Locked On Jayhawks - Daily Podcast On Kansas Jayhawks Football & Basketball - Big 12 SQUAD - Can Big 12 Make a March Madness run through Texas Tech and Houston?

Episode Date: March 26, 2025

Can the Texas Tech Red Raiders and Houston Cougars dominate March Madness? With Big 12 teams like BYU and Arizona making waves, the NCAA Tournament is heating up. Dive into the latest basketball insights as Chris Level and Parker Ainsworth dissect Texas Tech's underdog status despite their high-paid coach, and Houston's strategic path to the Final Four. The conversation shifts to coaching dynamics, with Derek Johnson speculating on Bill Self's future at Kansas. Cody Stovall highlights a wrestling upset, where Wyatt Hendrickson toppled Olympic champion Gable Stevenson, sparking excitement in the wrestling world.Join the discussion for expert analysis and insider perspectives on the Big 12's tournament journey. Don't miss out on these game-changing insights!

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squad and we have a seat for you know her feelings and thin skin allows squad up. You. Welcome into the big 12 squad Duke stadium replaced Baylor in the squad open this week because it's only appropriate after whatever that was. We've got Chris level talking all things Texas tech, Cody Stovall talks Oklahoma state, whatever they're good at. Christian wrestling, wrestling. I was about to say bro, don't you disrespect light that way.

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The the Geico pig commercial, the one commercial with the phone ringing the we commercial one commercial with the phone ringing The we commercial the one with the phone ringing Did anybody else not remember the pig commercial because I have someone in my house who was like what is this and I'm like It's 15 years old The legend Maravitz wasn't even born when that first came out. I don't think I think it was right as I was born even born when that first came out. I don't think I think it was right as I was born. They have

then see the big commercial. The one where they plugged in the iPhone, the iPhone was the outlet was singing. Remember that? Or that like, Oh, yeah, that was last year. Last year. Yeah, this year's are somehow even more insufferable. What's the just shack thing they're doing too? The Shaq shower? Shaq shed or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Only four of you. I say only. It's the most in Big 12 history. Tied for the most. Get to relive those commercials every single week. BYU, Texas Tech, Arizona, and Houston are moving on. Chris? We're Big 12 fans.

We all get to live it. What are you talking about? Yeah, you're going to root for them. Come on, man. I had someone in my postgame Sunday that was like, yes, that will numb the pain of a 23 point loss to Duke and our fourth straight exit in the first in the first weekend. That's what I'm going to be at. At least I could pull for BYU now. You have the bojo. If you're not in the tournament, think about that, Ken. You don't have BYU.

And Taylor, you're going to be in the tournament. You're going to be in the tournament. You're going to be in the tournament. You're going to be in the tournament. You're going to be in the tournament. You're going to be in the tournament. You're going to be in the tournament. You're going to be in the tournament. You're could pull for BYU now. You have the bojo? You don't have any paint if you're not in the tournament. Think about that can you don't have paint?

Well BYU and Tater Tots how many times have you heard the Tater Tots story the last 10 days? Cody's team still in the tournament? That's right baby. You guys are in the tournament? In North Texas has a staff luncheon so they have to come to Stillwater. That is absolutely ridiculous. That is absolutely ridiculous.

It didn't go well the last time that happened. It is. Isn't it really interesting though how it does feel like conference realignment has changed the way a lot of the other teams like view other teams in their conference like when it's become Big 12 and ACC against the big dogs it feels like some- Those are the ones where the Utah fans root for the ACC.

I think that's what you're hinting at. Yeah. Good job, Jay. Drake. I'm glad you still watch even though you were in Richie roots for Arizona, right? Oh, somebody here has to, someone in the big 12 spot. That's ESPN's fault though. JT, I mean, what you said is cause we get, we get the three letter sec thrown, I mean,

shoved down and mentioned and how many teams and percentages and it makes everybody just want to throw up. And so you, you do kind of, I think have a little more conference pride than maybe you used to. The sec is great at giving us the St. Bill Bill Snyder treatment on a continuous basis. That is very true. Good call, Chris. And a babe.

Do we need to designate someone on this show each week to, to defend Arizona? I'll do it. Richie Bradshaw. I would love Paul to do it. I kind of want to hear what Richie's got to say. Yeah. I would just love Paul to do it.

I would just love Paul to do it. I would just love Paul to do it. I would just love Paul to do it. I kind of want to hear what Richie's got to say. I would just love Paul to do it. I'll take an hour to rep Caleb Love. Honestly same. Was he the one that did the girlfriend thing or the other guy did the girlfriend thing? Who was in the wrong there? I'll take Teo from Notre Dame. That's a ho! That one BYU kid from 2011.

You guys remember that? Oh yeah. Davies baby. Davies. Come on, come on. Yeah, where is Hatch? Wait a second. No, we don't need Hatch, we're good.

We don't need him. I think he's having another kid in celebration of the Wisconsin game. There we go. No, he's standing guard over the men's thing and making sure that Davies sings doesn't happen. Can't have it. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you, the refs almost impregnated BYU in that game. the excited we're gonna go with that. That made more sense than what would have happened to the mojo guy. Booby Miles man. I believe Booby Miles is out of prison. Oh!

I can't confirm that though. I have his number I could call him. You did interview him or you almost interviewed him. No even worse I did a whole puff piece about him until someone called the station and said, why are you hyping up this S.A.er? Yeah, he's on like six lists. He did not play for the Spurs. To my defense, to my defense, no Google stories, but definitely on the registry.

Check that first, local sports reporters. 2023, according to Wikipedia, Miles Ascendant said 13 years in prison. This was after this was two years after I did a story on him. Year and a half after I did a story on him. I don't think he's going to answer your texts. Is this three or five weeks? We probably got a new number.

