Locked On Jayhawks - Daily Podcast On Kansas Jayhawks Football & Basketball - BIG 12 SQUAD - What Analysts Say About the Kansas Jayhawks After Week Eight

Episode Date: October 23, 2025

A lot is happening in the Big 12! Bear Bachmeier continues the BYU Cougars' winning streak over the Utah Utes in the Holy War. The Cincinnati Bearcats are looking like the next Arizona State. Can the ...Texas Tech Red Raiders survive without Behren Morton? All that and more on the Big 12 Squad. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqNQsWmyf0LCFUKr01QZ2LQ Locked On College Football Podcasthttps://lockedonpodcasts.com/podcasts/locked-on-college-football/ Locked On College Conferences, HBCU, Basketball & More🎧 https://linktr.ee/LockedOnCollege Follow on Twitter: https://twitter.com/smclaughlinCFBFollow the show on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LockedOn_CFB Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!  PelotonLet yourself run, lift, flex, and push forward. Explore the new Peloton Cross Training Tread+ today at https://www.onepeloton.com. RipplingGet Rippling FREE for 6 months. Terms and conditions apply. See site for details: https://app.rippling.com/legal/promoterms PrizePicksDownload the PrizePicks app today and use code LOCKEDONNFL to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup.Click Here: https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/LOCKEDONNFL GametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONNFL for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Download Gametime today. What time is it? Gametime. FanDuelRight now, new customers can bet just FIVE dollars and if your bet wins—you’ll get THREE HUNDRED dollars in bonus bets to use across the app. FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN)  #CollegeFootball

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Starting point is 00:00:00 There's a bear on the loose, and it's coming for everybody in the Big 12. We're talking about it on the Big 12 squad. You're talking ball with the Big 12 squad. From Oklahoma State to Utah, from Kansas State to BYU. From Houston to Texas Tech, it's the local experts of the locked-on podcast network, bringing you scoops, breakdowns, and the most comprehensive preview of the upcoming Big 12 weekend. Buckle up, it's the Big 12 squad, and we have a seat for you. Know her feelings and thin skin allowed.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Squad up, you're part of the Big 12 Squad. Welcome into the Big 12 Squad, everybody. I'm Jake Hatch, host of Locked-on Cougars covering all things B.Y. You filling in for our good friend Drake Toll as the host of this here program. Right next to me, digitally, is Dary and Gray host of Locked on TCU. Next to him, Cody Stovall, Locked on Oklahoma State. We got J.T. Wisterill of some program called Locked on Utes, who was on a three-game losing streak to the haunted BYU Cougars.
Starting point is 00:01:00 A low hit, Mountaineer Paul from Locked on West Virginia, Kevin Borba, locked on buffs who are going to beat Utah this weekend, and Nick Marevettes from Lockdown Cyclones. All right, everybody. The BYU Cougars have just essentially ended in St.L.L.L.L.A.C.
Starting point is 00:01:17 And they have a three-game win streak over there, right? So, I'm scared is everybody a Bear Bachmeyer right now. You got to be scared of him. He doesn't make mistakes. I think every team just threw two picks before against West Virginia. I know, but they're not like, I don't know, they haven't cost BYU yet. That's true. Any of these games, he hasn't made a freshman mistake that takes him out of the game,
Starting point is 00:01:37 and that's sort of been the whole thing. And he's also the rest of the runner that is extremely hard to tackle. So got to be a little scared of him. I don't know what was the worst part of the past couple of days, the fact that we lost to BYU for a third time, the fact that Bear Bachmeyer tore us up for some big plays, or the fact that because of technical difficulties, I had to listen to that bear pun that Jake said in the open four different
Starting point is 00:01:56 times i don't know what was the worst one it's all for you j t buddy so here's the thing uh we're looking at a little bit of a jumble at the top of the big 12 right now because Cincinnati and b yu if you had that on your scorecard kind of the halfway mark of the big 12 race is them leading the conference you may you know approach the window now and cash in on that how surprised is everybody with how things are panning out in the conference or are we all kind of expecting this to be par for the course well i mean there's what 11 teams that are within two games that's that's normal for the big 12 who's at the actual top isn't as surprising to me but i'm not shocked that going into you know halfway of conference play it's kind of still anybody's game i didn't think either of the two teams would be at the top i got to
Starting point is 00:02:41 be honest like i'll say i was wrong right away i think a lot of us thought that scottterfield was this going to be his last year with cincinnati we didn't believe in sorsby and a lot of things they had going on and i'll say this for b yu i looked at a true freshman quarterback the way they won last year and i thought they would regress and give the cougars all the credit in the world they continue to find ways to win these narrow games. And that's a skill for a team like Utah that has lost a lot of these last two years, too. So give those two programs a lot of credit. I am stunned that Tech lost.
