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Episode Date: March 13, 2025

Big 12 expansion is heating up with talks of Louisville and Pittsburgh joining the conference. Could this reshape the landscape for the West Virginia Mountaineers and their rivals? Dive into the latest buzz around the Big 12, featuring insights from Drake Toll and a panel of experts, including Jake Hatch and Mountaineer Paul. They explore the impact of cannabis policies at West Virginia University, BYU's controversial student ticket lottery, and the strategic importance of conference tournaments. With engaging discussions on Friday night college football games and the evolving dynamics of the Big 12, this episode is packed with insider knowledge and expert analysis.Tune in for a deep dive into the Big 12's future and discover how these developments could affect your favorite teams.

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And guess what? The number one Big 12 Squad show is ours. Jake Hatch says things about the BYU Cougars and he's never smoked weed. Not once. Which will be a topic of conversation today because apparently you can or cannot at West Virginia Mountaineer. Paul will get there over the head coach's comments this week. Cam Stewart is eating food. Cody Stovall locked on Oklahoma State. Nick Miravetz waxes poetic all the time about Iowa State. Christian Rowe, it's like, wow, by the way Owen Wilson says it,

is locked on K-State. JT Westersell locked on Utes and locked on West Virginia's Mountaineer Paul, who is not on the weed. If you hit subscribe, we all get to keep our jobs. Thanks for making our shows your first listen every single day. Dan Wetzel wants Louisville and Pitt to go to the Big 12. Feels like it's a pretty easy move. But first, Mountaineer Paul, what is happening with the grade A cannabis in Morgantown, West Virginia right now? I mean, you know, they asked Rich Rod about it and...

Well, also, what are they doing in his press conferences? Ask him about TikTok and weed. You know what the funniest thing about that? That was actually the funnier thing of the day was that he didn't ban TikTok. He banned TikTok dancing in the locker room, which is like in the same vein of maybe like no celebrations, right? Like it's kind of like that. I think it's a disconnect to be honest. You know, I think that's what it is.

He's been away for a long time. He's been back to different places. Wow, 40 year old Mountaineer Paul is pro TikTok dances here. Hey, is nobody gonna bring up that looks like Elon hooked our boy Paul up? Cause his internet is great. Wow.

That's a great point. Responded right away. Sparley is a good thing, baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It happened for me. You know what? That's how you know the Big 12, whatever this show is. Wow. Doing really good. Didn't you say you studied English in college? Yeah, that was such a lie.

Doesn't mean I need to speak it fluently or you never know. Which college was that? I could be hanging out in the West Virginia parts, but any-but-who but who yeah we're doing good because he has starlink money that's it that's all i got he follows it up by saying doing good it's just perfect it's perfect for the english major any who do we lose did Mountaineer Paul put a spell on like so he stole Cam's internet is that what happened here by the way yeah there was Cam's girlfriend sabotaging him late because he was teaching. I'm doing that. Parker Ainsworth blocked on Cougs talking all things Houston way to be punctual. Yes, they're so Mountaineer Paul 30 seconds synopsis.

What did they decide about smoking on campus and being a football player? I think Rich Rod is he understands that it's illegal now. He just thinks that if you're doing that, this is the way he thinks. And I think that like I said, there's a disconnect here because I do think personally, personal and college football, two different things, right? But as far as personally, I understand it helps a lot of people.

For Rich Rod, what he's saying is, what's that say about you and your wanna win if you're coming to practice high? That's how he sees it. You know what I'm saying? So I see where he's coming from. It's just, that's not gonna land well with today's I want to ask Cam and I guess Drake to as the Baylor

like, what I feel like there's a big bunch of guys at Baylor there for a minute there that were smoking a lot before practice. We're the we're the weed guys. What's up with that? That directist. I'm not gonna lie to you guys, the internet cut out again. I got like one not near Paul word.

And the whole time I was thinking, if we, with the new longer squad shows, do you think we could all smoke a J at the beginning of it and maybe not even get high until like the last segment and I think that we're already off the rails but like our last segments would be incredible if like we all smoke a J or took an edible Jake if you want to ease into this thing very happy about this there's more than one way to absorb a substance by the way. You don't have to do oral, right? Whoa.

Ooh, hey, Paul, what else can you do, buddy? Five minutes in. I've been in jail before, all right? You can come in there all kinds of different ways. I don't know if we can leave any of this in. It was brought up at a press conference to a football coach in the Big 12. That's how I'm going to pitch it to the producers

when they say that we have to scrap the entire Big 12 squad. Dan Wetzel of Yahoo Sports, a little more journalistic, says that it makes sense, says it on a podcast, it makes sense that the Big 12 would add Louisville and Virginia Tech, not Virginia Pitt, Louisville and Pitt. And look, look, here's the cool thing, here's the cool thing. Both those schools make money, both those schools have fairly good athletic departments starting out near Paul and they would come in on equal shares everybody else the big 12 probably is going to expand at some point 18 or 20 everybody else is kind of moving in that direction. Those feel like two schools that I would take first choice out of the ACC because they would be happy to do so North Carolina wouldn't be

happy. I don't know if Georgia Tech would be happy to come to the big 12. They think they deserve a big 10 spot. I think Louisville and Pitt would both be fairly stoked, similar to how Colorado or BYU were to be here. I don't think, I think Georgia Tech would be a lot like Utah. Their fans would be mad. Yeah. Oh yeah. Cause you guys were so thrilled about the big 12. But we do bring, we do bring value to this conference. At least I know I saw that graphic that we're a little bit lower. First of all, that can be Jake, what are you talking about? The rivalry between Utah and BYU is great for the big 12. So I don't know what you're trying to get on. Aren't you $17 million in

