Locked On Jayhawks - Daily Podcast On Kansas Jayhawks Football & Basketball - BIG 12 SQUAD - Offseason Drama HEATING UP for Kansas Jayhawks

Episode Date: December 18, 2025

Utah’s Kyle Whittingham emerges as a likely candidate to take over at Michigan, setting off one of the most unexpected coaching carousel moves in recent college football history. Can Whittingham’s approach and legacy translate to success in Ann Arbor, and would his staff follow him or remain tied to Morgan Scalley? The crew breaks down the drama, and questions abound over Michigan’s future roster, leadership, and the impact on Big 12 dynamics.BYU fans are fired up as Notre Dame is accused of dodging the Cougars in bowl matchups, sparking talk about underdog narratives and college football prestige. Deion Sanders’ transformative effect on Colorado—on and off the field—is spotlighted, alongside concerns about his longevity and succession plans with rising assistant Brennan Marion. Plus, the panel debates Texas high school football recruiting, scandals, and which coaches truly fit Michigan’s high-pressure program. Will Sanders build a lasting legacy in Boulder, or is another seismic shift on the horizon? Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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thursday night everybody welcome into the big 12 squad i'm drake's hole from america's number one big 12 podcast locked on big 12 jacatch of locked on b y you cougars kevin borba of locked on buffs and he showed up four minutes late to the show but i guess we'll let him in it's j t hestersell of Locked on you. I thought we had a show without him, but the show wouldn't be the same. If you hit subscribe, we all get to keep our jobs insane week in the Big 12 this week.

Hatch, we will start with you. JTM. I'm very excited to talk Kyle Whittingham. Yeah. Snip, snap, Snip, snap, didn't want to retire, then wanted to retire,

then didn't want to retire. Now he could be coaching in Michigan. But the future of Dion Sanders is a huge storyline with the buffs do in the transfer portal. But Hatch, Notre Dame, Ducks, BYU, and now the Koo I watched. It's the saddest thing I've ever seen.

Kalanisitake lowering a Pop-Tarts into a trophy for an 11-win team that thought it was going to the college ball playoff and I was lowering Pop-Tarts into a trophy. How are the vibes in BYU land? Up and down. I think the team is motivated to finish the season the right way, Drake, but it's a second straight year that they have finished in a bowl game that they think is beneath their status relative to what they accomplished this season. So I am interested to see how they ultimately play. play when they take the field down there in Orlando.

But yeah, the vibes with the fan base are not very high because they obviously feel like they should have been in a better position when it came to the college football playoff. What's your message to Notre Dame who ducked you and they are cowards? Yeah, exactly that. You're cowards. You guys need to stop acting like it's beneath you to play in a bowl game. This is a program that gave us Rudy.

And as one of our former columnist here at the Saltier Tribune, Steve Loom, tweet, it out they are for a program that gave us the underdog story the gritty never say die rudy story they up and quit that's that's pretty pathetic on their part yeah that is i mean that's the nother dame thing though whenever when things get hard or things don't go their way like they hate rudy right joe montana's always talking smack about rudy how it's like we hate them and it's like all this like what just do something good rudy's a convert to the church of jesus christ laturday saints jens so he's now a mormon so there we go so the religious training No. It is kind of funny, too, with this whole Notre Dame thing because they act like, you know, we got our NBC deal. We're such a big time product. Like they only play it, I think, in one of the 20 most high profile games this season. So their brand is totally diminishing. And once again, this is another bad look by them just to be whining and crying everywhere about how badly they got screwed and being so mad. They're like, no, we're just going to go home, like not even go out there and prove how good we are if you were to beat a BYU team that once again was right on the cusp of getting in too. So it is a bad look for them. I understand people have their feelings about bull.

games, but it's unfortunate, but I know you, Drake, you didn't like the video of Sataki and Brett Key? I kind of like their little back and forth. I think it's still going to be a fun bowl. It was fun and BYU is making the most of this. It's also really sad. Like the BYU should be preparing to go on the road for a college football playoff game, a better strength of record, better strength of schedule, more wins than Miami. I got blown out twice. Sorry, that just came up. That got stuck against the number 14, which if you've listed, those who've listened to Locked on Big 12 would know that like Alabama beating being Ohio State 44-21 in the national championship.