Starting point is 00:03:05 I didn't think Tech was going to lose a big 12 game. I thought they looked back good the few games before. So that was the biggest shocker the week, honestly, for me. The question I've got for you, J.T, is Devin Dan Pierce are going to be top 10 in the Heisman trophy way? You know what? If he's held, no, he ain't anywhere close to the top 10 of the highs of that. I don't know if that's one of the worst takes I've had because I've talked about my other take
Starting point is 00:03:24 with the band in the stands last week before, but he's not going to be there. We'll get to Mr. 40% in the minute here. Hey, Mr. Jack, Pat, I would like to take at least a baby lap while I poop on Utah. Since my Cowboys aren't winning any football games, I did mention in the very beginning of the season that I thought BYU would be pretty good because last time I checked, you had like 85% of your returning roster coming back, and you weren't going to have the complacency issues that we saw at Oklahoma State this previous season, both seasons now with the staff. essentially.
Starting point is 00:03:56 So I did think BYU was going to be pretty good. That was with Jake Retzlap. So the fact that you're able to do it with Bear Bachmar is crazy. I never thought that
Starting point is 00:04:04 there would ever come a day where I'd be a fan of a dude named Bear, but here we are. And he happens to be a BYU Coug. I love it, man. Oh, yeah,
Starting point is 00:04:13 that's because Utah sucks something fierce. That's why. I still remember when Cody thought he was like, why are people higher on Utah than Oklahoma State coming into the year? That was my favorite Cody comment.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Yeah, well, Haas Haney is still better and Devin Damp here, okay? And we're going to, we're going to see it again soon enough. Cody and I actually had to do a video today on who had the worst team in the league. We did that. And our second segment was, who's there. consensus on this, though. Well, we don't know if we, we couldn't come to one, but here's how we did. We kind of did because of we're playing a little bit better and Westwood is playing a little bit worse. As a year goes on, it would say it would seem so. But our second segment was who's
Starting point is 00:04:54 fourth string quarterback is better or worse and then we had to finish it off with can basketball please save us that's right can basketball please save us because we both won secret scrimmages that's where our football teams are right now we're hanging on to secret scrimmage results we we didn't have a secret scrimmage don't you throw that same thing don't throw us under that bus it is the same thing what used to be your scrimages because trust me b yu is in nebraska on saturday morning playing hoops so you good good time what happened in that one it was secret, so I didn't see the result of that one. Oh, if you had to watch it on Big 10 plus, they ended up losing.
Starting point is 00:05:29 No, I knew. Oh, I knew. I knew. I got to ask also, Darien. We've got the cigar going here. What's what's going on, my man? Oh, there we go. I'm loving your hosting duties, Hatch.
Starting point is 00:05:40 I must admit, but Drake ran. All right? I have to tell the people what happened. Drake understood that T.C. knocked off Baylor. This wasn't the time for him to come in. I went and bought my cigar. No one told me ahead of time.
Starting point is 00:05:54 And don't ask me to light it because we follow rules at TCU, and I would have to report violations. I know Bayla's not necessarily familiar with that, but that being said, three cigar. And, you know, everybody can't partake, but I can't. The revivalry belongs in Fort Worth. There we go. So what you're saying is there's a bear in the Big 12, everybody's scared of, but it's not in Waco. No, it's not in Waco.
Starting point is 00:06:22 It's not in Waco. It's not in Fort Worth. It's not even in Texas. If a bear poops in Waco, does it make a sounder? There we go. I don't know. I think everybody tries to evacuate. People around here, Paul, keeping a PG with the poops versus the other word.
