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Episode Date: September 30, 2026

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All right. Is Oklahoma State actually just going to walk through the Big 12, like On 3 is predicting? Did we forget about BYU during the buy? Where the hell is Houston and West Virginia is still good? This is the Dose Grande Squad. You're talking ball with the Big 12 squad. From Oklahoma State to Utah, from Kansas State to BYU. From Houston to Texas Tech, it's the local experts of the Lockdown Podcast Network, bringing you scoop, breakdowns, and the most comprehensive free.

of the upcoming Big 12 weekend. Buckle up, it's the Big 12 squad, and we have a seat for you. Know her feelings and thin skin allowed. Squad up, you're part of the Big 12 squad. Happy Wednesday, everybody. Welcome to the Dose Grande Squad. Drake Toll with you from Locked on Big 12, America's number one Big 12 podcast. There's Mountaineer Paul talking all things West Virginia.

Jake Hatch of Locked on Cougars talking BYU, Parker-Ainsworth, Locked on Couges with Houston JT Worcester's show of Locked on Yudson, Dary and Gray, covers all things TCU, Horn, If you hit subscribe, we get to keep our job. Let's break down the biggest matchups from this past weekend in the Big 12. As always, you can catch our Friday squad previewing the next weekend of Big 12 football hosted by J.Catch. But gentlemen, what a weekend it was for the Oklahoma State Cowboys? Now, Cody Stovall will be at the squad show later this week, but has decided to gloat in silence.

As boisterous as he is. Are we sure the bender's over for him already? I think he's once on three posted that they're going to the college ball playoff. I haven't heard from Cody since. He's somewhere in Guadalajara, Zawatinejo, partying it up. So let's go to West Virginia, taking to Morgantown, where Oklahoma State toppled West Virginia. And Paul, I've heard a lot of other Big 12 shows,

even national shows that are writing off West Virginia altogether. I've heard West Virginia fans writing off West Virginia this week. Is that fair? No, not at all. I think it's a crazy thing to do. Three and one to start the season. You've already got a good win. I think it's definitely a tough loss.

Clearly, your defense has some issues against the team that good at passing the football. But no, I think that we do have issues, but I certainly, I just did a show. I think West Virginia can still start seven and one. I really do. I think you can beat Iowa State. I think you can beat Cincinnati. I think you can hang with Eric. Arizona, and I think TCU is a game you can win, right?

Should win. Should win at this point. You know, at the end of the day, like, it's on the runway. It is a tougher environment. But yeah, absolutely. I noticed Darym was in here, so I tried to make it a soft. The worst, the worst student team I've seen play in the last at least 20 years, went into D.C. and won a couple years ago. Like, it's not the environment is not that.

The principal. Wait, admit it. All right. My point is, is it's not over with West Virginia. No. All right, Darren, what you got? I have a bone to pick. I feel like Drake spoke about everybody's team on this show but mine.

The intro was everybody who's here. What did you want me to say, huh? Who's the next coach at TCU? This is the Doseantrante squad. That's how I could have started. Gary Patterson. You could have, man, the amount of people that would go crazy if GP came back. Drake toll is one of them.

Hey, you fired him for less. Let me remind you. DC you fired Gary Patterson for less. Like, they do it. There's no way, right?

There's no way. They can't bring him back. I don't think so. I think really funny. The track are going to bringing people back to their alma maters has not been great. I feel like that's a little different in this era, though. I think with the portal, you can't judge it quite the same.

But I, because obviously we're currently in that. So you're not, I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I feel like Rich Rod's the exception. Like realistically, Paul. Like you look at UCF, look what's happening with Scott Frost.

But you know what, though? What do you mean what's happening? They just beat TCU. I was going to say, hey, I said what I said. I'll say, I want to see UCF when they can actually keep a quarterback, right? Like, they're terrible luck over the last two years. But I do wonder how they feel. The whole Rich Rod, I feel like West Virginia starting to gain some steam.

Maybe you do want to bring it back, right? Maybe you run it back with Gary Patterson. I don't see it happening, but, you know, got a big game versus hatch this week. And that's about the best thing I can say about it. You know, today. It is a bit of a segue. It's not too foreign to the concept.

