Locked On Jayhawks - Daily Podcast On Kansas Jayhawks Football & Basketball - BIG 12 SQUAD - What Analysts Say About the Kansas Jayhawks Before Week Eight

Episode Date: October 16, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Who has the train? Who's the background noise is a train right now? It's you, JT? God bless America. It's the Big 12 squad. You're talking ball with the Big 12 squad. From Oklahoma State to Utah, from Kansas State to BYU. From Houston to Texas Tech, it's the local experts of the Lockdown Podcast Network,
Starting point is 00:00:23 bringing you scoops, breakdowns, and the most comprehensive preview of the upcoming Big 12 weekend. Buckle up. It's the Big 12 Squad, and we have a seat for you. Know her feelings and thin skin allowed. Squad up, you're part of the Big 12 Squad. Happy Thursday, everybody. Welcome to the Big 12 Squad. Cody Stovall, locked on Oklahoma State's right there.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Parker Ainsworth of Locked on Cougars. And Jake Hatch have locked on other coogers with BYU. It's like a lawsuit issue kind of thing. J-2Stercell is underneath him. He had a train just passing his house as soon as we started recording, which was... We could have redone it. You could have hit the... I thought he was going.
Starting point is 00:01:00 going to redo it. That's why I said punch him in the face. Who else would want to have a redo? That started with so much hope and optimism ends with as disappointing as an outcome as we've seen in recent memory. Yeah. Hey, that loss is, I mean, I don't disagree, but also that loss is aging pretty well, right? Parker knows what I'll talk about. True. Amen. Exact same difference in our quarterback was actually hurt. Last year. And your game also got out a hand way sooner than Ars did. Team that lost Texas said won the Big 12 championship that many you're saying Jeff Carr of Locked on Bearcats. Nick Mervatts of Locked on Cyclones talked a lot last week, so he's on a word count this week. Dary and Gray, the mouth of the south will give you
Starting point is 00:01:35 all things, Hornfrogs, Drake Toll with you of Locked on Big 12. It's okay. So let's open up the forum here to the obviously top 25 matchup in the Big 12 this week. Fox is a big new kickoff. Tobol will start with you. Do you feel like the Holy War has crept into your psyche? Are you seeing it all over your timeline because I cannot escape this thing? I absolutely love it. This is the highlight of the Big 12 slate when it comes to rivalries. So I think we have no choice but to embrace it. Just like we have no choice but to embrace the fact that that game is probably getting overlooked from a television perspective, which is precisely why I hope they put on an absolute battle of the ages that's a double overtime thriller
Starting point is 00:02:17 because I think that's great for the conference. Do you remember that one time, Jake, where BYU missed a field goal, but the Utah students rushed the field. So, BYU got... You mean the three chances they had and they still couldn't win the dang game? Yeah, I remember. And then they still couldn't make the remake of the field goal. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:02:34 And the thing is, it went from like a 50-yard field goal to like a 33-yard field goal and they still couldn't make it. So, you know... Legendary moments for BYU. I remember when we won nine in a row. Those were the good old days. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Yeah. Hey, two, three's coming, buddy. All right. Utah's never beat nine times in a row. Houston. I didn't hear that entirely. What was the fourth phrase? Houston's 5 and O against Utah all time.
Starting point is 00:02:56 That's the phrase. Oh, my gosh. I've never heard one person get more traction out of a 17 to 14 win with a backup quarterback on a road in a season which they're on more games than Parker does. Wait, what do we say about backup backup quarterbacks? Those wins don't count. Yeah, exactly. Some other teams have backup quarterback issues. We saw that with Arizona State this weekend.
Starting point is 00:03:14 That's where I was going with that. That was the sarcasm part of that. Yes, backup quarterbacks are very good. I was told by Utah fans this week. This is, am I right or wrong in saying? and I don't know if, like Nick Marivetz, have you seen any of this on your timeline? Does this matter at all to you? The Arizona State deal?
Starting point is 00:03:31 No, no, no, no, no, no. The BYU, Utah game. Oh, it's not too big right now on my timeline, no. Okay, good. Is yours filled with receipts from when you said that Oklahoma State is more likely to win, to make win go undefeated than Utah is to make a bowl game, and they currently have more wins than Iowa State does on the season? That is a lot of my timeline, which is fair.
