Locked On Jayhawks - Daily Podcast On Kansas Jayhawks Football & Basketball - BIG 12 SQUAD - How Notre Dame joining the Big 12 would impact Kansas

Episode Date: January 23, 2025

Could Notre Dame shake up the Big 12 landscape? As rumors swirl about the Fighting Irish potentially joining the Big 12, this episode dives into the implications for college football. With Notre Dame'...s unique position and financial independence, what could this mean for the conference dynamics?Explore the pros and cons of independence in college football, with insights from Jake on BYU's experience. The hosts also tackle the evolving world of NIL deals and transfer portal rules, highlighting a controversial transfer from Wisconsin to Miami. Plus, enjoy light-hearted stories of sports injuries, including Spencer's baseball mishap and Cody's banister surfing incident.Join the conversation as the hosts speculate on Deion Sanders' future at Colorado and the potential impact on the program. Don't miss out on these engaging discussions and insider perspectives—tune in for a fresh take on college football's hottest topics!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Notre Dame to the Big 12, Deion Sanders to the NFL, and the transfer portal gone. Three things that we probably won't talk about on the Big 12 Squad. You're talking ball with the Big 12 Squad, sponsored by Game Time. From Oklahoma State to Utah, from Kansas State to BYU, from Houston to Texas Tech, it's the local experts of the Lockdown Podcast Network bringing you scoops, breakdowns, and the most comprehensive preview of the upcoming Big 12 weekend. Buckle up. It's the Big 12 Squad, and we have a seat for you.
Starting point is 00:00:33 No hurt feelings and thin skin allowed. Squad up. You're part of the Big 12 Squad. Squad up. It's the Big 12. You ever notice that the beginning says, you're talking ball with the Big 12, and we should probably change that. We should really look at it.
Starting point is 00:00:47 And it only names like four schools. Like, hey, Baylor, screw you, man. No point in you being here in the Big 12 squad. I'm talking ball. Even Duke is in there. It's crazy. A great shout out, man. Hey, that is one of only two stadiums outside of Pasadena, California,
Starting point is 00:01:02 to host the Rose Bowl. Just in case you're wondering. Very nice. Was that the year that, remember the COVID year where they did the battle for Atlantis in like Asheville, North Carolina? It was lovely. All of the branding stayed the exact same.
Starting point is 00:01:16 I'm sure that football game was different. This is the Big 12 squad. These guys host shows as a part of the Locked On Big 12 network family of shows. Cody Stovall of Locked On Oklahoma State. Chris Level of Texas Tech is back. Jay Katch of BYU. Cam Stewart is at Real Cam Stewart.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Doesn't host a Big 12 squad. Fix that. Nick Maravets of Locked On Cyclones. Richie Bradshaw got hosed in the college football playoff. Kevin Borba's head coach might go to the NFL. And Parker Ainsworth is bad at football. Let's start with... Yeah, Parker, you're terrible at football. Parker specifically.
Starting point is 00:01:47 But good at teaching and coaching, baby. You are the problem in Houston. Now we know. Maybe if you liked a better Pop-Tart, man. I don't know. We just waxed Utah in basketball in a way I didn't know was possible. We're 7-0 in conference now. Parker sucks at football.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Opening of the show. What they just did to Utah, it should be illegal in most states too, by the way. New guy Nick and his Iowa State Cyclones made it to. Double fist in the five-hour energy. Does Willie Fritz know about all your teaching and coaching capabilities, bro? New guy Nick. New guy Nick. Never gets old.
Starting point is 00:02:24 We haven't been sponsored by five-hour energy. It's like the only time Nick has talked on this show, though. New guy Nick. New guy Nick. Never gets old. We haven't been sponsored by Five Hour Energy for a stick. It's like the only time Nick has talked on this show, though. It's the only time. Let's cool our jets here. Parker, that was like six words, man. Shoot. You got him tuned up and going, Parker. Now we'll never be able to slow him down.
Starting point is 00:02:42 No, fire it up. It was like ten seconds to get to word three, but yes, he is. Yeah. Parker, I think you got a little built bar right there, buddy.
Starting point is 00:02:50 You're going to scrape that off for a second. That's just brown nosing. Actually. That's what that is. Excuse me. Not Sanders. N I L all kinds of off season content. Why not talk expansion?