If there's anybody that we would not throw in that, you know, that name conversation, it's Mike Gundy. I mean, I think Oklahoma State is plenty happy here. I asked this question about, I guess, three or four weeks ago, and I asked it two months ago, and I've got to kind of mixed bag, are we scared of Oklahoma State? I'll start. Oh, hell yeah.

Yeah. I'm glad that. I'm glad that's not playing them. I agree with that. I don't know if I'm scared of them yet. I mean, the loss of Tulsa did just have. I don't know if scared, but I think they're a contender. Like, I think those two things can be true, right? Houston gets them at home, which we can correct the jokes later. But I, Houston, which gives Oklahoma State three points.

I knew they were coming. But what I was going to say is, is that game could easily be like 60 to 55 right now. Like, honestly, the game's going to be a lot of fun. Your defense stinks. I don't understand. You know, I think the truth is, is like the DPs aren't jelling and then there's no pass rush at it, unless you blitz. The DPs are, they're having trouble covering for long stretches, and then the pass rush

needs to blitz. And so then, like the leading sack guy right now is a safety. And so that's not great. I will say, like, they're one of the national top. and all your run metrics. And so like that's at least something. But I mean, yeah, yeah. It gave us many points at Georgia's Southern as they did to Texas Tech.

So there's just a lot about tech or a lot about, I don't know. Tom Hilton, Georgia, Clay Hilton, one of the hell. Clay Hilton. Yeah. Look, at least when you overlooked a team, you won, unlike the Oklahoma where they overlooked a team and that they got, you know, annihilated.

Yeah. You know, it could be worse. Yeah. And Clay Hilton also Houston Cougar alumni. That, you know, that's, that's a fun. one background there. He pulled out a few trick plays, a couple of two quarterback sets.

Two quarterbacks were great. JT knows all about those two quarterbacks. Two quarterbacks are fun. It was not. It wasn't what you utilized the other. We didn't use bird much to speak. Well, but one of his,

so one of theirs was interesting is like six, four, 250 pounds. And so it was like the fault, like it was, it was weird, like, it was interesting.

So we're talking like bell dozer style. The bell dozer on the field at the same time. On the field of the same time. And I think Jalenert just, died. I don't know if you'll have the game on, but we are, we are watching Monday night. Case Canem, other

Houston New Year alumni, Case Keenham. Yes. As many touchdown passes this season as Drake May. Take it a bless. Wow. Boy, have we derailed early? And like I was saying, Oklahoma State is just such a power in the Big 12 this year. Before we, before we jump into

the rest of the slate from this past weekend, genuinely, the Cowboys, I mean, on three has them going to the college ball playoff, which likely means you win the Big 12 championship. and probably go 11 and 1 in their book, the defense is better than I thought it would be. For a team that wants to get in shootouts, the defense is timely.

I'll put it like that. Like you see against Oregon, like, hey, we need you right now. The rest of the game, go have some fun. We need you right now. They can lock it against West Virginia.

They were timely. They weren't a great defense. It wasn't the first, oh my gosh, West Virginia ran wild early in that game. And then Oklahoma State cinched it up. I think their defense is just good enough to push them into possibly a college ball playoff spot.

I'm going to give Cody credit really quick on that. He called it. He told me earlier in the wake, this is going to be a game where West Virginia can run for 400 yards. But Drew Messonemakers 400 yards is going to be better than that. And he was totally right. That's exactly what happened. They're not the best quarterback, running back, and wide receiver in the league, probably. You can make a case.

Ooh, wow. Yeah, you make a case, case, yeah. I think running back's close. There's a lot of good backs in this conference. I also want to give Cody his plot. He's been saying this for a long time, Drake, about the defense thing. And they may not be elite in terms of shutting people down every game and throughout the game. But you mentioned the word timely.

He's been talking about that. I said this defense will come up with stops in moments when they need to. And you saw that against the Mountaineers. Yeah. I want a lot. I want a lot of light. There's a lot of restraint because if I were him and all of a sudden, teams just going to the national, to the college football playoffs,

they all of a sudden winning the Big 12. And I'm just sitting here like, y'all forgot who've been one of the most successful programs in the country. and doesn't look like they're slowing down. I got to appreciate the restraint because I would have been, don't forget about it. Well, in the running-me, comment, too, I would have, I would take it on LJ Martin.

