Locked On Jayhawks - Daily Podcast On Kansas Jayhawks Football & Basketball - BIG 12 SQUAD - Big 12 Shaping Up GREAT For March Madness | Where Kansas Stacks Up

Episode Date: February 12, 2026

Big 12 basketball faces a national spotlight battle as top contenders like Houston, Texas Tech, BYU, and Oklahoma State chase March Madness glory. Is ESPN shortchanging the conference’s exposure in ...favor of SEC and ACC teams? The Big 12 Squad breaks down the league’s elite depth, impact freshmen, and which teams have the firepower to cut down the nets. From Power Poll shake-ups to rankings drama, they question whether the Big 12’s quality can overcome its quantity disadvantage this postseason. The discussion shifts to football’s offseason storyline: Texas Tech atop way-too-early power rankings with BYU close behind. The hosts debate transfer portal moves, scheduling quirks, and whether Oklahoma State can parlay an all-star QB into a true dark horse run. The episode also takes on NIL, the transfer portal, and controversy over recent fan behavior—raising the stakes for the Big 12’s perception on and off the field. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Big 12 race is shaping up as they chase March Madness, glory. Is it enough for them to get over the top this season? We're talking about it on the Big 12 squad. You're talking ball with the Big 12 squad. From Oklahoma State to Utah, from Kansas State to BYU. From Houston to Texas Tech, it's the local experts of the locked-on podcast network, bringing you scoops, breakdowns, and the most comprehensive preview of the upcoming Big 12 weekend. Buckle up.
Starting point is 00:00:26 It's the Big 12 squad, and we have a seat for you. Know her feelings and thin skin allowed. Squad up, you're part of the Big 12 Squad. Welcome into the Big 12 Squad, everybody. I'm Jake Hatch, host of Locked on Cougars. That next to me is my arch nemesis, Parker Ainsworth of Locked on Couges. Don't get those two confused. Below me, Cody Stovall, Locked on Oklahoma State,
Starting point is 00:00:50 another one of my rivals. And then Chris Lovell, who completes the trifective teams that BYU's lost to in the recent past, host of Lockedon, Texas Tech. Thank you for making all of our shows, your first list. today. And as always, make sure you subscribe, rate and review because that helps us keep our job to be part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, which is the number one sports podcast network. All right, everybody, we're going to talk a little bit about the Big 12 and their race for March madness. Do we have enough elite teams to hopefully see one of them hoist the hardware come March?
Starting point is 00:01:22 We'll get into that. Then we'll talk some way too early power pool ratings and BYU back in the headlines because Cody Stovell in Oklahoma State decided to act very poorly a week ago. And we'll, we'll dive into all that ahead on today's show. So I want to fire off, as I mentioned, BYU's lost to all three of your respective programs. They find themselves in the middle of the Big 12 race. But all three of your programs are looking like they're on a hunt for March Madness. Cody, obviously, your team fighting to get onto the bubble here, whereas Parker and Chris, essentially you're playing for seating at this point. How are we feeling? I just kind of open up whoever wants to answer first. How are we feeling about the Big 12 in terms of the national
Starting point is 00:02:03 I guess persona or like a perception, I should say, of the league as we head full on down towards March Madness? I mean, I think it's as strong as ever, right? I know Houston just got here so Chris can probably speak to that more so. And Cody and I have talked about basketball all the time. And I also whenever I tell Cody about basketball, I think of like the grandbrothers and that Oklahoma State program being really strong. And maybe that's too old school of me. But big 12's got 16s in the top 25 multiple teams in the top 10 uh Arizona is number one and I guess as recording this they have not lost yet I don't mean to give the spoilers there away for folks but um it feels like as good a year as big 12 has ever had and frankly it feels like in the last 10 years
Starting point is 00:02:48 last year was kind of the anomaly right like that that that I think sticks out as the one that's different um I can see any number of I mean obviously I'm going to sit here and tell you why Houston's going to do it. But any number of us then could see teams hosting a trophy. You mentioned BYU's lost all these teams, and I'll get off the mic a second. BYU is still probably a Sweet 16 team at worst, right? That's just how tough the conference is. That's how I read it, I guess.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Maybe I'm crazy. Well, Chris, give us your sense, because you're the resident historian here, I should say. Well, I think, I don't know if I'm, I would phrase it differently than when Parker said. I don't know if it's as deep as it's ever been before. I do think, though, that this is a year where you have more teams that could win a national championship or make the final four than ever before. How about that? Because you're only going to get seven, eight, maybe nine bids.
