Locked On Jayhawks - Daily Podcast On Kansas Jayhawks Football & Basketball - BIG 12 SQUAD - What Analysts Say About the Season for the Kansas Jayhawks

Episode Date: December 4, 2025

Big 12 heavyweights BYU and Texas Tech shake up the championship picture as powerhouse coach Kalani Sitake nearly exits for Penn State, triggering a wild flurry of NIL deals and university power plays. Is the Big 12’s new financial arms race redefining the path to playoff success, or will legacy programs like Baylor and Kansas State be left behind? The roundtable debates elite coaching moves, jaw-dropping staff salaries, and the explosive influence of boosters and collectives across the conference.Locked On’s squad of insiders spotlights BYU’s dramatic retention saga, Texas Tech’s bold investments, and why schools like Colorado are facing multimillion-dollar deficits. The hosts question playoff selection criteria, analyze rivalry scheduling strategies, and ask whether the Big 12 committee made the right call in pitting BYU against Texas Tech. Can innovative fundraising and NIL strategies thrust these programs into national contention, or will conference politics hold them back? Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

One of the Big 12's best coaches, Kalani Satake, left. And then he came back. Texas Tech, BYU, Big 12 championship, so many storylines to get to. Why isn't Utah in the big game? We'll cover it all. This is the Dose Grande Squad. You're talking ball with the Big 12 squad. From Oklahoma State to Utah, from Kansas State to BYU.

From Houston to Texas Tech, it's the local experts of the Lockdown Podcast Network, bringing you scoops, breakdowns, and the most comprehensive preview, of the upcoming big 12 weekend buckle up it's the big 12 squad and we have a seat for you know her feelings and thin skin allowed squad up you're part of the big 12 squad happy thursday night no her feelings no thin skin it's just i meant to dare i meant to kick you out of the show and have a big intro for you uh dairy and gray the mouth of the south locked on horn frogs also joined by Kevin Borba, locked on Buffs. Cody Stovall, locked on Oklahoma State.

Christian, wow, no row, locked on Kansas State. He is 17 years old, but he's got his driver's license. Nick Mervatz, can you get a 1099 as a 17-year-old, I think? He's locked on Cyclones, and then the man who had at least seven NFL players in the starting 11 on the offense, but missed a bowl game, Cameron Stewart, locked on Baylor. Chris level There he is The consummate professional

The all-star journalist Covers Texas Tech with Locked on Red Raiders Locked on Texas Tech Is Chris Level They're going to the Big 12th championship Level Let's start with you

Kalanisitake left VYU And then unleft BYU You're the journalist of the group Any thoughts here? Yeah when you have leverage use it Amen Yeah

When you have leverage kids in high school man i think yeah that's right i think he had uh i think he wanted to i think he wanted to have his situation be similar to what texas tech is doing n i'll can i can i pause for that's that's a pro that's a pro right there that's a pro yes he wants to be closer to texas tech i think everybody does here seven million dollars for joey is not that many million if Lane is signing 13 and Penn State was offering 11. Why is it only $7 million? Two things.

One, I think there is easily attainable bonuses that would grow that salary in any given year. Here that game, easily attainable. All I got to do is make a playoff. I also think that the lower number was on purpose to ensure that his staff was taking care of and his players. they're getting 10 to 15 million for nil as well like they're i think about b y you're talking about b yu no that's what i'm saying i mean that this is what i think that he had he had them over a barrel a bit and hey look man 110 000 c stadium in a big league like the big 10 and if if they're 11 and one in that league we're not even having a conversation about you need to win and get in there are it's

already a done deal. And he had leverage and he used it. Good for him. And I think it's great for the Big 12. I did not want to see him leave this league. I think it would have been bad for the league. And so I think, you know, everybody wins here. So, okay, let's, let's pick one. We'll throw a dart at the board. Christian, why doesn't Kansas State do this? Why doesn't Kansas State throw a bag at the football program the way the BYU just did? That's a great question. I mean, you could dig into management on that one. You could dig into, I mean, just the way that right now, Kansas State is they're just pointing their fingers in different directions and hoping something sticks. If you want to talk about darts on the wall, they're more worried about blaming