the hole already? That was worth that was packed 12 issues. That was the thing in the past. They were anticipating this. Well, those just went away. When you left the conference, you just like, wait, wait, didn't have those issues anymore? Wait, isn't this de facto locked on conference realignment, basically, too, with how much we talk about it? How much is, what is $17 million in today's world of college

athletics with NIL and everything, too? The schools are about to get $20 million in revenue that they can distribute amongst their sports. It's money you don't have. That's what $17 million is, is money you don't have. Why did the Utah Jazz decide they like BYU and not Utah. Oh, yeah, Jake, you know, you know the answer to that. Jake knows the answer. Ryan Smith is a BYU alum and his dad's professor there. So

there you go. Okay. How was you Danny? 17 million hot Danny. Now there's no NIL for ARP for your quarterbacks. Where's he talking? Our quarterback who still by the way, is technically not announced his plans. That Cam has still said like nothing. Here we are in March and Cam hasn't said. Dementia is a real thing with older age.

I know that. Kyle, what do you think? I wanna go somewhat full circle though back to, so Louisville is in Kentucky. Still back to the weed thing. And they've got weed in Kentucky. Pennsylvania does not where Pitt is, but I think adding Pitt would add a good rivalry

with West Virginia. I think that's one that the conference would benefit from in a big way. Actually, right there with the top in the conference as far as rivalries go. It'd be fun. The holy war the backyard brawl and that same. So you're you're a child. You're a child. I'm not I'm not.

And you have a sibling right and? And your parents, your parents are out one night to dinner and both of them get shot and killed. Oh, my gosh. What you've you fall into a bad story. You call it Batman. And would you want the two children to go to the orphanage together or be in separate orphanages? Oh, trick question. You would want them to stay together, right? Bringing BYU and Utah to the Big 12 together is like you can both

compete with one another, pull each other up and know they know that they have this mystique to it because the rivalry, I think West Virginia came to the Big 12 conference without another orphan without a daddy issues. That's where this is going. And so it got on substances. Right. And so I think West Virginia having Pitt would be like bringing in another orphan

because we know the last decade for West Virginia, they have struggled to keep up in the Big 12. Let's bring in their orphaned brother, Pitt, who didn't fall in the Batcave. And now maybe West Virginia has somebody to compete with and it helps them overall in the Big 12. Hey, Mountain New Period. And 12 years later. They go to summer camp and they try to get their parents back together Nice reference

Coming in but I don't think pits worth the Sharman extra soft they wipe with personal You don't really Cody are that down on pit? Yeah, I Mean I have a lot to say get him. Get your own stadium am I right Cody? Well not only that, they have a horrible family. Pit and Louis wasted the first six minutes of this about weed. Coming up Pit and Louisville. How is that wasting anything? This is the big 12 squad. Oregon guy. Today's show is brought to you by Nissan. Nissan is the place. And when I'm telling you the place, I mean, the place to go right now for the Armada. The 2025 Armada is spectacular. Justire's team led the nation with an insane amount plus 434 points in ACC games in their margin of victory. By it's the most by a power conference team in league play since Kentucky in 1953-54. When it comes to Nissan Armada, they say go forth and conquer. That's exactly what the Duke Blue Devils have done here. It's clear that our team of the week is out here ready to conquer the road ahead with confidence, just like you can in the only Nissan Armada or any of Nissan's outstanding vehicles. Take the Nissan Armada Rogue or Pathfinder and go find your next big adventure. Shop NissanUSA.com. That is ShopNissanUSA.com.

Well, we did. We've just brought on, as mentioned before the ad break, the Oregon guy, Spencer McLaughlin, who missed the entire cannabis conversation. the the the the the the the Oh, the parent trap. I was like, what I'm sorry. What do you just forget the premise of the movie that you brought up? Great film by the way, you missed a Batman reference in there Spencer because you were late. It's yeah, they're talking about orphans I talk about divorce. I'm a little tamed here

Edibles so hey, we're And actually reflecting on what I said earlier, I now see how bad that sounded. I've been in the whole way. And yeah, that was bad, man. I tell you what, the good news, Paul, is we can actually see you as you're saying this stuff. That's nice. Hey, you're late to this answer. Paul had a trivia question for us.

Oh, I love it. I'm actually a trivia junkie. Not everything has to be ingested orally. So what is the other option? There are multiple, by love dude. I'm actually a trivia junkie. Not everything has to be ingested morally. So what is the other option? There are multiple by the way There are different ways I'm gonna pass on that one. Oh just joining including Spencer. The idea is two children Their parents are murdered brutally and now they're orphaned together a little bit longer. It just bled out like that's very important.

Don't forget that detail from Batman begins back up or let them stay together. You would let them stay together. BYU and Utah got to go into their cool new. They got adopted in the Big 12 together. They didn't come together though really quick like that. That doesn't work there. I'm just not at the same time. You're right.

It didn't finish at the same time. It took a little bit for the other there. Wouldn't there? One of them had to push so they can't do it at the same time. So good. Here is that West Virginia needed an orphan brother to come to the big 12 with to help them compete against and feel comfortable and bringing pit would do that we are pro Dan Wetzel Yahoo Sports had the idea Louisville and Pitt come to the Big 12.

I think that could work. What about Virginia Tech? They feel that same boy. I think, I think. I love that you said this. Hmm. Louisville and Pitt, you said? Dan Wetzel of Yahoo Sports said.