Starting point is 00:03:04 Realize it. Right guys. It's January. That's what the beauty of this month is for. Notre Dame, NIL, all kinds of offseason content. Why not talk expansion and realignment, right, guys? It's January. That's what the beauty of this month is for. Notre Dame, Ohio State, the national championship game, Ohio State wins it with a Big 12 quarterback. All of us saw Will Howard play in the Big 12. Most of us saw Will Howard play poorly at some point in time
Starting point is 00:03:18 against our teams in the Big 12. God, Cam, you're shaking your head. Remember the Adrian Martinez game where martinez starts it off and will howard has to come in he was never a full-time starter for kansas state avery johnson steps up starts in his place a couple times due to injury he replaced martinez when he first got there skylar thompson yeah was the starting quarterback and now he goes and wins a national championship at ohio state is that a sign the big 12 should add notre dame i can't see why not what i mean it's the only logical it's the only logical thing to take away from that game yeah hey irish come on down baby let's go
Starting point is 00:03:59 they lost by less than 60 in the championship game. So I don't know if we can welcome them into the Big 12. I don't know if that's allowed. They won multiple playoff games and didn't get blown out. That's just too much, right? And they're still sitting there holding that $20 million that they don't have to share with anybody. Screws me a duck. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Right. Is that, Nick, I know you're very passionate about the Notre Dame and the Big 12 topic. You texted me earlier and said that you really wanted a wax poetic man. Hit me. Yeah, well, I mean, the Golden Helmets, are you kidding me? And boom, record. That's the most he's spoken.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Record. Hit it. Think about the Jersey matchups. The Jersey matchups. The Gold Helmets. What more do I have to say? That sounds like every Notre Dame fan before this year. Like, what has Notre Dame done for me recently?
Starting point is 00:04:44 The Gold Helmets? Golden Helmets. Might I remind you? The Gold Helmets. fan before this year like what has notre dame done for me recently the gold helmets remind you the gold helmets their shamrock jerseys are pretty nice all right so notre dame can bring jerseys was offsides rudy also was a terrible person in real life apparently i've been watching a lot of tick tocks on that like dirty bro they made money in a pyu they didn't make fun of jo. Joe Montana on a podcast was like, hmm. Rudy's actually a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He's not even Catholic. He's a phony.
Starting point is 00:05:12 That's why they were making fun of him. Is Rudy even a real person? Like, everything is fake. Yes. Joe Montana did go on a podcast. They asked him what he thought about Rudy, and he was like, hmm. Rudy, man. Rudy. No, Rudy.
Starting point is 00:05:25 No, really. Yo, Montana. Really tough. Nick, is that it? Is that,
Starting point is 00:05:31 is that, is that exhaust your thoughts on Notre Dame and the big 12 of the jerseys? I've already exceeded my word limit at this point. I'm just waiting for segment two. You have a mountain dew for segment two. That's a real question. It's going,
Starting point is 00:05:43 going. I love that. We made fun of Chris. You, I don't know if you were, we're Dew for segment two. That's a real question. It's going with the bit. I like it. I love that we made fun of Chris. I don't know if you were here for all that. We really hammered Mountain Dew Paul the last couple of weeks over his Wi-Fi issues. And so, like, he went in and tried to get new Wi-Fi and somehow made his Wi-Fi worse and can no longer attend the squad show because his Wi-Fi is so bad. And yet he's out signing autographs.
Starting point is 00:06:08 My man. Yeah. Inside jokes, everybody. But I hope that he gets his – I saw the Verizon screenshot thing a while ago, but I hope he gets it squared away. Thoughts and prayers about your fall. Yeah, it's like hope he gets better soon. Hope he gets his Wi-Fi figured out.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Maybe the better question from Notre Dame losing the national championship is not Notre Dame to the Big 12, but why don't we all go independent? And, Jake, you can probably answer better than anyone. They made a lot of money off of this and shared it with nobody. Also, there are 11 votes for the college ball playoff committee that changes the format. One of those 11, the athletic director of Notre Dame. The other 10, conference commissioners. is there a benefit here somewhere to being independent absolutely because you like you said that that money you get you don't have to share that money
Starting point is 00:06:53 with anybody and the best part is they have decision-making power in what the future of the sport holds what what better situation could you have than what Notre Dame has currently can we can we not like Mark Harlan's on to something. I'm going to get out of here. There's a lot of benefits to being in BYU. Notre Dame and BYU are very much different situations than every school in our Big 12 squad. If Baylor went independent, they are not going to be the same market.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Same thing with Colorado, Houston, Texas Tech. None of these have the brand recognition, the brand sexiness or desirableness to go independent. There's a reason that. Borba, you keep my name out of your mouth, man. I'm just saying, you know, when I. The Matador Club, Borba. That's right. Have you seen a cactus?