But anyway, and that's not really an indictment on Oklahoma State. I want to say, that's really how good I think L.J. Martin is what is worth. But Darien, the point is, BYU hasn't won in Fort Worth in 20 years. So it's going to be. That makes it.

Which they played, you know, so often in the last 20 years. They're not a three-game losing streak down there at TCU to 2006. That's like when I tell J.T. that Utah has never been in Houston and it's 0.5. That's true. Hey, real quick on Oklahoma State, I think they do have enough in the trenches,

like y'all are saying, to win this league, which I thought that was a big question. Both sides of the ball. Trenches seem to be there enough to where that mean green big three is nasty. Yeah, yeah. All right, let's go into the AP poll. We got five teams in.

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BYU played a really late to do on Saturday. Yeah. It wasn't a complete 60 minutes. Zero points. Drake, we lose the right tackle and we drop a spot in the polls. I don't know what to say. Yeah, by the way, what's going on there? Starting tackle for BYU?

You off the depth chart? So Andrew Gentry, he's going to be out till late in the season. He had surgery on his ankle. He played through it during that Colorado State game. So credit to him for toughen it out. He had surgery in the last week and expectations, the earliest he returns is late November. So I just, I finally found the stat.

This quarterback's in the Big 12 thing. I would like to point out my man, kind of Wegman in the background here. I mean, pro football network clearly is the end-all in all things, college football, quarterback rankings.

Yeah. PFN. That's somehow worse than PFF. Yeah, I believe so. Texas would have liked to have a word about both those things. All I would say is that they're one of a handful here. When you look at,

I know the opponents and all that, but when you look at like QBR and they, like kind of Wegman is having, I mean, we'll see if he can replicate, some of the strip against tech, whatever, a truly special season so far. Correct. They've punted between the four games, they've punted like four times.

They don't have to punt a whole. They're really having a special season. And Messmaker and Wegman go together like in a couple weeks. And that'll be a really fun matchup. I'm not ready to die on the hill quite yet, but he's having a really special year. That's all I'm going to say. Did my caucus still break the grab? Yes, he did.

Yeah, he did still break the graph. That's so, that's so funny. Guys, I've got to bounce, but Darian, good luck on Saturday, buddy. I need it. I need it. I need it. Dangerous. I really thought that I was feeling solid about a TCU upset in that game because

obviously if you're Utah and other Big 12 contenders, you're looking for where can the likes of a BYU and a tech entering the season stumble. But man, Darian, I just, I mean, you all can't run the ball right now. What's going on? Yeah, all seriousness, all jokes aside, right? If TCU can't run the football, I don't think that there's a lot. going to be successful. I thought Jaden Craig had a solid day passing the ball outside of his two interceptions, but it's the bread and butter. And this team hasn't proven that they can win by passing

the football. And I think everybody knows you have to stop the run. So they're ultimately kind of, I don't say selling out for the run, but they understand that that's priority number one, two, and three. And they're treating it like that. And when I saw them struggle to run the football against Arkansas State, I kind of figured they would struggle to run the football versus UCF. And they ultimately did. And I think Jeremy Payne is a very talented running back. But if he keeps getting hit a yard, two yards, and a backfield consistently,

maybe getting to the line of scrimmage, there's not many running backs who can handle that, right? So I just think ultimately the front line is number one. And if they don't get it together, this team is not one that's going to upset anybody. Yeah, Darien, I mean, Sunny Dykes is supposed to be this genius, right? Like, you feel like you're in great hands with Sunny Dykes.

man, we can get the offense, clicking, oh, the guy with the last name, Bryles is gone. Like, I thought TCU, you know, I see TCU as a program as a shoe in to win eight games every year. There's never a world. They're TCU with their resources, the NIL, with the market, should be a bottom four team of the Big 12. They might end up there this year. That is completely unacceptable. Yeah, no, and this is, and I did the episode about this earlier this week, this team is exposed or this season is exposing who this team has been. This team has been a late season merchant. Like they have just eaten up teams at the

end of the year. But then you got Kansas State, Texas Tech, Utah, Arizona. You're not eating those teams up at the end of the year. So now you can't struggle in September and then say, we're going to have a great November, get you nine wins. I was so tired of this offseason. People keep telling me, well, you know, T's had back-to-back nine wins seasons. Yeah, that's what it looks like when you just look at the final record, but when you look at how these games were amassed, like, no shot to my guy. Well, actually, he took a shot earlier. So shots to park.