Starting point is 00:06:37 We all know that if a bear poops in the stadium, nobody is alive to see it because there's nobody ever in their stadium. Poop's a funny word, though, you know what I mean? If you're going to go comedic route, poop's kind of a funny word, too. Hey, JT and the Utes are very used to, you know, feces ending up on certain. Hatch, I got a replace. I think you were talking about with D.F. You switch me and Paul, and I take my hat all so the whole row can be hats,
Starting point is 00:07:01 and then I'll be on the bottom. It will be the hatless crew. I thought I tried to fit in, but now I just feel like I'm leaving. There we go. There we go. Get that out of here, guys. Because J.T. knows all about. There's this famous thing called the Concourse Crapper at Rice Eccles.
Starting point is 00:07:14 JT, you want to fill us in on that? Yeah, Paul. I'll let you fill the people in on that. I thought you were going to talk about when Tyler Huntley called y'all do-do a couple years ago, which looking back on it, since we called y'all dude, we're oh, and three. That's the curse. The curse of you-so-poo-poo-poo is upon you.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Oh, poo-poo. That was it. You're right. Yeah, so obviously, Tyler Huntley now with the Baltimore Ravens, the last time Utah beat BYU afterwards, he used the famous quote, they so poopoo, we never going to lose to them again. Y'all can tweet that. That's his, that was the quote he used. But did he ever lose to them again?
Starting point is 00:07:47 No, he did not. Well, he never lied, kind of. Okay, this time I'm not poo-pooing on Utah, but real question, isn't this why Utah never wanted BYU in the same conference because they thought that if BYU had more access, they would be instantaneously a better fit to potentially beat Utah? Depends on who you ask about. I was asking J.T. Okay. Jake, I'm curiously here's thoughts on that. Well, here's the thing, BYU, I know of at least two or three people because I came up in sports media during the independent era.
Starting point is 00:08:22 era for BYU. So essentially Utah, they had the upper hand. There's no doubt about it as members of the Pact 12. But I had at least two or three people that are well-known figures within BYU who told me in no uncertain terms the day they thought BYU got back on level terms with Utah, the results would speak for themselves. And I think you can see that evident right now. Right now, it's absolutely the case. I had never heard that about them not wanting BYU in the same one. I'm thrilled that they are because I'm glad we get another chance at them next year. Like I couldn't imagine having to sit lose and then have to wait like three years to play up again. That's the only thing that gives me hope is the fact that we can try to avenge this next year
Starting point is 00:08:56 because as Jake said on his show, when even I think you said one of the BYU you coaches said, Jake, like now it is officially a streak. And that's painful for Utah to have to realize. I'm calling poo on that. You're telling me you cover Utah and you never heard anybody say that they didn't want BYU in the same conference. That's why they didn't want BYU in the Pac-12. I want to go to the Big Ten.
Starting point is 00:09:16 If I asked myself the same question, what I want Marshall to go? P4. No, I wouldn't want them to go P4, to be honest. I mean, if you're asking me, I like them down there, and I like saying we're 12 and Oguns. And if they went P4, I don't know, man, you know, you know, you know. I think everybody likes to feel like they're better than they're like in-state G5 rival. Yeah. You got to do a nice 12-year run amidst that nine-game win streak they had. They were loving the fact they held the Cougars down. There's no doubt about that.
Starting point is 00:09:49 I'd like to think that we're better than Tulsa, but. Is there a way we could find out? All right. On that front, JT already kind of talked about it, the Cincinnati Bearcats. They have kind of been a surprise story along with BYU the season. Are they the next Arizona State? We're going to get into that next as the Big 12 squad rolls on right here on the Lockdown Podcast Network. Today's show is brought to you by our friends over at Quo, formerly known as open phone.
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Starting point is 00:11:44 Visit Fanduel.com to download the Fanduel. today and get started. That's Fanduil.com with our friends over at Fandul. Thank you once again for making Locked-on Big 12, your first listen of the day, everybody. I'm filling in for Drake Toll. I'm Jake Hatch, host of Locked-on Cougars. All right, everybody, our good friend Jeff Carr is not here to obviously pump up the Cincinnati Bearcats, but are they the next Arizona state? Are they going to come out of seemingly nowhere, pick near the bottom, if not the bottom, and win this conference? Guys, they're good.