Starting point is 00:07:36 They got the picture from Stanford softball. They're throwing money around now. They're getting big transfer portal classes. But realistically, the reason Notre Dame has been able to stay independent is because they have such a large brand. The same thing with BYU. They have such a large brand and following. It doesn't work for everyone. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:51 There is a reason when Stanford. What's just a second, Parker. I'm going to cut you off. Yeah. Take you, Parker. Sit down. Trying to find a conference. And the ACC was their life.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Their life raft. Everyone was like, why don't you go independent? And talks within Stanford was like, why don't you go independent? And talks within Stanford was like, we do not want to risk that because if you risk that and you don't make any money, then you can't sort of suck off other paws, other programs. Hello. Hold on. I'm cutting you off to say suck off.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Hey, hey, hey. Another name, Golden Dome. It's a Golden Dome. It's a Golden Dome Dome. When the dome is golden, bro, you don't need anything to suck off of. Are we talking about football still?
Starting point is 00:08:36 Talking ball, some kind of ball. Jake, speak to this though, because when you're not in the league, and Notre Dame can play all the directional schools, Purdue and Northern Illinois and all the stuff around them and USC, all this business. But, Jake, I want you to speak to, like, if you win a couple, lose a couple and all that, and you get to the middle of the season and there's no conference championship to win, how unsatisfying is the end of the season for, you know, regardless of the sport?
Starting point is 00:09:05 But I just think there's something to be said about that, too. That was the biggest thing with BYU football is they would lose one game and they already had their bowl affiliation for whatever year you want to insert there. You know exactly where they're going at the end of the season. Six wins, nine wins, ten wins. It didn't really matter where BYU was going to end up. So that's the tough part that Notre Dame has to combat every single season is that if they lose a couple of games, yeah, they're out of the playoff picture.
Starting point is 00:09:28 In this era, maybe two or three would get them out of the playoff picture. But BYU, it was a slog because you're in the middle of a season. They start a season maybe 5-0 a couple of times. You're like, okay, things are rolling. But as soon as they drop to 5-1 and heaven forbid 5-2, you're like, okay, well, we're going to, let's say, insert hawaii bowl or independence whatever the bowl game was assigned that year and on top of that like you can't climb back into the playoff picture yes you know what i mean like uh uh you know baylor was almost in the big 12 championship game i don't know if you guys
Starting point is 00:09:59 saw that almost and starting two and four. Every single team in the conference is almost in the Big 12. Not every. If you're Notre Dame and you're like three and two, now you can't climb yourself really back into that. If you go 10 and two in the Big 10 or the Big 12, all of a sudden you're very much in the picture again. But as an independent, you can't do that. But it does help when your AD is voting as to who gets into the playoffs. I mean, Notre Dame's got the best the
Starting point is 00:10:26 best situation of all time i mean and and again everybody else has allowed it to happen but it's not going to change and they're not going to change it i mean it's it's just something everybody's going to have to live with but they have built-in uh you know accessibility and nobody else is going to get that bottom line and they're they have no incentive whatsoever to join a league and i wouldn't if i was them either yeah they're too big for bowl games again if we all refuse to play them but it's too big a money draw to play them and then i also think that like both byu and notre dame have this large because of the catholic church and the lds like they they have these large international fan bases and like baylor and the Baptist can't quite pull that or
Starting point is 00:11:05 SMU in the method it just it's not quite the same cachet Parker here's the deal BYU yeah they have a massive fan base but guess they were super willing to jump into a conference the second opportunity arose to join the big 12s the independence thing is a slog and Notre Dame is the one program that has been independent for decades. And we're talking 100 plus years of their history. They're really the only ones that can make it a viable thing in this day and age, as Chris referred to. They have every advantage that they need to make independence work. Nobody else, not even BYU, can make it work under these circumstances. Not that I'm a fan of the independent deal here, but if you are going to take that big market team,
Starting point is 00:11:45 like Iowa State doesn't have the market for it. Stop it, Cam. What is he doing? On a team like Alabama, a team like Alabama, look at SMU this year. Why did you say Alabama like you were hosting Lockdown Alabama? Why did you say that like that? That's how you have to say it, right? Let's be easy on him.