Starting point is 00:03:50 I said I'd eat it. I said I would, but the season isn't over yet, so let's not get too far ahead of our season. 10 and 2 Iowa State, I'm being told. Speaking of eating it, I have an announcement at the end of the show. Don't let me forget, right? You're going to have to do it now. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:06 We found the culprit, the guy in Oklahoma State country that said he would shove a plate of chili cheese fries, Eskimo Joe's, up his wazoo. He got a hold of somebody and said that he honestly can't stand the crap anymore, so he'll figure it out. and he will own up to it, and there will be video proof. Can't stand this crap is an interesting way to talk about that. Future guests on the Big 12 squad, apparently, right? I pass it along to my buddy that we had St. Bill Snyder on.
Starting point is 00:04:39 So, I mean, we do make some magical things happen sometimes for people who do magical things through the wrong end. Jeff's new here. Jeff, do you know about this whole thing with Kansas State and St. Bill Snyder? I've heard a few things, yeah, but I will say he's going to have. have to have help with chili cheese fries shoving up his ass because that feels like something that a two-person thing there you got to you know what i try not to ask too many questions at times this is one of those few times that not as many words are necessary i mean i don't even need to see the video i will take uh somebody's word for it but um i think if if it does in fact
Starting point is 00:05:18 happen perhaps we can you know have him throw a brown bag on and and he could be rock and rolling right i don't i'm done with the brown i'm done with the anonymity i want this man's face on the show i want to know who this guy is i want him docks no no more's you guys really think i was going to miss out on the opportunity to dress up and act the fool right here on locked on big 12 scoff you could hear the bag rustling that's what sharon more should have won his head today instead of the blue jacket by the way oh my gosh do we okay so cody you just the sound of your voice maybe think of this UCLA is good now because the new heisel guy with the blonde hair He's a really interesting looking guy, by the way.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Like, that's just an oddly built adult human being. And they're good. Is this proof that any day now, Oklahoma State can just win out? Well, I mean, you lost me at the win out part, but you had me at the win part. I feel like there is a game sometime this year. There's going to be a place in time where we do get to have this legitimate conversation. I feel like one win this season is doable. We have enough offensive creativity.
Starting point is 00:06:21 We've seen baby portions of it against Baylor and also against Houston. If we can string together a good quarter versus Baylor and a good quarter versus Houston, that's two good quarters, guys. That's two better quarters than we've had all flipping season. If we get to halftime and it's a ball game, why not win in Rome? And it's homecoming this week. I mean, crazier things have happened in the bipolar Big 12, and we all know it. Jeff, go.
Starting point is 00:06:48 If the second half, Bearcats show up in the first half, you might have a chance there, but the bearcats have been rolling in the first half. I'm, I'm happy with how these first two quarters are. I do got Satterfield's off the hot seat. There ain't no hot seat. Okay. Okay. So I'm, I'll push back a little bit. And this is not going to have a hot seat too. True. My goodness college football kickoff. I've been told by the way. Oh, a little drop there for Jeff, here's where here's where I get a little bit, what I push back a little bit on that is if, if it's not going to happen. If Cincinnati loses out the rest of the way he might be he'd be fired. There is something to adding a little bit of hope to your fan base that just makes the fallout even worse. It's the Neil Brown effect. Like Neil Brown somehow
Starting point is 00:07:30 delayed but expedited his firing by being kind of good that one year and gave them a taste of what they could be. And then they just sucked ass again. They're like, oh, well, yeah, we got to fire him now. Scott Satterfield is in the danger zone of that, though I think it would take some pretty significant injuries for Cincinnati to fall for the wheel to fall off. For his case, too, like I think he saved himself in 2026. There were a lot of folks were really looking at 2025 as like, all right, you're either going to piss or get off the pot here. And it really feels like we're doing the thing because
Starting point is 00:08:00 this little number next to Cincinnati's, you know, it's tripping us out here. No doubt. If you're getting off the pot real quick, you do know that anybody here, if you lose to Oklahoma State, it's like losing to Tulsa, but worse. Or Northwestern UCLA. Just ask James
Starting point is 00:08:17 Franklin. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, James Franklin to Oklahoma State. Oh. Or I've seen this crazy thing, Dillingham to Penn State. Which one's more likely? Franklin, Oklahoma State's more likely. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:31 I don't think Tony's no even home. Oh, I was just saying, I'm sorry. Like, I think Dillingham's a fantastic coach. Like, I think that would be a good higher for Penn State. I don't want to lose them in the big, although I could argue you want to because they're, they are a really good team year and and year out. But I think that'd be a great high for Penn State. What the hell do you mean year in and year out? You can't beat them once and be like year in and year up.
