Locked On Jayhawks - Daily Podcast On Kansas Jayhawks Football & Basketball - BIG 12 SQUAD - What Analysts Say About the Kansas Jayhawks Ahead of Week Fourteen

Episode Date: November 27, 2025

SEC rivalry week ramps up as playoff dreams and coaching rumors swirl. Can Alabama’s defense shut down Auburn in the Iron Bowl, or will house money and chaos reign in Jordan-Hare? Brandon Olsen, Chr...is Gordy, Steven Willis, and the squad debate playoff bids, shocking upsets, and which blueblood—Georgia or Texas A&M—faces a must-win scenario. Heated discussions erupt around Lane Kiffin’s future, with Florida, LSU, and Ole Miss fans all bracing for a shakeup that could redefine the SEC coaching landscape.Key matchups—from the Egg Bowl’s overlooked drama to Vanderbilt vs. Tennessee’s Heisman-worthy quarterback duel—anchor the conversation. Insights on Georgia Tech’s upset hopes, Mark Stoops’ job security at Kentucky, and the committee’s playoff selection criteria round out this jam-packed episode. Who emerges as the SEC’s true playoff contender, and where will Lane Kiffin land? Squad up and get the insider breakdown on football’s wildest weekend yet. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It appears that the Big 12 has got a college football playoff problem. We're talking about it on the Big 12 squad. You're talking ball with the Big 12 squad. From Oklahoma State to Utah, from Kansas State to BYU. From Houston to Texas Tech, it's the local experts of the locked on podcast network, bringing you scoops, breakdowns, and the most comprehensive preview of the upcoming Big 12 weekend. Buckle up, it's the Big 12 squad, and we have a seat for you. Know her feelings and thin skin allowed.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Squad up, you're part of the Big 12 Squad. Welcome into the Big 12 Squad, everybody. I'm Locked on Cougars host Jake Hatchfillion for Drake Toll. Of course, the man, the myth, the legend that hosts Locked on Big 12. Right across for me digitally is Chris Lovell, host of Lockdown, Texas Tech. Next to him is Cody Stovall, who locked on Oklahoma State. They have got a new coach. We'll talk about Eric Morris here in a little bit.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Below me, Mountaineer Paul from Lockdown, West Virginia. to him, Kevin Borga, locked on buffs, and then some guy named JT who owes to show that I'd rather not talk about, but that's a fuck on you. So everybody's doing fantastic on this holiday weekend, a happy Thanksgiving to everybody out there. And guys, let's kick it off right now by reminding everybody, make sure you subscribe, right to read these shows, as Drake likes to say, help us keep our jobs by doing that very thing.
Starting point is 00:01:21 But do we have a college football crisis, college football playoff crisis unfolding for the big 12 because sure looks like they are. teened up to deny both BYU and Utah any chance of getting into the field. Yes, and Chris Lovell needs to tell his people to take one for the team because Texas Tech's getting in no matter what happens. So best case scenario is they get upset in the Big 12th title game. Then we get two teams in. Then Tech can go all the way to the Natty, baby.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Chris, I thought this thing out, buddy. I'll say from a Utah standpoint really quick, since, you know, we still won and they dropped us. I'm frustrated, but I understand it. because we didn't look impressive defensively against Kansas State. They have a much better win than us, but at the same time, their losses are so bad. That's where it is
Starting point is 00:02:06 tough. It's irritating, but they're also played teams closer than we obviously did a tech. So two lost teams, thin margins. I get why they did it, but it is annoying that you still win and drop. J.T., I think you guys would beat Notre Dame pretty convincingly for whatever that's worth, and I also think that Utah, Alabama,
Starting point is 00:02:23 everything that they could handle. I mean, I think we're good. I don't know if we'd beat them like, Notre Dame. They just want about like What did they just win by this weekend? And Jordan game's really good. So, hi, Parker. How are you doing, sir? We just lost the basketball game and I had to talk about it for 30 minutes.