Am what did you say to that guy for him to fall off the rails a year later? What did you do? Dude? All I'll say is I don't want to piss that dude off. He is massive. Like if you're pissing him off, you're in a bad way. Um, not gonna say well, listen, like, off stories, NBA Youngboy got a present today. Thank you.

Okay. Back to focus somehow. Top rope there. Very good. NBA Youngboy, March Madness, I like it. Who had booby miles in the first segment? My first little favorite thing, you wore the hat man. I was having a good time.

My favorite thing to come out of March Madness so far are Andy Patton's hands, just follow along. The NCAA Tournament is here and so is the bracket breakdown. Locked on Podcast Network and Amazon Fire TV channels are teaming up to deliver NCAA tournament coverage like never before. Watch studio shows featuring former players and Locked On's local experts as they guide you

through every upset, buzzer beater and bracket matchup. Stream it all for free on Amazon Fire TV channel. Search bracket breakdown to see it all for free. It's your team every day. The sour lemon at the end too. He says for free twice and instantly regress it. You can see on his face as the camera's zooming away. He's like, Oh, I did it. The one we actually run. I'm usually getting ready for the read when that's

happening. I didn't notice he does that. The producers like cut, great. Love it. This is good. One take. I got Ricky Bobby going to do my hands thing. He puts like the crab claws on its belt. He like lowers toward the belt and then breaks it up.

It's like he's trying to grab a belt buckle, like, you know, like a belt buckle. But there's no buckle to grab, yeah. He was told, do not put your hands in your pockets. No. He's like. He's put your hands in your pockets. No. Steeple method for a bit. And then I don't know what to do with my hands. We do need to be nice to Pat and Doug's going to ag and zag

and pull him into this thing. Right. That's part of it. That's how can we talk about how awesome it is that Gordon Hayward and Mountaineer Paul are coworkers. Wow. Tegna signs each of their paychecks right now colleagues drinking buddies they kill me back uh i do it does gordon hayward have a mountain dew deal

that's the real trick there's a fishing story coming i'd imagine someday better uh coming up basketball texas Tech is moving on. So is Arizona BYU and Houston. We got two of the guys, Parker Ainsworth and Chris Level here on the Locked On Big 12 Squad. Today's show is brought to you by Monarch Money. I'm 24, right? So the whole money thing doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

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chance that only move the elite eight to go even further right now. Yeah I'm absolutely. I can't. You know what's interesting is is that you have an $8 million coach and John Calipari. They I think rumors are they've got about a seven to $10 million payroll and they're the big underdog really this left in the whole deal. Yeah. Yep. I mean, them and BYU.

Agreed. I mean, BYU ain't no underdog. They tried to paint themselves out to be an underdog to VCU. I mean, do you see the dollar figures that they're throwing around? Oh, yeah. Unfortunately, yes. Yeah, when the preseason poll next year comes out, you will be ranked in the top five preseason.

No, top 15, maybe. They're gonna have the number one pick in the 2026 draft. They're gonna be inflated just for the TV dollars. And they're gonna poll in the transfer board. It pains me to say this, but it's not gonna shock me at all if Texas Tech and Houston are in San Antonio.

And I always say that because it pains me all this that Parker Ainsworth talks about his freaking coos carrying the water for Kevin Sampson. Yeah, but I know Malik Wilson personally great kid talked to him the other day. I will root for him. I just it pains me that Parker will get some sort of glee and positivity out of the whole thing if that's what happens. I had nothing to do with JT Topping in toss that one time. I had nothing to do with that.

I know what is it with crotch kicks and guys getting injected from big 12 teams. It's the only time I've ever seen this rule applied but- Yeah. We teaching this- We got hidden cameras in locker rooms paying attention to folks on some of these games, but not others. I like how, by the way,

they love how they hyped it up. Like look at this wholesome moment. And it's the most BYU moment ever. He's like, yeah, he looks awkward. Get a stop, get a stop. Come on, we're almost there. And it's like taking him a second. He's like, yeah. the ball. I don't think I still understand and they

brought in gene because gene is just a staple of March Madness to give you his thoughts on the whole pivot pivot. He wasn't even looking at the guy. I don't think you can intentional crotch shot at him. Yes,

Cameron. Genuine question here because I haven't seen it in the women's game. Does that get officiated crotch shot? Yes. I don't think that's a good question. I don't think that's a good question. I don't think that's a good question. I don't think that's a good guy. I don't think he can intentional crotch shot at him. Yes, Cameron. Genuine question here, because I haven't seen it in the women's

game. Does that get officiated? Crotch shot? Oh, wow. It's a fair man. This is just a men's rule. It's a good one. You know, it's like it's an unnatural act in both, but I think we have more of like the antennas up when it's a men's game.

Let's go to Steve Simcox, the big 12th champion for the women's side on TCU. Oh, wait. Oh no. Well, send it to G. I miss Simcox. I want Simcox here. That's really where I come from.

I want Simcox here. Are we arguing that it shouldn't have been a foul call or are we arguing that he shouldn't have been ejected? Cause I don't think he should have been ejected, but I thought it was a foul. My Simcox impression. You want to do it again? Simcox impression.