injuries or blaming the fact that they don't have enough money for that to work. So I think all of these older brands in the Big 12, and if there's one of the older brands in Big 12 that want to step up and say that's not the case, let me know, want to get up to be where the Texas Tex and BYU's are, but they are falling behind. There I say. So, okay, then fine, the dark goes to the board again. Cam, why is Baylor a private university who has the former owner of the Houston Astros in your back pocket? And by the way, Bill Gates, anyone heard of him? Why do we, Jim and Joanna, why do we see Texas Tech and BYU in seemingly their own stratosphere when the big money private Christian schools, hey Darien, can't seem to do the same?

Yeah, I mean, like, this isn't even shade, but like you can ask TCU the same thing. you know, we're, we're pretty similar, except TCU is making, it's just maximizing their talent way better than Baylor is, like immensely. And they still want to fire the coach. Yeah. Their standards are immensely better. Like, I hate this, man. And honestly, I can't believe I didn't think about this till now, but this whole time we've done the squad show, I could have just taken, stolen everybody's takes and used them the day before this came out.

So that it would look like they were stealing. my takes. You know, like, Level had such a back there that I wanted to use on a show. And I was like, technically, I could get that out before this comes out. And so then it will look like Levels just copying me. You know what? I respect you for telling us. Yeah, that's good foreshadow. That's like a year and a half of squad shows. I never picked that up. Is that ethical or is that regret? Like, what is

the fine line your tone right now? He's at Baylor. down with the ethical word yeah yeah yeah how's the athletic director down there doing what's he wearing do we know did you cam did you ever hear was there ever anything come your way about jared mosley at north texas being no not really okay yeah yeah yeah level one came your way let me just report yeah yeah on wednesday show let's go level It level with us, Chris? Yeah, that, I mean, that was... Of course I do, but can you say it like, don't?

Just humor me. Yeah. No, that was a, I mean, I think there was... He would have been number two on my list. Well, I mean, and again, it was a Jared Mosley, Eric Morris package deal kind of thing. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And Baylor said two interim ADs and Dave Miranda are way better than that, baby. And I don't know why.

I just knew that that was kind of the, because Eric was, I think, very intrigued by that option. Yeah. That's what's going to happen. Tell him not a baby. Yeah. But that's not what happened. They're in lies.

And it's an interesting way to start the show on Thursday. But I know for those who are like level for your show, for those who listen to BYU content. Like, there's been plenty of talking about the Big 12 championship. I genuinely want to know. What is keeping, and I think this is what the squad shows for, is to go past the big headline for the week and the hit, what is keeping Darian, Nick, Borba, your schools from pumping $30 million in NIL and saying,

I want to build a Texas Tech roster. Why are you not doing that? Yes, Borba. The Sports Business Journal reported today that Colorado's athletic department is down, projected a $27 million deficit this year. So I don't know if that's, that's necessarily in the cards for them. I think Dionne Sanders, of all people.

But how? He's his own GDP. Like, I don't get it. I just feel like he should be like hitting up his millionaire friends and being like, hey, like, why not give me some money? Like, I think it comes down to fundraising. I think it comes down to alternative ways to get money. Like, although Texas Tech is like the leading standard right now,

they have the most niche fundraising ever because they have a guy who hit it in oil. like not everyone can do that like not a not every program has a yeah 27 million not great right so like not everyone nine million or win you just have to find your niche of like Baylor I don't know how much chip and Joe are worth but like if they were that avid fans like and I would say this too like as far as like TCU and Baylor go um they've had success and big success like Texas Tech has not so that was part of the motivation here to you're a bit starved and like I'm I'm, you know, you just want to, you want to push forward and, like, you know, all these things. And, me, T.C. played for the national championship a few years ago.

