Locked On Jayhawks - Daily Podcast On Kansas Jayhawks Football & Basketball - BIG 12 SQUAD - What Analysts Say About the Kansas Jayhawks Ahead of Week Thirteen

Episode Date: November 20, 2025

Utah and BYU deserve College Football Playoff spots over Notre Dame and Alabama. Is the committee finally ready to respect Big 12 football?Drake and the Locked On Big 12 Squad break down the latest CF...P rankings controversy, with JT Worcestershill defending Utah's dominant 35-point average margin of victory against critics who favor traditional powers. The panel analyzes Texas dropping seven spots after three losses, TCU's Sonny Dykes facing a hot seat, and Kenny Dillingham's future at Arizona State despite calling it his "dream job." Key discussions include whether the Big 12 can land two playoff teams, how conference championship losses will be evaluated, and why SEC teams with identical records get home playoff games while Big 12 champions don't. Jeff Car, Nick Maravettes, Cody Stovall, Parker, and Darian join the heated debate about conference bias and playoff positioning.Tune in for insider analysis on coaching carousel speculation and the Big 12's uphill battle for playoff respect. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 J.T. Wistersell called me crying. And he said, Utah deserves a college football playoff spot over Notre Dame and Alabama. And you may think he's a crazy person, but I think he's right. This is the Dose Grande Squad. You're talking ball with the Big 12 squad. From Oklahoma State to Utah, from Kansas State to BYU. From Houston to Texas Tech, it's the local experts of the Lockdown Podcast Network, bringing you scoops, breakdowns, and the most comprehensive preview,
Starting point is 00:00:30 of the upcoming big 12 weekend buckle up it's the big 12 squad and we have a seat for you know her feelings and thin skin allowed squad up you're part of the big 12 squad cabal happy thursday night everybody welcome to the big 12 squad that is jeff car of locked on bear cats talking all things well what's left of cincinnati there's kevin borba of locked on buffs with deon sanders still very squarely the head coach fret not and nick merivettes of locked on cyclones good again question Mark, there's J.T. Westerstall of Locked on Uts, has been good, just lost to two top 10 teams. And Cody Stovall of Locktown, Oklahoma State has been bad. But if you ask Chris Climmon, Stillwater's a very hard place to play.
Starting point is 00:01:12 And Kansas State, similar to Tulsa, was lucky to get out of there with a win, right? It's very challenging to do. It's fair. I'm locked on Big 12. If you hit subscribe, we can keep our jobs. JT., let's start with you then. I'm not crying. I'm not crying.
Starting point is 00:01:28 See? I'm good. You've dried it up, proud of you. Your Wi-Fi seems great. Your microphone's working as well. We'll see how long of that lasts. I mean, I'll let you speak on behalf. Honestly, so I said on my show earlier this week that it's kind of like Utah and
Starting point is 00:01:40 BYU, you're almost holding hands in the situation where they are, Utah is the barometer. Like, BYU can't drop past them. So as long as they stay up, then BYU is going to be that one tick above. But I just think that both teams are still undervalued, considering the two lost teams ahead of them, haven't really beaten anybody. The two, Oklahoma hasn't beaten anyone? They just beat Alabama. I'll probably give you Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Do you want to make a case against Mike? Do you want to help somebody else here? Well, let's go. Well, Notre Dame, I mean, yes, they have two losses, but they were too incredibly close lost to really good team. They looked like they belonged on that field. You do have to reward someone for playing good competition. I don't have an issue where we're with where you're lost.
Starting point is 00:02:20 I don't have an issue. I know, but they, but they've also dominated teams, which is something like in this instance. They dominated nobody. Who? Notre Dame. Exactly. Notre Dame hasn't dominated anyone.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Notre Dame hasn't dominated. They just dominated. Nobody because they played no one. They played no. Said he wanted to lose by a hundred. BYU beat Colorado by three. BYU went to overtime with Arizona. If they are among the top 10 teams in the country, they should be higher.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Let's look at scoring margin. Did you not just watch Texas A&M play? I did, but Texas A&M also has some good wins on the season too. And they're undefeated. When you're undefeated, you get that cushion. Hence why BYU was ranked higher when they were undefeated. You lose, you get penalized. And not just a loss, too, they got blown out, Drake.
