble what Houston was when they entered the Big 12 and kind of look at what Baylor was when they wanted. Like there is defense. Of course, these teams are very good offensively if you look at the Kenpom, but Baylor was one of the best defensive teams. I know they're 44th entering.

You watch that team. They were a monster. And you look at all these teams, they employ no middle defenses. And there is Press Virginia. And all these different teams, you could say there's defensive identity. And Arizona is going to be top 10 with Tommy Lloyd in terms of offense. They're going to be that every year. But really what's elevated them from being a top 10 team that flames out.

a team that is as good as they are this year is defense. And I think the Big 12 made them feature that as opposed to the PAC 12 where you can just run and gun and out athlete people. And I could give shout to each program like Texas Tech with Chris Beard. And then McCaslin comes in, defense. I think there was a certain like, oh, shoot, we got to acclimate and figure out how to play a brand of basketball that's going to be better than just a four seat. Because Arizona doesn't want to be a four seat and make sweet 16s.

They want to be a team that can be a torchbearer to a conference. and I think Tommy Lloyd elevated the program to follow the footsteps of what Houston did. Level as a tried and true. Yeah. Yeah. What happened to Texas Tech, Chris? That's what Drake was saying. No, there's no doubt that Arizona and Houston have made the Big 12 a better basketball league.

But there's also no doubt that the opposite is true, that this league has made these programs better. You have to be. or you're going to get chewed up and spit out. I mean, it's just unforgiving. I mean, peacock today, feathered dust or tomorrow. That's just how this league works, man, on a night in and not out basis, man. And I think that the bail of the mares. Well, that's a national championship coach, man.

And, and like they had two NBA draft picks on their team. And they just, they were extremely average. But you put them in another league and it may have been very different. I mean, but that's just, that's the league that this thing is, man. And, you know, and how these schools look, the Bob Bullsby put Houston in this league, you know, that was survival, right? And then your mark, they did a great thing with the four corner schools. It was also survival. But then you, you basically say, well, let's pull a little this, little that.

You know what? This is a damn good basketball league. Let's showcase it. Let's put it on a glass court in Kansas City and do the things. You know, let's showcase this sport. But I was thrilled for Arizona because I think that there's no doubt the league would have taken a hit if you don't send somebody to the final four. And if you don't win the national championship, there's going to be some perception there that, you know, it was the Big Ten that was the best league. They've got, you know, that's just kind of how it works.

We're all going to poke fun at the SEC because they don't have anybody in the Final Four. They haven't anybody in the title games in football in the last couple years. and that's what people point to. So I think the Big 12 certainly needs to do their part. Can we all laugh at Duke, though? Before we get there, we can laugh at Duke right now, right? Can we do that at all times? Except for Cam, who grew up a Duke fan.

We can't do that. We can't make fun of the team that's in our daggone intro, guys. What do you do it? What do we do? That I still, that DCU Duke game, in theory. Future Big 12, Duke, we can't do that. That would be a fun edition.

So, but I guess where I was going, and we're Leif and I talked on our crossover on Tuesday, is Stanford to me is not at ACC school. If they went to the final four tomorrow, I wouldn't think, oh, wow, Stanford, they represent the ACC, that patch wouldn't make any sense. I want to ensure the patch on Arizona makes sense when we talk them in the final four. I don't mean to keep stepping on Leaf's toes here, but I do think it does because he mentioned it's been 25 years, right?

Like, this does not feel like the same kind of program it has for so long because for so long they were the team that got there and choked. They joined the Big 12 and suddenly they're not, right? Like, I think that that's a big, big representation, right? Yeah. Yeah, Lee. Lee, congrats. Leave that.

I don't know if the Pac-12 necessarily hurt Arizona, but I do think the Big 12 helped Arizona. Like, I think the Pac-12, they can win a lot. They got Sean Miller and, like, there was programs. But, like, UCLA was the only real team with the home court advantage in all the Pac-12. Like, I'm from Pac-12 country, and I've watched a lot. of basketball. The only place you can hear through the TV is Mikhail and then Polly when Polly was actually going. And right now, UCLA's not bad, but they don't have any fans. And you go to like, okay, Corvallis, nice, Eugene, nice, Maples Pavilion, nothing.

The Big 12 and the reason Arizona fits in my perception, especially in basketball, is that these are all college towns that believe in care in their programs. Like Kansas, even though, like I don't like Kansas, they won 17 regular season championships in a row. They are the torch bear. Allen Fieldhouse is a gauntlet to go enter. Houston's a pain to go play. Texas Tech's got a great home floor. Like every single one of these programs,

and I think that type of gritty and physical nature that kind of is instilled by having these programs that really care about basketball and have fans that support it really has helped Arizona. So I don't think the Pac-12 hurt Arizona, like I said, but I think the Big 12 certainly helped Arizona. Wake up, Christian, you have a basketball team too. This is a fight. And like, New Jersey.

school man the octagon of what I guess octagon of room this year but the octagon of doom is but Iowa State I mean and the beauty of this league is it prepares you for all different styles like you're going to play slower

you're going to play faster you're going to play you're going to have to play good defense you better be able to score you better have depth I mean again it's going to pick apart your deficiencies and you know I mean I just no why didn't nobody say foster pavilion come on guys come on

Palace on the brasses. Coming up, Brad Your Mark, we talk with the glass court a little bit there. And Friday night, football is the Big 12 missing the boat as far as PR goes. I just don't feel like the Big 12 itself

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The Glass Court, bad for the Big 12th. There are the pansy fans, the Utah fans. I'm glad he tried something and apologized. Like, I don't give a rat's ass. No one asked for Glass Court. You did it. You wasted a lot of money on it. That money could have gone somewhere else.