God, listen, please. Yeah. I'm actually kind of, I'm kind of like, that's actually intriguing. That's like, that's legitimately intriguing because to me, Louisville, with their basketball focus and pits tied to West Virginia in different respects, feel like big 12 schools. They have a bit like, it doesn't feel even as unnatural in some ways as Utah

and BYU being in the big 12, which is great for the league, of course, but like, they don't feel like big 12 schools. Utah doesn't even want to be in this conference, or at least that's just what their athletic director said one time. Are you just going to recycle every joke from the first segment because you showed up late? I could.

I could. I could. And I might. I might. In my defense, Drake didn't invite me until later. So we're going to blame him. So I don't think that's a ridiculous just throw it at the wall and see what sticks sort of notion. The question is, you know, could it actually work?

Ever since Spencer told that story about his broken wrist, it's just been hard to invite him. It's been like, uh, like you send that last invite during the party. Like, Hey, we're having a party. When did I tell a story about my broken? I never broke my wrist. It was really the baseball story. No, I know I got hit in the mouth. I wasn't going to tell it. I'm just trying to set the record straight Hit the mouth of the base how made it work

So why your lips are so body your lips are like that like there's a filler in them You got it could be On that one moving up with McLaughlin's I have a heckler with toys on that one movie. Keeping up with the McLaughlin's. I have a heckler commenter over on my Locked On Ducks channel who reminds me at least once a week that I have larger than average lips. Wow.

That's like ST. Maybe he's an admirer. It's gone on long enough to the point where I think he might be in love with me. But I want the admiration from all of my fans. Well, do you guys know? If you have a viewer that is staring at your lips the whole time, you might have a stage five situation.

Like apparently so. I'm just reporting facts. Spencer didn't know he was getting into this and getting love out of it. He was just gonna come talk ball. Does anyone know? No, Parker, anytime I come into the squad, I know what I'm getting into.

And that's zero talking of ball. We talked a lot of balls. You guys talk about balls. You know, no balls. I don't know why. Yeah, balls plural. It's a little bit big. Does anyone here know their splits

between a male and female listeners? I think mine's like 9% female. Ooh, I know mine. You actually have that? Yeah, mine's like above 5%, which is crazy. Yeah, you can watch that on YouTube. Mine are 95.5. 10.2% female.

Ladies, hello. What's the age group on that, Drake, that you'd allow them to have? 65 plus. Perfect. Perfect, brother, don't change a thing. Drake, that number's up because you've been having Cam on a lot lately.

That's what we know. They know what they want. Drake, see, can become the second Cougar in this room. Third. Yeah. Oh, third Spencer. Cause they're Oh, that's true. That's true. Forgot about that.

Okay. Like if I'm being honest, I actually forgot that BYU is mascot as a Cougar and I was just looking at Parker and be like BYU's just BYU. I know Jake, that's the bad part. I've eaten a cougar tail. It's wonderful. I want to see Cam with a cougar tail. That sounds like it could be a good section of the show. Why? And I'm not talking about his lip size.

Okay, calm down. I'm not that guy. So my old lady is three weeks older than me. So right on much more. By you are female audience 9%. So there you go. Hey, look at us guys. It's 5.6 I got got 37.9, 65 or older. Speaking of Cougars. Shout out. Wow.

My 25 to 34 year old range is 11.2% of the show and only 0.6% of that is female. They're out there. They exist. Yeah, both of them. They are out there. From loud minority on the lockdown big 12 analytics of women uh so spencer it sounds like you're cool if we add louisville and pit oh i think it'd be fun you know great great content

drake because i could force you to do so many segments with me and that'd make your life miserable so at the very least i would get that i've been a lot of ball on your show recently people are starting to notice i'm starting to get phone calls. Well, yeah, that's because on my show, we talk ball. When you guys record together, the female viewership is definitely down by the way. I don't know. Oh, they're down all right.

They're down for sure. Go down in the DM. Yes. Yes, they do. Yes, they do, Mountaineer Paul. I said a thing. I'm not sure. I mean, the first part seems self-explanatory. They're funny. Give me a minute.

I'll find them. No, but I didn't throw it to Cam earlier because it was Josh Gordon, but it was a whole bunch of guys. It wasn't just Josh Gordon, right? There was like a whole crew. I thought I'm not, I'm not making this up. Breaking news. Football players smoke weed.

No, but like, no, but that was like a whole thing and they were good at the time. I'm trying to say, the the the the the the the the the I'm trying to say you're good and you had guys smoking before practice. I was trying to say sick as hell. I know.

I'll tell you this. If Rich Rod hasn't smoked a thousand joints and gone driving down back roads, then is he really going to be a good coach? Good question. I guarantee you Neil Brown didn't. That dude was a dad personifier. You think that was part of the criteria and the coaching search for West Virginia, Mount the the the

the anything related to Bob Huggins please don't believe this oh yeah I forgot about that should I say the quiet part out loud? please keep that no the quiet part would get bleeped off the end give Mo Lewis baby well like a good neighbor stay pointed there Mo Lewis knocked out Tom Brady or knocked out Drew Bledsoe and Tom Brady got to go in and they tried to give Mo Lewis a Super Bowl ring that's what Drake should ask for from Bob Huggins the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the-

the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- the- You say that like I haven't enjoyed the past 15 minutes. This is the locked on Big 12 squad. Big 12 is moving like all of its football games to Friday night this season because

we are scared of competing with the SEC and the Big 10 reviewership times. So the Big 12 is going to have games like Auburn and Baylor in the non-conference and even Tulsa Oklahoma State, Georgia Tech at Colorado. Some of these could end up being good. TCU at Arizona State, West Virginia at BYU, Utah at Kansas. Now those are all on Fridays. Why? Because we're scared little girls and we don't want to compete with the SEC in the Big Ten.