Starting point is 00:03:02 It's also crazy that you called, said, I was the one crying, because I saw as soon as these committee rankings come out, you're the one talking about our Oregon is overrated. How is Oregon overrated? They're in the top five in scoring offense and top 10, and scoring offense and defense, top five and scoring margin. This is a really good Ducks team. BYU got blown out.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Oregon has not gotten blown out all season long. I want the BYU, BYU, BYU, Utah, Utah to be higher. Oregon lost by double digits at home against the top five. 10, BYU lost by double digits on the road. Don't do that. They lost by 10. They lost by 10. Once it gets double digits, I give up.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I give up after double digits. I stop counting. That's how old. Y, you got, there you go. There you go. There you go. I just, I, yeah, Oregon didn't look good in the Indiana game at home. Again, I think a BYU plays Texas Tech at home.
Starting point is 00:03:46 BYU's three turnovers away from at least being a 10 point loss, right? They didn't score until the fourth quarter. Yeah. And Utah scored 10 points, too. Like, I think there, I would agree that Texas Tech has head over heels better than anybody else in the Big 12. At the same time, I think Oregon's getting loved for beating no one, for beating no one. Their best win is still Northwestern. Iowa.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Iowa was unranked. Iowa's five and four? No. NYU has one ranked win. Iowa State beat Iowa. We're all beating Iowa. It was. That was the healthy Iowa state team back that where they were.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Oh, my God. Are you also on the camp of like, well, that was them then and this is them now? Well, Nick, was Iowa State not better when they were healthy? Is that breaking news? It doesn't matter. Iowa's always terrible. That's the point that matters. Hey.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Hey, Parker. The good news is Iowa beat Xavier in basketball. We hear in. It was a basketball season now, Jeff. Is that where we're at already? I need y'all to win this weekend. You're already talking about basketball. So, too, T, T, you're fine with where Utah and BYU are ranked and who the ranks behind.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Yes, I absolutely am. I think it's fair. Alabama has way more impressive wins than a BYU. than a Utah. If BYU had one win. FEMA has that win at Georgia, at Georgia, no doubt. That's their only win. Missouri, Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:05:05 They're still top 20, Missouri. BYU is part. Drake, what are BYU's impressive wins outside of Utah based on what you're qualifying as impressive wins? The Arizona Roadway looks really good right now. You're going to say the Arizona win looks good, but devalue the Tennessee game. The one and the same.
Starting point is 00:05:21 You're not one in the same. You're not one in the same. I think you're missing two things, But one, I think you're really missing is that once you go from a 14 to a 12 team playoff, you're talking about teams that have a shot to win at all. And it's more about qualifying for the dance at this point. Because I don't mean to spoil this for anyone. There are never 12 teams that can win at all.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Like that's that will always be. The country won last year. That's four spots away from being 12. That's not 12. And that's what I'm saying is like it's it's never going to be. So the goal is to get in the dance. You need to have like a resume count. And, like, having one loss in a powerful conference is a resume.
Starting point is 00:06:00 That, like, it's about being good enough to get in that dance. It's not that there's ever 12 or 16. Notre Dame went to the national championship last year and lost in Northern Illinois. They had a bad loss. It doesn't mean they're not. They were the second best team in college football. And, and, uh, BYU's resume this year is every bit as impressive as Notre Dame last year, if not more.
Starting point is 00:06:19 I like, more, more. Notre Dame this year especially is especially, is especially, to it. J.D., I believe, based on this, we love the Fugazi of the eye test, I believe Utah could go toe to toe with anyone in the country defensively. I think Utah's defense is that. I think Utah, Indiana neutral site is a ball game. I think it's a ball game, man, you know, like, and they're ranked 12th, and they're going to get booted for Tulane. Why are you not upset with some of this? Because I think every other team ranked above them could also be right there with it. Like, why should Utah get to all of a sudden move up? What, you want Utah head of Bama? I guess that's
Starting point is 00:06:54 the only team we can put them ahead of, right? That's the argument. That's right. Utah's better than Bama. You heard it here first. I think if Cody's saying that, he really means it, by the way. Exactly. True. I think that if we're going to already allow two lost teams to be ahead of one lost teams, as we've proven we're going to do, that at that point, Utah could be above Oregon. Resumey-wise, Utah could be above Oregon. They could be, but Oregon has been incredibly impressive, dominated everyone. And also, I'll say this, Oregon, let's see against USC this week, right? Like, This is where they have an opportunity to get a USC team that I think is really good in rising. Look, this is where I'm glad that we have the context of saying, hey, there's two loss versus one loss,
Starting point is 00:07:31 but their schedule's been much easier so far on the season. Drake, BYU, you played no one in the non-conference. That's going to hurt that. So what you're saying is the Big Ten schedule means that they deserve to be ahead of Utah. I mean, that makes sense. Well, in this instance, yes, well, this instance, yes, it does. But the Big Ten, JT, St.J.T. Utah's road winning in Cincinnati by one million points.
