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Episode Date: November 6, 2025

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Somehow, some way. The college football playoff committee liked the Big 12. Utah headed to the chip. This is the Big 12 squad. Don't say Garade squad, Big 12 squad. One of the two, whatever you want to call it. You're talking ball with the Big 12 squad. From Oklahoma State to Utah, from Kansas State to BYU.

From Houston to Texas Tech, it's the local experts of the Lockdown Podcast Network, bringing you scoops, breakdowns, and the most comprehensive preview of the upcoming Big 12 weekend. Buckle up. It's the Big 12 squad and we have a seat for you. No hurt feelings and thin skin allowed. Squat up. You're part of the Big 12 squad. Abby Thursday evening, everybody, welcome to the Big 12 squad. I'm Drake Toll from America's number one Big 12 podcast, Locked on Big 12. Thank you for making this show your first listen every single day. And if you're not, you're probably making the first listen every single day. This guy, because he's funny and cute. Cody Stoneball locked on Oklahoma State. This guy can't seem to win a football game.

Kevin Borbo loves. He actually has nothing to do with whether or not the team wins, but he joins the big squad today. Parker Ainsworth, seems to have that same problem as well here recently of locked on Cougars, all things used him. Dary and Gray, TCU has announced the college football playoff. So I'm being told right now he's the mouth of the South. He joins the Big 12 squad. And less we forget, a man with 12 hairs. No, 13 hairs. In honor of the 13th ranking in the country, J.T. Westerill of Locked on Utes. Here's where we will start. If you didn't subscribe, we keep our jobs.

JT. Utah at 13. So if Texas Tech or BYU lose this weekend, they cannot move past 13, meaning the Big 12 conference next week will have three teams in the top 13. And Texas plays Georgia coming up. Oklahoma plays Alabama coming up. We're getting three in the college football playoff. Feels that way right now.

This is a massive win for the big ball. Can you be a little more excited, please? Can you be a little more excited? I just said it's a massive win for the Big 12. I'm ecstatic right now. I mean, for the committee to actually put Utah over Virginia, what a win, right? Like actually being willing to say, hey, this Virginia team barely squeezed by a terrible North Carolina team that a TCU from this conference absolutely demolished earlier this year.

The ACC has not been impressive. I absolutely feel like Utah deserves to be in the top 15. And I'm glad the Big 12 got the representation they deserved with two teams in the top 10. And I respect the fact that the committee did not go by what the AP poll did. Big 12 fans should be ecstatic right now. even those of you who are a little lukewarm on Utah. I would say it's also great for the, you mentioned the ACC thing.

The Georgia Tech fell that far, I think, is also important to the big 12 conversations because, you know, they're just like Houston was last week, and they just play a halfway normal football game. They're probably undefeated Georgia Tech would be. And I think this tells us a lot about what they think of Georgia Tech's resume, even with just one loss. Who is Darth Vader breathing into the microphone?

I've got getting some serious Star Wars effects here. Is that Chris Level somewhere off camera? Is it the surprise? Before you wreck yourself. I like that point though that you made about Georgia Tech. Them being below Louisville and below Virginia shows that

if you lose recently and lose to a bad team, we're going to punish you. It also makes me a little confused why Texas with a bad loss to Florida still gets to be above Utah. The most baffling of the top 12 and frankly i feel like texas is going to texas it at some point right they they almost

gave it up against vanderbilt they they lost a couple bad teams in four and stuff like that like do you mention georgia but i think they could just lose any given week and they also play an a and m to end the season right so i think the thing with texas though is like they have the win over vanderbill in oklahoma i think the bigger question about the big 12 is how do we get three teams in because BYU and Texas Tech play this week. I don't know if you guys have heard college game days going there. And that's kind of could be an elimination game for Texas Tech. Do we not think that?

I don't think we kind of what we saw from Utah. Again, they would not rank Texas Tech below Utah. So Tech at the lowest would be 12th, which is a spot away from the college ball playoff. I think you need Notre Dame to lose. I think that's a great. Probably the way 12th isn't good though, because like Texas was 12th. and they're the first team out.

Correct, but Texas and Oklahoma both play Georgia and Alabama coming up. So they're going to be out. We're going to shift in. And given that scenario, there's a way, and this is maybe the best case of the Big 12, we're like, BYU beats Tech. They play the Big 12 championship against Darien's TCU team. Let's talk about it. TCU wins that game.