Starting point is 00:12:04 He's going outside of his comfort zone. If I lose the conference championship, like SMU, and then you're in trouble of making the playoff, did Notre Dame play a conference championship this year? Nope. So if you have the appeal of like an Alabama or maybe a Georgia now, I don't see why that's a bad move. And the HBC was fun on their title game now but there's like five schools in
Starting point is 00:12:27 college football that could go independent or maybe like six right and be profitable like it's not built for everyone it's not meant for everyone to try because then you're left out you're hung out to dry and you also have to have some sort of conference agreement yeah yeah but i think what nick is getting at bcc member what nick is getting out here though is why if you're North Carolina, even Jordan brand, why not do it? Notre Dame's proving I could probably just go do that. Maybe a Big 12 school can't right now, but if you're North Carolina or if you're Alabama, Ohio State, you're going to be fine. Notre Dame, I made the case to Spencer McLaughlin, like, hey, what if they lose the next 10 years? Well, they made enough money this year.
Starting point is 00:13:04 They can. As long as they just go to the playoff once every now and then, they're fine lose the next 10 years? Well, they made enough money this year. They can't. As long as they just go to the playoff once every now and then, they're fine in the money category because they don't split it up. We are way past that. I have to tell the entire world about therapy. They're going to cut my stuff. Let's go with that.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Talk space exists. We'll have to cut out like a minute. Distance to us. No, we're keeping all of that in there. Including the dome? You mean the suck off part? Yes. Yes. Yes! Yes!
Starting point is 00:13:26 Yes! It's staying in! We have more stockage, please. And next week, Jake will host. Locked on Big 12 hosts, let go. And coming up, we will talk NIL is dead. Locked on Big 12 squad. Part of the Locked On Podcast.
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Starting point is 00:14:48 You can't quit. You told us you'd stay here two years. You signed a contract for NIL. And he said, try me. I will unenroll from this university, reenroll at Miami and just go play football, proving that the transfer portal, it's just not a thing anymore. You don't even have to do it. You don't have to enter the transfer portal unenroll enroll somewhere else and you're immediately eligible um number one insane the ncaa was just like yeah i guess whatever you can do that uh two this truly does now why would i go through the steps of the transfer portal process when i can just be like all right deuces and go do and go do whatever I want. Has the NCAA been able to enforce anything? They'll get sued. They'll get sued, and they'll lose.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Kevin took the words right out of my mouth. I think other than us having a conversation about NIL being dead, maybe we should have the conversation of when is the NCAA going to be dead because they realistically do not do anything anymore. It's a smoke and mirrors show. Now, I do understand that they do some minute details that the conferences don't want to deal with, but outside of that, the regulation capabilities are zero
Starting point is 00:15:55 and nobody respects them. Anything attached to the NCAA, it's kind of like when the government used to say it's a conspiracy theory, that's the NCAA. That's what they've become from a public perception standpoint. Well, we just watched a guy literally fly right in the face of a contract that you mentioned, Drake. He signed a contract with Wisconsin, says, you know what? That's for the birds.
Starting point is 00:16:17 I'm out. Jumps to Miami and essentially says, hold me to it. Essentially, make me live up to that contract. And the NCAA is like, oh, well, yeah, no big deal. That's fine. To your point, Drake, the transfer portal now is null and void. And that's a really bad precedent. Once again, the NCAA is set.
Starting point is 00:16:35 And it goes to what Cody is saying. They're absolutely feckless right now. So we're junior college years. Yeah. He's going to be 30 by the time he graduates without a doctorate degree it's impressive i what i need help with is let's go junior college baby let's say that i work at five guys all right i wouldn't sign a two-year let's say that i work at the savannah golf club and i signed a two-year contract right and i walk in after the first year and say i quit
Starting point is 00:17:01 they can't be like nope you don you don't. See you tomorrow. You're working here another year. You know, I don't – they can't just hold me hostage nine to five for the next year. There has to be some sort of – what I don't understand is – No, but there are non-compete clauses and things like that in contracts. Sure, that's what we need, yeah. But if the interplay is not going to do it, it would be something in the contract like this.