Starting point is 00:12:17 They're good. Like I just told you, we played an adequate football game against them. We had 377 yards of offense. We had 163 yards rushing on the ground. We look like a semblance of a football team, but they have a ton of NFL players or potential. That tied in it, that tight end, he's an NFL draft pick all day every day. Brennan Soresby's going to get drafted. They've got a couple offensive linemen that are problematic.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Their defensive line, Dante Corleone is going to be a draft pick. Best name in the league, Dante Corleone, man. Is good. That's what I'm saying. That's why there's excitement in Boone Pickens because we could see we're playing pretty decent football. We could also see that by the end of the fourth quarter, they were just so much physically better than we were. And it reminded me of Arizona State last year when Cam Scadaboo said, I'm on a mission against Oklahoma State. And he had like 389 all-purpose yards against us. That's what Cincinnati did. It was a close ball game, closer than the score is indicative of. but their talent at the end of the game was just way too much.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Wait, they are that good. I would hopper brakes on Arizona State level good. I mean, they're scared. Maybe not quite that good, but the only team they played that's worth of damage, Kansas, really. And they lost it in Nebraska, right? Well, they played Iowa State. Yeah, Nick's down there.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Damn, Paul. Well, I don't have every game memorized. I forgot. I'm sorry, Nick. I'm sorry, Nick. You got Nick is here, everybody. So go ahead, Nick. And to Cody's point, like, they are very good, but Iowa State did not play their best game against them.
Starting point is 00:13:52 My biggest thing with them right now is the penalties. That was kind of the story of the Iowa State game against them was that was what got Iowa State back in that game. So if they can just stay clean, I think they're very talented. They're very good. But penalties can quickly dismantle a team in just any game. J.T. knows all about that. That's what. Well played.
Starting point is 00:14:13 No, and I'm really quick. I'm with, I'm with Mountaineer Paul. Like, I think they're a really good team. I just, I'm not ready to call them like the team in this conference, especially because I know they lost guys. I still think Tech is the class of the Big 12th. They lost the backup quarterback. Granted a backup quarterback that beat Utah,
Starting point is 00:14:26 but that D-Line, that team is still scary. It took ASU's best shot to get them. I still think Tech is going to win this league. So therefore, I'm not going to call Cincinnati the next ASU if I don't think they're going to win it. But I do think that game against BYU, Cincinnati, BYU. That's a conference title game, elimination game, just like the ASU,
Starting point is 00:14:43 BYU game was last year. That's what I was going to say is looking at the rest of their schedule, they really only play BYU and TCU. They've got Gimmies against Baylor, Utah, and Arizona. Wait a minute. Hey, how dare you sure? How dare you? Wait a minute. I defended you a second. It's a favorable schedule. I mean, they get BYU at home. They get. Sorry, sorry. No, it's okay. I was just saying they get BYU at home. So like their toughest game left on their schedule is at home. And I think they kind of have a lot of momentum. I'm curious what you guys think, not of Cincinnati, but of Houston. I do, I don't necessarily think Houston's super good, but who do they have left besides Arizona State?
Starting point is 00:15:21 Yeah. Like, is the schedule literally just going to give them the Big 12 championship, or at least a contention? Guys, we got to give Parker credit. He did mention that. One of the biggest reasons why Parker said they could win seven plus games was the schedule. That's what I was. He's going to be talking about football in December. He doesn't be talking about basketball.
Starting point is 00:15:40 I know. I didn't sleep on TCU, Darren. But I'm just saying. You got West Virginia, UCF, and Baylor? He got Shaded twice. He was like, Cincinnati doesn't play anyone. Like everyone that T.C. He's like, we don't play anyone.
Starting point is 00:15:55 I'm like, hold on, guys. I'm trying to go through the schedules there. So I get to the schedule. Y'all moved on. I say, wait a minute. Wait a minute, okay. Let's respect on Josh Hoover's name, right? Put some respect on the name.
Starting point is 00:16:07 You know what I think is interesting. I'll say this. I do think BYU gets TCU. I'm not, I'm not, no, I think BYU does get TCU, especially with that game being in BYU, but it'll be interesting. You say that it's a conference title elimination game. Well, what do we think happens with BYU? Let's say that they only lose the Cincinnati. Then they're looking at one loss.