Starting point is 00:02:38 So I'd like to talk about anything else right now. Can I add, though? I also think Utah beat Notre Dame. And I guess I'm not, I don't think a lot about Syracuse, though. And frankly, I think what's fascinating to me is Utah didn't just get jumped by anyone. They got jump by Miami, by Miami, who has the head-to-head with Notre Dame, right? If that jump continues, like, at what point? are they in the same tier where we're going to compare that head-to-head to make the coming
Starting point is 00:03:02 in like i would say i would say you guys are all crazy because utah is not the same team as it was prior to saturday because of the daily injury he's one of the best defensive players in the big 12 yeah and he's and i hate injuries factoring into this but he is a monster uh relentless pass rushing monster first team all big 12 guy you don't have him for the rest of the year that that that i don't care what team we're talking about that that changes who you are big time okay so let me let me let me teed this up for whoever wants to take it but we're seeing and every article i've read coming out from espn who essentially is the mouthpiece of the college football playoff committee says that the one loss the b yu has on the record is being held against them more than their 10 wins to date what i'm
Starting point is 00:03:50 supposed to make of this and chris i guess in the case of you because b yu did lose the tech and looks like they're on a head-on collision for a rematch in arlington but What are we to make of that, that one loss can now do 10 wins and what BYU's accomplished? Well, the BYU's problem is, and I think Texas Tech has a similar problem is, is that Stanford and what was it, East Carolina, and I think for Texas Tech, it was Oregon State. There's just nothing to lean on in the non-conference. And then it's kind of who you get matched up with. you know they they don't get a lot of credit for beating Arizona State like they well that that was Utah because I've even seen like because Utah hammered Arizona State
Starting point is 00:04:34 but they didn't have Levit in that game and so there's some of that it's you just spin the wheel and pick the argument I don't it's so frustrating it is frustrating and that's why you know Jake and your people know this but they absolutely have a chance to make it into this thing Period. All you have to do is win. Yeah, but the end. To quote the great Skip Dayless song. I hate that guy. Can I mention one thing, though?
Starting point is 00:05:02 I also think this is completely refuting, and not just because he's not here. At the start of year, Drake was saying, we should all schedule a bunch of nobodies because the goal was to go 11-0-12-0. And clearly, this is kind of pointing out, like, actually, that, you'd rather be Alabama with a loss to Florida State, apparently, because even though Florida State sucks, they were a power 14 that you lost to and that's apparently the way to go because it also doesn't count for anything anymore
Starting point is 00:05:26 it also matters when you lose to your point yes that's the thing about this is Florida State remember when they won everybody say oh Florida State's back they're going to bounce back this season yeah not so much they're five and six no but Drake and I'm picking on because he's not here if you were here it did the same thing he was pushing all of us to play
Starting point is 00:05:43 a bunch of pat seats in the non-conference because he thought the path was go 11 and no go and it's like actually We were told, though, West Virginia's played two non-conference teams every single year, up until this year. We just changed it because they told us to. I mean, look at the Notre Dame, look at the Notre Dame Miami game. Yeah. That's what I'm frustrated about is like we were doing that because that's what the old, you know, that's what it used to be the thing.
Starting point is 00:06:09 You had to have a tough non-conference schedule. And then everybody started like, especially the SEC, we're scheduling cream puffs in the non-con. and they were getting their way. But now that they're not, and there's more parity in college football and people are catching up. The harsh reality, the harsh reality is,
Starting point is 00:06:27 and this is, for the most part, going to continue to be a one to one and a half bid league. Yeah. The hard part to build off of Chris's point, too, is like not everybody gets the same rules or benefit of the doubt. Like one loss or two lost SEC team, it's like, okay, well,
Starting point is 00:06:46 they went through the gaunt of, whatever, this many teams. Like, Oklahoma is a solid team, but their resume looks really good because they've beaten, what is it, three ranked teams? Like, even in Texas Tech is getting a lot of credit right now in the rankings, and it's because of the way that they've done it. I think they have 10 wins over 20 points or more. Their margin of victory is 30 points.