Starting point is 00:17:23 We had the federal government strike down no-competes, guys. That's a longer thing. Who is going to be the – Parker would already tell you that his team had a no-compete clause. Hey! He's dead, Chris. They're already dead. So about basketball. Does Joey know about the loophole, by the way? Hey, he's dead, Chris. They're already dead. Well, he's down.
Starting point is 00:17:45 So about basketball. Does Joey know about the loophole, by the way? Because there is someone who's apparently back out on the market that tech might be interested in. And he was maybe on campus. I've heard that. No way. Break it. Break it.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Break it. Say it, Chris. Say it, Chris. It releases on thursday say it back with the right now i've already done an episode i was too busy taking shots at parker now you've dragged me down and here we are in the money question for you though do you what we don't know the verbiage of his contract so like what if he was paid i think it's pronounced verbiage but i get it whatever it would be just fancier and he's not even gonna have a doctorate it sounds crazy say he was paid two hundred thousand dollars up front
Starting point is 00:18:29 took that money left is that not like a violation of the contract that's a little different than your golf scenario but that's the situation that that's a hand here is what was that a lump sum payment paid right up front he has that money and he runs away we had the kid from alabama that transferred to iowa went right back to Alabama after cashing, whatever, $200,000 check with that car dealership. So let's be honest. What's happening is this is the wild west beyond anything that anybody expected. And the sad part is there are no guardrails on it because the NCAA doesn't have
Starting point is 00:19:01 any interest or any legs to stand on to be able to enforce anything at this point. And they're not going to. The players have the control. The players have the control, period. Is it okay for us as college football fans to not like that? Like, are we too boomer-ish? Like, I think the players should get paid. It was ridiculous what it was.
Starting point is 00:19:20 But, like, come on, man. The contracts can be huge if there's somebody to regulate it. There's no point in a contract if nobody's going to hold you liable for signing the diagonal. Well, part of this – No, to Cody's point, you also need some sort of collective bargaining for that. And the truth is that right now it's a player exerting his will to get out of a contract.
Starting point is 00:19:44 The sad part of this for a college athlete is going to be when some school does the inverse of this to him. That's going to be the flip side of this. Because kids are also getting told, hey, you need to get in the transfer portal because you ain't playing here. That's also happening here to a lot of college athletes. And as much as we want to blame the kids, when I was a junior in college, a company reached out like, hey, we know you're well-connected in journalism you just left sick on 365 come work for us we're an nil broker you can be an nil agent and they showed me the dollar signs that were in that i was like oh shoot like this is those deals are being cut and they're being cut very in very shady ways
Starting point is 00:20:20 because the dude that's representing the quote, quote, representing the kid, is getting a massive chunk of that $200,000. 20% went public and said they get 20%. Yes. Oh, yeah. Which is absurd. NFL agents get like three to five. There's no agency that gets 20% outside of that. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:20:39 That's why these NIL agents, they're a diamond dozen. They will do anything. Now, McLaughlin's agent gets 20%. I can assure you that. I mean, there's a – Actually, actually – That's T-double-A, baby. McLaughlin pays them 40 bucks a month.
Starting point is 00:20:55 And for what? And for what? My agent gets 100%, Chris, because I am the agent. There you go. By the way, I pop in here late in the show, and we're having honest-to-goodness serious conversations about NIL and the portal. What has happened to the Big 12 squad that I love? All right, Big 12 squad.
Starting point is 00:21:21 I wasn't able to make it today, so I apologize for that, but still want to send in a video question for you all. I recently sprained my ankle playing basketball, so I want to know what are some of the – Okay. Yes, first and last name in there. That's a small up for JT. I don't know what he is.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Spencer, all you missed – Spencer, all you got to say, you missed earlier, you missed sucking off. That's all you missed. Golden Dome, baby. Golden Dome. Golden Dome. It missed the Golden Dome combo. It was quite the slip. It was quite the slip. That's more Big 12
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Starting point is 00:22:55 Download game time today. Last minute tickets. Lowest prices guaranteed. Why does my name get fumbled in here? I like it. I like it every time that Drake mentioned it. Why does my name get fumbled in here? I like it. I like it every time that Drake mentioned it. Maravets is out here with 17 different ways to pronounce his last name, and you fumbled mine that has two.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Maravets. I just learned it's not Christian. I don't want this Irish stuff in here. I kept saying Christian Rua. I was like, oh, yeah, Christian Rua. And then Zach Blackerby said, what? That's a really good Zach impression, by the way. We also called him the Jayhawks, so that was rough.