Ohio State had won a playoff game. It was still a blowout in Ohio State's probably the second best team in the country that year. BYU could very well be the eighth best team in America and still get blown out by number four. We've seen at the top of college football year in and year out. It doesn't mean they didn't deserve a chance. I think they did. Miami got in and we could beat that dead horse for weeks and surely we will this offseason. JT, sitting behind me is an 85-inch TV.

And yes, I'm in my childhood bedroom back in my hometown. I walk in, I said, Dad, I've got to record, you can't just have this 85-inch TV with BeachTow over it sitting behind my setup. And he was like, well, if you don't like that, you're really going to hate the second 85-inch TV that is right behind it. There are two of them behind me. And if you're wondering, why, it's because there was a sale at Sam's on 85-inch TVs. So my grandma calls my dad and said, I got you one. And he shows up Sam to pick it up. The guy at Sam says, you want a second one?

They say, of course not. Why would we need two? And he says, I'll give it to you over $300. It's a display. So that's how we have two 85-inch TVs behind me. And no matter how bad I'd like to get rid of them on this show, sometimes you just can't get rid of certain things. Kyle Woodingham, not one of those certain things.

You wanted that 85-inch TV out of the room for years, and now you finally moved it out. And it said, I don't want to go to the basement. You can't put me in the basement. I'm going to Ann Arbor, Michigan. This is one of the weirdest head coaching carousel situations I've ever seen in college football. Really? With all the crap we've seen this year?

So to me, this isn't that great. He didn't hold a knife to his neck and threaten his mistress. I will give you that. And his stripper wife's monkey did not attack a neighbor. So. Bull assassin, baby. Pull assassin. Oh, forget, pull assassin.

I will give you that, J.T. Yes. Okay, this whole thing with Kyle Whittingham, the only thing I will say is if this happened, it's Michigan, right? So there's going to be some interest in what is one of the top 10 jobs in the country. To me, it's not that crazy to want to leave Utah and go to a Michigan, especially when you spent- They kick him out. Hold on, hold on. They can kick him out.

J-T. When you make coaching transitions, typically it's not a Friday newsdom to announce your head coach is stepping down, not actually retiring, stepping down. And then Saturday to announce it via a. another press release in a Saturday news dump to announce the ascension of your defense order. They haven't, they haven't had a formal press conference for any of this,

JT. That tells me that not everything's hunky dory in Salt Lake City with these two. I think that's fair. I think it's fair to say everything's not hunky dory, but I'll also say this, right? Like Kyle Whittingham was supposed to step down last year, wanted to come back,

have one more strong season, was able to have that. And then, hey, right off into the sunset. But as he was riding off into the sunset, one of the top 10 jobs in the sport is currently open to right now. He just told us he doesn't want to ride off of the sunset. He's not ready for that ride.

He wants to continue coaching. Utah wouldn't let him. They were ready for the next regime. They were ready for Morgan's Cali. They looked at the legend and said, we're good. This isn't a uncommon thing. I think it's just it's not very often that it happens when there's nothing else happening in a way. Like Michigan obviously happened right before.

But Utah was kind of like central to the conversation. I remember when I covered Stanford, they gave David Shaw the same sort of option at the in there because it was like three and nine three and nine it's like david we love you and you're the most winning as coach and program history but this isn't great so you either get your dignity and say you could quit or step away which i think they gave cow winning him and i think he deserved that sort of treatment um or we could fire you and obviously be unceremonous but we're not going to fire him i will say that right no way you think they would have fired him jake yeah no but like they definitely showed him the door and we're like please exit stage left where i would push back a bit here

but what makes it different is Whittingham set his own timeline. He effectively, he told the administration, he was like, 2024, baby, mortgage, and it could have been earlier because Scali sent some racial things in a text message. And so Scali couldn't be the head coach in waiting. Whittingham may have actually held on for a couple years extra. And then the administration said, oh, remember when you told us you were retiring in 2024, do it? And he said, one more year. And they came him one more year. Then they get to the end of this year. Like, all right, it's time.