Starting point is 00:03:46 The middle and the lower part of your league are not very good. And there's some of these top teams in this league that are going to play. each other down the stretch and it's going to affect their standing in the league, their national seating and all these things. It's just going to be interesting to see. But I do think you've got, you know, three to four, maybe five teams that can make a final four or cut down the nets. And I don't know if we've ever felt that way before. But yeah. So because again, the SEC had what? 14 teams in bed last year, right?
Starting point is 00:04:28 And you're not even going to come close to that this year and what you would term your, but I do think that you've got more top-in teams than any other league by far. The Big Ten, probably next closest. And with what's going on with Purdue and some other teams, you know, I think. But again, this league's brutal. I mean, Jake, you can speak to that. Your team was riding high. Nope.
Starting point is 00:04:52 And they've lost, what, what, five of six? Yeah, five of six as a recording of this podcast, four straight. Obviously, the most recent one to Parker's Houston Cougars. Before that, Cody, I want your thought on this. Oklahoma State, they're fighting to get themselves on to that bubble. They're four and six in league, but that went over BYU, I think, put some juice into their chances of making it into March. Yeah, and then we got absolutely juiced by Arizona to the tune of almost 50 points, but that's okay. I saw what you did there.
Starting point is 00:05:22 That was very professional of you. you pulled a level. Listen, we all have to lose once by 50. I'm just happy that we got it out of the way, all right, and it just so happened to be Arizona. Legitimately speaking,
Starting point is 00:05:34 fellas, I think the Big 12, right, we need this this year. I thought Houston had a very good opportunity to get it done last year. And instead of us talking about the SEC, getting a bunch of teams in,
Starting point is 00:05:45 and then statistically not performing as admirably as they should have, because Florida won it, right? They kind of, they win in the end. I think we need that for the Big 12 this particular season. I think level just alluded to it. You have three, four teams that easily could find themselves, you know, competing for final four spots.
Starting point is 00:06:04 And Oklahoma State, yeah, I think accentuates that you can be a top 15 team because I agree. I think BYU's a sweet 16 level ball club. Oklahoma State has that level of talent, but our inconsistency, I think, is the simplification of the conference. We can beat anybody, but we can also get beat by 50. Well, and if you're going to make a run in this deal, like, that's what worried me about an Oklahoma State or West Virginia, who I saw up close and personal yesterday, you have to have somebody that you can ride, man, like somebody that is going to take over and get really hot and obviously you know with with the freshman on on uh parker's team and and obviously your team jake
Starting point is 00:06:57 and i think texas tech has has christian and j t toppin that that's just what it that's why the teams we're talking about i mean you look at what um josh jefferson and iowa stayed and you just let you just kind of have like a dude that you know potentially you can you can get on the back of and say, hey, man, take me to the next round or get hot at the right time. And they're hard to find it. It just so happens that the Big 12 is collected elite freshmen this year. I mean, the best team in the country has two freshmen starting. I think that's also a huge storyline.
Starting point is 00:07:33 It used to be in this league. If you were relying on freshmen, you're in trouble. And now you've kind of collected this elite group that are going to all be lottery picks. It's wildly fascinating and it's not going to stop. I mean, that's what these schools are going to continue. I'm talking high-end freshmen, right? Not just if you're leaning on two or three or four of them, you might be in trouble because that's kind of what Colorado's doing
Starting point is 00:07:58 and some other schools. But, you know, some of these dudes are freaks, man. And shout out to Arizona doing it old school. They don't have to shoot a bunch of threes to beat you. All inside the paint, man. Old school they've got, yeah. My silliness, I assume that Love was talking about Houston's two freshmen in Kings in Fleming and Chris Anack.
Starting point is 00:08:16 I totally wouldn't. No, I'm joking. No, I meant Kings of Lemings, but I mean, Arizona's got two of them that nobody thought, nobody thought Burry's was going to be like what he's been. He's just outperformed. Everybody knew Co-of-Pete was going to be good, but Burys has been, I mean, the difference in them being undefeated and them having three or four losses, if we're being honest. And it's been defensively, too.