TCU wins that game. They're in. BYU can't be left out. Texas Tech can't be left out. And then Utah is still sitting there at number 11 because these SEC teams, and big 10 teams are going to lose to one another down the stretch. It seems like the best place to be in any conference is like the third best team in the conference because you don't have to play the conference championship game

and you're still like good enough to be like, okay, well, we have to put them in the playoff, right? That feels like the spot to be like the Ole Miss spot, if you will. Or Ole Miss, like a Georgia's right there, too, Oregon's there in the Big Ten and Utah's in that spot right now. If Utah can continue to dominate some of the teams that continue to dominate the way they have, they will be in this because like we talked about like some of these teams they're just going to knock each other off so you Utah's in a good spot right now and I do think that even with a loss this week tech is still in a nice spot especially if they can get into the big 12 title game to still make the college ball playoff with those losses only being to good teams I tell you right here Utah who do you take my thing about the tech losing is it does feel contingent on them making and winning the big football championship so I don't know how good of a position that feels to me like if you are now putting a where you must win against BYU in the title game again that doesn't feel so favorable because I don't think a two lost Texas Tech who has lost to who was the first loss for that Texas Tech Arizona State this brings the SMU thing back up again though they're not supposed to give you any discredit for losing in a championship game so I said about SMU unless it's a third loss though that's a little different but my thing is my thing is okay does the two lost Texas Tech make the college football playoffs if they don't make

the championship game. I think they have a chance, depending on what else happens. Christian hit the nail on the head earlier saying we need Notre Dame to lose. Pitt is playing better football right now. Go Oregon. Can I ask a question about Oregon? They finish the year at the USC in Washington, so that may be a moot point. They beat teens by a lot of points when they beat them except for Penn State.

Their best wins Penn State, though, and that's not even good win. And Penn State fired their coach because they had a bad year. It looked good in the Whiteout, but it's not as good of, a win as it once was looked at before James Brick inspired. So they hang a bunch of points on these teams that are supposed to beat. But who they really beat? You beat Oklahoma State? Parker, what are you talking about, dude?

What do you what do you mean? This year's Indiana, Parker. Just a team that's blowing out random teams that nobody cares about. And Oklahoma State, obviously the juggernaut that they are. Except they also lost to this year's Indiana. I think that's my thing. It's like they've only played one good team and lost to them. And they may play two at the end of the year.

That may change things. But right now we don't see what they've done. So what are you both? Like, what's the alternative, right? Because we know, like what you're describing is it feels like a stance against what normally would happen. So how would you suggest that the committee will go by it? Because we know what they do. If you're a preseason, all-star, preseason, great team, and you beat teams you're supposed to beat by gigantic amounts,

you're most likely going to be put into the college football playoffs, even if you do have a loss against your one good team. See, usually that's the case. When I think the committee proved this year is that they, want to veer from that via putting Texas Tech above Oregon. This is a different committee. Like we haven't seen, in my mind, Oregon, no doubt would be above BYU, would be above Texas tech in these rankings. The fact that they were not shows me this committee is doing it a little bit differently. If that precedent is set right now with this year's version of the committee,

that I think what we're going to see is that if Oregon loses to Washington, let's say, and Notre Dame loses to Pitt, and Texas loses to Georgia. And Alabama goes on to beat. And Alabama goes on to beat Oklahoma. Those are four teams in or ahead of us that they all get bumped out if the Big 12 continues to win with, say, one lost BYU, one lost Texas Tech. And we already know the committee likes to lost Utah. We're in a much better spot than we could be Sands, the whole Cincinnati deal, like them getting left out with sucked.

But yes, Parker. I think the story there is actually that like Indiana is kind of the example of what would happen with Oregon, right? Because Indiana was in the college football playoff last year and came in. And like, if you look at their schedule, their good wins are Iowa, which was on the road, I guess. They weren't right or whatever. And then Oregon themselves, like that's their two big wins. And it's not like those are, there's a whole lot of those.