Starting point is 00:08:48 They're great. 42 to 10. Come on now. They're a great team. I think, though, just like from a cultural perspective, you're going to see Franklin in the side. He's a Vanderbilt guy right in the south. And you're in the team for three years from 2011 to 2013.
Starting point is 00:09:03 But what I was going to say is dealing in the West Coast. He'll wait for a big West Coast job. He feels like a West Coast. What can't he just stay? Yeah. He's, he's, this is the Mike Gunny for Arizona State.
Starting point is 00:09:15 This is the Mike Gunney for Arizona State. Why doesn't he have a? GM, by the way. That feels like if this is a place he's going to stay at, shouldn't they have a GM there, have more resources to help him? J.T. Westersell, GM, Arizona State. It gets clipped all the time, goes viral, builds a lot of, builds a lot of publicity every week. And then I could hire you on as well, because you called Devin Damp here ass. So we would both be amazing talent evaluators together. You can't estimate crowd size because you don't know the end. Oh my goodness. This is spectacular. Coming up, JT's really bad at math. This is the
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Starting point is 00:11:16 Shocking, by the way. 30% of the stands could be Utah fans. No, no. He said like 60-40, which is. Wait, okay, pause, pause, pause, back up, back up. So here's the deal. Like 18 minutes into the show, we were talking about just the game, the atmosphere. And I will say, and I will say, first of all, I meant to say 70-30.
Starting point is 00:11:36 I was just thrown out 60-40. But even 70- what you mean, that's not true. I'll just say this very different thing from what I said. It's a crazy take. I'll just say this right. J.T. I had that clip sent to me. I don't know how many times by Cougar fans saying you got to own him. Ladies and gentlemen, I was wrong. I'm willing to say that. I'm right here right now. I don't know what I was talking about. I was carried away. I was drinking the Kool-Aid of this rivalry. I'm so fired up for this game. I don't know what I was. I was wrong. That was a bad prediction, but I still believe Utah fans will show up at the stadium. This is how bad that prediction was. Guarantee.
Starting point is 00:12:13 No two ways around it. It was that bad. Oh, I'm so glad you caught it while we're alive, too. Like you said, it's the sharp host listening opposite me that episode. I'm just, you know, probably Googling some of the time. Oh, I Googled something. Can I read it? No.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Oh, interesting. Yeah, why not? So the last time a top 15 ranked college football team was at home and not favored what BYU is against Utah was 2023, actually a big 12 match of Oklahoma State against Kansas. I thought that was a very interesting. and I've called BYU overrated. Looks like Vegas might agree with me since Utah's favorite.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Didn't Vegas also have Utah as the best team in the Big 12 preseason? We just established I was wrong. Everyone's wrong. So, okay, but you just declared Vegas as right. Yeah. Who won that Oklahoma State, KU game?
Starting point is 00:13:00 Oklahoma State, well, it was Oklahoma, KU, and Oklahoma did end up winning. Why would you do that? If I could jump across this screen right now and throw punch you, repeatedly, it would be physically happen. You know what? I cannot wait.
Starting point is 00:13:14 There better be a big code media days, AKA I love your face. I'm so sorry. Great. Ariel. Why would you do that? J.T. Because the fact is, it's a bad look by BYU that they're not favored in this game. And I think it should be concerned because it shows. You're talking about a team that left the Big 12,
Starting point is 00:13:30 while your team's not quite in the Big Ten yet, also a bad look. You are as far away removed from the Big Ten as possible, Cody, right now currently. I didn't say us. I know. I'm just saying right now. My friend, all I'm saying is this. There are flaws with BYU when Vegas knows something that's usually where these lines come from. I think that's a cause for concern for the Cougars, the fact that they're not favored.