Starting point is 00:08:40 And I think draft guys might have projected it, but I don't know if they had it this fast. I look at the league, though, you got Arizona, Iowa State, Houston, Kansas, BYU, Tech, that's six teams right there that, like, have a guy that can win you a game. Chris mentions it like, the goal is not to not play bad in March, just to win when you play bad anyway, right? And each of those guys can cover up a lot of mistakes. Central Florida, Baylor, TCU have all beaten good teams, right? I think that's fair. I think Oklahoma State's beaten good teams. Cincinnati has given good teams a tough time.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Like each of these, I think, have, and that's quickly getting up to the 8, 9, 10 range. I don't know that all of them get in. I think there's interesting arguments that you get to that point. And Cody mentioned last year how, like, yes, the SEC had 14 teams, whatever it was in, but no one thought tech was getting out of the first round. Or no one thought, right, those were all kind of just like, they're there, right? You know, also Rands. And I think that top end deal, we have Arizona, Iowa, State, Houston, Kansas, BYU Tech,
Starting point is 00:09:39 that could all make deep runs on a single player is pretty impressive. I'll tell you what you will dominate is the NBA draft. Well, yes. Yeah, because like, you know, Baylor has been underachieved, like, crazy this year, right? But they've got two guys, if you go look at a lot of the mock drafts, they've got two first-round draft picks on their team. I've seen them up close, obviously, Cameron Carr and the Yesafoo kid. I mean, one of them was a freshman.
Starting point is 00:10:05 The other one is just like just overachieved, and he's got some Twitch. anyway that that that part is wild like we may hear more big 12 schools called out in the first round the NBA draft than ever before it may break a record yeah well and that's the thing is i i bi you fans are sick of being so close to having one of those quality wins but it kind of screams to what the big 12 is doing right now but to your point Chris the talent level it's insane so let's let's let's just pass this along it's quality over quantity some of these other conferences may get more teams in but the big 12 the top end I'm hard to be. All right. We're going to flip the football here. Way too early power rankings are
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Starting point is 00:12:04 There's more to a Mazda because there's more to you. All right. So Shahan Jay Rajah from CBS Sports, obviously, has been very open to talking about the Big 12 conference gentlemen and obviously projecting how they look in the season ahead. And he did his way too early, Big 12 power rankings. And I think to the surprise of nobody, Chris levels, Texas Tech Red Raiders, top the poll as they should as defending champions. Chris, I want your sense of how the offseason has gone for tech. match the hype and the substance from what happened a season ago that led them to that big 12 championship this past year have they kind of been able to measure up yeah i mean they've you know they've got a lot back uh off of the the championship team they lost uh you know quite a bit um but they've got a lot back from their portal class a year ago that is going to return but the
Starting point is 00:13:01 the biggest thing obviously was an unexpected need in that you needed to go get a quarterback. And that probably is what vaults Texas Tech. And so if Brendan Sorsby plays anything like he has, and he's certainly going to be playing with the best team, I think, that he's ever been on, I think it certainly would bode well for Texas Tech. And their schedule is not extremely tough. There is no BYU on it. I mean, one of the toughest games may in fact be Eric Morris's, you know, pokes. I don't know what they'll be, you know, when Texas Tech goes to Stowater and then obviously Parker's Cougars come in early, which is another one of the tough games that they've got.
Starting point is 00:13:45 But there's just, I don't, you know, BYU on the schedule with all that they've got returning is not on their schedule. And so, you know, that part is interesting. But this offseason was all about Brendan Sorsby. And they added a lot. They added a lot of the more defensive linemen. and they had some guys that were hurt last year that never played it down that were part of the top portal class last year that are still here. So we shall see.
Starting point is 00:14:16 But I didn't disagree with where Texas Tech and BYU. And I wouldn't have necessarily had a problem if somebody would have picked BYU to lead the poll with everything that they've got back and everything like that. But that's how it sits. I did find it interesting that Iowa State was picked 16th in that deal. that's i think that caused a bit of a stir with the cyclone fans it did but when you have 17 guys from the roster this year left over it's a full reboot and so i cody i want to get to oklahoma state here momentarily let's take a minute for b yu the number two here in the poll and as shahan notes here and i think it's interesting notes this the cougars are the most undervalued team in college football
Starting point is 00:14:59 are going 23 and four of the past two years i'm glad somebody in the national media like shahun is acknowledging that. I just wish more people would, you know, actually realize what, what's going on there. The biggest thing, Chris, to your point is BYU, I'd be hard pressed to find another program in the country that if you went down the list of top talent you want to return just in terms of what you guys have on your roster that has eligibility remaining, BYU checked off every single box. They went 100 for 100% on their retaining their top talent. And that is, I think. And their and their head coach, which is the most important thing. Yeah. Correct. And that. I think has got some Cougar fans saying, okay, if with another year of development,
Starting point is 00:15:37 another year of getting these guys on the same page, considering their quarterback showed up last year in the middle of June, they think that they can make a run at this thing. But there is the big bad Texas Tech raters potentially showing up in Arlington to face off against you in the Big 12 title game. But without those two facing off in the regular season, I think it sets up kind of an easier schedule for both of them to potentially return and rematch there. Parker, obviously, your Houston Cougars want to insubes. assert themselves in that conversation.