Starting point is 00:23:32 That's McLaughlin. Is that what we got? McLaughlin with us? McLaughlin. I will remember. All right, Big 12 squad. Wasn't able to make it today, so I apologize for that, but still want to send in a video question for you all.
Starting point is 00:23:46 I recently sprained my ankle playing basketball, so I want to know what are some of the dumbest injuries you guys have ever suffered. And with our great collection of characters we have for hosts, I am expecting some elite answers. I'll see you all soon. Why did you play his ball? You were playing the whole thing. Why did you play his ball? Let me volunteer. Let me, let whole thing let me volunteer let me let me let me let me
Starting point is 00:24:08 volunteer no i'm so no i'm no i've never had an opportunity to bring this up before when i was 14 years old my grandfather flew up from south or from southern california to watch me and my JBO team play in the district tournament. And the day before our first game. Junior bleep. Yeah, all right. Let's bust out the bleep. Okay, I kid you not, though. He flies up for that.
Starting point is 00:24:41 The day before our first game at practice i am playing first base because i have a shoulder injury it's all i can play now if you've met me in person you know that me playing first base at age 14 is hilarious absolutely hilarious a baseball is thrown when i am not looking and it hits me on the lip and knocks two of my teeth out of their sockets and they are held in These are those teeth by the way, they are held in that's why they're like that Yeah, perfect, yeah That's exactly right They are held in by my braces and they are jammed back into my mouth a couple hours later by my orthodontist
Starting point is 00:25:23 All the true story I will not show the photos because it is gory as can be it will gross some people out but i never thought i would tell that story on the air and here we are well did you learn your lesson spencer you're supposed to look when the ball's coming at you yeah well here's the thing the ball wasn't supposed to be thrown there was no eye contact between myself and the guy who threw the ball. You played first base. The ball wasn't supposed to be thrown.
Starting point is 00:25:50 No, but see, okay, all right. I didn't give every deed to talk about victim blaming here. Holy smokes. So I'd thrown a ground ball across the field. He fielded it, but then coach coach stops practice so we all look at home plate because he's explaining a drill i then turned to my second baseman to ask a question and never made eye contact with the third baseman who threw it across the field and didn't say anything while the ball was in the air i'm delayed let's flip it do we do we see the iron
Starting point is 00:26:23 or do we see the wrong? Do we see the irony? I just got asked six questions at once. Did you want to go one at a time, children? Levels go in irony. Level one is irony. JT's asking about bizarre injuries, and he sprained his ankle. Yeah, I know. What are you doing, dude?
Starting point is 00:26:40 I sprained my ankle playing basketball. You guys have done something crazy like that? Crazy as my ankle. Yeah. I twisted my ankle playing basketball. You guys ever done something crazy like that? The craziest thing I've ever done is play basketball. Yeah. I twisted my ankle. Do you think you can visualize JT playing basketball? No.
Starting point is 00:26:53 I was struggling with that one myself. Not well. Yeah, not playing well. Bet he plays better than Utah does. You all see the score tonight? Boom. Dude, they had 17 points with 14 minutes to go in the game. That's Big 12, baby.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Welcome to the Big 12. Hold on. Caleb Lohner, JT Lister, so one-on-one. Who dribbles it off their leg first? Who dribbles it off their leg? Tom's got to give. Caleb really likes doing that, man. I was going to say, Caleb Lohner likes to dribble off every body part,
Starting point is 00:27:23 it seems like. Oh! Yeah! Yeah, yeah. Wow. Kevin's mind went straight to the gutter with that comment from Hatch. I saw him at the Utah game up in Salt Lake City, and Caleb's doing well for himself. Yeah, he's doing well. He got his revenge on BYU this past weekend.