No, to be fair, that was again, like, Houston was like, oh, my God, that, like, blew this one. Houston missed four field goals that were inside of 30 are. I mean, like, and lost by a field goal. Like, it was not great. So, you know, they did three interceptions too, right? Like, like, they, you know, so it was one of those games where I feel like both teams. And, you know, shot yourself in the foot against a team that notoriously shoots

themselves in the foot, right? Like that's my biggest issue. But I was going to say to the Houston game, I wasn't a huge believer in Houston last year, but that's the best win the TCU's had in the last three years, right? Like, I think it's the only ranked win they've had. I'll take that. I'll take that. But so, Daryin, it begs the question then, especially with all the offseason stuff this year,

with the punching and the kicking and the battery. Right. All that stuff. Yeah, you know, and like, how long until Sunny Dikes is on the hot seat here? Like, does he have a history or does he have a future at TCU? Because, like, you're right, this is not a good year for TCU. He's played the national championship game. I'm just kidding.

And he has to stop saying that. Let me not say. He said it last year. It frustrated me so much. Yeah. Like, stop hitting me with that, man. And Dave Miranda won the Big 12 in a second year. Like, yeah, exactly.

But to the hot seat, he got an extension this all season. So I just don't know. Like, if I'm making decisions, he's on the hot seat, but if I'm making decisions... You wanted to put him on the hot seat last year, right, D? Exactly. It sounds like the AD might be on the hot seat as well as an independent extension. Yeah, like that, this is the thing.

I think Gordon Samis was a good hire. I understood if you were going to give him a year to prove it. But you gave him an extension and said, we believe in you so much. I just, I thought that that sign of faith was just too early. Like, you can like Sunny all you want. Right, like, there's nothing wrong with saying, I think Sunny Dikes can turn this program around. But when you put that extension along with it,

now you're saying it confidently, and I have a problem with the confidence. So I would have had them on a hot seat, but it doesn't look like they particularly do, but you keep losing games like this. At some point, they're going to fork over that cash and say, we're going to buy it out. Why not bring back in Garrett Riley?

Where's he out now? That's good. He got canned Clemson, so where to go? Yeah. He's at Missouri Quarterbacks coach, pretty sure. Wow. Wow.

Maybe. He was elite there, man. That was a perfect marriage for whatever reason. Bring back Max Duggan. We got all these new rules and stuff. Right. Here's the thing. You brought in Samus because you wanted to change.

T.C. wanted to be a bigger, more aggressive team. And they so far have not been more aggressive. But like that was the thought process. It takes more than you do it, you know. Just takes more of the year. I think that's the point. So you wanted to kind of get.

get away from spreading guys out. You wanted to get away from all of that and say, we're going to put more physical players on the field. We're going to get more weight on the field and we're just going to kind of bulldo. Like what Houston's done. Basically, it wanted to be, it would to be Houston.

I don't know. I feel like that was you are laughing. We did get to meet this in the offensive alignment. Yeah, I don't know what that. I did see some tweets this week saying Willie Fritz would look great and purple. You know, I think so too. Every time the sweets happen, people laugh. Well, I'm not laughing.

of no i mean anyway the idea of a guy that everyone tells me is too old to coach at houston going for another job that's just that's just funny to rebuild somewhere else after a he was too old to go to houston i was going to go rebuild somewhere else like he no this this is it man his son's a gm or maybe he's another petero oh i saw i saw someone that was like giving us some lincoln riley it's like what if we got Kirby smart. Could we get him off in Georgia to come take over the better USC job and like,

no. You know, we have gone this far without talking about the first time this season that Utah has shown cracks in the foundation. You're not going to, you're not escaping me. That's next on the Dos A Grande Squad. Today's show is brought you by Square.

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the armor in the second half. They absolutely did. I think there were things where, hey, you're looking at this offensive line, even though they arguably played their best game. There's still flaws, especially in the first, Power 4 road test. On the defensive side of the ball, there was a weakness in coverage at the linebacker spot. He's been good in the past, but he struggled that day.