It's like- I wonder why our female viewership is so low. Yeah, it's scared little boys. Women's history month, dude. Come on. It's gonna change when they start talking about Kansas State, Arizona on Friday night. the the the the the

the the the the time this will have been a week. Can I say this Rich Rod quote really quick? You know what Paul you can literally do whatever you want on this show. Ever have to ask permission. Just it's so he said they're gonna be on it so I'm not blaming it. Is this the weed thing again? I'm just banning them from dancing on it not banning them from take on it, not banning them from TikTok. On weed?

We try to have a hard edge in whatever, and if you're in your tights dancing on TikTok, that's not quite the image our program wants. I ban dancing on TikToks. I guess I did that, and I'm allowed to do that. I can have rules now 20 years from now, if they wanna be sitting in their pajamas in their basement, eating Cheetos, and whatever TikTokok whatever the hell they can smoking cannabis whatever i mean knock yourself out

using as the chance to do the funniest thing ever knock yourself out if you want to be high and do a tiktok dance would they be i like how none of us knew what on it meant like the first half the quote. Which one is he going with? Yeah, don't do it. On we are we are we announcing the war on TikTok by the way is that what we're going to be can

they be can they be on TikTok while high just can't be dancing to smoke weed on TikTok. They do. the the the the the the

the the the the Incredible do it for the truth social and dance Delta Just watching one nice you mace video after another Cam what was with that shot at Nick? How did he deserve that? clearly the youngest Work ahead Yeah, I sure hope it does Wow. Can you give us another one real quick?

Give us another one. I smell like beef. Another one. I think it's I smell like beef. I think she's like she's beef. Yeah, the last one is beef. Nick, give me another, give me another vine please. We have an hour of this. It's... What are we talking about right now? I've never been to Java. Cam Stewart is trying to cross-examine Nick about his knowledge of Vine. That's what's happening right now, apparently. Name three of their songs.

If Truth Social was banned by Rich Rodriguez, what would the state of West Virginia do? What kind of- What does getting free shavakka do? What kind of- What does the state of Shavakka do? What kind of question? More like- They would burn couches all day, every day. They did burn couches though.

I watched Baylor burn couches when they won the Big 12 championship in football. Drove back to Waco. We, they shut off the street. It was kind of really cool actually. I wish somebody would have called me. I would have loved to caught an arson charge in that that weekend the police were like taking pictures with kids the police It was a different time art miles. It was a different time

Hey, I saw them do it after we won a national championship in basketball, do you guys know what that's like Hey, I saw them do it after we won a national championship in basketball. Do you guys know what that's like? You weren't in college then. What were you doing hanging out with the college kids? I was working local news. I had to get viewer video. Uh, yeah. Uh-huh.

Is the camera that way? I made an analytics talk about YouTube when he was doing. Cam Stewart, Peter Parker. Taking home. That's now. He was doing. Cam Stewart, Peter Parker. Taking home, that's, yeah. That's, yeah. Local news pays well too. You're making a whole lot of money to be there. Hey, get on camera, kid.

Hey, he's frozen. Yeah, so this Friday thing, this Friday thing really. I thought he was actually just giving us a best there. Wait, Cam, were you frozen or were you just staring at us cold faced? Well done. Thank you, thank you. Good job.

Well done. That was a perfect timing. Cam Stewart is the new Mountaineer Paul. What, what, what? Who's Cam? Who's Cam? Who's Cam? Who's Cam?

Let's get Derek in here. He lives in Chicago. They have perfectly good internet in Chicago. And Kim, you had an incredible beer at the Blackhawks. I just got over 60 degrees today though. It all goes to hell. It was pretty incredible. Hold on.

I do have the stick gentlemen. Oh, he's gonna pull a stick out. Ever drink a Mick Ultra out of this puppy? Jake hasn't. Ever drink a Mick Ultra out of this because they ran out of Miller Life? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey, hey. They ran out of this puppy. Jake hasn't ever drink a mickle try out of this because they ran out of Miller life. Hey, hey, they ran out of Miller life. Let's not put a brand on that beverage. Let's open up to any they didn't have it man. Derek, it would take you five. Can you can you only do this orally? Oh my

clip it. Derek, we could give you 1000 guesses. I don't think you'd ever get the like any of the- the- the- the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the

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the the the the Friday that's you know that that's that's kind of powering a bunch of other games you can have big 12 content on Friday and big 12 content on Saturday. I do right your mark would play on Tuesday if he could though like did we see the the court yeah and the Mac is an elite conference what's the point Thursday's are better than Friday's I would agree with you. Friday is the opening of the gate for everything. I don't want to face the NFL on Thursday. What you people don't understand is our Mecca is Texas. And every Friday in Texas, people watching high

school football, they don't care about college football. Anything happens on a Friday. It doesn't exist in Ada, Oklahoma. Okay, let's freeze time because Drake just made a good point. Logan, it actually opens the ball. I don't know. I feel as I conference like leaving Texas all of a sudden, right? Because Texas wouldn't net the state of Texas would never put a college football game on a Friday. It feels like being the read a little bit here.

I think that they've definitely had college football games on Fridays in Texas before. Oh, what North Texas and Lamar? Yeah, I get you're not program and one of those is not. Can we keep it in the same competition? The million dollar high school team's still in town. Yeah.

I forgot. Lockdown College football. BYU played at SMU last Friday, this past season, on a Friday night. Then they conveniently forgot about the fact that BYU beat SMU in the college football playoff rankings. Therefore, playing on Friday. Because no one watched it.