Not to your bull, but impression. There you go. Can pull all my hair to one side. Just every bit of it. I'm going to try to have bigger eyebrows. The late or but yeah, whatever happened to that guy, uh, Houston Parker Answorth in the sweet 16 as well. They were, I said it a couple of weeks ago on the show after the, or I guess we here when the bracket came out a lock for the final four if anybody is in

the big 12. That's not something that is abnormal to say or weird to say they won the conference regular season postseason that the best that the best team in the big 12 and I think my opinion hasn't changed whatsoever. They still seem to be the best suited school out of what's left the big 12 to make a final full run. Yeah. And they've got frankly, I would say on paper in an intrudently neutral site, the easiest path to the challenge is that that neutral site is Indianapolis and you're playing Purdue and then the winter of Tennessee and Kentucky. Those are all, I think the furthest is a three hour drive and Houston's about a

thousand miles, right? So like it's functionally, it's going to be a road game. Houston was undefeated on the road this year. Um, I will say that like, it feels like the last several years, something has happened where like someone's ankle, you knock on wood or something like that. Weird happens because it's a bunch of one game samples, but Houston played the toughest eight seed I think I've ever seen in good set. I mean, and I'm going to be biased here and and all that but like they were eighth in Ken Palm and eighth in that region Mississippi State really tough eight seed I'm gonna have

to disagree on this one I just it was I think preparation well done Drake I like how that was your bold take on such a tough like it was yeah I think they're the most likely to go there when they were literally a one scene. Sorry. I know ball JT, my dad, the team that I thought was going to win. Right. Still a hundred percent. Yeah, man. I'm still undefeated guy. BYU. What is one of your brackets? Is it like your fourth, your fifth, your sixth? I am okay. I did four brackets. I did four brackets. The first bracket is the, what I actually believe,

it's the number one one that is not very good right now. The second bracket is your, your Baylor wins the national championship. Everyone has an alma mater bracket or they should. That's not your one bracket? No. That one's not doing too hot. Fake.

That one's not doing too hot. And then my third bracket, that one's the chaos bracket. The fourth is the one that you go through that like, five minutes before and you just, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, and that's it. So I have four. I don't think-

That's one big BYU to win. Yes. I don't think it's that crazy to have four brackets. What about the bracket where it's determined like which mascot can beat up the other one? Who would win that? Pistol feet. The Johnny's? Are which mascot can beat up the other one? Hmm, who would win that? Johnny's are the Johnny's what is Johnny not New Yorkers man? They're the worst people you know, so I don't

Is now where a devil would win most matchups? Could if the bears quick enough Here's a trick in the mascot game I know that they're technically the Cougars But be why use like a very holy like be why you and the devil that be your final matchup, right? I mean that that's This is the one that Cody actually win something in yeah the only one with a gun, the Rob Raiders and the Colt. It's a Stikelo! It's a Corsica, a Grapple, a Reckress, a Haken. It's a double-nature, one-on-one, and a fiddle-maker.

Are you in a fight? Does Pete have enough volunteers? Does Pete have enough? Does Pete have enough? With enough volunteers, you can... And undetermined amount of volunteers is pretty good. Does Pete have two pistols? Does Pete have two pistols?

One pistol, two pistols. Oh. One pistol, two for Pete. Two. All day. I mean, he's also got a shotgun, so. We have a cannon and a musket. Valid. He does have good goals.

Indeterminate amount of mountaineers. The finger of God. And potentially endless amount of Mountaineers as well You guys are fighting for second place. So They're gonna be sober because you know, there's no weed Blue Devils more like tap or tick tock. This is to mainstream Again, there's a this is a tornado. I don't know who can put up a tornado That's true

Just going double verse What a Christmas level control That's true. And well, you just go in the double verse. Level control. I mean, like, Well, for Oklahoma, no basements in Oklahoma. No, no, no need them. Don't need them. Next year wins. All right.

I don't. Why are our name tags blue I still don't understand what went wrong make the name tags I thought you were the BYU representative and you did that. This is Jake's way to get back. Did you know Cameron Stewart's the biggest Duke fan that I know? Did we mention this? Did anyone mention this? Did he make the intro? Former.

Why do you keep going back for him? He would wear Duke stuff when we were hosting show together. So you were pleased with the weekend result. This is not this is slander granted. I know more about Duke basketball than pretty much anyone that was in that arena outside of John Shire, but that this is this is slam. I will not a black Duke winners is Is that's a not a puff piece. Although I did pick Duke with the national championship. And there it is.

Can I Google that you're a Duke fan? Was that on Google? Jay Billis versus. I don't know. It probably isn't some sort of registry. But I don't know about the wiki now. What'd you say about the registry? Back up in this segment.

Austin, what did you say about the registry? To be fair, I was a fan of Duke before it was cool. Now everyone's Duke fan. When was it cool? When was it cool? I'm gonna read. To be fair, I was a fan of Duke before it was cool. Now everyone's Duke fan. When was it cool? When was it cool? It is cool now. Johnny Duncan's back in the days of Johnny Duncan's. Yes, exactly.

Where's Mike Gittins? Mark Allery guy. Where's the Mike Gittins? Bobby Daly? Danny Ferri. All time assist leader? Also a purple leader. Apparently not a top 10 Duke player

according to some Bleacher Report bracket from a few weeks ago. He's not a top 1000. You're reading Bleacher Report brackets on Duke the I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not having a good time, but you know what? I'm pretty sure everyone is still on spring break in their head. So I don't know how many people even know what's going on in 10 years. What are you not on spring break? Let's say, isn't that just like the interior? We're accentuating the problem. There might be people still down at Rocky Point. You know, I went to waste management this year and they were telling war stories of

last year where there was like a rain, a rain delay in the middle of the tournament on Sunday. And Arizona State had bussed in students for their fraternity formals. They like all had them the same day they are, and they ran the place out of booze and had to, they had like riot police on hand for these Arizona state frat kids. So you know that, that meme, that gif of like the security guard who like is walking up and he's like barely touching Anyone to like pat him down as they're going into the stadium That was the waste management security like they're just kind of sitting there like hey, please don't go in and like

Hundreds of thousands of people are going in it's like well This is gonna go well, and it's like the toughest event in America to get to so they're like once you've gotten here It's like you've earned it. You can do it Dude, you didn't even need a ticket I'm the scam glad woman and buy yourself a beer I have the band on still so how many bands how many bands are there there probably 20 or so I would say this one's a well now what's your favorite why would would they smell plastic? Um, I think why you wants his favorite is be like, okay, sorry that they have the best

cumulative win percentage between football and basketball of any big 12 school. Whoa. Oh, we're talking about schools that are good. Sorry, JT. We're not mentioning Utah. And then Drake's like, how did the names get blue? Yeah. I'm mentioning Utah every show. And then Drake's like, how did the names get blue? Yeah. Yeah. It's just the Tim Robinson meme. We're all trying to find out who did this.