Starting point is 00:16:05 What do you think of the chances of seeing a rematch in Arlington? Well, it's interesting because I think part of this will come down as Chris alluded to scheduling. And there will probably be some big picture conversation about like conference scheduling and evenness of that. Something in the future. Because like Houston, I think is decidedly better. They had the best recruiting class in school history, big time porta class per all the different metrics and things like that. Like they did well. They won 10 games last year.
Starting point is 00:16:32 when I look at like Gerard's top 10 here and first of all I should point out like a great guy like him on et cetera of the top 10 Houston is one of them and they play four of the others they don't play half of it the majority of their conference games are actually in the bottom half of his projected big 12 and like Oklahoma State's probably Houston's second toughest game and they're a big question like like most of that's because what happened with Utah I guess Utah would have been better at you know we don't really know enough about them either a question mark two but like Like, Houston plays tech super early and winning in Lubbock is hard, weird things happen, in Lubbock for the road teams, et cetera. They also beat your buddy a year ago pretty bad in your own place. And if I were going to play a transfer quarterback at some point in the season, I'd want it to be in mid-September when he's like getting adjusted to think. Like he's barely been in the system. I say to say that like Houston will probably have a shot at a really strong season again next year.
Starting point is 00:17:28 And I don't know that that means they're demonstrably better on the field or not. they should be. They brought in the talent. It'd be great to make the 10 win regular season, make a run in Arlington, whatever. They weren't mathematically at it until late last year. But I don't, I think they'll have some wins just so they don't play anybody, and that'll help. Okay. So Cody Stovall, I think the trendy pick for the Dark Horse are the Oklahoma State Cowboys. And it's because of what Eric Morris brings with him, Drew Mestemaker, Caleb Hawkins, just the talent he drew with him from North Texas. is to join him there in Stillwater.
Starting point is 00:18:03 What's the confidence level in Stillwater that this team can be the Arizona State of two years ago and really leap up? I mean, it's hard not to view an All-Star level quarterback as somebody that can drive you to new heights. It all will come down to is Drew Mestemaker legitimately an NFL first round kind of guy? If he is, then, yeah, Oklahoma State could be talking about nine plus wins. If there's a lot of things around him that don't quite fall in line in time, then it could be kind of of a moot point. The eighth positioning for Oklahoma State will essentially put us right around K-State last year, six to six overall. I think Oklahoma State fans should be happy with a six-and-six record. Therefore, I think eighth place in this power ranking is very fair. It'll all be contended
Starting point is 00:18:48 upon how well things gel. Parker mentioned it earlier, you know, when you have some early season opponents that can sometimes be a hindrance when you're trying to get so many new players, you know, on the same page. Oklahoma State is 64. new players. So as much as we're going to love the continuity of the new North Texas players come over, it's only 18 of them, right? So I think will they have the continuity schematically early enough to be ultra competitive? That is the unknown. That's what we don't know. The Drew Messmaker is as good as advertised, and we are good very early. Then, yeah, we could be talking about an Arizona State 16th, the first kind of conversation. Yeah, Drew Messamaker
Starting point is 00:19:26 is the least of their problems. And Eric Morris, is inevitable at some point. I mean, he is going to turn that thing around and they'll be very competitive. Their question is going to be on defense. That's where their questions will be. But do you kind of hear what we're saying here?