Baylor was playing in New Year's Day Bowls and things like that. So, Texas Tech hasn't experienced that. So I think that's part of what the motivation, at least, was here. And, you know, but I, so anyway, I don't know if that, that clears anything up. But I think that that, that's part of why the money was motivated here as much as anything. I think they had like a billionaire. Yeah, they had like a billionaire who was just like wanted someone to be investing. They were like, finally we'll give you money.

Before we get to. Before we get the segment to real quick, Drake, I wanted to say as it pertains to the BYU AD, it's a good thing that they got this thing figured out because I would imagine it. If he screwed this up, Mr. Santiago would have got a swift kick in the nut sack and sent on the rail to the other part of the country. I know he's a basketball guy and I know they got the top basketball player in the country. investing heavily, but you cannot lose Kalani Sataki to the Penn State. That completely dashes any chances of you even being in the CFP conversation. If they beat Texas Tech and Kalanis Sataki's out, that's going to be their justification or it would have been to keep them out of the playoffs.

So it's a good thing that Mr. Siam Tiago figured this out. This is certainly one of the top coaches in the Big 12. This is one of the biggest names you've gotten in this conference. I don't think that's arguable. And I do believe that keeping him is good for the conference overall, but he almost left, and probably for a good reason, let's spend a little time on that because I think the oddity of this story, how weird this thing got over the course of the week, is the most intriguing part. This is the Dose Grande Squaw. Hey, the next show is brought to you by Aura Frames.

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said you sit this one out we are the money pairing with the The church, a whole religion, they decided without the AD, we're going to make sure Kalanisitake is set. Level, you've covered the Big 12 for a long time. We'll go to the journalist again. Is this the craziest six hours, 18 hours of a coaching search we've seen in the Big 12? Well, I mean, I can't speak to the minutia of it like, you know, you or Jake or whoever was in the middle of it. But what you said is actually fairly normal these days as it relates to who. is in charge the folks that are funding a lot of this they have a lot of say they are quote unquote

team presidents or uh you know general managers in a different term or team owners if you will and uh they they are the ones that are making or or involved in most of these decisions uh on a lot of things and so that part does i mean you knew when the crumbled guy was like I mean, yeah, some folks are unreplaceable. Sounds like I need to get to work. Hold my ladle. That's right. So, I mean, that's just how it operates these days.

And administrators at schools have to give way to these folks and let them be a part of decisions, whether they want to or not, because you're in, it's different at some places than it is others, but these, you know, an AD, a school president, you know, assistant AD, whatever, they're figureheads in a lot of ways. But they also are the glue that kind of keeps it together and bring certain people into the mix, depending on what the issue is. But that doesn't surprise me at all that that's, that's the route that they went. Like, hey, let's figure it out. This is the guy we want. We're going to fund it at the end. Okay, so Cody, for you, this coaching search where Eric Morris is the guy. By the way, I think that Oklahoma State's in a better spot than

some SEC schools. You've got a quarterback now running back. You're going to have like Indiana had with their James Madison transfers a basis for winning next year. Is this the AD? Is this the president? Or is this the ghost of T. Boone Pickens saying here's who we're going to go get? No, I think the collective that he's bringing alongside him, speaking of Raj Murty, that is an individual 24 years old. He's a very, very good mind. He got to study football under Dana Holgerson. He's going to going to bring a different level of Nick, aren't you 24? I am 24, yes. I just turned.