Starting point is 00:27:45 He had two points in 12 minutes. I got a concussion banister surfing once. Oh, okay. What surfing? Banister surfing. Like staircase. Yeah, you get down the... The thing that everybody else can do,
Starting point is 00:27:58 except for the one time I tried it outside Martin Hall almost 10 years ago on the campus of Baylor University. Martin Hall. Backwards at full speed, first out of the cement yeah how many beverages were involved in that injury freakishly not a lot man this is pure stupidity bill bars couple bill bars and then i go to the hospital go to the hospital all spaced out and they run some tests on me i have almost no idea what's going on they come back like a half hour later and they go yep legs fine hey and i was just like yeah okay might be cracked open here but my legs fine yeah like no idea what my name was hey
Starting point is 00:28:41 two was wrist was okay all right two was wrist was dra Tua's wrist was okay, all right? Tua's wrist was... Drake, that's the worst body part you could have picked. His wrist was not okay. It was bending sideways, and he couldn't move. You got to do the concussion test. I need you to tell me what color a fire truck is. And they say 17, and you go, you're good. Get back in there, Tua.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Go play for the Dolphins. Looks good to me. Go play for the Dolphins. We have, like, two minutes left. Borba, Dion and the AD were at odds, like, four Go play for the Dolphins. Looks good to me. Go play for the Dolphins. We have like two minutes left. Borba, Deion of the AD were at odds like four days ago. It's still news. Welcome to the offseason. What's going on there?
Starting point is 00:29:11 Is it okay? Is he going to stay at Colorado? Yeah, I think he's going to stay at Colorado. There's been no interview with the Dallas Cowboys, and there won't be one. I think the problem is Deion Sanders wants Colorado. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I heard on Locked On Big 12 that the Dallas Cowboys were hiring Deion Sanders. Wow. That's because the host of Locked On Big 12 is a
Starting point is 00:29:27 schmuck. The Locked On Big 12 host made a comment about my hair, and this is like the worst podcast to talk about hair. There's a lot of receiving hairlines and hats on this show, so we can't trust that guy. And some of them, some of the hair on this show looks like this. Oh my gosh, Richie!
Starting point is 00:29:43 Yeah! Richie, there are children watching this show deon sanders wants the program to invest more into the the football team i think it's as simple as that and i think this is just all a big old leverage scheme i got a question would they fire the ad before they fired deon if that's what came came to, yeah. Why would you ever want Dion to leave? Then why is this a conversation? Right. Can anyone here tell me that I can?
Starting point is 00:30:11 The AD at Colorado, not named Borba. He has two first names. Yes, I can. I can. Level probably could. McLaughlin can. Hatch, all right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Who's the head football coach at Colorado? And scene. Coach Brian. That's all I needed. This says, you know what I'm going to call it right now. Kansas state's going to beat Baylor in Waco. Yeah. The game's happening as we record this shocking.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Not when this comes out. Right. That's why I'm saying it now. So it's time capsule. So the people listened back. They're like, oh, wow. He's a genius. Same as I was.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Oh, this has been. Richie, I need you to always wear hats again. This is Ben. Richie, I need you to always wear hats again. I don't think I've ever seen you without a hat on. I will start doing my hair moving forward, and it's going to look better than Kevin's. Hey, my barber's out of town, and he had a kid. I can't do much. We have a haircut tomorrow, so can we redo the show?
Starting point is 00:31:04 Can he go out of town to have the kid? Yeah, what's going on there? He had a kid we go out of town to have the kid yeah what's going on there he had a kid went out of town my barber is no questions no got questions get the milk and cigarettes i love it yeah that's such an odd combination why would you have a newborn and then decide to go out of town he skipped town or he just lived? He'd like the baby to see Santa Fe. I can laugh about his personal life, but he likes to talk crypto. But, I mean, like I said, this is – This guy sounds like a great guy. Can we get him to go? This is good.
Starting point is 00:31:33 He has to talk hair on because, I mean, he should definitely be procreating. Who is the – Drake could just pop him up like the same Bill Snyder guy. Just like – Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got questions. David Howard? Bourbon's hairstylist, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:44 David Howard, is that right? He has like eight children? Well, heylist yeah davian howard is that right he has like eight children well he was pumping them out there for a bit right nick cannon yeah yeah antonio cromarty wow wow we could keep going um should we though should we keep going hide the wee wee man you gotta put a hat on it you gotta put it on that golden dome, man. Golden dome, baby. I'm trying to think of a Raider rash joke, but it's just not coming to me. I just want it to be known that the thought is there. Tell me, man.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Playing hide the wee-wee. Drake and the damn show, man. Locked on. Thanks for making it. Spencer, you wanted this. This is what you wanted, man. This is true. This is true.
Starting point is 00:32:22 All good things must come to an end. Drake's January 6th. Not your first or second, just something you listen to somehow. Man, it always will be the Joe St. Grande squad.

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