Starting point is 00:13:50 And yes, I get him credit to keep squeezing by, but you usually can only do that so long. Your Kansas game happens, and Utah's a lot better than Kansas was last year. They're going to squeeze y'all into an ass whoopens, what going to happen. BYU is an underdog in like every game last season for some reason. Vegas was just. And they didn't make the Big 12 title game. They went to UCF last year with a sub 500. nights and we're an underdog on the road. BYU's used to this. They're all for it. They play
Starting point is 00:14:15 the disrespect card better than anybody, even your beloved youths. Yeah, which is crazy we're making this point because I've made so much money on BYU over the course the last two years. You've made money on Utah this year. Yes, I have also made money on Utah as well. Yes, against West Virginia, not against Texas Tech. I did make money technically on Utah by putting the brink struck on Texas Tech, who's an underdog of that game and shouldn't have been an underdog. We're the best team of the Big 12 far and away. But Vegas preseason had Utah. And I don't know, again, I asked this question over and over. How do we go
Starting point is 00:14:44 5 and 7 Utah should be the preseason Big 12 champion? Why did we rank them? Who decided to rank them? Who do we just blow out last year's conference champion? It's a new year. But you told me they had a backup quarterback. And last year I learned the teams can't function with the backup quarterback. Yeah, Arizona State could
Starting point is 00:15:00 not function very well with the back quarterback, but their defense was fine and Utah looked really impressive against them. I have a hard time believing, Jake, if we swap schedules, I don't see our records being any. We would have your record and you would have ours right now wouldn't you agree with that possibly actually that's actually not a bad that you know what there but but that was 15 minutes you weren't facing the freaking bear bro what are we talking about true bear who is what 12 for 29 has the cahones to
Starting point is 00:15:27 wear number 47 at quarterback um this is like he's like that michael irvin and dug flutie together you have to respect it okay without the other stuff that irving does but And Tim Tebow. Well, we did have a coach earlier this year called him a G.D. Centaur. So we'll just go with that. True. I, there was, I knew a guy in college who, his biggest flex, he was like, you know, my dad and I used to go, we used to hunt with a famous NBA player. And I was like, dude, that's dope, actually.
Starting point is 00:15:58 He's like, Carl Malone. No, not dope anymore. Not dope anymore. Don't tell anybody that. It's not a good fun fact. Yeah, that takes a whole new word of hunting. That's a whole different. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Parker, Jake, you walked into this one. You walked into that. It was going to be, and it would have to be, like, one of us was going to say it. You want to make hoops jokes. There's a lot of jazz things we can throw out here. Where's Christian Row? We can, we can do a whole BTK thing here.
Starting point is 00:16:27 We can really, I just watched the Netflix documentary about the daughter of BTK. You guys, you know what, apparently BTK is not as popular as I thought. BTK killer, yeah, we were aware, but JTK, J.T. knows all about this. Ted Bundy and Utah are synonymous. Yeah. What's that is, is that? No way. Wasn't Kaczynski a professor at Utah as well?
Starting point is 00:16:48 Yeah, something like that. Yeah. Did you don't know about any of this? I do not. I'll be honest. Ted Bundy? Really? J.T. What's the connection? I missed the Zach Efron movie, whatever that came out. What's the connection? Not the real life part, but the end of the F's fun.
Starting point is 00:17:04 No, I know. I'm just saying like, he blew up a couple years ago. That was obviously before my time, sir. I don't have the grenade in my beard like you. Take the hat off, J.T. Take the hat off. No, no. What are going to be going on?
Starting point is 00:17:18 Everybody would have had to take the hat off. Can't do that. There's a few hats on the show. I'm just saying. I don't want to blind the cameras. I would get fired. I would get fired. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:29 A little bit more hair than I thought on the show. Okay. J.T. Your turn. Let's go. I'm looking. I said I want to blind the camera. I'm looking this up, though, by the way.