Starting point is 00:07:54 They invented a new number of points to win by. That is better, leagues better than any win Oregon has. And Oregon played no one in the... Oregon played an easier non-conference than BYU. Sorry, Cody. I look back on that Iowa win. That's going into the Cyclone's house, getting a win there. That was incredibly impressive.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Cyclones? Or, excuse, Hawkeyes. Thank you. Yeah, there we go. This is a cyclone state, though, right now. That is maybe the most disrespected I've ever been. you also have to think about the SEC is still going to play itself out right these teams still have to play one another um Oklahoma has to play LFU um Alabama has to play Auburn like these aren't ranked matchups but
Starting point is 00:08:32 the rivalry matchups name two teams that have already fired their coaches have we not seen teams get frisky at the down the stretch on the rivalry week risky hey we got frisky on Saturday not we we wait we didn't have rude yet we weren't ruge yet ready but we were frisky I think that's the issue, though, right? Like, the losses for us to count differently. They count differently for the SEC. Whether fair or not. Well, it counts differently for Notre Dame.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Notre Dame's best two wins are losses. Their best two wins are losses. I mean, I've seen that. Auburn drank like 24th. They're the best four and five team I've ever seen. FPI has Utah above Texas Tech, which is hilarious. The real question is if Georgia Tech beats Georgia, does Georgia Tech jump into playoff? That's not large probably does it knock Georgia out but also do they jump in it won't
Starting point is 00:09:24 Georgia out but it would definitely put them in it would have to I don't know yeah has to play at Austin so that's gonna be a tough one like although Texas has looked terrible against they look terrible against Georgia like all these teams have at least one remaining matchup like they play I mean they're playing their local high schools this week but next week is when it gets real and so a lot of these teams are going to have their season dashed by a team with nothing to lose. Like that is the goal of Auburn, the goal of LSU, the goal of a lot of these schools is to ruin seasons. And we are getting to that point of the year. And not a lot of these
Starting point is 00:09:57 schools have room to like to for room, I guess. Yeah. If Oklahoma loses, you're going to see BYU and Utah jump. That's a good conversation. I need to tell you about Fandul as well. Also, on that track, Texas dropped seven spots. BYU you drop five after a road loss against the top five team. That helps the big 12 locked on big 12 squad. Today's show is brought to you by Fanduel, and hopefully some sort of headache pills. Thanks, JT. The NBA is back. There's no better place to get down on the action than Fandul.
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Starting point is 00:10:49 Fandle, the official sports betting partner of the NBA, is Fandul. Go to fandle.com and do it today. Love the point there about Georgia Tech. And even, you know, like if we see Texas beat A&M, right, do they jump ahead? I thought it was very valiant by the committee who now has an SEC. Sorry, guy, on behalf of my athletic director, sorry, guys, that he can't behave outside of work at all. and embarrass the Big 12th. That's why I bet.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Does he behave at work too? Is that implied there? Is that true? I can't even dress correctly. It's kind of a trap. He basically assaulted a player for wearing the wrong undershirt. So where does he behave
Starting point is 00:11:30 would probably be the better question. I don't think he behaves, actually, now that I think about it. I don't know if he ever has. So, sorry about that. Sorry. They appointed an SEC athletic director to be the head of the board of the chair now.
Starting point is 00:11:43 And I thought, you know, BYU dropping five spots was a little violent, but not. the worst thing in the world could have been much more could have been much worse in years past maybe it would have been the way they lost to texas tech i thought texas dropping seven spots to 17 beautiful for the big 12 pretty impressive the committee put their foot down for a three loss team well so it's like they actually uh viewed texas from their merit as opposed to just them being a massive brand go figure that one yeah i think they looked at and i sort of feel like this is what
Starting point is 00:12:13 what's hurting b yu to tie this back to the first segment is they're looking at how bad they're losing right. Texas got blown out by Georgia. The game against Ohio State was close, but it wasn't necessarily close to the very end. And then against Florida, same thing. Like, it wasn't a close game. So Texas has proven to be not as reliable as their brand would like to think they are. Yeah, and even the win against Oklahoma, right, that's a hurt mater. Like, that's why I'm okay with Oklahoma moving up as far as they did is it's like they had a hurt quarterback, John Mattier, looking better, looking healthy, and they deserve to be rewarded for that win versus Texas. We look back, yeah, you got a good
Starting point is 00:12:47 win against a Vandit, in my opinion. But like you guys said, like how you win and lose these games has to matter when we're measuring teams by narrow one to two loss margins. And I think it's good that Texas plummeted because it feels like this archmanning train can finally be put to a halt, at least for this season. They also almost dropped that Vanderbilt game, but I love that JT is always talking about backup quarterbacks. It's every week.