So, happy birthday. Good mind. Good mind. Be the next, Marty. Catch up. Yeah, yeah. But I think that we're talking about the finances. We'll have to wait to see if it's true, but we're hearing some things in Stillwater

that Oklahoma State is prepared to spend 18 to 28 mil on this particular roster just because they know they have to influx a crap ton of talent. into this roster, on top of bringing Drew Mestemaker and Caleb Hawkins and Wyatt Young and some of those defensive individuals. I think Oklahoma State is positioning themselves, but it's following the Texas Tech model. And now BYU seemingly is doing the same thing. I think everybody in the league is going to have to do this once, right? Cody Campbell talked about the reason we're going to spend 30 meals because we don't know if we're ever going to be able to do it again,

right? And it got them this roster that has now put them on a pedestal that they're going to be able to utilize to recruit off of so they don't have to spend quite as much in the future. I think Oklahoma State's in that position. Now we're going to spend somewhere between BYU and Texas Tech money just to kind of get everything off the ground. But if you don't have success, I don't think that you can do it again. Oklahoma State's in the same position. We can't give another, say, 25, 30 mil three years from now. If it doesn't work, it's going to go pretty south. And Eric is well aware of how it's being done here. He played with Cody and they're they're friends i mean they've been friends for a long time you could have had that cam yeah that could

have been your head coach right there just letting you know that but you don't even have an athletic director to even hire the head coach do you aren't of course not receiver come on say it say i don't have an athletic director come on say it hey cam did did all of that craziness with the ad do you think that had a hand in some of the day veranda workings sorry i blacked out for a minute what you said If, if, if, if, I said your hair looks nice. Some people are. I know that's not true. Cam, if, if some people are, you know, a little more careful with their marriage, is Dave Randa fired?

Yes. Like, yeah, right? Like, he'd have to be. That's where I'll leave that. And so. Is the Big 12 safe now that's the Bway use coach isn't going anywhere or is Campbell go in the Penn State or is good old Dave Randa? I thought Campbell was going to Arkansas. Campbell's going to Virginia Tech.

Yeah, it's not going anywhere. I know Christian would be devastated if Chris Climman ever left Kansas State. And he would hurt my feelings. Jerome Tang with him. Yeah. If Matt Wells was promoted to head coach, he would hurt my feelings very much, yes. Oh, my, Atlanta. That's the Chris level experience right there.

Before we get to the final segment, level, not level, borrba, let's go to you with the same question I give him level and so ball here is. So we've seen this kind of investment, right? And we've seen the AD passed over in situations. Your head coach is separate the university here. Like your head coach is his own entity, his own thing, his own GDP. You can't fire him. You can't get rid of him unless he leaves.

You're stuck for better or worse. Yeah, I think that's the hard part with the Dionne Sanders experiment is when it goes right, it's great, right? Everyone's watching. You're on national television every week. Even this year, they were nationally televised every week. They haven't won a game in over a month. Shout out Nick. But realistically, you have to be able to have the buy-in from Dionne Sanders.

Because unlike, I would say, the rest of these schools, Dionne Sanders is operating as the czar of the program, right? He has the ability to have his own documentary being filmed. He has the ability to sell his own personal merchandise. He's probably the only coach that's famous enough to have his own personal merchandise. But you have to be willing to get the buy-in from him, and he has to feel that from somewhere else. And, like, right now, Colorado is at a point where he's probably going to have to hire, or excuse me, fire five to six coaches.

They don't have an athletic director yet. So Colorado is a weird spot, and I don't really know how you get someone to invest their money because, and Chris, you could attest to this more than anyone. Like, I mean, Cody Campbell is a little different because obviously he played Texas Tech. But the guys who are giving these programs money, they don't gain anything out of this. They get, like, the satisfaction of like, cool, my alma mater or my favorite school is winning. but like if a program like Dionne Sanders right now, I feel like a lot of people are questioning his buy-in, why would people want to give him $20, $30 million if they feel like he's going to dash any day now? Like that is sort of the big problem and the hold up with Baylor or TCU is like, why give them money

if we don't trust that they're going to succeed? This is exactly what Cody has been dealing with with Mike Gundy. Like, you know, we're, you know, and so the money kind of dried up or like, hey, well, wait on the next guy you know kind of thing yeah you just got to get people to be all in give their money away without yeah as easy as it sounds right just give just give me your money personally i listen to every day baranda press conference and i don't know how they're not giving him the money because he just is spot on with every no idea like what the hell i'm doing you know i have no idea how could you not fund that right fearless leader you think he kept him

It's so unbelievable. 35 and 36, below 500. It's awesome. Coming up, can we get the right two teams? Hey, hey, 36 and 37. Come on. 36 wins. That's one more win.