Starting point is 00:17:36 You all can keep moving. Only one of us was coming from a great here. Bundy's done some... You know who Bundy is, right? You've heard of Ted Bundy is. Okay, I did good. We crossed it, but you didn't know about the whole like Salt Lake County thing.
Starting point is 00:17:48 No, I did not. Is he going to be able to stay? Are we leaving this in the episode? Yeah, absolutely. Drake, we're talking about weird things to have in the schools. Can we talk about that whole Waco thing and it was still too soon?
Starting point is 00:17:57 I, I, uh, I had nothing to do with Baylor. Uh, that was completely separate of the universe. What about, what about the, like, player murdering another player? Not, not also, no, that had a lot to do with Bailey. actually that yeah too soon too soon which I think the worst part of that was the cover up of the head coach who was like well the kid's dead so we can blame him for doing drugs right they're like no that's a really I don't know so the weeds of that one are actually wild is so Patrick Dennehy is murdered by Carlton Dodson both Baylor basketball players so after he gets murdered people start asking questions like how does he have the super nice house how does he have a really nice car how does he have all these things he was a broke college kid not even on scholarship so like well Obviously, Dave Bliss, the head coach, is paying him money. And Bliss is like, well, what if we told everyone he was making millions by selling drugs?
Starting point is 00:18:47 And he's dead. So no one can prove it incorrect. And see, which is insane. Yes. I appreciate that Drake is willing to also poop on Baylor though. Like, there's nothing holding Drake back from. Well, it wasn't a good thing. I'm not going to salvage that one, Parker.
Starting point is 00:19:03 And John Lucas helped take us to the final four. So we appreciate you. There was just something. Yeah. And after that, Abar Rauss was an assistant on the – this is actually the saddest part. He was an assistant on the team. He taped. He taped the entire conversation where Bliss was telling the story to the assistant coaches.
Starting point is 00:19:19 He was like, lie, lie about the dead kid. And then Abar Rauss reported him to the police. And he hasn't gotten a job since in college basketball. And I think it was Jim Beehomber coach Sheshefsky on ESPN was like, if one of my assistants backstabbed me like that, he'd never have a job in college basketball. I was like, we shouldn't say that. Which, you know, now there's like the watchdog of media and everything. So the Holy Wars.
Starting point is 00:19:39 coming up. That's pretty cool. Yeah, more of this, I guess. This is the big 12th squad or whatever. All right. Everybody's in on this. Parker, what's your favorite part about Mazda? I actually drive a Mazda, so that's fun. Is that real? Whoa! He got one of those leases.
Starting point is 00:19:57 He got one of those leases, didn't they? Actually, actually is a lease. I will say the I-IHS top safety pick. You have a toddler? That's a win. That's a win. And if you have anything older than a toddler, also a win? I hear that. I hear that.
Starting point is 00:20:11 I text you as well. Nick Marevats, got to love that Mazda. Yeah, that available Napa, leather upholstery. Yeah. JT. What's the country? Where's it from? Japanese, right?
Starting point is 00:20:22 Yeah, it's that Japanese. I'm sorry. Just the read says Japanese. I'm like, John Mugger-Den. Read off the top. I mean, Jeff, would you say that Mazda makes everyday drives you like anything but? I mean, they give you the all-wheel drive to get you out of the sticky spots
Starting point is 00:20:38 that some ad reads could put you in yeah yeah there you go well one day we'll all pull together enough money for us to go to Japanese together we're going to do one big 12 squad trip all of us to see the Mazda factory on the locked on big 12 squad
Starting point is 00:20:52 I think you're going to go sticky spots back to Cody full circle moment with his Eskimo Joe French guy this is great oh yes there we go this is perfect what a set label this a true crime podcast or geography I think we may have to, like, rated PG-13 this one. I don't know if we can have ads on this one for, like, legal reasons.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Hey, Drake, will we be offended that T.C. and Baylor plays, and that's not a robber we talk about. We only talk about the Holy War. Like, does that speak to where we are? Like, come on, guys. Man. No mention of T.C. versus Baylor. Isn't that what you all? It's a great game.