Starting point is 00:07:10 And if not for that, if not for that, you may be seeing, you know, a 10-1 team that was, in the 10 range as opposed to the five range. But I think they're getting credit for how they've done it. And so, yeah, there's letters to this stuff. To add to your point, BYU has the most wins over teams with seven plus wins. Most teams, most wins over teams, they've got more wins in terms of legit bull teams. We're talking seven plus win victories. But to your point, the way BYU has done it is a lot of grinded out, come from behind victories,
Starting point is 00:07:46 versus being a wagon that Texas Tech appears to be. Imagine, I think, Oklahoma has three ranked wins. They're the back half of it, but Houston's got two. Like, the way this thing works out is not just a ranked win anymore, though. It's more about the brand. It's more about which ranked win was it. And I think that's- Texas, too, is like if they beat Texas A&M,
Starting point is 00:08:05 there's going to be such a case for them to get in despite three losses. You already know it's going to happen. It's like, well, they be number four, and then they beat whoever else. Like, you know that's going to happen. Or if Michigan beats Ohio State, like, honestly, like, same kind of thing. Same kind of thing. Hey, I've got some pencil neck, like, distance runner, Texas A&M fan, who's been in my mentions
Starting point is 00:08:25 all week on Twitter, just barking to me about the Big 12 in the SEC. I will accept Texas beating A&M so I can just shut him up. I'll just, I'll just, I don't have that on the docket. I know. I appreciate the term pencil neck. It hasn't been, I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm a lot of bubble gum, right? Go look at this kid's bio. He's a distance runner, and I swear he's never played a down
Starting point is 00:08:48 of football in his lap. You're giving him way more, like, time on this show that he already deserved on. I know, anyways, but the point- He studied his neck. The study of his neck, yeah. Kevin, the SEC bias that exists will absolutely prop up Texas in that circumstance. All right. Coming up next, though, we have at least one new head coach.
Starting point is 00:09:06 We already know he's going to be involved in this league next year, and he may be the ultimate quarterback whisperer. We'll get to that next. The Big 12 squad rolls on, right? on the locked on podcast network. Today's show is brought to you by our friends over at Fandwell. The NBA is back and there's no better place to get in on the action than with Fandwell, the official sports betting partner of the NBA, even if it's the start of the
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Starting point is 00:10:12 but Eric Morris, 40 years old, taken over in Stillwell. He's a man, he's sporty. We've already got that established and out of the way. Yeah, this is very exciting, especially when, you know, schools like LSU and Penn State and UCLA are still searching Arkansas, right? There's a lot of jobs out there that you would think would stack above Oklahoma State for us to get a higher of this caliber this early. I think it does accentuate the fact that Oklahoma State has more to offer.
Starting point is 00:10:42 than some of the national punditry might want to pretend. Yet we've always been good at, you know, acquiring offensive talent. So having an offensive innovation kind of mind is a big deal. Coming from that Mike Leach tree is also a very, very big deal. And I also think from a coordinator perspective, they have some things going for them, but he likely is to bring Jew messmaker with him. That's worth a weight as gold in and of itself. defensive line coach. Greg Richmond is a cowboy that could potentially come back home.