Starting point is 00:13:07 I love it. I love it. You can't fault the team of backup quarterback. Also, what happens to Texas A&M and Utah and BYU if Texas beats Texas to say an M in that last week. Like that really has to throw a rent. You're okay. I think we're okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:24 If that happens, just because today we proved that. Okay. Also, making his appearance in the second quarter after half time, just like the TCU Hornfrogs, Daring. You kind of nailed that entrance. On brand, on brand, guys. Are we, are we in fire the coach territory, Daryan? Oh, yeah, no, 100%.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Oh, wow. Yeah. No, let's, let's not, that's not sugar-coded. Now, is TCU there? We'll see. But everybody else who is not, no, no, not just me. Literally everybody who isn't a decision-maker is there. But we'll see what the, you know, I think, come on.
Starting point is 00:14:00 I see Baylor here. I think we know about feeling like it's time to make a decision, and then it just doesn't happen. No, no, no. It's been time for like four years. I don't, trust me. I've been here. Daring did not have the same from Drake that I got when I said that off-air. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:14:14 She would love to be Sunny Dykes' last game in Power 4 football. Houston would love that. Houston will win, too. That's kind of a. Can I just say really quick? When's that happening? It's 23 right now, baby, 23, 23. And they don't, when they don't lose to West Virginia, then we can start talk about them as a
Starting point is 00:14:34 playoff team. Hey, how much you beat that sometime? You've 0.15, JT. Oh! This is supposed to be your best. This is supposed to be your awesome season. You had all the hype train on you guys. It's year two of a course.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Coach, what are you talking about? Who was going to? You told us we were all wrong about Houston. I'm sorry, you told us we were all wrong about Houston that they were going to be in the Big 12th title race and they were going to be a contender. And just when they start to do it, they have an abysmal off. They have an abysmal off. They have an abysmal.
Starting point is 00:15:00 They have a head coach. They have a, what are you talking about? And no one thinks they're a contender. And no one thinks they're a contender. Does anyone here fear Houston right now? Yes. Well, I do play them this week. So I'm going to say.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Who have two people on the screen. What are you? talking about and you lost to west Virginia and have not been in per and have not been impressive in some of your other games on the season you went to overtime with an organ state team that is dreadful they too who pooped in your cheerios before this episode buddy really you know i was just going to bring back the tccc you where's tc u where's the tc u job rank if they do fire sunny dykes that's just i feel like something to consider right there with baylor in the dump yeah i don't think it's high and there's a lot of so that's the i heard
Starting point is 00:15:44 the name Eric Morris from UNC thrown out earlier this week. That's weird because he's also coaching at Oklahoma State, Baylor. He'll likely be at Penn State. I've heard his name thrown around Auburn and every other time. So AI helps everything. People don't want to fire Sunny Dykes simply because they don't think that they'll get a good coach this cycle. Like that's the only reason people
Starting point is 00:16:04 ever talk about not firing the coach. So last year there was only four coaches, four coaching spots open. So like you kind of, Dave Aranda's probably hoping for the same thing where it's just like, be solid enough to where they can't fire me and then maybe improve next year? Yeah, I think that's, I think that is the hope, honestly. And I think, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:22 I just get this feel that they, they're not going to pull that trigger. I don't know. And if Dykes gives them any reason not to, I think they won't. So I see two more opponents on here. I see Houston. I see Cincinnati. If he can win both of those games, I feel like he's probably going to save his job. And I mean, I said that same thing last week, but I didn't really believe it last week.