It was on a Friday. That's the problem. Exactly. They were watching China Spring versus Springtown. They were not watching BYU. Something that doesn't seem to be getting talked about, I think, more than anything, is there's so many Friday night games for the Big 12, but is there a bunch for the SEC

in the Big 10? I don't know. I'm legitimately just asking. They would not do that. Right, so doesn't it almost feel somewhat systematic that ESPN has to drop out this year, Paul? There are some in the Big Ten. There are some in the Big Ten.

Oregon played on a Friday at least twice last year. And all the Big Ten does is whine about it. That's what we've heard. I mean, I'm kind of whining about it right now. Not kind of. Not kind of, Drake. Auburn's poor, so Auburn has to play Baylor on a Friday, and they just made that decision last week.

They're like, hey, you know what, guys? No one cares about this. Play it on a Friday. I get that folks not from and haven't ever lived in Texas don't get it, but within an hour, I can get to 12 different multimillion dollar high school stadiums that will be full of 50,000 people on Friday nights.

Within an hour of where I'm living right now. Parker, I lived in Texas. There is still power in having a game on that night though for some of the people that are still gonna, even after their game gets over, right? Where are they gonna go? They're gonna watch more football after. Oh, I thought you were gonna put it at 10 o'clock?

Yeah, I'm gonna kick off at 10? No, no, no. BYU should just do it every time. BYU, every Friday. BYU at 10 o'clock, every Friday, perfect. Honestly, BYU is the one school that I can, like you guys wear the Friday thing really well. BYU loves a good Friday game.

Well, the rest of us, they got used to it during the- Not in the NCAA tournament. They got, oh, I forgot about Hangover. Because that would mean you'd have to play on a Sunday, so I can't have them. No Friday Sunday in the NCAA. That's a rule. But the point is well made, Drake,

is because BYU during their independent era, they played two or three Fridays every single season. So I think Cougar fans have become adapted to playing on Friday nights. And I think by and large, BYU fans would be okay with it. Anybody want to follow up that eloquence? I just went through all of ESPN's schedule real quick while we're talking and the only Friday games

for Power Fours are Big 12s and ACC. There are no Big 10s this Tell me that's not systematic. But ESPN's got to prop up their darlings. Yes, shut up Spencer. I think it's a good, I think it's a good idea. Everyone to have a game. Everyone's a lot of fun. You would think it's a good idea.

You would be the one. Brett, you're the whole thing we love about Brett, you're more because he's creative. He tries to find different ways to maximize viewership. There was not a college game on Friday. That's a good idea. Jake, you were just okay with Fridays. Why are you shaking your head? You saw the conference die. Okay, Parker, of all the reasons, can I, can I speak on that first? He was always on a Friday. Parker, of all the reasons to cite for the Pac-12's demise,

playing a few games on Friday is like 18th on the list. And they played at odd times to try and find these TV, that's one of the things they were doing, it's not the only thing they did wrong. First on the list, religious persecution. It started there, huh? First thing. It's a long look in the mirror for Pac-12. Wouldn't be at the top of my list, the top, religious persecution. Start there, huh? First thing. It's a long look in the mirror.

Wouldn't be at the top of my list. The top of my list. Up here, creme de la creme would be Larry Scott. That's the first, that's where you start. Rusty development, right? But, but, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. More or less, yeah. And then you can throw whatever you want after,

put it in whatever, put Friday night game second there Larry Larry Scott is first who's apparently rumored to be the next LPGA Commissioner potentially, which is insane Yeah, no, it's incredibly real. I do need it out tomorrow on lockdown college football Why Larry Scott is plotting his return to run a conference straight to the ground Correct Larry David did Always Sunny. Curb your enthusiasm, right? He got the joke. He got the joke, everybody. Yep, he was included in the joke. He gets it.

When Nick comes through, he comes through, huh? Hey, this kid. So, Nick, what can I say say there was more stuff on my list of things we could talk about this day we barely touched on the actual things that were on the rundown we spent our whole time talking yeah that's because we enjoy ourselves here where did you get this rundown yeah what rundown are we talking about i sent it in the in the big 12 squad chat i know park didn't send it to me i I know Parker's not talking the same guy every week who asked for the squad show link,

even though it's been the same link from the very first time we were scoring all season. Imagine if we put- You can't explain the bit, JT. That's not how it works. Group chat. Where's your five mile radar, sir? Right here.

Right here. Drake, what are you- New guy Nick and his Iowa State Cyclones made it to a bowl game. Are you talking to yourself, Kim? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. the student lottery ticket thing and I so I my feet on Twitter this I got the lottery is illegal there was. Arkansas fans are pissed off about their season tickets going up by 20 grand apiece and BYU students are like oh I will miss my final BYU basketball game as a senior please be sad for me. Jake what's happening.

BYU student section must it That's the biggest storyline there. The student section muffed it? Like they're- That wasn't allowed either. Muffed it? They're going to allow muffing now, BYU? It's not allowed. Nicely done, Derek. Nicely done.

No muffing in Provo. You mother muffers. Drake. Drake. Drake. What are you doing? You're still muting. You're supposed to be the best of us. No, my girlfriend's making dinner and I want a plate. I'm hungry.

I'm sitting here listening to all of what. Wow. Look at me. I'm Drake Toll. I host locked on Big 12 and I'm in a relationship. Yeah. Screw you I'm not listening to all of Wow, look at me. I'm Drake Toll. I host locked on Big 12 and I'm in a relationship. Yeah, screw you, man. And she's hot. I got three here.