Starting point is 00:21:32 There's no doubt about it. They're rivalry. They don't call it anymore, right? No, it's the Blue Bonnet Bowl. Because they went in there and they're like, you know what, Blue Bonnet Bowl it is. You're like, no, don't do that. They renamed the whole thing. Revivalry was just too much for them.
Starting point is 00:21:50 They were like, oh, this is just too. It was too perfect. Yeah, we got it. That's what I said. And they changed it, which was. You know, State Flower, love. Yeah, but love is not college football. I don't want love in my college football.
Starting point is 00:22:04 And Blue Monnet could be any Texas teams. There's no connection. Didn't they get rid of Farmergaghan? They're trying to. I can't wait for the holy showdown coming up next year. There we do. There we go. What are we doing in this conference with rivalry names?
Starting point is 00:22:20 And I think that's to Darien's point directly is maybe people don't consider the TCU Baylor thing a rivalry, partially because of that. I mean, obviously not holistically, but I mean, it's hard to get excited about the rivalries in the Big 12 because we don't foster them at all. Well, this year, TCU and Baylor are both about them. Well, this year, they're basically playing in the disappointing Big 12 Pretenders Bowl. I mean, I was so in, so, what, TCU
Starting point is 00:22:46 happened to them last year. I mean, both four and two. This dude, beats a crack of quarterback. Your last win against the top 25 team was 10 years ago. Daryon's going to get you. Hold on. Just, hold on. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Whoever loses deserves everything he says. So it's kind of like, like, it's right on the cusp. I can't are you too much? At the end of the day, I already don't know if these two losses are going to be able to keep you competing, right? I think that you're already fighting a losing battle. But once you drop the three, hey, call it. It's TKO time. Once that happens, like, Baylor loses, it's over. TCU loses, it's over. B.TK time, baby. We're out. That's it. Daryan, I take offense to that because we lose every game and we might have a stormbrook.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Cody, it's been over for you. Like, it's been over. So we're just coming to doing. Until homecoming came. And also, I can say whatever because we don't play Oklahoma State. So I don't have to worry about being at one team. I think we wish we all played Oklahoma State. There you go.
Starting point is 00:23:50 So here's the problem with the Baylor-TCU thing is if, if Baylor or TCU lose a football game in the woods, but no one's around to see it happen does it actually count as a loss, that's the problem. No one's at these games. No one, no one cares. These are in and I I don't know if you see the pictures of the Baylor fan base but they don't show up for the games right now They're not they're not
Starting point is 00:24:11 And you get the same excuse in Fort Worth a lot And look the students have been great this year at TCU But the old people don't fill up the upper bowl They don't fill up the full stadium at Amy G Carter And everybody's like oh it's hot Go to college station It's the same temperature in college station Go to Austin
Starting point is 00:24:27 It's the same temperature guys But I mean it's Texas I've seen DKR half empty so many times No, I'm saying, I'm agreeing with you. Like, at this point, to just complain about the heat, I mean, I'm sure you probably live here. Like, you're used to it, you know? Like, come on, guys. I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:24:44 I think you're out there you have to support. I would point out, though, to the Big 12 schools credit here, there are all kinds of videos and pictures out there of different SEC, much larger stadiums also empty in the fourth quarter of close games. Like, this feels like it's frankly more of a, the TV product and all the investment in the TV product. Like it's kind of, they're putting TV cameras in the, in the sight lines of fans in the stands. Like, I think this is actually a bigger, like, we may look at back at 10 years and be, it's a bigger problem than just a handful of fans want to stay home. A lot of problem in Provo or Salt Lake City right now. I'll say that much. Well, that's what happens when you win, I guess, right?