Starting point is 00:16:41 It was kind of a fight dream. So it was like, if you beat BYU, it was such a pipe dream that it was the only game you needed to win to save your job because no one thought you could do it. But if you win these next two games, I think that they'll find a reason to keep them around. Yeah. Great point. Makes sense. I mean, I only disagree because I think that some of the coaches who have been fired, like Mike Gundy, would still be good coaches. That's why I still fire my coach here is I get to go after some of these big names that lost their jobs. I mean, there are, they're putting, like, look.
Starting point is 00:17:16 That's what Virginia Tech just did. Yeah. Yeah. They fired the coach. Hugh Fries. Gary Patterson? No. No.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Gary. Gary Patterson. He's trying to get me in trouble, man. He's trying to give me a trouble. The fan base would riot or not riot. Daryan. TCU head coach at Orgeron. Oh.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Well, that'd be a fun one. TCU head coach Kenny Dillingham. It'd be fun. How do y'all feel about... Bring Sam Levitt? Does he break Sam Levitt with him? How do y'all feel about that? Dillaham and Levitt started to go to LSU.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Levitt's already linked to Texas Tech in Miami. So he's already been shopped around. And so, I mean, I think that shows that Kenny Dillingham's leaving. Miami's got a history of doing that. I mean, you see the relative of his, I was like, no, uh, Naco's. That's not what I said. And they said, like, we haven't decided. He's crazy out of Texas.
Starting point is 00:18:10 He's like, we're not officially doing that. We're just thinking about it. And he just, he just, proved further that he has, that he's open to all options. Oh my God. That's his agent and his brother. I think,
Starting point is 00:18:21 I mean, NILA jeans are interesting people. They take like 70% on the pay and they don't know what they're talking about half the time because they're just friends or family members. If Kenny Dillingham really left, it would be crazy considering how emphatic he's talked about like I'm Arizona State.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Okay. This is my dream job. This would be a part about college football coaching. Every coach is at their dream job until another job comes. Like, I know, but like, every job had more money, more resources. Like, he could really tap out to Arizona State. Like, last year could have been the peak for Arizona State.
Starting point is 00:18:52 So where does that leave him? Rich Rodriguez, not Rich Rodriguez. I always thought that Kenny was a kind of guy that would stay at Arizona State for two decades. But if you look at what just happened to Mike Gundy, the loyalty aspect of it in this new business is a little bit different. So perhaps Kenny Dillingham understands that sometimes it's better to get out while you're still a legend, as opposed to being the villain that Mike Gundy now is. If I may as well, if I, if I'm Kenny Dillingham, I look at my athletic director and say, give me more money for NIL, give me more money, give me more infrastructure.
Starting point is 00:19:24 And he says, I can't. I look over at Texas Tech and say, hmm, I can't compete in this conference. And I leave. I go to the SEC or they're going to dump money into your program. He also may have said they're on your way out by succeeding too early. Like the Mike Gundy thing is very real here because like what happens if he doesn't succeed at that level he did last year? Do they run him out of town because they're used to that one season? Well, and they run him out of town in a year where there aren't as good a jobs available,
Starting point is 00:19:48 whereas right now you get tech or Miami, like you mentioned. I think Miami's deal is like, it's all Cristobal because they've got everything else set up. And so, like, I think that's a great gig, too. Not that I want to run dealing him at the conference, obviously, but like, that's right there for. No, I think Jeff was about to make a really good point there. Commercial break. Jeff, what were you saying? I was going to say you're either on your way out or you're on.
Starting point is 00:20:12 on your way up. That was it. That was the whole damn thing. I just took a commercial break. Nailed it. I made them wait for that. It's the Batman thing, right? Like, you're either the hero.
Starting point is 00:20:23 You either die the hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain because I don't think that's a hard. I think it's, I don't think it's now. I, I, I think it comes to when it comes to college coaching, like you either get that investment and you win and you get picked over by like a handful of schools. Or you're fired.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Like, you don't really stay. I would say Matt Campbell is the long-term hero. He's maybe one of only a few, but you've got a few of them left. Well, anyway, and Witt and J.T. Cravis, Witt stayed long as to be the villain, because he's probably the next closest, right? Yeah. Yeah, in terms of that, I guess, yeah. That's fair, too.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Like, J.T., think about if Utah, they didn't, obviously, I'm just thinking, if Utah, they did last year, went five and seven, Whittingham has fired that Gary Patterson style. and it's like, oh, shoot, he's probably a statute coach, but also bad taste and mouth goodbye. I don't know if I would have fired him. It's different. I feel like because of what he's guided them through.