right you told it this time i don't it's like one more year he gave he gave them the 65 timeline jt i think we we talked about that when that first happened me and you and i was like why would he do that because it's like now that's going to be a storyline up until that moment and he's 66 right now so he outlived his timeline and i can insert i can insert a little bit on that his dad passed away at the age of 64 fred senior who obviously had a really outsized impact on his life for but and that's why he often and talked about wanting to step aside like 64, 65 years old, because he understood his dad really never got an opportunity to be a true grandpa. He was a coach till the very end and ultimately passed. So I think that's why he put that timeline out there. But as I have often observed with

these coaches, the closer those deadlines come. And if you still got your energy, you still got your health, you still feel like you've got it. It's hard to step away. And money, sure. Michigan money. He could tell those grandkids, like, hey, you want a nicer Christmas this year or next And the other thing about the Kyle Wittingham situation is he's been very proud that his kids got to go to the same elementary, junior high, and high schools all throughout growing up, which doesn't happen in the coaching industry. Well, now that his kids are all grown, he's got grandkids and the like, this may be the time for him to, you know, uproot from Utah and maybe try going to Ann Arbor and seeing what he could do with Michigan. Because he has aspirations of continuing to do something. It feels like in the game of football and leading to Michigan Wolverines would be awesome. That's weird.

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your shot the future of kyle what again i think over he's probably going to end up in like an nfl advisory type of role i think it would actually make a lot of sense for him and mission for one year to come to an agreement on something because i just think from michigan standpoint they are trying why would they only do one year i mean you think about like willie fritz is the same age as kyle what i can wait fritz is actually a year older right now a hair older like i'd why not just a whole lot of winning him like saving was 71 72 a time of retirement michigan could milk this for four or five years i still don't think cow winning him i'll say it this way i don't think Kyle Whittingham is all in on a multi-year rebuild, doing everything it takes into days.

No, they're not in three. Maybe not a rebuild, that's fair. But what it takes to run a college football program every single day, especially when you don't have something in place like he had at Utah, that he had a lot, there was a lot of things going on to help him at Utah that I don't think he'd have multiple years at Michigan. I think he'd have to do more there. They would expect more from him there because he is Utah football in Utah. He is not Michigan football.

If he walks in there, the reporters, the city with that team with that program is, he didn't build that. He walks into that. So, but for one year, like, it doesn't get better for a Band-Aid head coach than Kyle winning him. So that's why I think it would be a good one-year deal thing. I just don't, I don't look at Kyle Winningham and go, he wants to do this another four years. I still don't really, I think he's still running. I think he is running out of juice a little bit. He had all the juice this past season, but I don't feel like he is like, okay, I want to do this for 10 more years and I want to dig in all.

There has been changes to college football that I see. still don't think he's loved and that worked in his favor at Utah that I don't think you get the benefit of at Michigan right now. So I think it's more likely he's an NFL advisor than head coach of a college football team, even though I think Michigan should hire him for one year. To support JT. a little bit here, Jake, I do think Kyle Whittingham in July is much different than Kyle Whittingham in December or when you get done with your last game. You're like, no, no, no, no, no, I want it back. I want it back. And then come July again when you've been through spring and you've been to the transfer portal twice, you're saying what he was saying

a big 12 media days last year just like I'm tired I was ready and then I took another year Jake if he did take a Michigan job I'm gonna use your KSL card here if you took a Michigan job how much of the staff would go with them like are they are they tied to Morgan Scali or do they love Uncle Witt there's a split honestly and that that's the thing about this you'd probably see I could think of guys like man just off the top of my head look at their offensive line coach in particular I'm a names escape melissa Jim Harding Jim Harding has been a a Kyle guy. So I would imagine the gym would probably would go with him. A Sharif Shaw, who's been the cornerbacks coach and special teams coordinator, he's a Kyle

Whittingham disciple. I think you'd see that squad essentially split and speaking of the coaching staff. But to your point, if he is a feeling like maybe I'm not up for running a program, well, here's his new title, special assistant to the head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs, helping his old buddy Andy Reid. I think, by the way, really quick, that would be very dangerous, in my opinion. If Michigan brought in wit, and said, clean house with his staff. Like, get rid of Wink Martindale, get rid of the offensive side of the ball.