Starting point is 00:25:20 Or have Dion. You either win or have Dion. And in Dion, they have a special tradition at halftime. I don't know if you're out there in Colorado. Ah, it's the Eskimo Joe's thing where they bring the guy out. to the midfield and they do the chili up the butt. No, no, no, this is
Starting point is 00:25:35 talking more of JT's territory. J.T., want you to tell about that. They bring air freshener out, you know, in the middle of the game. Trust me. I was in Boulder three weeks ago. I'm fully aware of what happens at a half time. Oh, but you, but you, we didn't hear you
Starting point is 00:25:51 speaking up, Jake. Why didn't you break it down for everybody out here, huh? I think this is an argument to legalize in every state that has a big 12 school, because clearly it adds to attendance. That's what I'm here. Look, they can't go anywhere after that. Staler won't sell alcohol, and Colorado's already like 17 steps ahead. They're dispensing at the games, at the little vendors just.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Instead of the, instead of like the T-shirts, they don't shoot or they don't. You get one. Okay. Got a good area of effect on that one. I got offered two different opportunities for take on my way to the stadium at Colorado. So, it's, Jake, don't incriminate yourself any further. You're okay. I did not, I did not in hell.
Starting point is 00:26:35 So what we're saying is, he said, don't you know who I am? Texas Tech fans throw pocket knives on the field. Colorado. Oh, my gosh. They shoot dubies up into the stands. That's what you're saying. No. You know what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:26:50 I think the Texas Tech knife thing is such a funny deal. Because, like, breaking news. guy who works at chocolate factory drops chocolate bar like that's go to west texas they it's their job to carry 10 pocket knives at once for sport are you saying it was a mistake somebody i had one tortilla in one hand and a pocket knife in the other and actually threw those who on god's earth is like i'm going to throw my expensive closed pocket knife at you ha someone who was partaking at what colorado's doing that's that's there it is i think there was just one of joey mcguire's 17 security detail who are those massive hats and white t-shirts just drop their pocket knife now kansas
Starting point is 00:27:34 is like this is terrorism i heard it was actually an iL deal where the players are supposed to pick it up and like now you have that that's part of your package right as long as you are not to drag the cc into this we saw josh hypo pick up a golf ball that was thrown at him in in newland stadium and say guys look what i got yep that was who else did that uh kiffin did that a few years ago right But, sorry, Kiffin was golf balls. Sorry, Kiffin's the golf ball. The mustard bottle is high pole. Excuse me, there we go.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Are you saying that if Lance Lippold would have picked that knife up and used it, the TV viewership and the Big 12 would be skyrocketing right now? One hundred and a whole new segment. What a views would be up. Big 12. Those old impressions are up after the account bodied Venables earlier today. That was awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:20 That was crazy. Why would he say that? I have, no. And then he has like an 8 and 10 record, I think it is or something like that against Big 12 teams, too. so it's a bit SEC bias we're seeing it's why college game day is not going to our game this week yeah i'll be there though yes he will be see you there bud taking plenty of flack on twitter for it utah fans are mean why are they didn't you go to the game in my gosh didn't you go that last year i didn't i couldn't have been more complimentary of all of it i thought
Starting point is 00:28:49 it was the coolest thing ever aside from their old j t are utahs going to be the same way when y'all are in the big team i get absolutely annihilated by b yu fans weekly like i We act like, we act like Utah. We act like Utah fans are the only one who attack anyone in this conference. Drake, you put out a picture of their quarterback and called them ass. Yeah, I've been that set with 17 different big 12 quarterbacks last two years.
Starting point is 00:29:12 You know college football fans are not going to forget that. It's my favorite bit. I've done the same thing with A-Rod, but I think instead of A-Rod to put like booty or something, which is exponentially funnier. Like that's booty flakes or something like that. Yeah, I mean, it was very BYU-U-Coded. J.T. Here's the world's smallest violin and it's playing just for you.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Yeah, they clicked on your show. I'm not the one bringing up how mean a fan base is to be. I'm just saying it happens to everyone. They're paying your money. They give you a view. Yeah. I had a Baylor fan put my old apartment in a like a bullseye on Twitter one time. Which rocks.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Wow. By the way. It was an apartment I no longer lived in, but was a weird day. That was a weird day. That was a weird day. That's crazy. Drake, next time you name a quarterback and it upgrades to certified ass cheeks. Please don't let it be a cowboy.
Starting point is 00:29:56 That's all I ask. They play receivers as a quarterback. You're fine. We have wide receivers and tight ends that play quarterback. Oh, I'll take it. Oh, and hold on. We also have a guy who played flag football last year at UCF. He's a quarterback, too, and he threw a touchdown.
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