That's kind of just the inverse of Oregon and won that game. Yeah. And that's what I'm looking at here. It's actually like we're seeing that the committee says, okay, the second place of those two is falling all the way back to nine. I think that tells us something about that as well. Like, I just, it's an interesting problem because I don't know what to make of Oregon. Can I get you guess? They have the new metric, the strength of record, whatever they call it, the record strength,

whereas, like, you could beat a lot of teams by a lot, but if you're playing the Citadel in Oklahoma State, no offense, I'm sorry, Colorado every week, like, doesn't matter, right? Doesn't matter if you're blowing these bad teams out. And so I think it's kind of nice to see them, like, actually value. Please, from the Loyal Cougars podcast, Tosh McIntosh, everyone. Wow. Happy to be here. Big day for the Big 12.

I don't know. We couldn't get Jake Hatch. I just grabbed Tosh. All the cougars are you can find. All the cougars are can find. Yeah, I mean, all right. Coming up, the next segment of the Big 12 squad, Tosh shut up for a second.

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You get to play BYU here for us. The Coogers are number seven in the country above Oregon. So my audio on listening to you guys is bad. I don't know how well you can hear me, but I'm happy to stand in. I'm happy to stand in for Jake, Phil, honored, and what a big day for the Big 12 and the Cougars. Like, I feel like it is the right ranking, but I'm shocked that the selection committee did the right thing and put BYU where they did and all three big 12 teams where they did. like who would it guess guys am i the only one that feels like this might be a little bit of smoke and mirrors like the committee's putting putting the big 12 on a bit of this ranking just to knock

back down as the season progresses because they really like florida state at one point in time until they didn't and then they had to manufacture a reason for them not to you know take this sets this sets up a perfect shot they didn't have to go that far and i'm filling beer I've got a different doomsday scenario, actually, that makes me worried. It sets up a perfect shot to move Utah down, though, because you're on a buy. So it makes a perfect idea to be like, let's sit you up here for a minute. And then we'll have a couple people to jump before you blow out Kansas State probably the week after. Also, anyone else shocked that Jeff Long is still in the playoff committee?

Hasn't he committed like war crimes in the Middle East? How was Jeff Long still here? I thought we got rid of that guy a long time ago. Kansas athletic director, Jeff Long, by the way. Cody, how are you going to bring up the, you cannot bring up the Florida State thing and say they manufacture reason. It's the most important position on the field. They had an injury. They clearly look

worse. If a Utah team stays healthy and continues to blow out the non-tech and BYU teams as they have been, there's no way they're going to just drop. You can't manufacture a reason unless they're genuinely is one, like a quarterback injury at that position. So I'm so good about where you tell them. Did they or did they not still win the conference championship

with the backup quarterback? They did. There was also how many undefeated, how many, there was all those undefeated teams. Well, consider, we've also moved to 12 now. We're 12 teams now. It becomes a little bit of a big deal. Florida State would get in. They would have still been in the top 12.

I'll also say that I think manufactured a reason is a bit aggressive. Like, did they find a reason? Yes. But I think, I can't remember. I think it was Borba who said it wasn't like it was a hard reason to find. There is stuff fell off a cliff without Travis. This is an aggressive podcast here. And that's a way we roll, man.

All right. TCU's making the college football playoffs. There we go. Since we're getting aggressive, we're going to go run the table. No, don't stop. Hold on. No, Darien's right. There is a scenario in which TCU, they've got a pretty decent path to make the Big 12th title. You win that. You're in the playoff. The thing about TCU in trying to make the playoffs is, I spoke about this earlier, is I feel like TCU has so much talent. They just never can put it together, right? Hey, catch. Tosh McIntosh is here, Jake. I just thought you should know.

Hey, Josh, what's up, man? We got four long. Locked on Cougars on. This is awesome. How do you guys? Yeah. How are you doing? Yeah, I mean, BYU is the highest rank, so we got two reps today. But I'm going to hop off here in a second and let Jake have all the spotlight.

But what I will say is last year, I felt like the committee was sending a message with its first rankings that, hey, we're only letting one big 12 team in. And then they, that's what happened in the end. I feel like this year, the selection committee was sending a message to the ACC. the ACC, hey, you're only getting one in. They sent a message to, hey, the Big 12 is going to get multiple, and I'm all for it. Well, everybody, give it up, Tosh McIntosh. Yeah. Great job, sir.