Yep. And another loss. Coming up, do the Big 12 get the right two teams? Or Utah, a healthy Arizona state. I mean, is BYU-Y-U fools gold? That's what the playoff tweet tells me left on Big 12. D.C. Hey, Lord.

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Fan dual, the game moves fast, and so can you. Fan dual is the exact place to go right now. Fandul, you can play right now. No J.T. Western, so we can have the conversation a bit more on a bridge tier. Do you want me to take my hat off so it feels like JT is here? you're getting close I've seen the hair line and it's not hey if that's dissing JT

that's dissing myself as well can we get a airline review come on do it show only when Baylor gets another flip oh should we just wait until tomorrow to record this I think

I don't even know if you need to wait that long it's the sign of recession at Baylor is having a punter who's up for the Ray Guy award recession that's that's just the ultimate i think was it 20 years ago it's several veda danis sapulveda sapulveda they go what that's his Super Bowl champion you're talking about like two and ten but he wins the ray guy award he's punter of the year he was unbelievable and this year balers this

he was like they're only all-american for like a decade to the ray guy award again for punter of the year it's just it's the sign of the and it might be another decade before they have another all-american it probably will be david was one guy in the NFL from baylor are sick. Did we get it right? Because the playoff committee would say no. Did the Big 12 get it right with BYU being here? This is a virtue of playing teams the right time with an easy schedule with, you know, downtrending Cincinnati or downtrending TCU or ebbing and flowing schools. Is BYU the right product to have in the Big 12 championship? Absolutely. They should have been in it last year too.

They're 22 and three over the last two years. They're 22 and three. And I don't know what anybody would want. The scheduling part, though, is interesting what you just said. Imagine if the Holy War was on rivalry week, how people would think differently about BYU, if BYU would win last week against Utah. And Utah would be a one lost team. They're probably both sitting around, you know, like 8, 9, 10 range. And Utah had given up a thousand yards rushing in the last two weeks.

Drake, get you left to Brett Yomark, make sure he listens to this episode. I don't think Brett Yormark is going to ever listen to anything locked on. on Big 12 squad, but that's, thank you, Cody. Sorry. The Holy War was at the end of the season, and you were playing a fringe college football playoff team like Utah, who, of course, fell down the 15, but still fringe, instead of playing

whoever they played the final week of season, what was it, UCF? Kansas. If you would have played that instead of them, you would have thought differently. You would have thought differently about BYU, just a little bit more in the eyes of the committee. Recency bias is a huge thing.

We all know that. So the risk that Big 12 takes, And here's where I do see what Brett Yormark's trying to do, is if you play a rivalry week, then this weekend of the year, you would either disqualify BYU or Utah. You would take one of the two out of contention for an at-large. If you play them with four weeks to go, they now have the opportunity, as Utah was on its way to doing it and fell apart, to beat teams by 40. And what have you done for me lately? Each of these teams has won three straight, four straight, and that loss is a mulligan.

We can, because we treat a lot of SEC losses. If you build a rivalry week, you can do what you just did to A&M, kick them out of the SEC championship, and disqualify them from an opportunity to have a buy the playoff. And honestly, if BYU wins, there's a chance A&M no longer hosts a college football playoff game either. But did it actually work? Because Utah got beat by BYU,

and then every game afterwards, they averaged 51 points in game, and there's still nowhere to be found in that 12-team playoff. Yeah. Yeah, I think you need the rival. were a week established and recency bias is the most important thing in the cultural ball playoff i don't really care what anyone says like they they adjusted a lot of the teams they put texas over vanderbilt right they made sure to sort of go back and correct mistakes that they

made in the past weeks so had we had that game this past week like christian said bYU probably gets in because we're not this isn't a two-bid league like there's a lot that needs to happen i think elgato joined us for a second sorry i got so upset about iowa being at 23. That's it. That's the first time we talked. You're having 10 and 1, you're having 10 and 1, you're having 10 and 1, Utah, the final week of the season. The winner is probably getting in the college football playoffs, at least. Yeah. What if, what if the big 12th? What if the big 12 did their rivalry week the same week the SEC plays the green puff? Or maybe you just don't have rivalry week in double. Let's start there. What?