I don't think Michigan would keep Bryce Underwood, and he is the most important player associated with that university. If I'm Michigan, I would almost just want to bring, oh, this is the money. Who doesn't have money? Yeah, but Michigan's up there. Larry Ellison is the second richest person in the world.

Exactly. And if he believes in Kyle Whittingham, though, that's the important part is, does he believe in Kyle Whittingham enough to give him that money? and who doesn't say that maybe a Jason Beck goes with him to Michigan and now maybe entice Bryce Underwood to stick around.

Oh, that's a great point. We, and by the time this show drops, recording on Tuesday night, Kenny Dillingham could already be on the plane. You know, like, we could be talking about Whittingham with... Why does he keep crying? Why does he keep crying?

That's what I need to know. He keeps crying a lot. And when they asked him at his press conference on Tuesday, if he was going to make the move, he was like, I don't know. I'm thinking about me, I'm thinking about my family, thinking about my kids,

thinking about the staff, thinking about everybody. I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking about it. Like, he did not. The only person who can you do, Kenny Dillingham a favor is Jedfish. If Jedfish accepts the job before Kenny Dillingham,

like they say they gave him an ultimatum. And it's like, hey, Kenny, accept the job by tomorrow. And Jedfish is willing to pull the trigger sooner. That may help Kenny Dillingham stop crying because every interview I see of him, he's in tears being short with reporters going, I'm doing what's best for the people around me. And it's like, okay, you're clearly talking yourself into taking this, right?

And what's so cool, I think, People forget often that the staff is what makes this. If you're OC, your DC, your O-line coach, wide receivers coach don't want to go with you. It makes a decision much different. Gary Patterson talked about this behind the scenes and on our show. He's like, man, there are seven or eight times where big school offers in the SEC and they want to give millions more dollars. I look around the room. I say, do we want to do this?

Do your families want to do this? Is this the right spot? And not once was there a consensus that the room wanted to go. And because of that, he stayed at TCU. despite bigger offers, that there's a piece of that for Witt. If Witt could get half his staff to go somewhere, maybe he rebuilds in a different spot for three or four years. But if he can't get hatch anybody, then I don't think there's any way to do that.

And that's the point. I think you point out because J.T., you're right. You don't dump Wink Martindell and some of the guys who have been there at Michigan because it's not a rebuild. They were 9 and 3 this year. You have a stud young quarterback in Bryce Underwood who's going to have all kinds of offers from other programs trying to entice him to leave. But to Kevin's point, could you go there, get in good camaraderie with a guy like Larry Ellison and say, hey, Larry, give me three or four years.

Give me the refunds to do what we need to do to build this up. And let's chase a national title because I know that Kyle Winningham, he wants to win. He wants to win at a high level. And Michigan truly could offer that opportunity to chase a national title that he absolutely, I think, in his heart of hearts, wants to pursue. Is Kyle Winningham a Michigan man? And I don't mean the scandals. more than he he likes to do things his way he likes to sort of manipulate not manipulate the media but he's very blunt right he likes to not do things a certain way will that fly at michigan if he

doesn't immediately succeed is it just jim harbaugh's style man i know more khakis though jake it's different call win him have no quirk there's no quirk i think cow winning him is more of a michigan man than any other candidate i'm curious what you guys think i know this isn't locked on michigan i don't think Kenny Dillingham would work there and I think he's a fantastic coach. I don't think Jed Fish would work there. I think any of those coaches get that job. I think they'll be out in three years because that also, I'm just going to say something. Michigan is like the second most miserable fan base in college football only behind Alabama. They keep chasing something like every single year we need to win a national title and it's unhealthy. So Drake, you're feeling the same way about