Starting point is 00:11:14 And you mentioned the quarterback thing, right? This is not only the dude who was able to unearth Baker Mayfield. He was also the only coach in the room telling everybody that they need to give Baker Mayfield a scholarship. Then he recruits Cam Ward. Then he was on the pier. This is an absolute savant at the quarterback position. And thankfully, things are cruising so well in Lubbock, we don't have to worry about him getting post from us anytime soon, right? Let's call him spade if Colin Klein got the job, we'd all be waiting on the day that he was to leave us for Kansas State. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:52 That conversation about Eric Morris at least provides you a little bit more time because they have things rocking and rolling at Lubbock, and that is yet another reason I'm excited about this, the regionality when it comes to recruiting, the fact that he has a lot of underclassmen that are the best players on the North Texas. squad. There's tons of things to be excited about, but maybe more so than all else is the fact that we have a coach before some of the LSUs and Penn States of the world. Okay, so let me bring this point. I think it's Dary and Gray that pointed out to us this week that Sonny Dykes was talking about the fact that this is a league. I think this is the deepest in terms of quarterback talent top
Starting point is 00:12:27 to bottom. And Cody, I think you'd admit this as well as all of us. Oklahoma State seems to be the one program who seems to be Sands a quarterback right now. And Eric Morris figures to be the guy that to bring Mestemaker or somebody in that will bolster this conference. I think it's, I guess, I'll involve everybody else here. Your guys' thoughts on Oklahoma State, bringing a guy who knows quarterback play at a high level. You said Sands at quarterback. They said their backup was better than Dan Peer was. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:12:54 No, so now Utah is going to have a chance to go get Hoss Haney. You're welcome. You're welcome. Utah's backup may be better than their starter in some people's minds. So I will say this is a home run of a higher. for them and the conference. This guy is frankly frightening. So he was, not to be the Houston,
Starting point is 00:13:13 he was at Houston when Hoggerson was the OC back in the case, Kingdom Days. He was at Tech under Leach and Kingsborough. At Kingsbury, I think actually, right, Chris? He was at Washington State was where he had the Leach connection. He played for Leach. Like, this guy understands like scoring, scoring, scoring.
Starting point is 00:13:28 My one hesitation is that, like, on a sample size thing, he's got the one-year an incarnate word, and we know that that was a Cam Ward year, 10 games and then he's got this year at 10 games it's like okay like is two seasons and separation from two separate places like he's he's young it could it could all be signed twin it upwards it's just a very small sample that's far Chris level as he freezes no I didn't freeze I didn't freeze I didn't feel it's about the red white or rod receiver buddy yeah I've
Starting point is 00:14:00 known I've known the angry elf for about 20 years um at least uh this is a guy with a chip on his shoulder, he demanded to have a spot on Mike's team back in the day would show up to the facility and you're going to take me. This is my dream. I'm going to, and he's just, yeah, he played here four years and he coached here. It is, I do find it, I get some humor out of how many people have taken credit for Patrick Mahomes over the years, for Baker Mayfield over the years. I think Cam Ward, there's a lot of, you know, John Mateer. John Mateer is also, Eric has got some rub there.
Starting point is 00:14:47 So, but what Eric does, he gets more, gets more out of less, and he develops. He's from shallow water, Texas, which is about 20 minutes from where I'm talking to you from right now. And I know his dad well, and his dad will tell you that the North Texas, his era has been very rewarding yet frustrating because he just gets poached every year. And yet they still have, I mean, Messamaker didn't even start for his high school team, guys. Correct. It started since ninth grade, if I'm not mistaken.
Starting point is 00:15:23 No, I mean, and so, like, that's what I, if you can figure out that position and nothing else, you're going to win more than you lose. You're going to win more than you lose. You may not win big. you may not win like everybody wants necessarily. And I think he's proven that he's been pretty consistent. But great dude. But he's just, and like he's buddies with when Texas Tech won at Kansas State
Starting point is 00:15:52 several weeks ago, Eric Morris, he facetimedom, I think, Joey, when Joey was on the plane. We were flying home and they're talking about, you know, stories. So this league is becoming quite incestual. I'll even tie this into I'll even tie this into my man Mountaineer pole because Right after incestual That's right
Starting point is 00:16:13 I thought we were talking about the SEC Because Texas Tech has headed to Morgantown this weekend Who is coached by Rich Rodriguez And his second stent there, right? Do you know who the finalist was When Tech hired Mike Leach It was Rich Rodriguez and Mike Leach
Starting point is 00:16:32 Those were the two guys They had them both in here for interviews, and Texas Tech chose Mike Leach because they thought Rich Rodriguez would ultimately want to be the head coach at Clemson, if that job ever came open because that's where he was the O.C. But, like, Sunny Dyke spent 10 years in Lubbock as an O.C. Rich Rod and Texas Tech would have been interesting. Yeah, well, because they wanted somebody that lit up the scoreboard. And obviously, Rich Rodriguez has proven to be able to do that.