Some penalties in the secondary. That third quarter did not go their way, but at the same time, outside of West Virginia's outside of Oklahoma State's win at West Virginia, this tied Houston for the largest road win by a big 12 team this week. So overall, you Utah did play really well.

Everyone's still working through stuff. Now the boy is. What a goalpost move. Outside of one game, this tied another game for largest road win of the week. Well, I'm just saying it's hard to win on the road. Why are you showing your phone?

This is Jake. He said to tell JT felt a disturbance in the rivalry force. We got to Hatch hate texting because he's big of the word. Can I throw a shaded Hatch real quick? I mean, what's the difference between Utah's second half versus BYU's first half against Arizona

in many ways, right? There was, we, Iowa, Arizona and Iowa State. I hate to say this. Okay. I, I, I physically feel pain saying this, but Arizona is a much better team than Iowa State, J.T.

I don't know about that. I don't know about that. Oh, no, no, no, JT, Iowa State is a lot better than I thought they would be. Way better than I thought there would be. There's still like a four-win team. They're a gritty, tough, fun, four or five-win team. But, yeah.

Okay. I've watched a lot of Jaylon and he's not going to win you in any football. We're talking Utah, BYU. One was at home. BYU was at home. Utah was on the road and a decent flight. That's all the other thing I think does bear mentioning in this conversation. It's hard, harder on the road.

We see two people. Hold on. Who brought up BYU in this conversation? It seems like the Utah guy may have brought up BYU. And he brought up BYU and Jake. Oh, okay. I don't want to dismiss the like road atmosphere at Ames. I like obviously Ames is a tough place. It would be no matter how many ones they get that season.

I think it's actually funnier, though, that Drake seemed to think to think that people thought he was going to let Utah off the hook. Who would have ever opened up this show thinking Greg is going to let Utah off the hook? That was never thought in anyone's mind. They can't escape me ever. By the way. By the am or whatever.

I've said this. I'm going to stick by this. Utah has the deepest skill position of anybody in the Big 12th. Like they've got their option five, option six, option seven is better than anybody else in the Big 12. Now, does West Virginia have the most versatile run game? Probably. Like, could we get to the end of the year?

say, hey, Houston ended up having the best quarterback. The dude had six touchdowns on Saturday. Could we get at the end of the year and say, hey, TCU tried their best? Yeah. Yeah, we could say that. We really could. But Utah, even to a Braden Pagan, right, who's turned up massive at wide receiver or a bray or a Benny or a, like, and then you get to wait Sean Parker, who's the most

dynamic back in the Big 12th. They use him in the passing game more than any back in the Big 12 conference. He is two players and one are running back in a wide receiver. It's really impressive what Utah has. I got, I'm buying Utah here. But you saw them play human and then still finish out the game against Iowa State I think Iowa State's better than we believe them to be

and you know what Utah wins I still think it's the top three team in the Big 12th I want to give some flowers back to you Yeah and I feel the same way I think this is still a top three team in this conference There's everything that a team's having to work through And I only brought up the road thing just to say We usually do see teams go on the road

And struggle in some capacity for the most part It's just hard to play flawless on the road We see that just in the large portion of college football we saw it with Darien right even Oklahoma State, we mentioned some of their defense struggles early. The offense turned it on late, but the defense did struggle too. I don't think this Utah team is a glaring weakness. I think, hey, by the end of the year, we could go, hey, this offensive line wasn't great.

It was good. It wasn't great. The O'Lines ahead of schedule still. Yeah, and the O'Lines ahead of schedule, right? And some of the pieces of, like, overall, this team looks really good right now, and I think you've got to be happy with all that they lost. And it feels like that Utah won the Kyle Whittingham divorce, if that's what we're going to call it. Because based on what's going on Michigan versus Utah, I think they're in a good spot. Jens, we've seen four weeks of football.

Can we name two teams in the Big 12 better than Utah right now? Based on how text looked, I don't think you can put them above for based on what we've seen based on your question, Drake. And I like Oklahoma State and Houston, but if we're evaluating the totality of a lot of silence. We know to Oklahoma State's definitely probably right there and they've got closer. You know, I'll give you a BYU. I think they do with like Oklahoma State and Houston,

the argument is actually very similar. And that like their lows have obviously been lower, but the highest have been there. it's about which one you get that day. And then I look, obviously the rivalry will play a way into the game, JT, and that could help you or hurt you. But the BYU thing is very real.