Great job, there he goes. Yeah, we can get to that point, but Dary, and I do want to let you finish that out. TCU still has, in a similar way to Arizona State, a path to the college ball playoff. Yeah, I think the two-lost team in the Big 12 is so fast. because as you go through the schedules, let's say TCU runs the table. And one of the things that I was speaking about on my show earlier this week is the idea that TCU actually has a pretty complete team. They just don't put it together enough, right? Like Borbesar, they struggled in the first quarter versus Colorado or struggling at the end versus Baylor and nearly allowing that comeback or losing to Arizona State because you couldn't close the game. But TCU has the talent to be able to compete. So if they were to run the table, that would mean they would have a win against U.H. Parker's out. That's a three lost team. Boom. You get them out the way. You have a win against BYU, which if BYU loses to tech and they lose the TCU, that's a two lost team that you would have the tiebreaker over. You got a win against

Cincinnati, which would then push them down to two losses. We speak about these closing months, these last couple of games for a lot of teams. When it comes to TCU, they don't technically control their own destiny because there's still other pieces they need. But they do have a lot of control over their destiny where they can face teams and knock off teams that are above them and make the conversation a whole lot more interesting as we wind down. So the two lost team is very interesting. I'm just the representative of one of them. So I'm going to speak about my team. But man, the two lost team in the Big 12 is fascinating to me with all of the pivotal matchups that we'll see. Darian, if history holds true, T.C. will put it all together against

BYU. They have had some absolutely epic battles in the past. Well, I hope so. I think that that's going to be, and I know we're getting ahead of ourselves, but man, that crossover that you and I are going to have it, it's going to be interesting. There's a lot of storylines I'm already looking forward to history, the role game, but you know, we'll do the, what you said, doce Grande, we'll keep it here. And then when it's the

cougars and frogs, we'll get into it then. But, man, it's interesting. Parker, do you have your pen is out? Yeah, you know, I'm all for the brand today. My, I do have a doonday scenario that I'm worried about because it would be the

ultimate. All right. Give me your, just call it the J.T. Worcester cell scenario. Don't call it doomsday. Well, actually, I think he'll like it the worst is,

I mentioned that Alabama and Georgia play Texas. My Wi-Fi is terrible right now, so sorry. I'm missing like everything. I thought you were just angry at him. I thought he was just angry. I was worried. Go back and look. You look furious.

I, but so we mentioned that Alabama and Georgia play Texas in Oklahoma. We're scheduling those as losses for those two, the Red River schools, right? If the inverse happens, I don't think they drop Alabama and Georgia very far and i that actually worries me because it would be a very like frankly a very cc thing to happen and it would be a very easy thing to the cfp like oh but alabama's alabama and georgia and they would just leave them in the top eight didn't work last year though no i'm not saying they get to three losses but if it is the flip side and like the best case scenario for uh the big 12 this week is Auburn finds a way to beat vandy uh which would be wild

And then, of course, Texas and Oklahoma all losing. That gives them all three losses. And then they are out of the picture in the eyes of what the Big 12 has. So the inverse could still obviously be there, no doubt. And that doomsday scenario probably wouldn't be the best. But there's still a really good shot that Texas falls this week, Oklahoma falls this week. And don't count out maybe a recharged Auburn. Who knows?

The SEC like that's been really wild this year. Oh. So are you saying I'm supposed to root against OU this weekend? How difficult. Can you put on a brave face for it? I will do my damnedest. I do want to go back to the top point of the Big 12 getting more respect in the ACC and a very clear line has been drawn that the conference that will get screwed over this year is not us.

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james madison and north texas went out or south florida went out they might not even get in together like virginia's their bell cow that's not a good spot to be yeah i like i like north texas's chances i think they look the best resume or us they went out they lost they lost and the name you didn't mention memphis keep an eye on the memphis tigers boys that ua b lost i think really hurts them though memphis is a team that they like though they've already established them but i mean wait or excuse me virginia they have like a pretty easy path but they're also virginia like they've kind of just limped to their point where they beat Washington State by two.

They beat the fighting Bill Belichick's by one. They beat Cal by 10. I don't think there's a chance that they finish this season unscathed. The same thing with Notre Dame to go back. Their ACC adjacent, sorry, but I just feel like they don't finish the season unscathed as well. Virginia's got a much to get 10.