Starting point is 00:16:58 But it's just wild how there's so many connections and all these things. with some of this stuff and so much of it revolves around Mike. But I will say this, Oklahoma State did very well for themselves here. I don't know how quickly it will get turned around, but they did very well for themselves here. They hired a good man, a good family guy, he's young, and in time that they may be challenged to try to keep a hold of him. But Chad Weiberg, who just hired him,
Starting point is 00:17:29 also spent a lot of time in Lubbock, Texas under Kirby Hillcut. I did a lot of research on this guy right after the hire because I have another show I was going to talk about him on. He's done a lot of work there at Texas Tech, man, or North Texas. 77 players they brought in. I was reading about there, Cody, which is the most roster turnover in the country right along there with West Virginia. You know, in the day and age where the roster turnover in Colorado. Yeah, in a day and age where that's probably one of the most valuable things that you can do is understand how to turn a lot of players into a, a decent football team, even though it's at the group, group of five level, still pretty
Starting point is 00:18:08 impressive, in my opinion. And then you just look at some of the categories, top five passing offense, top 10 offense nationally, top 25 scoring offense, led the country in total offense. And then you guys talked about all the coaching and development that he brings to the table. Obviously, on the surface, it looks like a home run, you know, so get a good defensive coordinator and you guys are cooking. I think the best thing, too, about this higher is the timing. They're way out in front of everybody here.
Starting point is 00:18:40 And obviously, North Texas is still, it's my understanding that he's going to finish it out, whatever that looks like, because that could involve a final regular season game, a conference championship game, potential bid in the playoffs if they were to potentially beat Tulane maybe is the way it kind of points. But I think the timing, because they were kind of out in front of everybody here before everybody. else made a hire what a concept for a coach to actually finish the job he started not just leave for the biggest job crazy i got two things of the timing actually one i love that they just come and said hey i don't care if this season isn't over yet we're this is what we're doing and we're going to tell everyone about it like they could have kept this under wraps for 48 hours or whatever they went
Starting point is 00:19:19 like like no like tell your kids tell everyone we're doing this second did you all see that the university of north texas put out oh i saw it breathe if you're feeling overwhelmed u and t has mental health support yeah less than 20 minutes before the announcement yeah oh my gosh hey look sports is real like that man i think is great i visited denton for the the east west shrine bowl there's there's not a lot out there um so if football's their their biggest their biggest passion they may need some some consultation don't mean green producing baseball basketball coaches apparently uh north texas head coach at the time ross hodge said that he was coming to West Virginia
Starting point is 00:20:00 before he finished the NIT and was so the same situation played out except in basketball for us with Ross Hodge as with you guys with Eric Morris announced it still plus finished it out got to the championship game and everything so kind of weird how that it's like North Texas is very open with their coaches
Starting point is 00:20:20 and he's not on this show he's not on this show but I will tell you that had Baylor had Baylor decided to make a move with Dave Aranda I think that Jared Mosley, the athletic director
Starting point is 00:20:38 at North Texas and Eric Morris in Waco could have been a package deal okay Waco all right well look at Chris Love will bring him the insider along the way I love you Dave Miranda crazy
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Starting point is 00:22:15 your first listen of the day and or view, I should say, if you're watching this on YouTube, but hope everybody's doing well out there on this Thanksgiving holiday. So, gentlemen, I want to start everybody off. We're going to go around the roundtable. What's everybody thankful for this time? Gary. Dave Miranda. Oil. Oil. Oil money. I like that. Cody Campbell. Chris that was thankful for Cody Campbell. Is it Double Eagle or whatever they call that? By the way. Cody actually came on my radio show here in Salt Lake City. Could not have been a better guess. I'm telling you. Chris, speaking just from the Utah, this BYU perspective set of things, you got an incredible human being running. things down there and love it. Yeah, well, he, and he's, I think he really likes the, the BYU, Utah additions, and he's been to both places and was, was obviously in Salt Lake City with us earlier