Starting point is 00:21:21 But you're right. I mean, Gary Patterson guided them through a lot and got canned. So we'll see. I can also just say really quick, Arizona State is ranked. That's the one thing that is funny. We're talking about that down here. And they're currently ranked and they're without their starting quarterback. Like, it is crazy what Kenny Dillingham still continues to do there.
Starting point is 00:21:35 And I think that's why he is a very attractive candidate, right? Didn't Utah become 40 to 10? That's a ranked win, I think. So they're ranked. But it's not as good as Notre Dame, Utah doesn't deserve to be above Notre Dame, huh? But JT has asked about ranked wins or something earlier, a resume or something. Anyway, someone. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:52 But to JT's point a little bit here, man, Houston really didn't have a rough big 12 schedule. I'm a Houston stamp. I picked them at 8 and 4 preseason. I was right that they were going to be insanely good. That was me. I mean, hand up. Hey, I know ball. But we said that in July, Drake, you and I both, like, part of the reason they got a bunch of wins this year
Starting point is 00:22:11 because the schedule is fairly friendly, right? But it is also a year-two of a rebuild. They've got the highest-ranked recruiting class in school history coming in. I mean, like, it's all working upwards, but part of the reason was the schedule. They are at eight wins. Like, they're doing the thing, too. You have to do it even though it's the front of you.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Yes, they're winning games, but I thought you were talking about them accomplishing. You talked about Connor Wigman and the Heisman race and all these things, too. That's also just what I'm saying. Hey, man. Dude's a homer. I love it. We had seven home games, and we can't win flipping fracking nothing. You win the battle of the trend.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Yeah, exactly. You started the trend. Yeah. Houston's a weird team. I think Houston is a weird team in the sense that like they win games like JT said. But it's kind of like BYU, except they don't just keep winning. They lose to West Virginia, right?
Starting point is 00:22:58 Like where we talk about BYU having close wins, but they just find a way to grid it out. I feel like I've seen Houston do that quite a bit. Might I think Houston is a talented team. Like I think they're talented. I think that J.T. and Parker having two kind of different conversations where Parker is saying, look at where we are and look at how we're ascending, true.
Starting point is 00:23:14 But then JT saying, are you a contender right now, yes or no? Are you a force in the Big 12, yes or no? So it feels like two different conversations, really. Valid? Darien makes it wonderful point. Way too level ahead for the squad show, Darian. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Yeah, what are you doing? Get out of here with all that lot. So we were a second or two away from doomsday scenario. Sorry, Parker, of Houston being nine and one, right now. What would we do with that? Well, actually, don't talk yet. Sorry. I realize what we're going to do with that. You know how great it would have been if 10, no, 11 and 1 Houston and 11 and 1 Texas Tech went to the Big 12 championship and BYU and Utah back door their way to the college football play out because they didn't have to play in Arlington. That actually would have been really good,
Starting point is 00:24:04 like lead block from the left guard. Like pulling left guard, here comes, here comes Houston getting eaten. by Texas Tech and BYU and Utah just slip in at number nine and ten. That's rich right there. Can we talk about something really quick? I thought was actually very concerning for the Big 12 tonight. Did you guys notice how the new CFP chair answered the question about how teams will be viewed who play in a conference championship game? He gave the crap answer.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Like he basically said nothing, but he absolutely in his answer basically implied. Like, yes, a conference, you can get a negative strike on your resume even if you make a conference championship game, which is a concern for a Big 12 because it doesn't mean 11 and 1, BYU, if they were to lose a gift. blown out again, they would be taken out of this. Or if Utah gets in there and they get blown out or something, like, but any teams, it's just not a, this is where it hurts. Like, I don't feel like the Big 12 is in a great position to get two teams in right now, because I think Tech is going to win the Big 12 title and someone's going to get another loss, and that won't be good.
Starting point is 00:24:56 100%. But it's at the president with SMU last. The committee does value the Big 12 more so than in the years previously. I don't know that it's going to hold up, but as it sits now, I would say that the committee seems to be giving the Big 12 at least enough of an ability to get two teams in. So we'll see if it holds. I don't think it happens. I gave Parker an opportunity to speak and then I cut them off.