Starting point is 00:16:30 And I know we could get into a whole bunch of tiebreakers, but they do have that tiebreaker over tech, right? I think if I'm not mistaken. So BYU plays tech in three weeks. not tech they have it over lost the game no i don't yeah i don't remember the utah one but maybe that didn't happen my bad arizona state has that's who i was thinking about no but to your point darian that's the thing b yu they talked all off season about how close they were a season ago and they lost out due tiebreakers because of the losses that they absorbed after the utah game and that's the interesting point about this j t is we we talk often
Starting point is 00:17:05 about the rivalry game and the impact it has on both these programs well b yu's got to go to uh i with State go to AIMS this week. And me and Nick, obviously, we'll be talking about that. Well, Utah hosts Colorado. Guess what happened last year the week after BYU and Utah played? They played Colorado. So this is going to be interesting to see how these two programs absorb the punches that they absorbed in this rivalry series and see if it affects the race because it very well could. But I think both programs learned a hard lesson a season ago.
Starting point is 00:17:34 The rivalry let down is legit, especially the emotions and the highs and how much goes into the Utah, BYU rivalry. so I do think I'm curious to see how they'll do Utah's a massive favorite on Fandu right now 13 and half over a bus team especially even with the Utah quarterback questions I find that very interesting really quick on the Houston thing what were you saying hatch go it Caden Salters ready to rock and roll yeah he might be he might be in a second but I just want to say on the Houston really quick I feel the same way someone else much I think they're a really good team but their resume is just not impressive yet so I'm waiting to beat that team where it's like oh wait they've arrived right now it's it's almost been like you scheduled a lot of them
Starting point is 00:18:09 because I still just don't think Arizona's very good. I know Arizona's gotten some wins on the year, but it's just hasn't been to get a competition. They're much improved. Much improved. And really quick, Jake, I want to ask you this, is this BYU team? You keep finding ways to win. Why can this BYU team be different than last year's team? Because you kept finding ways to win last year, but you stumbled in key spots.
Starting point is 00:18:27 I think it's the fact that they stumbled last year and they realized they may have overstep the mark, I guess it's probably the term to use because Kansas last year, they came rolling into Pro Bowl. And Kansas was rolling at that time last year, admittedly, but I think BYU had their eye on Arizona State the week after that and literally just looked beyond the mark and that cost them. They stumbled. That's the whole thing about this year. You asked them to look ahead at any point. I'm telling you, coaches, players, anybody else I've talked to, they are very quick to say, no, no, no, we're focused on the here and now because they know how close they were.
Starting point is 00:18:58 The crazy thing is last year, had BYU beaten Kansas and lost to Houston in the regular season finale, they still would have been in Arlington. It all came down to strength of record. Jake, you said it, and you said it in the very, you said it in the very beginning, Hatch. It's because y'all got a bear and he be coming. That's the difference. Cody's been waiting all episodes to get that off. He's been waiting for him.
Starting point is 00:19:23 He said, you know what? It's not happening. I'm just going to say it. He forced it out then they. Well, I thought that that would be a good segue for Jake to go to the next ad. But evidently it is. Before we do, though, I just want to say, Dante Corleone is not the best name on the Cincinnati team.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Matthew McDoom is the best name. Hey, if you're Godfather Van though, Dante Corleone, man, it's just, it goes right. Yes. Yes. Better than Matthew McDume? No way. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:20:54 a college football. And it seems like there's a question out there that what is Texas Tech with him versus without him? J-T knows all about without him because Will Hammond just went, you know, ham. never misses a chance no that's why it's no different than when drake and him are hosting it's a locked-on kooks host either way hey play play the hits you're all in that play the hit that's right as you this past week uh found a way against seemingly in i felt like when tech scored against the as you to take that lead it felt like all right they they're going to find a way through and the as u's credit sam levitt much like baron
Starting point is 00:21:32 Morton seems to kind of be the heart and soul of ASU, drives them right down the field, they score a touchdown. And it throws a wrench in the big 12 race. But JT, to your point, I don't think any of us are counting tech about them rebounding and getting right back into the race here. You had quite the tease causing them frauds going to the Drake Toll school of headlines there. My goodness. Well, but the question is, if Barron Morton is out any longer, are they fraudulent without him
Starting point is 00:21:55 at the helm? I guess it depends on how good you think ASU is. I still think they're a top five team in this league. I just think they didn't have their quarterback in Salt Lake sitting. it was a bad recipe that day. I have a ton to say, but I want everybody else speak first. I talk way too damn much. I think J.T. has a good point.