Starting point is 00:23:10 this year. But, yeah, no, he's, he's good people. And again, he's trying to help. Yes, he's trying to help Texas Tech, but he's trying to help keep the Big 12 relevant. And like, he's for the the non-blue blood, right? And that's really where, but I think a lot of people are, frustrated with him trying to voice his opinion, whether it be politically or NCAA-wise or whatever, but he's trying to, you know, make it fair for the schools like that are in the Big 12 that are in the, you know, like the CFP conversation we were talking about earlier and about the logos and all that stuff. There's a lot more money to be had he feels like out there, but I appreciate you saying that. All right. J.T., what are you thankful for? Come on. I, I sure you got something I can
Starting point is 00:23:55 rip you for. I got to be honest. I'm just going to go straight one. Willingham. I mean, this might be his final ever regular season game. So a huge shout to what Kyle winning is in college for Utah somehow finding a way for Utah to get that win. They released a little clip from what he was his speech in the locker room to at half time for Kansas State. He still got it a little bit. So thankful for all that Kyle Winningham has contributed for Utah and for all of my locked on Big 12 co-hosts on you. These are always fun doing these of you guys. He had to find something. They gave up 472 yards, dude. So bad. We were on pace to give him 800 at half.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Yeah, I'm just saying that was whatever they found, that was magic i'll just say that was the k-state team we thought was going to be this year correct yeah that was kind of the more of the except it was dylan edwards that we thought was going to be running around everywhere not shoeless joe oh yeah yeah yeah oh my jake what's yours well first off i'm thankful for all y'all and here's the thing uh i know that uh cincinnati is back in the headlines for a chant a derogatory chant that borgbe is well aware of with the whole f the mormons thing this that happened earlier this year and in bowl I was like, what did I do?
Starting point is 00:25:03 The genuine shock on his face. Yeah, I know. He's like, whoa, hold on. But it is, it's, it's, it's, it why you obviously is front and center with what they're accomplishing right now, 10 and one, back to back, double digit win seasons. We'll see if they get into the playoff. I'm, I'm hopeful that the playoff committee will see reason and put the cougars in. That's just, that's beside the point here.
Starting point is 00:25:22 But with this being back in the headlines, what not, it's just, BYU, I think is handled things the right way, despite, once again, a fairly derogatory chant being directed at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. But it seems like the Big 12, and I'm speaking from my vantage point, I've had Big 12 fans from every team it feels like reach out this week and express essentially their disdain for what happened at Cincinnati, but also supporting BYU at the same time. So I guess in some turnabout way, a pretty horrific situation, quite honestly, has turned to a very positive kind of coalescing the Big 12 around it. yeah absolutely it feels that way it's been cool to see this conference rally together around something
Starting point is 00:26:03 because it is crazy we keep doing this week after week they have to do something to put a stop to it yeah they you know before the texas tech game grant mccaslin got on the mic and talk to the students um and and then there was some messaging on the video board there wasn't anything being said it was preemptive yeah um and it was hey cheer cheer for you don't make it about anything else and all that stuff but yeah it's uh it's unfortunate i mean and and that's the crazy thing is about sports the reason we love it so much it makes people feel emotions and makes people say things act certain ways that they would never act like or say in any other walk of life and it's kind of what we love about it right it makes us all but but this is some of
Starting point is 00:26:48 the negative that comes out of it and that's very unfortunate the the emotions elicited are in many ways good for business on our end let's be very blunt about that like the emotions that this and these sports can oh the passion yes yes that's good for business for us because it causes not the chance that's not what yeah i got what you're saying yes but yeah it can turn very negative like it did at cincinnati following the colorado incident etc but like i said i've been appreciative that i've had fans i feel like from almost every big 12 program out there reach out and say hey we got b yu's back on this because i think i think what you're seeing with this league honestly is that it's this is a weird word that i never thought i'd use but it's very collegial