9% emails. She was down like 4%. Christian BB to it. I was going to ask if she was one of the 9%. Yeah. She is not. Well, we did go to like 8%. You just said that she's a dog ugly. I don't know. You'd still be dating her much longer, so that's probably a good call. English degree, folks. English degree.

It's stunning. It was descriptive. I think it worked. Was it from the school, from the school where you don't read and write good? What's the line? Something to that effect. Derrick School and her school for kids who don't read good. It reminds me of Rocky Balboa.

I don't think it's good. Instead of letting the kids camp out and be first come first serve, which is always a dope thing. Oh, also can't do that in Provo, which is always a cool thing in college football and basketball. BYU was like, you know what? Let's see what chance you just put your name in a hat. We're going to draw them out.

And if you've been to every single game, we don't give a crap about you. They change. What shenanigans would happen in a tent? I mean, oh, trust me, there's been plenty of shenanigans happening in Provo. They're Parker. I give a crap about you. They change what shenanigans happen in a tent I mean. Oh trust me there's plenty shenanigans happening in Provo there Parker I can

assure you of that. They are soaking in shenanigans up there in Provo. Yes you're kidding. We're gonna wait to get it in. They ride bikes without helmets again. That's right. Kids they're they're drinking fully leaded cokes all the sudden cam all

hell's break a moose here in Provo so he said hell holy the big well well you get one per semester one per semester uh once we got leveled out of the issues I did a double entendre and stuff

that's pretty cool. Is that French? You just ostracized like half your listenership right there. Oh no! I thought he said it in English but Mountaineer Paul said it in French. I'm gonna go back to my rock impression. Profile and reasons. I don't think we could. Profile and reasons.

But we have an mysterious conversation now. Let's steal. Let's get back to the point Drake. Here's the thing, if they're gonna keep students from camping out, We have a serious conversation Here's the thing if they're gonna keep students from camping out you're ruining the college experience But I was a student at BYU we camped out for days waiting for games In fact, they took us back two or three years ago It's beyond dumb and yeah some kids who were die-hard to have been to every game in their career Missed out on a rivalry game when they would have liked to have been there So there's no other way.

What do you mean they took away camping? Well, you cannot camp out in Provo right now for a BYU football or basketball game. Why? It would be pointless. It would be pointless too because there's a lottery system. They have a lottery system. And they spit out, you have this seat in the student section. It's the stupidest thing I've ever seen. And you're trying to tell us that they don't smoke weed in Provo, Utah?

Sounds like somebody's higher than the grass f*****. What are we talking about? I'm assuming like, is it getting a lot of negative pub probably because it's gonna last very long. Yeah, so it's not gonna last long, man. Well, no, that's the thing about this, Paul, you mentioned people, did they have another way to get to the game?

Tickets for that game against Utah were going for 300 bucks for Nosebleed seats it was that it was a hot hot ticket in Provo and that's the concern of these students are missing out Oh, so you're not rich Mormons? Okay. We're not Ryan Smith over here But like Baylor does this and it makes sense for Baylor because most of the games the students like I don't even want to go Anyway, so able to do this. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do this. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do this.

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I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do this. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do this. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do this. I'm not sure if push your time back. So please repeat. That's because Drake is allowing this to be the lock longest locked on big 12. Oh, someone has a memo. Someone has an extra hour baby. That's right. We're doing it.

I actually did not get that memo. Yeah, I want more more. Yeah, but actually, I came in for is a JT. Can you can you describe the like five students? Wait, wait one second. What student is that? Look at the at though. That's the drugs. That's Rich Rod's burner.

That's Rich Rod's burner. I hate drugs. I hate TikTok. That's what it is. Kids smoking weed on the TikTok. On these dances, these TikTok. Okay. It's the dancing on the TikTok.

So at Baylor, you register for the lottery. If you're a student, you get picked for the lottery. You get a ticket to the football game or the basketball game. But like usually it's only 80%. And if you don't go, you're revoked. So it keeps the kids that want to go, go into the games. Whereas at BYU, literally every child there has nothing else to do aside from going to the athletic events, which is awesome.

And now the diehards getting bumped for Brindley and Briley, who want to go to their first ever BYU basketball game to cap off their junior year. You are not supposed to dox Jake's kids names. Hey, hey, hey, yes, that's a good point. Don't dox my kids. Thank you very much. Jake's like, it's pretty close. There's enough of them just throw a name out there and you're probably gonna be close. Student section there must for the basketball games like five years. I was gonna say I'm be honest you guys wait there's actually other big 12 teams are able

to fill their stadiums I thought that we were I thought that was everyone's problem not just. Ask the curtains about about the Huntsman Center. The curtains have been down this year. the I do for segment two. Yeah, getting back to what we were talking about though with the BYU thing. I mean, it's tough, right? Like I get the high supply. Like you mentioned the fact that you're charging 300 for people to get in. Like that's a testament to what BYU is built. I can absolutely respect that. I think it's, I think it's tough.

But I mean, also those, it's hard when you have that popular of a student demand. I feel bad that some of those kids had to miss out on their last senior game, but I'm sure they got to go to a lot. Cam, what, what Cam? What? The one time, wait, the one time I can actually see Cam's face.

I just don't like how you, I don't. Hold on, Jake Hatch is disgusted that JT just said something nice about BYU. What is this? Like down to his core. I watched it manifest in his brain and then slowly translate to his face. I tried to be a Tucker Carlson during an interview,

just all of a sudden just. I reference him. What? I don't like the way that JT handles this rivalry I don't because earlier I don't like the way you and Drake handled something earlier we'll get to that later if we could rewind the tape Jake Hatch went on well so I've got a quick football focused question for y'all since last week I know I took the conversation a little bit too much off the rails I want to know is Patrick Mahomes is NFL success only something that Texas Tech. Why is he so happy to ask that? What's happening in your life that constitutes smiling that big?