Starting point is 00:19:46 If anybody's listening to all of us, this league isn't very good, is it? Well, that's the concern. Yeah, and I think we're all, we all, everybody doesn't have a very strong schedule. What all are we? saying. I know that this is the Big 12th show, but this is the reality of the league that you're in and that there is almost no margin for error. Like, you're going to have to win the league
Starting point is 00:20:10 to get a bid. I don't, I think you're staring at a one bid league again, more than likely. Now, I can't say that for certain, but that's, that's what we're talking about here. And the margins are razor thin for everybody. I do think that there's a possibility that you could have built a schedule, though. Like, if you were tech and you played BYU, both Arizona's and Utah, like, you could have I'm just, what I'm saying it's like none of us
Starting point is 00:20:35 did that. No, no schedules got that. No, I know, but I mean, we've all got some mixture of,
Starting point is 00:20:40 ah, it's not that big of a deal. It's not going to be that tough or there's just a few games. And maybe it doesn't work out that way, but I think it's just an interesting point that we're all making that's the same point. Well,
Starting point is 00:20:50 let's break it down though. BYU's at large bids will hinge on one game. Notre Dame. Notre Dame. But you know, you know what's scary, Jake? Is that,
Starting point is 00:21:00 BYU could win that game. Yeah. And if BYU doesn't win the league, they may get left out of Notre Dame could still go in. And I disagree with that. But that's what could happen. It's where they've been the last two seasons. They've been sitting right on the doorstep of making it in. The College 12th playoff committee has found every reason.
Starting point is 00:21:24 I'm telling you, every reason under the sun to deny BYU entry into the playoff. And yeah, even potentially with the win over Notre Dame, who I think we're all expecting to be top five preseason, so can find BYU being on the outside looking in. And whoever does win, get it, it's in. The biggest thing that, and real quick, I want your eyes all thought on this. I think the overarching goal for the Big 12th season,
Starting point is 00:21:45 even if it's a one big league, just win, advancing the playoff. I think that's the one thing the Big 12 has got to do to start to change the mindset of the nation around this league is have whoever gets in, whether it's one or two teams, whatever it is, somebody's got to advance. They've got to win. I don't want no first round by as I can tell you that.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Sure. Yeah, that was a bit of a pickle last year. Yeah, but it is what it is. Yeah, it is what it is. The fifth spot in the 12-team playoff is pretty fortuitous. Yeah, no doubt about that. Parker, any thoughts on that before we roll along? No, I think you're right.
Starting point is 00:22:26 I think the other thing is unfortunate is like it's also going to be about if that team doesn't win a title, it's also about how you lose, right? Because, like, TCU did win a game, and no one talks about it because of how they lost, right? And, yeah, George has scored again. I mean,
Starting point is 00:22:41 so, like, tech could have beaten Oregon, and if they lost in a blowout fashion like that the next round, we'd probably still be catching the same jokes and strays and all that, right? Like, realistically, like, for better or worse, I think it's more about not just winning a game or two,
Starting point is 00:22:54 it's also about going off the air quotes right way, if that makes it sense. Yeah, very true. enough that's understandable. All right, coming up next, BYU and, you know, religious bigotry, back in the headlines. We'll talk about that next.
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Starting point is 00:25:24 Cody Stovall defend your Oklahoma State Cowboys and what they had to say about BYU last week. Go stupidity is not bigotry. That's what I have to say. Okay. Trying to, and I agree with the penalty and some of my Oklahoma State people are not going to be happy about that. But here's my deal. Did we say the thing that you're supposed to refrain from? No, not exactly.
Starting point is 00:25:48 But did we purposely say something so close that there would be controversy? Yes. And for that alone, I think we do deserve it. Right. Writing that fine line trying to be cute is completely unnecessary. because if you're doing that, statistics indicate that if you have a thousand people doing one thing, there's always going to be two or three or five or six or seven
Starting point is 00:26:08 that try to splinter off and do their own thing. And that opens up Pandora's box to a multitude of things. I can tell you that when this whole thing came down, I was insanely disappointed because I never thought that anything like this would even come close to happening in Stillwater. But it proves the point that you can try to be too cute for your own dag on good. And that's exactly what happened. And now we have a fine to go.