Starting point is 00:27:28 I mean, there's a lot of, you know, same as here. You're kind of, we're in this fight together, and you're, yes, you're trying to beat each other at different sports. But I do think that the fan base is large in part take up for each other in some ways or empathize or sympathize, whatever you want to say. But, yeah, I don't disagree with your point there, Jake, at all. I would say on the same kind of note, it was a couple weeks ago, but there was the Texas Tech's Barber's wife situation where she had a bad accident. help and I saw a lot of big 12 fan base to come out and and BYU to your credit Jake came out in full force and oh the food pantry thing yeah the food pantry Cincinnati yeah it like I feel like on the whole the conference is very much
Starting point is 00:28:11 supportive well that that's mainly BYU but that BYU may have brought that as someone who got the conference when BYU got there I don't know a conference in the other way right like that may be this kind of we're all in this together kind of action as much I want to say something silly but like I'm thinking for Calvin Sampson or whatever like I think That is a cool aspect to cover this conference. You should be thankful for Kelvin Sampson. I would love one. I would love one up on the Hudson, Utah.
Starting point is 00:28:38 You would love a Calvin Stanton right now. We, 100% Houston would not be in the conference on it. I wouldn't have this show if I'm never going to be serious about thankful for Kelvin Sampson. I can wholeheartedly tell you when BYU joined the conference, I thought that we would never experience this again because the Big 12. I always viewed as a conference that didn't, you know, dive into this stuff. So it is disappointing to have multiple fan bases within the conference doing this to a university in your conference.
Starting point is 00:29:08 I don't get it. And you think eventually the world would get around. All it does is make your fan base look absolutely ridiculous. Just look around and say anything else. Yeah, there's a common theme there, though. It's because BYU is winning. Yeah. In both instances, it's like it's like the fan base is to a club.
Starting point is 00:29:27 you ever played spades before yes yeah absolutely two of any any suit is the worst card you're going to have right and it's like okay i'm getting beat there's nothing else i can say so i'm just going to try to take a shot i mean that's but that this is sports man this is what it brings out the best and worse than people unfortunately all right so uh before we wrap i've got to wrap it up i think mp and borber the only ones have not given us what they're thankful for on this you know week of thanksgiving so what do you what do you boys got before we go here uh i'll go first i mean personal life we're getting some silverware and stuff from the from the the shower right we just had a wedding shower so we're getting i'm no longer using paper plates and plastic forks so that's
Starting point is 00:30:05 exciting um i'm thankful for the one year last year that Travis hunter and shradors handers gave us because what a high moment that was um don't know if we'll ever replicate that again and i don't know if the coaches know how to replicate that again but it was a fun year all right mp what do you got for us yeah i'll try to keep it pretty brief but uh you know i i i just As you guys know, I'm very open about my life and probably too much so at times. But, you know, to be living the life I'm living now was nothing but a dream, nothing but a freaking dream, you know, 10 years ago, 20 years ago. So for me, I remain grateful every single day that I get to talk into this mic about sports. It's something I value.
Starting point is 00:30:53 And I'm very grateful for. I'm grateful for you guys. obviously can't be more grateful for West Virginia in the state of West Virginia. And Mountain Dew. So I'm going to be from there. Mountain Dew, baby. Yeah, that's right. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Well, I hope everybody has a fantastic Thanksgiving, no matter where you're tuning in from. Thank you for supporting all of our shows. Honestly, we couldn't do it without any of you out there speaking just generally across the Big 12 and have a fantastic Thanksgiving. Enjoy the three Fs, as I like to say, faith, football and family. And we'll catch you guys next time. Food. Food is one.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Food's an app. Okay, yeah, four apps. There we go. There we go. But we'll have plenty more on our individual shows. Make sure you check out the Lockdown Big 12 Squad every week. His Drake likes to say right here on the Dose Grande Squad.

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