Makes me know the big 12 squad's gonna be entirely blue background, all of it. Everything top to bottom. This one says WNMWAP. WAP. Which stands for White Nissan Maxima with Arkansas plates, which is my car. So Pull this off They gave access last week didn't they did that they gave you producer access to this show

Five national players of the year that are not on this list and Jasonason tatum who's out the second round is on the list come on tatum might be number one this is ridiculous later should be number one nick was born in 2009 big zion guy he loved richie bobby hurley is way too low on that list the all-time assist leader in the ncaa that's right he's way too low on that list. The all-time assist leader in the NCAA. That's ridiculous. He's way too low. Lewald Deng should not be on this list. Lewald Deng is a great player.

Great year. That's, that, Maravets, that's ridiculous. Let's get locked on Blue Devils on here. Why not? They're part of the opening. Zion Williamson shouldn't be on that list. Zion is one, Chris. At his peak?

Not even on there, Chris? It is peak. JJ his peak? Not even on there Chris, it is peak. JJ Reddick, I thought he was the Lakers coach. Yeah. JJ Reddick, the Lakers coach. So many, so many questions. He played five years, how did he play five years? The podcaster. Drake.

All time leader is a goal man. Four, five, six. No, that's five years, two, three, four, five, six. Well, he would have played his first game in November 02. Well, I mean, yeah. But that's not a cheese. It, two. I mean, yeah, but that's how good that is. Not really how you do it, but Leighton or a grant. Yeah. Cause Zion only played one year. Okay. So that makes more sense. That's kind of stupid player of the year.

Johnny Dawkins leaving the all time winning score. So good. Oh, one Duke. It's both. Yeah. Booser, baddie, a redic really good team. We still, we do that team. Oh spent. That team. Somebody's triggered. Where's the stadium? Oh, and you're also like we're gonna move later in the front. That's like the worst day. Later is

one of the top 10 college basketball players of all time. And if we're going off the Parker Ainsworth model of who's the greatest laters should be so far in first place for making four final fours. Parker's tried. Tell me. LJ Crier is the best player. Big twelfth. I'm not sure. I'm And if we're going off the Parker Ainsworth model of who's the greatest, Leightoners should be so far in first place for making four final fours.

Parker, try to tell me LJ Cryer is the best player, Big 12 history. He gets out of the net in April. He gets out of the net in April. We're going to stay. We're up there while we're here. He gets out of the net in April. He's got two titles. He's not better than Bobby Huggins.

LJ Cryer has only been in the Big 12. He'd have won it four times. If he gets out of the net in April, he have won it four times. If he cuts down on net name, he'd put it down two-count. Time out, Parker. Can you count a Houston player that didn't play in the Big 12? Can you count?

He was at Baylor first. So he was in the Big 12. He's won a title with them. He won a title with us. Sounds like that's one of the greatest Baylor players ever. I said Big 12. I said Big 12 player.

No. Houston's big 12 player Houston's greatest ever. Manipulation. Akeem Elijah won't be the best Houston player. He didn't play in the big 12. South West Conference. Chris can bag me the South West Conference right Chris? South West Conference days? Yeah Chris. Hey shut out to Ralph Sampson. Oh wait. Oh wait. No sorry. So there was this. There was this old man who played basketball for Baylor, like in the fifties or sixties.

And some of those guys you meet, they're on a club or something, you know, they're, they're part of the alumni association. They come to the games and wave when the old guys come on the field. He was not, he was suspenders lived in a trailer, real rough and tumble guy, probably mid seventies. And he called one, he, he put on Facebook marketplace some for some reason when Baylor renovated the Farrell Center, they took out all of the banners and threw them away. They just put them in

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tournament coverage like never before. Watch studio shows featuring former players and Locked On's local experts as they guide you through through every upset buzzer beater and bracket matchup. Stream it all for free on Amazon Fire TV channel. Search bracket breakdown to see it all for free. It's your team every day. All right, Big 12 got four teams in Sweet 16. SEC has seven level. I know you're pretty passionate about this topic. I think if the Big 12 had 13 teams, 14 teams allowed to play in March Madness at some level, Kim, there you're going. Punching buttons on Michael.

We can still hear it. It's the, it's the preheat, man. I can't control that. What's for dinner tonight? Another hot dog. No, Big smack and cheese. Don't be ridiculous.

I feel like the big 12 had 14 teams and we would have the odds. Obviously skyrocket. We would have 567 teams in the sweet 16 because now you have a much better chance to do so. To me, no one here is arguing that Albert would be there. No one here is arguing that Tennessee is bad or Alabama's bad, but did we need Texas here? Did we need Oklahoma here? The saturation, oversaturation of the SEC this year in March Madness just made the tournament kind of suck.

But it was different this year than in years past. We had this discussion last week. The SEC rep. AT's daddy talk. Here we go. We had this discussion. That's because I try to bring a level head Chris, as Chris level often does to these conversations. What was the difference between

the sec in basketball versus football in football? There was a media push to get these sec teams in based on hypotheticals in basketball. They went out there and got really good wins. So I didn't have a against each other. What do you mean? Really good? No conference. The conference was 500 against each other 500 500 on the year Like this is different in the past like the big 12 has obviously been in the past anointed as the best basketball conference But this year that was universally believed to be the I don't I don't know There's because you're not wrong with drake. I think he not wrong, but Drake is wrong. I think he is wrong. By volume, they should have. But I think he is wrong.