Oh, let's play in Mexico. Nope, burn it with fire. BYU misses the college ball playoff. Your Mark says, oh, I get it. I understand it. The Big 12 wants, you know, 10, 11 teams in. Your mark goes to the podium, says, we'd like eight. And now Arizona doesn't feel proper.

of the Big 12 is playing Texas Tech Houston on a Friday night next year. Two contenders in the Big 12th. Possibly. Two contenders in the Big 12 conference in a state that is predicated on high school football. Like the GDP of high school football in Texas would beat out most countries.

I just, I think the Big 12 is in a really weird PR spot and that your mark for as good as he is behind closed doors, once those doors open, you're like, dude, why are your pants down? Yeah. Ray Armour is definitely missing out on something here. You talk about the glass thing. last time, but you had me on your show, we talked about how during the entire Big 12 wrestling tournament, they sent out like eight tweets while the ACC sent out like 40-some-odd

tweets, not their wrestling's massive, but then Oklahoma State makes a run at Penn State, and you've got all these freshmen national champions, and the Big 12 doesn't, they don't, they don't back the rivalries, they don't back the conference like other conferences do. Brett Yormark, I think has been the visionary genius we've needed, but it seems like he's falling flat recently for some odd reason and I don't get it. It's interesting too because like look obviously Houston's had their

crowd things. Y'all give me a hard time about plenty of times or whatever, right? But I brought up the idea when a year ago Houston played four of the first five games not on Saturdays. The game against Texas Tech last year with their first Saturday football game of the season is their fourth game of the year week six, right? And

honestly, when I said it in February, March, April, but it's not that big a deal. deal. And then we got to September and it was like, this is weird. Like, it's the kind of thing where like he'll say it now and do it now. And no one's cognizant enough to be thinking about how weird it's going to be to have two teams next year. Houston won 10 games last year. Tech went to the college football play off last year.

And they're going to open up conference play on a Friday night. Like that's an odd thing to do. When I imagine everyone in love is going to be at what the Monterey game, right? Like, where's it going to be like, honestly, Chris? Like, it's going to be a weird atmosphere, I imagine. Yeah, but here's the thing. none of these schools can can gripe about it. We can sit here and talk about it,

but everybody's willing to take that check from the TV network, aren't they? I mean, you know, that's just, unfortunately, this was the deal that they cut, and this is the part that sucks. This is where you realize a pecking order. That's the harsh truth. And there's more Friday games coming, and non-traditional Saturday games coming,

but at least you're not playing. Big 12 title, right? Yeah, yes. I don't think the issue is, that we're playing on Friday, I think the issue is that it's those two teams and they just so happen to be kicking off Big 12. But they're trying to.

If you're going to put a Oklahoma State, Kansas on Friday, I'm sorry, we were terrible. They underperform. It makes sense. I don't want it either. Trust me. I don't want it either. I don't think it helps the crowd.

But here's the thing. They're trying to, the TV folks, they don't really care what any of us think. They don't care. They're trying to showcase it. I mean, Clemson played last year on a Friday night. I think Miami played on a Friday night. night. I want to say Florida State did.

I mean, a lot of those ACC schools, this is just unfortunate. You know, and I'd have to go back and look. I think Oregon did. I think they're trying to showcase it. It's a weird way of coming around to, it's kind of a compliment for Houston and for Texas Tech, but yeah, I would love it. Don't

don't mess with my Saturday football. That's the, that's my thought that I would offer up, but it won't help the crowd. That's for sure. What are the big complaints about this? Is it that this Friday is for football, especially high school football in Texas. Well,

that they filmed Friday night lights, what, two hours away. And, and yeah, this is a monster high school football. And people work? People work Friday?

Well, yeah. A lot of tech fan base. Yeah, a lot of text fan base lives in Midland Odessa or the Metroplex or whatever. I just want to make sure we get that out there. What is it that people don't like about it?

Because I will stress as someone, visiting Lubbick as the road team. Let's play it on our Friday. We got a better shot. I'm sure he will. I'm sure. I'm sure Parker would absolutely love it. Yeah.

If you're the road team, if you're the road team, you love it. Cody's the best. That's the best I've heard on this. I think from, from my standpoint of why I'm frustrated is throw Kansas out there. Throw Kansas.

And Kansas is bad. Throw Kansas Oklahoma State on a Friday. And you're like, yeah. That game fits Friday. That makes sense. Makes sense. And a lot of the,

I mean, you know, some of these TV deals, early season ones work months in advance. I like the mojo hat. Cam, see, I see it, dog. Yeah, I got you, man. That's some synergy right there. Yeah.