He was excited to be in the big ball and celebrate Patrick Mahomes like all Utah fans are. But can we talk about how earlier in the show Jay Catch talked about how good Friday night games are and then the second JT said it he was like no that's stupid I respect what you was built Butts and seats like Cam just cuz we have a good rival in this conference the best rival doesn't mean I need to always don't denigrate Disrespect my rival on here every week the Baylor guys talking right? Cam perhaps before you start insulting rival easy should instruct your athletic department. Oh, I can't finish that insult

once that pops up. Who's that startlingly good looking character that we just put on? Put it back up there. Yeah. Since apparently I'm being too nice. No, I can't even see the resemblance guys. Since apparently I've been too nice this episode, there was two individuals I'd like to go out for their comments earlier today and it's Drake Toll and Cam Stewart guys on the big 12 big 12 locked on big 12 earlier today. I get a right Hey, at least I know when to unmute mute my mic like unlike you earlier I muted on purpose to ask for dinner, but you didn't leave the shot. You look like you were talking in your mic

Okay, and who's great. Are you telling me you were the living manifestation of John Clayton? Hey mom, I'm done with my segment. I completely disagree with this notion that Cam and Drake brought up earlier about the big 12 tournament not mattering for the top teams. I think it's completely what, what camp, what does it matter? What does it matter? Matters for building. This is some of the quotes that you guys used earlier. Big 12 tournament. I think this was Drake. There is no reason to win this tournament. It's Bugazi, it's a made up point, doesn't matter. Cam, it's a waste of time, all our time.

Don't even try. If at the top of the conference, just go home. Higher seed, easier path. I want you to understand how meaningless this is. I completely script. Jake, you guys lost to Duquesne last year, and you lost before to Tech, right before the momentum. So you gotta get your rail

to win the tournament. Hold on. There's a very solid argument that called JT Bobby Flake is that dude cooking JT the best reading quotes from my show. Yes. He came prepared Drake. He came prepared to the big 12 squad. That is more than any of us can say in the history of this show. You listening to my show pays me money. I don't like keep going. Like you I know I subscribe so you can keep your

job. I know you're in danger with your 29,000 plus subscribers, but I still subscribe to you buddy. history. Rick Majeris hated absolutely hated conference tournaments. One guy hates it so that means one guy. You talk coach one guy. I'm talking about one opinion. I'm talking about one opinion.

First of all, can I use the examples I wanted to bring up for Drake and cams whole point earlier was you lose. It doesn't matter. You don't want to risk injuries. Injury risk is fair, but you know what else is fair and absolutely true? Momentum. Look at Kansas last year, lost in the big 12 tournament to Cincinnati, then squeezed by Sanford in Salt Lake City. Then to get trounced by exactly what's going

on in that one. Drake, can you use the example that we used here? I don't even know what JT is going on about. 2021, I have no idea what we're talking about. I don't think they're the correlation either way. So you have the Baylor one. Kansas national champions. But Kansas won the big 12 in 2022, but then you could also go back. They did in the big 12 tournament.

Yes, they did. 2019. We're gonna knock the lock on Jayhawks guy. I'm just telling you, they did. 2019 though, we can go to Nick and Iowa State beat Kansas in the big 12 championship game and they lost in the first round Ohio State. I agree that it goes either way. That's what I'm saying.

Well, just just last year, Houston got the championship game in the tournament and they only had seven healthy players. They end up going through like this crazy trip, like they're out of gas in the tournament championship game. And then Jamal said, there's like minutes and the wear and tear that all matters. And like you're not building a team to win five games in five days. You're willing to win two games in three days, three different times. That's what you're building. Pia Lipsy goes down. Dallin Hall goes down. Like that guy's done for the year. You're the year you're done. No. Top

seed. Yeah. You can get. Any times. Any conference. What are you saying? Any conference. OK. Every national champion has at least moved past the quarterfinal round of their conference tournament, every single one. OK. But JT, why do you care? You're the 11th seed. OK.

Because he has to win. Jake, that's why he cares. They have to win. We absolutely have to win. Well, that's not even, I know, because this is where you guys mentioned earlier, right? Like it still matters. It's going to be 11 seasons where Alex can take over

and actually revolutionize Utah's basketball scene. Come on now. Well, you were talking about the same thing last year and it actually worked out. So it does give me a little bit of hope what BYU was able to do. But like, if you look at the past in history, teams like Iowa State, right, won the big 12 last year.

So what did that allow them to do? Get an easier path in the conference tournament. Then they're able to get to the sweet 16 in part of that too. North Carolina, a one seed that beat Pitt. So they were able to stay as a one seed last year, even though they lost to NC. So what happened? Easier path in the tournament got to the sweet 16 then to winning those games helps you can helps you to get an easier path. I will never agree with just losing right away. It creates negative momentum.

I already mentioned how BYU lost in the tournament last year and then right away got bounced by Duke Kane and Keith Danra. What do you think of Iowa State though in this tournament? Obviously with Keyshawn and the muscle strain and then the team with all eight dudes playing, 19 and 2. We haven't- The whole town of Ames is probably already out here. I mean they are. It's like some great voyage.