Yeah, I think he's wrong too. Not a single SEC team has a top 100 strength of schedule. Did you know that? In non-conference, not a single SEC team had a top 100 strength of schedule. But they got massive head-to-head wins. They were at a top 100. Yeah, okay.

I feel like you make up for that with all the ranked wins in your conference. Head-to-head wins has to matter. And they be head-to-head, they'd be a tons of teams head-to to matter. And they beat head to head. Well, yeah, but then how do we quantify head to head wins when there are 12 of them, 13 of them? We bring in strength of schedule to show you

because they're all, like, transitive property doesn't work just because Georgia beat UConn and then UConn beat Mississippi State doesn't necessarily mean that Georgia's better than Mississippi State, right? So we give you a strength of schedule metric that's going to tell you what your strength of schedule was based on who you played. The SEC was not in the top 100.

Sure, a team like Vanderbilt went to Atlantis and beat Villanova. That seemed cool then, then Villanova sucked. So just cause their non-conference was great and they go into conference play and for every Tennessee win against Alabama and Alabama win against Tennessee, they cut each other out, cancel each other out.

And the SEC just gets to stay at number one. Well, and moreover, the big tugs, like they have seven teams in Sweet 16, they also sent seven home. They sent, like, like seven went home for the first Monday. That's, we're not saying Alabama and Auburn aren't good. It's that we knew that the bottom three and four teams didn't deserve to be there. They went there because the Jersey patch next to the Nike logo. That's the only reason they were there. And the big 12 should have had five teams.

Nick, we need to talk about what's going on there in Ames, man. Like, I know there's a lot of tech fans that were really disappointed in TJ and his team's effort there. Destroyed my bracket. There were a lot of cyclone fans that were also disappointed. That is not a one-sided affair.

I don't really want to get into it, because I'm one of them. Ole Miss just did whatever they wanted. What happened for the week? Speaking of disappointing, speaking of disappointment, Derek Johnson, everyone. Bang.

Hey, what are you talking about? We're just getting an early run on the transfer form. At least with what the issue is. He might're just getting an early run on the transfer. He might not be wrong. There's a scary thing. Kansas J-Ox. End of an era. We're losing and Cam Rising in the same year. AARP is getting some love. You see, it was, who's, Dickinson's entered the transfer portal and he's got offers from LinkedIn. He's got like 750. Yeah.

Did you guys notice there was that commercial going on with Dickinson? He was on multiple. You say commercial? Was it this one? The NCAA tournament is here and so is the bracket breakdown. Locked on podcast network and Amazon fire TV channels are teaming up. It's it's the show in that one. But I don't know if you guys noticed it was like happening

like during the game as soon as the game ended. I have never seen him on it again. I'm about the haircut commercial. Yeah. So like what I'm asking did great clips, you know, give the cut hundred. Is it cake? It's a cake.

It's already talking about the skims commercial. The I've been fritty Bradshaw for just a second because I have I they didn't fire Bobby Hurley and it just frustrates me. I could put him on the hot seat and said hot seat. We'll start with Nick here yet Nick Otzelberg struggled to win in March and Scott Drew's gone through this last few years, where the greatest regular season coach of all time and just can't get past the first weekend, do what do we do?

Do we hypnotize Otzelberger to get rid of his fear of the Sweet 16? I've actually been thinking about this a little bit, just because there's been so much conversation about like, is this a disappointing season for Iowa State? And I think that's a totally different conversation. But one thing that it seems like Altaberg does is run these teams into the ground

right before the tournament. And so maybe expanding to more than an eight player rotation, maybe utilizing Damarian Watson or Kate Kelderman earlier in the season would have given this team a bit of a chance, but it felt like they just had absolutely nothing. Obviously you mentioned Chris Level, the struggle shooting against Ole Miss and Ole Miss just literally could not miss and I can't do anything about that.

But Milan seemed like they had he had no legs like he was shooting entirely with his upper body and I don't know how much of that plays into the fact obviously he missed those seven games in the middle of the season, but just aware and tear going on to the scene. So that's where my mind goes immediately is, is it paying off to really run this super aggressive scheme all year long, especially with two extra conference games, or is there something to be said

of incorporating more guys into the rotation, and or maybe not going just to the wall all day every day? That's where my mind went immediately. And Nick, what I would say is ask Parker Ainsworth how his head coach runs his team all year long. And I only use eight guys and nobody grinds their guys down more than Kelvin, excuse me, Kevin Sampson. Yes.

He's gonna come for you Chris, if you keep doing that. He gets pissed about that. I know, and I'm kidding, right? Yeah, and he better pronounce Kizagorite. It's an interesting point because if you keep doing that, he gets pissed about that. I know, and I'm kidding, right? And he better pronounce Gonzaga right. It's an interesting point because if you look back at past national champions, here's the most recent bench minute rankings for the past like seven champions, 242, 229, 301, 234, 317, 302. Championship teams don't play deep benches.

Derek had that so ready from last year, by the way. the the the the the the the the the that when you go into a new season spring, it's warming up a little bit. Maybe those medium sized shirts are just getting a little too tight. Those mediums, baby.