Starting point is 00:25:19 I'm sorry, Parker. No, we were talking about a West Virginia loss earlier and I was going to point out that context, people forget. Is it like they lost a fairly influential coach to cancer that week and played 11 a.m. the day after Thanksgiving. But that always gets lost in the context of that West Virginia game. Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Thanksgiving. Halloween. I mean, sorry, I haven't slept in a long time, but I'm here. Teaching and coaching, baby. Dary, you don't think the Big 12 can get to it. I think they can, but I don't think it happens. Like, I just, I wonder, because mind you, like I said, showed up late, second quarter. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:53 I missed the beginning of what you guys had to say. But I feel like Texas, I feel like Oklahoma winning was like the worst thing for the Big 12. It was terrible. So now you're looking at Oklahoma that plays LSU and Missouri. If I'm not mistaken, LHU. Missouri, I think. Yes. If Oklahoma gets in, you start going through the numbers, if we didn't have automatic qualifiers,
Starting point is 00:26:16 if you didn't have to guarantee that the ACC team is going to get in, if you didn't pretty much guarantee G5 is going to get in, then yes, I think we have a conversation, but BYU sitting at 11 and there's not an ACC team above them, there's not a G5 team above them, which by my math will push them to 13 and not have two teams from the Big 12 in. So I just, I don't know if that of 10, that top 10 changes too much. So I think we have to watch the back end of SEC play. But right now I'm not feeling as optimistic as I did three weeks ago. I just don't.
Starting point is 00:26:49 If you're in the SEC and your only two losses are the number 11 team in the country on the road and the number five team in the country at home, yeah, obviously that SEC team makes it in. No doubt, 100%. They're probably a seven seed playing a home game. But in the big 12, woe is you, two lanes in and you're not. Jake Retzlaff is a play. playoff quarterback and Bear Bachmeyer and Devin Dampeer or not. I think it's the G5.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Like the automatic qualifiers is what's going to kill. I actually think that the automatic qualifiers is what we should be mad about and less about the SEC. As I just go through and look at the SEC, I don't know how many teams I'm poking holes in, but I probably will poke a hole in the ACC champ. Oh, miss? Yeah, maybe it'll miss.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Close, Darien, but the only pushback I'd give there is if not for the automatic qualifier, we get zero in last year. Yeah. I like the automatic qualifier. I'm not against that as a principle. but I do think it's one of the things that may cost a secondary team. So I like it.
Starting point is 00:27:41 I think it makes sense. But Tulane is going to get in because the G5 has to get in. If they didn't, then you probably would see a second BYU or, excuse me, the second Big 12 team in BYU or Utah. So like, I'm with you. I like the principle. But if Texas Tech wins the championship game, I don't think anybody else makes it now.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Like somebody's got to beat them. Feels like in Texas Tech. I should add that qualifier. You're right. if Texas Tech wins the conference. Yeah. I think like if BYU or Utah make it, then they could make it and then, you know, make it into the playoff and then Texas Tech can make it as an at-large.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Don't y'all have, don't y'all have me out here rooting on Utah? Don't you put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby? You know who's not rooting for Utah? The committee, they move Miami over Vandy. If Utah doesn't cover the spread against Kansas State this week, I bet Miami would jump at Utah unless Miami looked bad or lost. It feels like they're trying to get Miami in over Utah right now. Does Miami have one of those cool Citadel games?
Starting point is 00:28:41 I don't think so, actually. I think, no, they actually play Pitt. Well, first of all, I could rant so long on Pitt and Pat Narduzi last week going into the last week's game, the attitude that he had leading into that. Because that's another one. If Pitt could have somehow beat Notre Dame, that would have been good for the Big Tool 2. But Miami's got a couple of games down the stretch. None are amazing.
Starting point is 00:28:56 And, you know, Miami doesn't even, isn't even going to get into the ACC title game more than likely. So it sucks that that could be another at large team with a chance to jump at Utah. And it feels like they're getting in for big brand. because they have bad losses versus Utah and he has good losses. Who's your last game, J.T. Our last game is Kansas. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:14 This is two pretty good wins. Utah, I have beaten everybody about 30 points, 20 points. We average beating teams by 35 points per game, which is the best margin in a country. That's why Utah continues to stay where they are. They're a dominant force, but you also got to beat the good teams, and we lost the two good teams. So at the end of the day, if Utah doesn't get in, they have themselves to blame. Imagine if you had Hoss Haney. what your season would look like.
Starting point is 00:29:37 I don't know, Bird Fickland, man. Y'all look him up if you have it. He's crazy. It's a bird, man. People say, if you have two quarterbacks, you have none unless you're Utah, unless you're Utah. That is the panel of Big 12 people
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