Like, what is their loss? What is their quality when? Good losses, Darien. We love touchdown Jesus. I don't know. They got the word on their side. Yeah, the same way. We got BYU at the top. We got all all these religious schools are making this topic. There you go.

It's a, A. And what's that, what's the religious school that's going to come and take the Big 12? As a former B.R. Once said, when you're living right on and off the field, magic happens. There you go. There's just, this is strange. Which is why are you tying Omega? What happens if Oregon lose this?

The Big Ten has a championship game. What happened Oregon loses to Indiana in the championship game? Since we're just throwing out like scenarios. what happens to them when they're two losses and they don't have an impressive win and they lost to one of the better teams twice. In that event, Ohio State's missing the championship? I was going to say, oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Brain fart. Is it going to drop two games in the next two weeks or something like that? No, yeah. What do you know? Okay, but they don't beat Michigan. But Ohio State Michigan, they don't be Michigan anymore, right?

That's just the thing that Day doesn't do anymore, right? Oh, true. Yeah. I mean, let's Texas guys got to stick together, Parker. For the Big Ten, the big, the big 12 should want just like Iowa or excuse Indiana and Ohio State to sort of handle business because like if you let USC or Oregon or Iowa it's not going to happen but Iowa if you let any of these teams sort of like scoot up to the top and like make things more complicated in the big 10

I think that's when we'll start to see the ripple effects in the big 12 so you need the big 10 to handle business the SEC is going to candleize itself and the big 12 just sort of has to not big 12 and like totally implode with like say Texas tech losing multiple games and be while you losing a couple of games here and they're like just has to handle business, which is easier said than done for the Big 12th. Since we're talking about the Big 10, J.T. That means, you're up. Especially this conference.

What would happen if the ACC did fall out completely though? Because like there is an actual path here. Because you have Big 10, SEC, Big 12, at least one group of five. No, two group of five. You have to have five champions. Notre American and Mountain West would probably be the most

likely situation there. Yeah, so you're telling me, American. Former Colorado offense coordinator, Sean Lewis might be in the playoffs. Yes, San Diego State, baby. Aztec fast, baby. Yeah, they've changed it up. No, honestly, though, what changes, though? Like, what would realignment do?

Or what would they talk about when it comes to college football playoff expansion this off season? What does that do? Orders they're hitting the ejector button immediately. Does that buyout make a little bit more sweeter in the off season this year? If the ACC misses the playoffs completely? If the ACC doesn't get anybody in, well, you talk. I'll be in the ACC next year. Oh, hey, can we also consider this in my reflection over the course of the last

hour or so, this is releasing on Thursday. We're recording right after the announcement of the playoff committee. A one-loss ACC team that was number seven in the AP poll is four spots behind a two-loss Big 12 Utah. That is incredible. That is something we never expected. I thought that Utah would be 17th, and Georgia Tech would be 13th. And it's the inverse.

So, the thing is, you look at Georgia Tech's strength of schedule, which is a strength of record, I should say, in terms of what they're considering in the committee. They're 84. That's why they're moving down. So they are way. The committee is also paying attention to the fact that they should have lost the game against Wake Forest.

And they're talking about eyeball test into metrics. And I appreciate that. You keep winning. You're going to keep moving up in these rankings. It sure looks that way. at least on this initial ranking list. Also, we can't give the ACC a pass for Virginia losing to NC State, but not counting as a conference game.

Just can't count it. Just can't give them a pass for that. Is that their only loss? Why is I love that NC State's just the world beater. This is all area. NC State is like wrecking shop for everybody. Also, NC State's Dark Horse Future Big 12 school doing our work for us.

For us last year, when Iowa State and Arizona State were at the top of the Big 12, we were all pointing, like the ACC was pointing and laughing at our conference. We're not having a power team at the top of the league. This year, we're pointing and laughing that their representative is Virginia. That's bad. Like, they're represented by Virginia and Louisville and Georgia Tech. The team just lost NC State. The ACC is in the same position we were last year.

Yeah, they have more teams ranked the top 25 right now. But I don't need anybody ranked from 14 to 25. I don't give a rat's ass about those spots. And we have three teams in the top 15. It gives still a better opportunity for a TCU to get a marquee win, for a Kansas State the home rack for a Houston to come back of the conversation, Jake?