I mean, TJ, his biceps, he is hitting the push downs. And you make a great point. I don't know if maybe moving to a BYU type rotation is the move for Iowa State, but it's immediately where my mind went to because obviously with injuries, this team struggled to get eight guys on the floor. And so when you see extended minutes from tomorrow and Watson, and obviously

later in the tournament, Kate Kelderman, it's like, why are they not playing earlier if you're struggling with potential legs and conditioning issues? It feels like towards the end of the season, why are we not exploring that earlier? But Nick, I would say like, cause Houston's had the injury thing having a couple of years in a row now. And I would point out like, how many, I don't know where you put Kishon Gilbert on your like ranking of Iowa State Cyclones

I'd imagine it's pretty high how many teams could like lose that guy and and win the whole goal Yeah, no that doesn't happen very often for anyone. It doesn't but also it's just it's tough I mean, yeah, he's a big hole to fill but I did graph out his his Actual contribution towards games and it was lower in the second half of the year. And they still got wins there. So I don't have a good answer for you, unfortunately. I'm sitting here in front of my coach in this team, but that was where my mind went to immediately. But you're right, mom, Filovich is banged up.

And then Lipsy's banged up. And take Lipsy more banged up. Lipsy's got like seven different things wrong with them. And then Keyshawn Gilbert, who already didn't play a ton the last month, they were ready to go without him. But with not having him on the floor gives you one less option. Whereas Kevin Young can look eight guys down the bench and be like,

oh look, here's another one. Let's just throw that kid into the game and see what he's able to do for us. That's good. But see at the other end of things like you guys have made two sweet 16s in the previous three years. Right, but that's this was a final four team when it was fully healthy. This was an elite eight minimum. Yeah, I agree. But not, no, yeah, now it's over, right? We didn't even make the second weekend. I do think yes, further than Kansas. Let's note that. No, but that's what I'm saying. You guys have made two sweet 16s. Kansas made made one sweet 16 to 2019. Now they probably would have in 2020 and like they won the title the year they want it. So you get bonus points for that. But like I guess what I'm saying is should we be vilifying TJ Otzelberger? No, no, no. I went there. I feel like Houston was the best team in America before Jamal Shad went down last year, but they are also had three other guys in rotation hurt at that point. Like injuries are just part of the bad luck of it.

We're going to play a bunch of one game samples, convinced to three weeks at the end of a long season like that. That's just part of this thing we do. What was that? Would oldness even have been there if West Virginia would've made the tournament? They probably would have been better question. Yeah. I mean, what, obviously Tucker DeVries, you know, he was injured, so he didn't deserve to get in.

Listen, I told everybody on the show, like obviously I got really close with his family over the course of time. Why he was there. Burn the bridges. Going on there. Right? Yeah, I did. Didn't I? Well, I mean, they wouldn't even talk to him anymore. So it doesn't matter. Right. But it was tendonitis. I said it multiple times. That, I did. Didn't I? Well, I mean, they wouldn't even talk to him anymore. So it doesn't matter. Right. But it was tendonitis. I said it multiple times. That was the diagnosis.

Doctor Mountaineer Paul? Well, that's according to that's according to his uncles. I, you know, I saw him. How many Mountain Dews per day we have. Stay healthy, Doctor Paul. Do Paul. Doctor, you know, it's actually funny. You were talking about that, that crazy scenario in Arizona and I

was thinking about the time I got stuck in Myrtle Beach during black bike week. That was incredible. I got very out of place. I was very out of place there. I really was. Exciting whites. This is the story. Good segue.

Go ahead. Third tree for their tendonitis. I didn't even know it was a thing. Youendri for their tendonitis. I didn't even know it was a thing. You didn't know about tendonitis? No, I didn't know about black bike week. Learn us. Well, I mean, it's kind of like the black national championship game, similar to that, right? Which where, uh, gentlemen of culture get together and ride Harleys and motorcycles together.

It just happens to be a very dangerous time as well. Similar to like if the hells angels were doing it, except the reverse, I guess. Uh, and so I was in the middle of that after had stolen a car and you're saying, you'll burn the lead. You stole a car. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Chris, you're behind on this. We were here for that. I think what kind of Paul is saying is it was a dangerous

because it was a burn orange 2004. So we go before we go further, Paul. It was a dangerous time, a dangerous time in Myrtle Beach because it was a biker rally. Nothing else just the biker rally. Paul now what car did you steal? A burnt orange 2004 Pontiac Vibe that I stole some license plates from a black one and tried to put it on the car and it did not work. And obviously when the cops saw that, when I was in Myrtle Beach parking lot, I was arrested. Walmart parking lot.

Hashtag America, I guess. Yeah. Well, to put the other guy on the hot seat, Derek Johnson. I can't follow that. The kids with Jayhawks had yet another disappointing march. Bill Self last offseason was taking calls from Oklahoma State just being a good buddy, being a good pal, letting them know what they should do and opening a membership at local country clubs as well.

This is like a, this is a thing, you know, just doing that. If somebody wants to fly me out somewhere and pay for my golf, I'm in, you know? And you become a member forever and it's not nefarious at all. Are you, but you didn't fly out there. He didn't go to Stillwater, he just opened a membership at the golf club. Derek, what's happening with Bill Self in Kansas right now? There were some rumors, I guess you could call it,

about that Texas was gonna be the new school that would try to lure him away. I don't really believe that one at all. I think right now, we could be on the last legs of Bill self this next year Darren Peterson's coming in. He's the number one player on draft expresses way too early. You know draft for that your number two prospect. And there are some you know I don't know a little bit of scuttlebutt but the like could it be his final year? That like, you know, he wanted to stay around for one more year to coach this kid because he's gonna be a very special talent. Now, who knows?

Maybe he coaches him, they have a good year, reinvigorates you, boom, you're around for five more years. I don't know, but like, I don't think it would be unreasonable that we're talking Kansas coaching search in a year or two. Wow. That'd be crazy. But like- Who do you want to- For him retiring,. I think that's true. Obviously. Do you want to follow? Do you want to follow self? Well, I mean, people asked that about Roy Williams. I did self want to follow.