I want the rock counts. Come on. I also did just check because I was interested. They already have Miami Wake Forest on that same Friday. Well, yeah, look at it. It's Wake Forest, dog. I mean, so if we would. See,

we should dominate that Friday. What I'm saying that was like, they already have one former college football playoff team up there on that Friday night in Miami. Like, yeah. Who's they? Are you saying ESPN? Okay, so this one's going to be a Fox game.

Oh, we're going to, so they're competing, I guess. Basically, yeah, that's right. Yeah. Is there, I mean, probably not. It's too early. But this is a marquee matchup for the Big 12. I mean, this could be week six. This could have been college game day.

Number 13, Houston versus number six Texas Tech. It probably isn't that. That's not the case. Three weeks in, yeah, for work. For what it's worth, the games I assume will take up the slate of Saturday are Florida State at Alabama, Georgia at Arkansas, and LSU at Ole Miss. Those are big TV games, I'm sure. Didn't LSU lose to one of those teams were putting on Friday night?

But I mean, I digress. West Virginia made a living out of the Friday night games for years. For probably 10 years. We played every year on Friday. But that's when we were in the Big East. We're trying to make a name for ourselves, you know? So it's not exactly the same thing. But I do understand the reason I was at.

asking is from a fan's perspective. I understand what it means, what you're saying, as far as the deterrence about playing on a Friday, there are benefits to it as well. But, you know, at the end of the day,

we didn't have a matchup like this could possibly be going on at the time either. Usually it was a throwaway game like East Carolina or somebody like that, you know? So Houston and Texas Tech, if they are both top 15 teams at that time, obviously you're thinking, well, dang, we could have game day instead. I get that thought process.

I don't think there's any benefit, personally. The only benefit is you don't have competition of 55 other games. That's the only benefit. I guess, yeah, which is why we don't be a rivalry week. And I think that's stupid. I don't mean to say you don't know what you're talking about, but that's where Chris is talking about is. Your competition isn't the 55 other games on Friday.

It's everyone's local team. And like, that's a very Texas thing. Drake's lived here a minute, Cam's lived here for a minute. but in Texas, Chris, Chris mentioned all those surrounding areas of Lubbock, Odessa, Midland, they've got to decide, am I going to the league game or I'm going to the tech game? They've got to decide that. Esticado is playing Coronado that night.

I mean, that's going to be a huge match. I appreciate the fact that some of you guys do know your Lubbock High Schools. Yeah, I respect. Yeah. Respect. What in Tornation, Parker, does that have to do with not playing against the other 55 teams on Saturday? No, because the deal there to me is that it's not, you're not competing for the TV numbers with the 55 other teams on a Saturday.

You're competing with people that are going to go watch their local team for $10 in person or come watch you for $75 or whatever, right? Like that's the game you're playing. And frankly, a lot of these folks, look, Chris, you can correct me if I'm wrong. People in Midland and Odessa, whether stay home and pay $10 or $15 to watch Midland Lee, than they would go watch Tech and Houston. Yeah.

I mean, and so another piece of it too is TV viewership. The state of Texas, again, you're a Houston fan, but I'm in, I'm not watching my phone

and watching my kid. I'm not watching the game on my phone. I'll check the score later. I'm watching my kid. That's a lot of people who will be in the state of Texas watching high school football.

I mean, dudes whose kids aren't even in school 10 years ago. They care more about their high school team on Friday. That's what Friday's a reserve for. They're sacred in Texas. That's a big problem. That only,

that seems like that only, I mean, maybe not only, but doesn't exist in West Virginia. It's a vacuum. It's certainly vacuum. Orlando, UCF, put them on Friday night against West Virginia. It's probably a better, you know, there's a better chance.

Nobody's being out to Mountaineers in West Virginia, obviously. You know, so I, you know, I get that. Yeah, I mean, people are wearing more, you know, guy or stuff around than they are, their A&M stuff on a Friday. That's what Friday is reserved for. We're just named off. It's crazy. This is like having to play a game over in Europe or Germany

or wherever the hell they're playing. man, the year, who is Arizona State. DCU, North Carolina. Arizona. That was a killer for those teams last year. Arizona State and Kansas are playing somewhere, aren't they?

Aren't they playing like in week three or four over in Ireland, right, or somewhere like that? Check the Slovakia or something. I don't be news to me. We'll put them on an aircraft. Every basketball players. They are. So, yeah, they'll play the game

wherever Illinois gets their basketball players. Yeah, maybe. Tommy Lloyd and Brad Underwood instead of going to final four, and scouting out of that football game. Say, oh, wait, you're 6-8. That's great. Mountainier, Paul, locked on West Virginia,

Parker, Rainsworth, Locked on Couges, Cameron Stewart, host and all things, Baylor, Leapto-Lean with Arizona. Chris Level to Christian Rowe and Cody's. Christian, you played the game the right way today, my friend. You were playing chess. We were playing checkers,

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