I know I showed up to. I know I showed up to. Do we talk about the point of Mack Rhodes sliding in the fact that they helped ESPN out by ranking BYU and Texas Tech 7 and 8 to, you know, juice up college game day a little bit?

I did not hear that. I don't think it. Yeah. I just know him relentlessly winking at the camera. I could appreciate a big 1280 and you know him well, Drake Toll. Just sliding that in there and saying, hey, you're welcome ESPN.

Yeah, I'm Mac and I, We're good buddies, Matt. We've watched the, I know you've got to. We've watched SEC games get propped up precisely like this. So I'm not going to lie. It's kind of cool being on the beneficiary side of the day. I love it. I love the fact that we have a Big 12 sitting AD as the lead chair in that room.

Look, Jeff Long was the first ever. J.T. crap, that's my only contribution today is giving J.T. a hard time. I do hope that Utah gets in because I think that that would be a massive moment for the Big 12. and I think that Utah is good enough that all three Big 12 teams could legitimately have the possibility of getting a W if they do get it. Hey, J.T.

What's better for Utah, a BYU or a Texas Tech win on Saturday? For Utah? Not for Big 12 championship consideration. That's a good question. Playoff considerations. That's a good question. It's more likely to have BYU.

A BYU wins better, I believe. They need BYU to win out, essentially, to keep them very much. Now, J.T. How about like a redux of the Holy War in LES in mid-December? how about that? Oh, that would be fantastic. That would be absolutely epic.

Oh, in the Rose Bowl. BYU finally goes to Rose Bowl. I'm looking at it's interesting. They did show a willingness with them. The one thing it's interesting is because they put Notre Dame ahead of Miami, it does show a willingness that if, BYU got two losses that Utah could get ahead of them. Nope. no i mean i see what j t's saying though because

it's not it's not really about what you did but that happened in the first three weeks and remember it's the committee whatever happens in the first three weeks doesn't count apparently doesn't matter one bit apparently yeah it's it's clearly better to play someone like nard dane did it they lost both of those games actually right and like yeah Notre Dame is the living example of you the first three weeks just don't matter in the season Alabama lost to florida state in four states nowhere near this they they talked about the Notre Dame losses and i i had never heard like that was SEC level propaganda of like they were such good losses though it was the final play and then

it was it was like almost the final play on the other one like I was like dude you're making it seem like they they won the Super Bowl but they they lost twice and it was close sure but borb they were almost there man they were right I mean a couple more concessions and maybe they get it I don't know good losses should mean nothing without being accompanied by good wins like I can let you get the good loss argument off because they were good I mean I know they were good loss but where are the good wins? The best thing on your resume can't be we were almost there. You got a hypothetical wins, Darren.

How do we feel about those hypothetical wins? If they played this, if the game was another minute, if you would have, I don't know. Launch on SEC squad loves their hypothetical wins. The transitive property is a big thing in the SEC, man. Come on now.

The conference known for that. The SEC at least has the stigma, or at least I don't even say stigma, because I think there's some truth to it. to where they have these quality wins. Like, you go through Notre Dame's games. Are we putting up Purdue? I mean, granted, they have Arkansas, so the SEC,

but like Boise State, North Carolina State, they did get USC. It just, what are you? At least have the best winning and hang their hat on, we beat SEC teams. Like, even if people feel like that's flimsy, feel like it shouldn't be the case, at least they have that.

Notre Dame is just hanging their hat on where Notre Dame. And I think that's, that's a flimsy hook. Like, that is very tough, but, you know. Are you accusing them of going off a brand power, Daryon? Am I accusing, am I accusing them? Yeah. Yes. I thought that was queer.

I wasn't hiding, actually. Good news, boys. The big 12's a wagging. Let's keep it rolling. Yeah. On the positive note, three, three teams. You know, I don't know what happens to the rest of you when, when the frogs come through. But right now, I think we should bask in the glory of them.

All right, Houston, seven, and two. I can still end up. Oh, jeez. No, one said it. All right. I love you guys. This has been at always. We'll be locked.

Oh, he's the only team without a win. The last, like, two years. But he just, I thought we're going to hang it up. We count that as a win. Can we count on jumping on J.P. It's wrestling season. What are we talking about? There you go.

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