Dillingham. Yeah, I see Rich Rodriguez in Kenny Dillingham. The young, fiery, big motivator who Michigan fans like, oh, we got the guy from the little school that's winning at the little school. And then they are, you just immediately fall flat in your face and they hate you. And then your hometown hates you. And then 15 years later, you come back. Jonathan Smith. Okay, fair. Kenny, Kenny Dillingham has pointed out that he lived on the same street as his parents, his in-laws, his sister. He does not want to uproot from Tempe, but I think, I think it's Borgbe pointed out. Drake, I think is you. He's trying to talk himself into taking this job. But if you're trying to talk yourself into taking the job, that's not

the right motivation. I mean, that means they're offering a lot more money and resources than ASU can match. And that's the problem. Yeah, but he wants ASU to pony up because he is using his blood. Will my friend Dion Sanders be on the sidelines next year? That's a good question. Locked on Big 12. Borba can answer it. Today show is brought you by Fandul. Fandul is exactly where I go every single day during the NFL season, college basketball season, college football season, bowl season, all of it. Fandle is my spot, especially for live bats. Because let's say that I'm watching the big game and the Panthers are losing by seven to the Saints. I keep thinking, I know the Panthers are better than the Saints and they're going to

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wins and losses and championships and rings. I'm talking about revamping and growing a city. Boulder is better because of what Dion's done. The money being there, he could lose for the next 10 years and they would leave him in place because he is the cash cow for what Colorado needs right now. That said, why would he keep doing it? Why has he not retired yet as of, hopefully we're recording Tuesday, as of Tuesday, December 16th, why is he not retired yet? Yeah, I think there's a couple reasons. For one, he has a legacy to uphold. And I don't think a lot of people around college football or football in general really agree with me on this. And that's totally fine.

But Dion Sanders is very proud of the legacy he leads in the NFL and the MLB. He is very proud of it. And I think he wants to leave Colorado in a place where they want to build him a statue. I think he wants that. Now, whether or not his health will let him get there, I don't know. But I do think his hiring of Brennan Marion shows that he's fully invested. right i don't think you hire away one of the best offensive minds in college football if you're not invested so i think he cares about his legacy and two i think so many people forget what it's like

and i'm not a parent so i don't get this but whenever you moved out and your parents were sad i'm an only child so i guess i do get this my parents were crushed like his kids have moved out for the most part their dion junior is still in boulder with him but his daughter is playing basketball i forget we're at another college chador's in the nfl and then shiloh is in miami um making videos and he's a content creator now, right? He has an empty nest, right? There is no point in him just like stepping away from coaching

just because of it. I think his only real, the only real thing that I worried about from a Colorado perspective was him trying to get an NFL job with Shador, but that obviously was not going to matriculate as much as people thought it was. So he has a chance to build a legacy in a different way. And I think

he really does value helping the next generation of athletes. And I think he's fully invested in this program. So, Kevin, I have thought that him bringing Brennan Marion in is his escape route if and when he needs to step aside. It's because Brandon looks like a guy who's on another guy. He's just sending up because he's Sacramento State's head coach. You mentioned he's one of the more bright offensive minds

across college football right now with that go-go offense. Does it feel like it could be a one or two-year plan? And if he needs to step aside, you just hand it off to Brennan Marion, excuse me? Yeah, I'm not naive. I've said the same thing on my show. Brendan Marion's contractors for two years. I think Dion signed a five-year extension last year. so that puts him at um he'd have like one or two years left on his deal anyway so i do think

there's a sort of coach and waiting sort of aspect to this right like the will must chant at texas and then i mean morgan scalia utah like there's a lot of this a lot of those similar vibes and i do think that's a great plan to have honestly right if you're dion sanders knowing you took this program wherever you took it i think it's in a better place than when he found it um regardless of the record and you don't think so jt no i said oh yeah like without a doubt like i was like i was like I was like, you can brought that up. Like, Drake was the one who brought up right off the start. He's done more than anyone else.

I was like, oh, yeah. I was ready to jump on you. I was ready to tackle. But he led this program in a better place and then solidifying a prominent head coach because that's sort of the fear for Colorado is whenever, like this year, people were like put him on the hot seat, put him on the hot seat. It's like, okay, who's better? Like, who are you going to go that's going to bring energy and turn this program around?