I went Williams. They're like that. Is that a philosophical question? There's actually a really good story with that. It was Bill self didn't even know if he wanted to follow. I mean, I think that's true. I think that's true. I think that's true.

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I think that's true. I think that's true. I think that's true. I think that's true. want to follow Roy Williams there. Is that a philosophical question? There's actually a really good story with that. It was Bill Self didn't even know if he wanted to follow Roy Williams. And he called his dad and was like, am I sure I want to take this? And his dad kind of scolded him and was like, you know what, if you have that mentality, you're too soft for this. And it ended up making him take the job. So he left Illinois for it.

But yeah, I mean, you would think you'd have your pick the litter. I don't know, like the names that people like to toss around, you know, Nate Oates and Tommy Lloyd and Todd golden and stuff at the same point in time, we just saw how the Kentucky one went and like, it felt like they got denied by a couple of people. So you never really know. But Todd golden, be careful anytime you got a job, anytime. It's your son double head coach. I'll say this Chris your former guy I don't know another Chris Chris beard is a name that I know Bill

self wouldn't mind seeing as his successor. Yeah his good beards agent is the guy named Brett just and yeah I think there was a lot of interest in Indiana from their camp I think he yeah he, he's, he's been keen to, he doesn't stay anywhere for very, very long. So I think, yeah, if Indiana would have been that job, yeah. If Indiana would have been interested, I think you would have, hey, sorry, Paul. No, I mean, we're with Indiana. We wouldn't be so screwed by that. Indiana didn't want the baggage. That's what the word was. They didn't want anybody with any but yeah, guy can coach man. Bottom line, he can coach Bobby

night noted not baggage have her. I think Derek's if you have a chance to coach Kansas like with the way coaches and their egos are like if they have a chance to be put in a position where they can win a national championship, they're going to take it. So I think Kansas will absolutely have their pick of all the possible coaches that don't feel like okay, like I'm not in a spot where I can win championship. I'll go to Kansas. I believe in that people would pass that up. And by then Kansas will be in the SEC. They're already in talks or something something and they're going to join their basketball center conference. FCC loves basketball now, so there's a chance. Paul, as the show winds down, what you got for us, man? Over the floor.

Cam, did you have the picture in here? What else did you steal, Paul? Paul. Well, I wanted to steal the ball. Oh, yes. That's it. Yes. Is that Paul in there with the hat on?

That's it, man. I do want to there with a hat on? That's it, man. I do wanna say though, on a real quick serious note, obviously that's not something I'm proud of. And it's something that I've grown from. Those were during years in which I was addicted to substances and I am no longer that. But looking back on those stories and having a laugh, those people have been paid back for their lost belongings

for the most part. But yeah, when they found us, I don't even know, I probably shouldn't go that deep into it. So, yeah. Too late, too late. We've been talking for 18 minutes. For the most part.

We've got 18 minutes. Well, I mean, they found us in the Walmart parking lot. The girl I was with at the time put t-shirts over the windows because the lights were getting in. As dumb as criminals. That makes sense. No, that makes sense.

Like, we're only in a stolen vehicle. Let's make it more innocuous. Lack of innocuous. It's innocuous. Wow. Yeah. Holy cow. Yeah. Wow, he just pulled that innocuous on us. That's like all time. I hear an air horn obviously driver please step out of the vehicle so I knew it was over

with but then I didn't know what to do with the crack pipe see that's what I'm going to get these jokes. See, that's what I'm saying. You guys aren't going to get these jokes. Steve, for somebody who's in recovery, if you ever go to an NA or an AA meeting, you hear stuff like this all the time because this is how people in recovery feel, right? That gets the town of Huntsville, West Virginia rolling. So obviously this needs to be cut out of the show I'm sure. I just don't think it will be. Don't fire me that's all I ask. That's pretty amazing. Yeah so you know but so but other than that I came up with some really funny villain names for for JT and for parking.

If you guys want to hear those on the more prepared. All right. And see roll the dice, roll the dice, roll the dice. Derek came late. So what are your names? Parker whiz bang is one that I had for him. How about Parker puddles? Is that a good villain name for Parker?

No. What about Parker the perplexer? That's the one I had written down. Oh, I like that one. He's not direct enough for my podcast. Paul, did you put these in a grok? No, I did not. Parker's a prankster apparel.

Then JT Whistler's Wicked Whisper is one of them. Okay, I'm gonna get my crap. Like, I know that. What did Parker do that came out in your call? I don't know. I just feel like you guys are generally the villains. You guys are usually like contrarians. If there is an opinion being had, you guys will be the opposite. Is there a back... New guy Nick and his Iowa State cyclones made it better. I've got a quick football focus question for y'all since last week I know I took the conversation a little bit too much off the rails. I want Drake. Drake, I missed your video last week. What are we going to get a video from you? Never.

I'm not weird. I'm weird. Anytime I ask you guys for a video, don't send them. All right. So Mountaineer Paul has chosen these two to be the heel this week. Please continue. JT Worcester, still the wick, the wicked whisperer or how about JT, the Machiavellian Worcester. No, JT the Macavillian and like a middle name that that. Macavillian? Yeah, it's pretty terrible. Like I was caught completely off guard. I went from the.

I know it's terrible. Hey Mountaineer Paul after watching what played out with North Carolina. I do want to know how deep do you think West Virginia would have gone? It's a good question. I think we would have had a shot of the 16. I do think we would have had a shot of the sweet 16. Matchups are everything, guards win. Would you have had that shot with Darian DeVries still knowing he was going to leave? Like he would have been in March,

just knowing he wants to go. Based off the Colorado result, I would say, I don't think so because his definitely had one put out the door. The team wasn't playing well. We were obviously we were 13 and 10 or last 23 games. So it's not like we were playing terrific. We have one three out of four going into that game. Well, here's what was weird is that I'm in the downtown Marriott in Kansas City. They have just lost to Colorado.