Starting point is 00:22:11 I think that honestly, I do feel like people have just kind of disregarded Arizona State at times or cut them out of the conversation as if they didn't belong there. I think they've had some losses that were a little tough to swallow. Like they lost big to Utah, but like J.T. mentioned, they didn't have their starting quarterback. They lost to Mississippi State. to be late in the beginning of the year. But I think one thing we've seen is Arizona State is a squad. They shouldn't be counted out in any game.
Starting point is 00:22:39 And I think that same attitude should be taken towards the season, especially when you look at some of the guys that they have or some of the teams they have on the schedule. They got Houston. So we're talking about Houston. They can get them out of here, which is a fellow one lost team. They can take out in Iowa State, West Virginia, Colorado, Arizona. You went out and you have games like Cincinnati versus BYU.
Starting point is 00:23:01 or BYU versus Tech. I think that this could look a lot different when we get to the end of the season and we're comparing schedules and what paths other people have to go through. The idea of what I believe that Arizona State will have to go through compared to some of their peers at the top of the conference is different, and those things matter. So I'm not ready to count them out as far as resume or upcoming schedule or just quality a team.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Shouldn't they be downgraded for this? Come on. That's the one thing me and Jake can agree on. It just looks like temple two times. It's exactly. You're right, Gary. It looks like temple. You just,
Starting point is 00:23:37 yeah, like that alone should downgrade text. It looks like somebody who can't even spell the word temple design that thing. It looks like I made that thing up. They took the devils out of it, right? That's what they did. And that's the other thing. They lost to the devils the next one.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Is there any connection? Well, that's my headline. No devil, no devil dub. But they're also not allowing them to throw tortillas, boys. So, like, what is there? Well, I thought the rules could change, but traditions wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:24:08 That's what I thought was happening. Kirby Hokuts saying that you're going to have your ticket privileges. It's different when you get fined. When they start finding it along the pockets affected. Rich Rodriguez said he would pay the fun in advance. Okay, maybe we could just, like, hold our tortillas and wave them. Oklahoma State fans are going to show up with tortillas stuffed in wonderful places just for this ball game. when we need a penalty
Starting point is 00:24:31 there might be a tortilla flying literally a free 15 yards for any away fan I thought the same thing yeah yeah no it's I guarantee there'll be BYUu fans if this is going to hold when they go down to Lovick in a few weeks time they'll sneak a tortilla or two in and be tossing it when they need it can't be able to sneak pocketin out and then like
Starting point is 00:24:50 penalize them like like oh this Texas tech fan sucks and you're just like constantly thrown flour and tortillas out there like is that the best Is that the best way to defend it? Is that the old Eddie Guerrero move where you, where you hit yourself and like act like you got hit fall down? That's what you have to do. That's the equivalent of it.
Starting point is 00:25:09 If there's anywhere in the country that would bring back tar and feathering, it might be Lubbock, Texas. So don't give them too many good ideas. Don't give them too many good ideas. What a fog-horn leghorn take that was. I said, I said. We got tart and feathering on the show today. This is, wow.
Starting point is 00:25:32 I was watching a George Washington documentary earlier. I do apologize. Hey, he had wooden teeth, by the way, just in case you were curious. Hey, Nick, are you all getting? No, it's real. Well, they're horse. Yeah. Nick, are you all making up, you know, I need to be why you to lose at some point here
Starting point is 00:25:50 along the way. If you don't want to have a chance to get in. Can you all get an upset bid on the road for me? I think actually, I think so. Iowa State's favored right now. I was actually curious if we'd get around to this. Jake, BYU's been an old dog all season, boys, and they're seven and they have been. They have been. No, and I'm curious, this is genuine question. I saw this on Twitter, so I thought I'd come straight to the horse's mouth. Is it possible that BYU's betting lines are skewed because
Starting point is 00:26:12 BYU fans don't bet very much? Like, is that a reason? 110%. That's so interesting. Are they allowed to, or is that just like, here's the thing. Honor code. Yeah. It's not an honor code violation. To be clear, members of the faith can wager if they want to it's just been strongly encouraged not to by church leadership for many many years and i'm telling you the vast vast majority of members of the church of jesus christ of latter day saints they do not wager on sport they don't gamble there's a famous quote from a lavelle edwards back in the day that lDS fans will go to las vegas with a twenty dollar bill and well and a copy of the ten commandments and won't break either one Do they do LDS, do they do where they have to get back to the church, tithing and stuff? Yeah, 10% of their income is contributed back to the church. And a lot of that, a lot of that, quote unquote, disposable income is that it goes back to the church versus where they've gone to sports wagering and the like. Makes sense.