That team's still very, very good. And so there could be a weird day where there are three and there could be a weird day where there are none. I think that's just the kind of way that this thing shakes out with the top tier of teams here. And Drake, kind of the other side of this is this has been a weird football season in that we saw a little bit of this happening last year,

certainly. But in this era of there's, you know, How many people did know it? Like OSC brought in what, like 48 people in IL this past year. And like no team is having a relatively static roster year over year. And you're just in this situation where like you're having teams that are looking like world beaters in week three against very good competition. And then looking awful against worst competition the next week. Because you're in this situation where like no one knows each other.

Like it takes the jelling is not happening. It's taking a long time. Coaches are having to take longer and longer and like, figuring out what their team is good at. And it's leaving this weird situation. We're like, I can comfortably say, you know, Oklahoma State is a top 50% team in the league. Maybe top six even.

Where they land in that top six? I have no idea. Because week over week, quarter over quarter, half over half, it's so unstable right now. Arizona State's best day, they are top three in the big 12. I can't say it about everybody. We had the best defender in the country last week. I don't know if you say about TCU right now.

I don't know if no, it's fair. Hold on. Hold on, wait a minute. Anyone's wrong, but I will not sit here and take this. Okay, I will not take this playing down. TCU is much more talented than I think their record suggests. They just haven't been able to tap into all of those talents. He's right. The second highest paid in the NIL roster in the Big 12 per what was it, the athletic.

So, like, Darius right, they got talent. Someone asked A&M about that. That's what makes it frustrating. You know, you mentioned, weird things this season. There was a quarter of football I saw where one defense scored more than the other team's offense. You remember that one, Phil? That was bad.

You let the Aggies do that to you, Philip. I mean, at the time, we thought the Aggies were good. If I could pick one team for you to not let that happen to you with, it would be any, like that. That's the SEC mentality. Phil's like, hey, top 10 loss. Phil's got a top 10 loss. I know how the college football playoff committee works, man. There's a quality loss.

Bingo. That's true. Does anybody ever wonder if Oregon isn't as good, and that takes a little bit down for Oklahoma State? Their win this week was pretty big. I don't know. They did. I just throw it out there, right?

Because they stroking his Boise. Like, in the sense of comparing people's resumes, and I think early in the season, we have a lot of figuring out who teams really are. I don't think Oregon's the top four team. I don't think they're top four. They shouldn't be ranked over Oklahoma State.

They're still really good. No, they definitely should not. We just saw that. Why are they above Oklahoma State? I think that's crazy. It's weird. Oregon is a legacy name and Pol inertia is a thing, J.T. Is that what we say again, Phil?

Oregon's a legacy team and pole inertia is way too much of a thing. That's like A&M being ranked last week. What a joke. I mean, that looks awful. And they get ranked still? Missouri. Well, it's because they beat powerhouse Arizona State. I mean, there you go.

I mean, JT. In fairness to last week, their, what Kentucky's OC used to be like, you used to be A&M. So it was one of those situations where you got a guy that like knows everything that A&M does defensively was able to explode it. Now, the LSU game has no excuses whatsoever. That was awful. Really bad, really bad. I'm losing to Sam Levin. Yeah. Philip, super fast before we close the show, how healthy is Arizona State? That's probably my biggest question for the Sun Devils.

Right guard is a problem. We don't know if Rob Blahaw is back, but he's our second string right guard. Secondary is fine. Linebacker is fine. It really is our offensive line. That is the question. It's happy offense. and our strength of our interior offensive line was great and then everyone got hurt and that we don't have we don't have a tight end we don't have a tight end come our Anderson's dead and no one else could do anything people do tell me the offensive line's kind of important by the way

yeah it's five of the 11 players in the field it's half the half the off the offence of line our center's great left guard's great right guard was great before we got hurt oh didn't really have tackles herbert to the door something something offensive line I don't I'm got to have those got to have those he's Mountier Paul locked on West Virginia

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