They are all down there. They're sticking around. I'm just saying for them, I think for the Iowa State men, it almost, I'm not going to say I want them to lose, but it makes sense for them to exit early and not go through extra minutes because they had to when Milan was out and then Curtis and Keishon they've played through injuries Everyone's on high minutes and Keishon's playing through a muscle strain right now. I agree momentum is important But if there were an argument, I do think Iowa State would benefit from some rest

Well, that's the guy who played the games at home like this Hilton South like this is like their backyard He's like, I don't know if you play this guy's like I understand like some teams need because they need the resume boost but the teams that top the country and the top big 12 is always the top of the country. It's win one game feel good about yourself and call it good like just be done. LJ Cryer is done for the season if Dallin Hall is done for the season if Taiman Lipsy's down for the season then what was the point of this? I don't like Dallin Hall.

Are we bringing I cover Dallin Hall in the state championship game all those years ago, he's a damn good player. At Fremont high school, I put some respect on Dallen Hall's name, but he is not swaying the title odds like something crazy. If you lose a backup guard in the tournament, like you could still be fine. Or if you could, or if you still get in a better position where you can put yourself against weaker opponents in the tournament by winning this conference, that also helps you out a lot too. I was thinking a lot of benefit from winning the tournament though last year didn't get a huge bump in seating.

No, it depends on who you are. I always state anybody. What'd you say? Well, anybody on that eight seat or below that could get a win in the big 12 tournament would help massively. Right. West Virginia is obviously a great team. Baylor, Baylor, West Virginia. Yeah. Yeah. But it also, the thing that conference also had a bigger picture though is like, if Memphis doesn't win the American athletic conference tournament, it's actually going to hurt someone that's an eight, nine seat, right? Because they're going to be in the tournament anyway. And the conference tournament champion is going to be in that takes away a seat. So across the board, they altered

the whole thing dramatically for like this one off that takes away a seed. So across the board, they altered the whole thing dramatically for like this one-off kind of random money grab. Like it's just not this. I mean- I would love, great point Parker. JT, I would love if Utah won the Big 12 tournament or Kansas State. Yeah, yeah.

Or almost- Utah apparently wouldn't by the way, since they already picked their new head coach. But anyways, what were we saying? That only helps the Big 12 conference if they- Yes, agreed. Is the new head coach and NBA assistant? Yes, he is Alex Johnson, Dallas map assistant. Follow path there that somebody else did. I'll be cat BYU.

What do you like Ryan Smith in your back? Question everybody who played against West Virginia? Do you guys think there's is there a team that could afford to lose somebody less than West Virginia and Do you guys think there's, is there a team that could afford to lose somebody less than West Virginia and your bond small? Yeah, I still think tame and lips. He's up there but you won't even happen to cam right? Yeah, if lips he goes down you've got two or three guys probably for Iowa stake at the but yeah, Javon small is Saunders for be all is important. Wait cam. What do you think? Hmm. Thank you cam and lightning

Wait, Cam, what do you think? Hmm. Thank you, Cam. Enlightening. Yvonne Smalls is about the only guy from last year's team that I couldn't stay and leave. Also we need to start talking about basketball more often because Spencer just leaves. It's the best. It shuts him up immediately. He just immediately...

So I had a question back from out near Paul that we're going to talk hoops. Is that because everyone else is already hurt? Right? Like if everyone else were healthy, would you be missing him quite the same? Well, I mean, look what he did this year against the list. Literally every scheme was directed at him. I'm saying no secondary score. Well, but wouldn't Tucker or somebody have been that like, isn't it just because guys are hurt? We're missing 35 points per game. That's what I'm saying. That was like, and Tucker DeVries are 35 points a game and Javon small carried these guys.

Three top 10 wins. You know what I mean? One of the best. That's what I'm asking though is like, are you only saying Javon small because he's the only one left? Like if they were a hundred percent, would it be missing him the same way? Uh, it's hard to say. I think we would have been on that in that we would have had a shot to finish inside the top four with everybody, you know.

So I don't know. It's hard. It's hard to play that game. But I see where you're coming from. I mean, what we did with Tucker and I'll say this. Here's another thing for Jevon Small. Our most efficient lineup across the entire 31 games was with Tucker DeVries and he played eight games. You know, so Javon Small, what he was able to do this year, literally, you could put it up there with a Jerry West type. See, it's up there. It's up there. Top two or three in the history of this sport. Jerry West? What a wild bull. If you look at it, if you look at the efficiency, everything that Javon Smalls has been able to do across this season by the numbers, one of the best individual seasons for a guard that we've

ever had that includes Javon Carter, who won back to back defensive player of the year awards. Love Javon Carter. Here's the thing, Derek, do you want to come out to Salt Lake City this weekend? We can watch Darren Peterson and AJ Devonce go head to head and you know, show what the next next. I might not have to the championship round or the semis I think is in Lawrence. It is but hey, you come out here this week.

I'll just switch places with you next week. Have some fun. Oh, that's what guys having some fun. Wilt, Big O and Jerry West. I used to go to dinner and then take the girls to see tiny play. Like it's Earl the pearl. Well, Jerry West. Very best.

That's Curtis basketball has always been my thing. I like magic bird and Bernard King. Yeah, that's a good one. They're playing basketball. Basketball is my favorite sport. I like the way they dribble up and down the court. A wild line to open the song with, by the way, because this is the first time I've ever seen a basketball. Basketball is my favorite sport. I like the

way they dribble up and down the court. A wild line to open the song with by the way. A bar? What are you talking about? A wild line. I went to her. What is it? Oh snap. Guess what I saw. A fella tongue kissing my girl in the mouth. I got so sad my heart went down south. That's some Bismarck key for you You know That song will get to West Virginia one of these days one of these days that cassettes gonna find its way Love it the the