Made it a point to play the best G5 teams. So that way you have like, like schedule at James Madison and Boise State of North Texas year in and year out for each one of these teams. So that way you hang that that win on the on the board. I feel like that boy. Boise State, we could get a package deal there. Yeah. There you go. A.D. and football coach. There you go.

37 year olds by the third straight mountain West Conference championship game. His mind hasn't left that since you said it, Chris. I know. You're looking for package deals. I just look, look. It's all right there, man. Yeah. It's all right there.

Is that. I was of the mind preseason that the Big 12 should only play Mercer, Samford, and Western Kentucky, like a lot of these SEC schools do. Yeah. But now it might just not be the case. Like, if BYU had a win in the non-conference against Notre Dame, then we wouldn't even, this wouldn't be a conversation. They're in, easily. Well, I think if they play on rivalry, in the Holy War, it does accentuate the point that they probably get in as well because the recency bias matters. and we need that marketability.

That's true. And we're never going to get that Notre Dame BYU game. What happened to that, too? Wasn't there a game scheduled? I thought, I think there was. Somebody built out wasn't BYU. Big 12 is in a position where they have to do the opposite of what Texas is crying and doing now. Because Texas is taking their ball and going home because they played Ohio State

and they're completely ignoring their loss of Florida. So Texas is saying, you know what, we're not going to play anyone hard. So we'll just win out against everyone else and don't worry about the challenge games. I think the Big 12 has to do the opposite, right? I think they should cancel Georgia from their schedule, too. I mean, they're glossing over the fact that I think Texas and A&M both only have one win against the top, what, six of the SEC teams. So their biggest wins are against the bottom half of the conference.

It's crazy. Whereas BYU. Texas A&M's first five SEC wins were against all SEC coaches that were fired this year. Yeah, that is nuts. And then BYU loses to Tech. I haven't thought, yeah, I really thought about it. Like, BYU played a tougher Big 12 schedule than Texas Tech, and their only loss. Did they?

Was to Texas Tech. Okay. Yeah. You got to fill me in there. So that's where that BYU played more eight-win teams, more seven, eight-win teams in Texas Tech there. Okay. So Utah, Arizona State. Arizona?

Yeah, Houston. Yeah, I don't. You got a factor in. I mean, I know. I don't, yeah, anyway, but you got beat by 22. What do you want me to do? No doubt. So, BYU loses to Texas Tech, but if you say you play a better or worse or comparable, right

around what Texas Tech did, if you want to go there before we pull it up. And your loss is to Texas Tech. Texas Tech losses to Arizona State, who's outside the top 25. I think Tech, we gave a quarterback on the road. No doubt. And so we gave Tech a Mulligan, right? We gave Tech the, hey, you're still a national championship caliber team. we're going to overlook this, you're number four in the country.

But this other team who has one loss in the same conference and your one loss is to a much better team on the road, we don't get, we don't give them any respect at all. One gets a mulligan. The other point of margin of victory or whatever. Margin of victory, excuse me. Yeah, that's the scary thing here is that Texas Tech has, I think Hunter Eurecheck, he said that on the deal earlier in the week,

that I think you've beaten everybody by, at least 20 points and it's an average of 35 points and like so if you're not doing that though you're probably in a similar boat to b yu you know and that's not a good person for the big 12 to be in i'll be honest with you you're 11 wins yeah you guys were saying like schedule harder opponents i've actually flipped the other way i think you go like the indiana i'll play a bunch of cream puffs and beat them by 80 and everyone thinks you're really good because they haven't been proven that they're not so you can't say well they lost to so and so because they didn't lose They just played nobodies.