I'm in the lobby. They get back. Texas Tech wasn't playing till the next night. I'm sitting in the lobby. All West Virginia is there. Got all their baggage and suitcases. They're saying goodbye to their family. And they're about to fly back to Morgantown.

And I get up the next morning and I'm down there. And Darren DeVries is down there with family. And his team is, I believe they were long gone and back and he was still in Kansas City, which I thought was strange. Interesting. Yeah, I thought that was strange. Interesting. And when was this after? You said after what? Colorado. Total evidence. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's, you know, I mean, obviously he came out and said some comments and then we, you know,

those of us on the West Virginia side have done some other digging about some other stuff that isn't quite public, but definitely the tendonitis was a thing. You know what I mean? Obviously I didn't release that while the season was happening or anything like that, but you know the on the debris front, it's pretty obvious that there was a deal in place. The Iowa thing was a smoke screen. I'm 100% sure that he was never going to Iowa. That was definitely put out as a smoke screen. I don't know if you want to call it leverage or just to make people put people off of the trail that he was at Indiana for weeks, at least probably closer. I think Iowa hired a better coach in Indiana just did. Oh, some people,

that's not, I don't think it's a hot bed. I think it's a more loyal coach, not a coward. He didn't even say goodbye to the players. That was the thing that bothered me the most. Uh, Chris, and I know you didn't want that. I And I know I don't disagree with that. That's not the right way to do things. I don't disagree with that. Yeah.

And I just so bad at leaving places. It feels like this Brian Kelly was awful. I had so many college basketballs, Brian Kelly. Yeah. And Kyle, what do you have? Kyle, what are you in my family? I'm so happy to be in Baton Rouge. Me and my family, Massachusetts. Yeah happy to be in Baton Rouge. Me and my family.

Worcester, Massachusetts. Yeah, the accent all going. I love this game of Drake popping in for bits and popping back out. Yeah, they just take it. Only one crap. Just a crap on something. Paul was making a statement. Like Paul Cook.

Hey, I'm not going to let us get out of here without acknowledging the fact that if you watched wrestling over the weekend, what Wyatt Hendrickson did. Unbelievable. If you watched wrestling, then who else has watched wrestling? Mic drop. Actually Cody, that was really mean because it was a very cool moment. Cody, now that I've made fun of you, you get to explain this because gonna explain this. I really mean it was a very cool moment.

Now that I made fun of you, you get to explain this because it was actually. I would absolutely love to explain it, Drake. Oh no. I can't believe you did that. I can't believe you did that. They didn't pay for stream

yard is what happened. God bless. Um it was did guys see it? He beat the Olympian. He beat the guy who won the Olympics. No. We need more wrestling rep for sure. Good, okay he's back. Cody, I'm sorry, I apologize. I don't believe him at all. I don't believe him.

No. He's playing with my emotions. Yeah. Cam, you're having too much fun, dude. This has been too much fun. Cody, tell them about the Olympic thing. He beat one of the greatest wrestlers of all time. A lot of people are saying it's the biggest upset in wrestling history.

I agree. That's basically it. He's a two time champion. He's won a gold medal. He's supposed to be the greatest thing since last bread and Wyatt Henderson found a way to get it done. So former NFL player former WWE player Gable Stevenson upset. What do you think of that three point take down?

To make sure he got everything out before Drake took him out again. Yeah. I know he's talking fast. Yeah, yeah. I was going. Stevenson. No honestly like that's one of the top Oklahoma State moments of all time. All because of the three point take down.

What's that three point take down is so new. What do you make of that? I feel like that's just it takes a while to get used to right because the scoring has changed but at the same point in time. That's the beauty of a match like that is you don't have to know anything about wrestling to know that something insane was happening. It was like the last 30 seconds or something wasn't it? Yep last 30, 32 seconds.

That's the beauty of the three point takedown is the situation in that exact scenario and obviously we're not a wrestling podcast but it kind of evades that take down escape take down escape situation where you can just go and all of a sudden now you are the champion as opposed to taking down and then do you go to what happens after that? And so that was a really cool moment. Gable Stevenson hadn't even been taken down in all year. Like not even close. Nobody's even got it.

He dominated. Who's the John Cena of our little podcast here? Paul, definitely JT. Turn heel. Is he heel? He's heel is JT bro. Hey really definitely. Yeah. Paul. Hey, really? I don't know what kind of podcast this is actually. Certainly. He really shared it's up in the windows to try to hide our stolen car. Super. I promise. Super fast. Parker.

I thought what you said earlier was interesting. You think you have the easiest path remaining left? I know. I think that in a truly neutral floor, those three teams are actually it's the issue is not actually playing right now. I thought they looked really good. It's against McNeese. Sure. But like I, I thought they looked really good. Any stuff to go through Tennessee versus Sam Brown's get knocked out. I think Florida has an easier path right now, but you're not going to get a way without eating.

You're going to have to beat good. There's not like a path without good teams. Wait, what did I? You know what, it doesn't even matter if you guys aren't in the crown tournament, so. Yeah, exactly. Get on my own. You beat the minute, you beat the few,

but you found a way to give SEC love on the ship. Chris doesn't like Florida, Chris not a Florida guy here? Chris, are you? Well, I mean, they're in our little deal. I mean, in San Francisco, like I'm not gonna sit there. and he, he's like, uh, been caught looking at the, the girlies on the Instagram and following and unfollowing. There was just a lot going on

there with coach gold, shooter shoe. There we go. Here. This has been, and it always will be no J cap for 50 minutes. Woo. Come back next week. Hopefully so locked on. Thanks making it your first listen every single day. The goats say grande squad.