Starting point is 00:27:15 So if they hit big, they have to share it anyway, right? Well, yeah, exactly. That's the thing about this. If you do decide, and trust me, I've got some buddies who are members of the faith that they, They place bets, and they contribute 10% of their winnings right back to the church. There we go. Hey, Paul, I want to hear your thoughts before I unload on Texas Tech because they ain't got a bear and they don't be coming. They do have an LDS quarterback, though.
Starting point is 00:27:40 All right, fair play, fair play. You want to hear my thoughts on what exactly? He didn't have anywhere to go with that. I don't know. They just like say something. One time, I told you guys the story about my dad. when we were fishing at the pier and he had to reach into the fish of the best got to say that too did i tell you guys about this yeah 100% yes he's go i thought i know i told you before
Starting point is 00:28:05 darian hadn't heard it there's new we were fishing in tampa florida and my dad has a prosthetic arm and so he liked to play jokes on people it was flesh covered of course and he would wear long sleeves uh as so to hide it because people would ask him random questions and he would lie and say an alligator bit it off or a bear bit at all uh but he hooked into a hammerhead shark that was three feet long it was like a younger one and my dad just always reaches in and pulls the hook out just what he does and so my dad had really good comedic timing with this kind of thing and i'm a kid i'll never forget it uh as he reached down to this hammerhead's mouth it's chomping his arm away um this old lady is looking
Starting point is 00:28:52 looking down to him with this horrific face. And so with great committee timing, he popped that thing out and went, ah, ah, oh, he didn't give us the physical representation last time, Darren. He didn't give us the often way last time. And so that's how Mel Gibson came up with the Passion of Christ. Out of bad.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Speaking of the Passion of the Christ, Texas Tech, I hope, is a fraud. Because when did they turn into Utah fans? Last week is the first time in my life that I saw Texas Tech fans talking about how, now I know how Utah feels. This is a trash conference. We're holding this conference up. Without Texas Tech,
Starting point is 00:29:36 this conference would be terrible. When did this happen? And they saw the discourse of Arizona State after all this week of them trashing the Big 12th. Dude, I honestly like have Texas fans. been hiding in the minds with Utah fans waiting to break out and talk a bunch of crap and finally had their opportunity just to get double poked in the rear end by a devil don't devil born that is quite that's quite to take there Cody I will say this how much more I think one of the reason tech is so high right is how much more are they spending on their roster do you
Starting point is 00:30:11 think than Oklahoma State is well they spent 28 and we spent like almost 14 yeah so okay million that's top three transport class I think that's why they feel like math class conference here we go Well, I mean, Arizona State probably spent, what, 15, 16-ish, maybe, right, likely? I'm pretty sure Iowa State spent like five or six. Oh, West Virginia spent 10, by the way, kept five that we're going to spend this fiscal year, but not this portal year, if that makes any sense. So you can actually roll it over as long as you spend it within the same fiscal year,
Starting point is 00:30:46 I've found out this week. So West Virginia will be spending 20 million next year on football before they go. above the cap in aisle. So that's going to be good. What does it, Jake? J.T. can only dream of that much up in Salt Lake City. Oh, unfortunately that. And I wish I might, my head coach might actually be worth the math than me.
Starting point is 00:31:06 So that's somehow possible based on his analytics takes. I'm just saying something. Stick with the analytics, baby. They don't go wrong. Don't know. All right. Well, that's going to do it for this week's edition of the Lockdown Big 12 squad for the Hat row up here. Jake Hatch host of Lockdown Cougars.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Got Mount here, Paul from Lock. on West Virginia, Cody Stovall, locked in Oklahoma State, who's still looking for a head coach, but playing good ball all the same. J.T. Wistersoe, who's head coach, may or may not retire. Who knows, if the analytics say yes or no, we'll figure it out. Kevin Borba locked on buffs, Darian Gray from Locked on TCU and new guy Nick, Nick Maravitz, who is my, you know, enemy this week because BW Cyclones, who are two band bases that are impossible to hate, all right? Don't, don't try to play Kate us, hatch. It's true. It's going to be a love fan. We'll see how it all goes. We'll be back next week. Make sure you subscribe to all of our shows.
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