I just don't know. Different conference. Let me go to that. Yes, in conference, you can't fight that. But my, my, I'm saying it's a different conference. We don't get the benefits. Who's the Ohio? Great.

Agreed. Darren, what do you got there? Yeah, Dary? Who's the Ohio State? Because, yes, Indiana is able to schedule these cream puffs. But then you point to the Ohio State victory. And I do think that that allows them to have a little bit of room. You know, I want to real quick jump on Texas because everybody said, oh, well, we just

schedule Ohio State. And I think level brought it up. A, you're skipping over the fact that you got beat bad by Georgia. You just want to disregard the Florida win. But here's the other part that people are disregarding. You could have won. It's not as if the game was rigged in that Texas just had to lose. The risk comes in. And tell me, is scheduling tough out of conference games supposed to be just extra credit to where you win and we boost you up. If you lose, we act like it doesn't matter. Yes, if Ohio State, if Ohio State would have lost to Texas, they be in because they didn't lose anybody else but texas lost oh ohio state then lost to florida who at that time we knew florida was garbage it's not like they lost to a florida we thought was good

and then they got garbage no they lost to a bad florida and then they lost to georgia badly like these are things that play a part and then to just the idea of of going the cream puff schedule i just i think that only works i i don't think that helps you get two teams in that just puts in the position where you have to win the conference so an interesting point for Arizona State. If they don't play Mississippi State on the road, an SEC team on the road, they're not a bad SEC team.

But if there's not the Hail Mary, the Blake Sheapen hits, Cam, good to see it. The Blake Sheapen hits to win the game for the Bulldogs. I mean, let's say that they beat Arizona and they're sitting at 10 and 2, then right now they're a lot, they got a bad loss like Texas does to so-and-so

to a top 15 team. And there are the loss, or they have a win against Texas Tech, their other losses, whoever. like where do they sit at 10 and 2 right i think there's always going to be the big 12 bias that keeps there's something about the big 12 logo that we're even if your strength of record was the cc screen for last year puyu is like number six in the country and like some of these cc teams like see this ohio state game for tex this is their ninth conference game they're only playing eight conference games we go look at the rest of their non-conference schedule it's a joke

utap houston san jose state i mean also change your schedule up play the harder teams later in the year because we all know that week one of college football is the most useless week in college football because we think teams are at we thought florida state was back but but but borba but nor dame don't play the harder teams late in the year play the harder teams the beginning of the year and lose to them and then you doesn't count it doesn't matter that they're not in a big clobbo right that's what it is it's the big 12 it's the logo that's it's what it is and do we think it's not a lot of them they don't even have a logo on anything And it is some sweet irony that Joey McGuire made some comment about he popped off about Notre Dame not being in a league and kind of, yeah, you know, they took the easy way out.

They don't have to play in the conference championship game. They don't want to be in a league. And they are going to all be sitting there and their gold domed homes this weekend, rooting crazy for Texas Tech of all teams. Because if they, if Texas Tech loses, BYU is in and Notre Dame would be out. Are they going to still not punish people if you're losing in championship games? Like, is that still going to happen? If that does, if Alabama loses, what happens? The only way they'll punish you, they won't drop you out of the playoff,

they'll move you around. So like Clemson... Unless you just get... Unless you just get a hair. Texas is going to throw the craziest fit ever, because they're not getting it. True, but what will happen is like if Texas Tech will say, for example, loses to BYU, they'll put BYU in at number eight or number seven and Texas second number eight or something along

that they'll move maneuver it to where you don't play your conference in round one they have to do we load manage and try to let b yu get in rest for the playoff like do we load manage here text that's a great question that we will cover next week on the big 12th trial this is it always will be the longest version ever actually this has been it always will please hit subscribe we will help us keep

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