Starting point is 00:26:30 with it and we kind of deserve it because we tried too hard to be too cute. Jake, you know, obviously Texas Tech and BYU have played some meaningful games in the last, I don't know, three or four months and two to the two main sports. Yeah. And I think Texas Tech was cognizant of these chance out there in the ether, right? You know, happened to what? Colorado. Colorado, in Cincinnati.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Maddie. Obviously there's been allegations that happened to Kansas. Oklahoma State got dinged here. It happened to Arizona last basketball season. But Chris, I think you're going to make this point here. The one thing I've appreciated about Texas Tech is during the football season, Grant McCaslin was out there before the game and essentially said, make this about us. Don't make this about denigrating BYU or the faith that sponsors the institution. And then the same thing, the same thing, Joy, McGuire wandered out there and said the exact same thing. I've got to reiterate. I've said it on my podcast on Lockedong Cougars. I appreciate the way that Texas Tech has handled this. I believe it's the archetype, the model that the rest of the Big 12 should do in terms of avoiding this situation going forward.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Yeah, they have tried to get out in front of it, make it about us kind of a thing. And it puts Grant and Joey in a weird spot kind of going, why are they saying this to us? Because I think some people just don't, they're oblivious to like some of this, right? They're not in this world and aware of some of what people may have said or be thinking, whatever. But I would, and again, you can't control what people say. Like, here's what's weird is that I think Oklahoma State, Cody quit me if I'm wrong, I think they were fined 50,000.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Yeah. Okay. There was another fine last week. And it basically happened right in front of me in Orlando, Florida, because UCF was fine, 25 grand for storm in the court. There was not the time hadn't elapsed that there was still time left in the game. They were about to upset Texas Tech and here they all come. And I mean, we got phones and kids faces and middle fingers in kids faces like 10 feet away from me. You got a, you got a student doing chin-ups on the rim. I'm not joking. And there's still time on the
Starting point is 00:28:53 clock. I'm like, there's no technical foul. There's no bench, you know, this, there's no that. They had to get everybody off. And then they restormed it. And it was, and I was like, that's only worth 25, whereas you're saying stuff in the sands. It's worth 50. It's just, it's not a good look for the league having to find people. But I hope that some proactive, you know, like maybe getting some folks involved. on some of these campuses, we kind of get out in front of some of this stuff. College kids are the hardest thing to control, man, because as soon as you tell them, don't do this, guess what they're going to do?
Starting point is 00:29:31 They're going to do just that. Yeah, yeah. Well, again, I don't agree with our fan base trying to be too cute. But just for curiosity purposes, was that ref a Mormon? Or was that the closest thing our students actually could find? That part, I don't know the answer to. I would guess he was not. I think they're just, you mentioned trying to be a little too cute.
Starting point is 00:29:51 the sound of it obviously you could be very easily mistaken in the cacophony and noise that what Kevin Young was calling out he was like hey I've experienced this before I'm done with this that's why because he essentially said you know what screw it I'm gonna I'm gonna talk about this because I think he was he was frustrated with that situation I will say I think like it's interesting that a lot of other insults and I think to speak the severity of this a coach complaining with the crowd after loss when they shouldn't have lost would probably have been like he's just This is clearly saying everyone outside of student sections are taking very seriously. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:26 And I don't mean that that's supposed to be comforting, Jake. I know that that does not fix things. I think that is at least some like the conference like, hey, we're going to hitch these fines. Like they're trying to do those things. But as Chris said, like, I'm almost somewhat pleased that there's no handful of, you know, idiots, the handful of beverages. Because we didn't play each other in Houston, right?
Starting point is 00:30:46 It was in Utah just last week. I also say, and I'm going to jump in and make too much light of this, but there are other things to make fun of BYU for, including this guy's hair. We can go to Richie Saunders, right? Leave Richie alone. I just mean like, like, he's a stud, man. He's really, really good of basketball.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Like, be more, there's other things to say. Be more clever. Like, that's why, like, there's just be funnier. There's other things to say. Trust me. BYU writes the jokes for themselves. if you look close enough. So you don't have to go very far if you want to find them.
Starting point is 00:31:23 So I think the biggest thing is BYU is just trying to make sure that everybody themselves included feels comfortable competing in this league. So I can tell you just from my vantage point, BYU is extremely proud to be in this league. They're very thankful to the Big 12 gave them the opportunity to be here. I just think that they're just trying to make sure that, as I mentioned, everybody is comfortable and that includes their own fan base because there's a lot raw feelings around that shooting in grand blank michigan of that ld s church house and that that that that that that that's that's
Starting point is 00:31:54 that still resonates all those months later yeah yeah i don't know really how to follow up to that it's it's like a very yeah that that's yeah that's that's that's tough to you know just get to get into conversation about but yeah this is sports man this is just this is sports we we operate in the in the in the in the toy section of the uh of the of the of the store yeah yeah right so um um Um, Cody, give me another crass joke. You could have said that wouldn't have been nearly as offensive.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Ready, set. Go. I just give him the golf clap. That's what I was just like doing. Don't, don't ask him to do that. You're just asking it to get him in trouble.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Just, I got it. Data cut it. Just check out Kyle Van Nuys next appearance with Pat Mac if you and have plenty of jokes to work with. I would just say that. All right. That's going to do it.
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