Who's better than Deontzian is right now? The answer is there's not really anyone, right? So having someone who could be that person ready and waiting, and invested in this program, I think, is a huge deal. Can we just tell Warren's app to not rip Texas high school football from now on on social media? I just did. I just recorded my episode for Wednesday with Brian Smith. I think that is the dumbest thing you could have done because of the optics, right?

I think we talked about how Dion Sanders beat cancer. We talked about his sons going to the NFL. People use everything in the book to negative recruit against Dion Sanders. And Warren Sapp just, like, served up on a silver platter, like, please use this. We said Texas high school football sucks. like everyone's like there's always this competition i get it i'm from california i say we are better than every single state ever that doesn't mean you tweet it as a coach of a college football program is this what happens when he can't take out the pylons i guess the worst part jake is they

offered the kid that he was tweeting about two days prior i know it's it's a bash like why why why why why in your right mind would you rip a base that because colorado for years has made hay in the lone star state in terms of bringing talent to boulder from texas you just absolutely crippled those abilities to do that with that one tweet. And Texas people can get mad at me, too, especially now that they know I'm from California. Their high school coaches are some of the most sensitive people on the planet. They hold a grudge like no other. I've played high school football at Texas.

I'm going to defend something. Joey McGuire, Joe McGuire's not going to like that. They hold grudges like nobody's business, though. If they feel a coach has disrespected them, they will purposely not allow recruits or not help recruits go to that school. True or false. I feel like we see that everywhere in the sport. I'm just going to say that. No one does it more than the state of Texas, though.

They are so. Borgman's got a really good point there. He does have a good point there. Hey, really quick. That may be the wrong word, but prideful or protective. How about that? Is Deion Sanders not going to be the next head coach at Florida State next year? Like when Mike Norville gets fired a year from now,

because it's not working. They won't go with the legacy hire, the guy who we just. He wanted it. He wanted it before Jackson State, and they didn't give it to him. And now he claims his alma mater is, I think, was a Talladega, varsity or Talladega College. I don't, like, he doesn't claim Florida State as much, so.

What about the chance to win? Like, I feel like people have short memories of some stuff. You all don't think so, no. Talladega. Yeah, I think it goes back to Borba's point. He knows his legacy is obviously what it is, and he wants to keep that intact. If he goes back to Florida State and fails, that's a big old stain on that legacy. So I think, I think that ship has passed.

The Florida State's a hard program to succeed at. Like, let's be real. But he's a goat of so many things, right? he's a goat for basketball for what he did with baseball in a lot of ways he's not of coaching right now if he could get to a place like florist state he'd have a chance to enter that if he could make a college football playoff which we haven't seen a prominent former player do right to be fair ryan day did win a national championship proving anyone in the world could probably find a way with the right roster to limp to a national championship as the number eight team in the country

by the look i made this we can wrap with this i made this point in locked on big 12 this week it has become March Madness is an invitational. We are inviting teams into March Madness to compete for national championship. College football is becoming that. The number eight team in the country won the national title last year. They wouldn't have sniffed it in the BCS, the 14th playoff. Is Ohio State the best team in the country? Maybe not, but they're the most, they're the best suited for a tournament style of play.

Which makes me a couple that Joel Clat ripped on March Madamy to do it. He hates Cinderella. Isn't Colorado kind of a Cinderella story? And he loved it when it was Colorado and they were doing good. So Joe Clatt, I don't know who peed in his Cheerios that morning. On the same day that Brady Quinn and Matt Liner come after ESPN for having to see the college ball playoff.

I'm like, ah, Fox the good guy. And I hate football. This just in, Joel Clat to ESPN whenever his contract's up. Is he laying the groundwork? He's like,

I will push your propaganda. If. if he dumps on ESPN but like we said i mean media time heals all wounds right i mean we see charles barclay's gone at ESPN for years right and we know that's the most fearless man in america though when it comes to stuff like that he does not care no he does not ladies down in san tonio no doubt he's maybe he's gross like they do he's good at it that's Kevin borber of locked on vuff shake hatch of locked on b y you cougars j t wister so locked on you straight hole with you i've locked on big 12 this has been it always will be if you hit subscribe we get to keep our jobs

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