Locked On Jayhawks - Daily Podcast On Kansas Jayhawks Football & Basketball - Big 12 SQUAD - What College Football changes could mean for Kansas

Episode Date: May 29, 2025

Big 12 football is at a crossroads. With SEC politics heating up and the Big 12's competitive edge in question, what does the future hold for college football? Dive into the latest controversies surrounding BYU quarterback Jake Retzlaff's legal issues and Texas Tech booster Cody Campbell's financial influence. Hosts Drake Toll, Jake Catch, and others dissect Greg Sankey's SEC maneuvers, the implications of BYU's honor code, and the role of billionaire alumni like T. Boone Pickens in shaping the Big 12's destiny.Will the Big 12's strategic moves redefine the college football landscape? Tune in for expert analysis and insider perspectives on these pivotal developments.

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Know her feelings and thin skin allowed. Squad up, you're part of the Big 12 Squad. Happy Thursday, everybody. Welcome to the big 12 squad. I'm Drake toll from America's number one big 12 podcasts locked on big 12 with Jay catch have locked on Cougars Parker Ainsworth locked on Cougs. What's the difference? Cody Stovall locked in Oklahoma State. JT Westridge talks all things Utah. Richie Bradshaw with the Sun Devils and Derek Johnson have locked on Jay Hawks talking Kansas. Uh, just got off of a jet ski in Lake Tahoe

and I have a wine tasting. Such a fast flex. You are hilarious though. You are hilarious. I really, we should have done over and under on how quickly you drop that. What was different, what was different is your face is on fire and the bed behind you is messy.

That's not different. His face is always on fire. It's wind burn and I have a wine tasting to get to. So Jay catch the host. You never heard of Windburn? You said you were in Tahoe, not Catalina. I'm calling bogus. Oh, there's not wine in Tahoe now?

Not a mixer. A mixer drink. That's great. Plenty of Storylines about, he's the journalist, he works, KSL, right, which, he's the journalist, he works, he, KSL, right? Which is just like the best. Thank goodness. KSL only talks good about BYU and terrible about Utah, you know, cause

rightfully so, um, objective journalism. It's Jay catch host of blocked on Cougars. Jake, take it away boys. All right. He didn't even say he was going to do that. Wow. With that introduction, guys, I think we've been hurt before, but what's the SEC doing?

Torpedo on college football. That is the only logical answer. The question is, what does Greg Sankey have? He's gotta have some benefit to absolutely torpedo in all of college football. At one point in time, it was just beneficial for the SEC. Yeah, we get that. But it feels like it's going beyond that.

Like it's becoming personal. I don't get it. What I love here, what has to be happening here, right, is they understand that the schools in the Big 12 and the schools in the ACC are more valuable than like the Mississippi States in the world and they haven't figured out how to get rid of them yet. Right. Like if they thought those schools were more valuable, they would have already left. They haven't figured it out yet. And so they can't get rid of us. They can't do it because they know

we're more valuable than the bottom tiers of their conference. Well, last week we talked about the pores. They haven't been able to find out how to get rid of their own pores. Let's just put it in. Richie still feels every time. The other thing about this, because yeah, it does feel like it's personal because he's he's calling out the ACC in the big 12 saying that they're coordinated statement. And then we have the head of big 12s PR arm say there was no such statement put out.

We never made a statement. Right. What? What? What? PR arm say there was no such statement put out. We never made a statement. Yeah it's just really unfortunate especially when we just came to this agreement on this new we're gonna find we'll reseed the playoffs just whoever the top teams are get to be up there at the top. I think that I mean that's such a favor to the big 10 and SEC it feels like too and I know that I think the statement commissioner Phillips put out was like, Oh, it's a favor to the red light. We're just doing right by the sport. It's terrible for the ACC and Big 12 in order to agree to that. But we all know the Big 10 SEC are just going to get their way eventually.

So now they just get it a year sooner. So Richie's going to speak on behalf of the member of us that I guess made the playoff last year. But I would point out before we get to the transit of property that that was that Arizona State and Texas played very closely. Texas and Georgia played very closely. This is not as simple as math, but that math would indicate that the big 12 champ

would hang with whatever champ they put us out there with in a given year. Obviously there's like one off you here, one off you there that's just different. But in a given year, I think Richie's program in particular showed that we're fine and deserve the championship by like anybody else would have. Right. And let me add on to that because when I was previewing ASU versus Texas and locked

on some levels was very popular in Austin, Texas for about a month long period. The one thing that I repetitively was told over and over again is ASU does not have the personnel, the players to stack up with Texas. We don't have the NFL players. We're not big enough. We're not strong enough. We're not fast enough. And one of the things that I had said and got ripped on was, you know, sometimes it's not about being the biggest, baddest dude on the field. If you're good at football, you're good at football. Cam Scataboo, not the fastest guy in the world, not the biggest guy in the world. Last I checked, he was the Peach Bowl MVP on the losing team because he simply was better

than Texas that day. And that's, that is something that gets pushed on the rest of the big 12 and the rest of the ACC is everyone looks and they go, Oh, they don't have SEC talent. They don't got Ohio state talent. And it's like, just so disrespectful because you're not looking at the, the rest of the team entirely. You're looking at, Oh, look how many five stars ASU has, look how many four stars Kansas state has that. That's all that matters to them and to the media and the fans and everything is they look at the stars and they look at the AP rankings and everything and they're not paying attention to the fact that the Big 12 was deeper than the Big 10 was last year.

Our eighth place team was better than the Big 10's eighth place team. We talked on here a few weeks ago, gentlemen, about how dominant this conference is with quarterbacks. Like I can sit here and tell you Sam Levitt's number one, but I mean, we'd have a conversation about several. Well, I'm Connor Wegman. I mean, we can get Nick to the floor for a second so he can talk about the other thing about it is we're seeing these SEC coaches, they've been trotting up to the microphones down there in Destin. They've been saying, well, the committee and this and that, I don't get where the SEC comes

off thinking that they're going to get away with this. We have the congressman from Pennsylvania saying that the SEC and the Big Ten better watch out. And that guy's from Big Ten country. He's from Pennsylvania. He's saying he's going to haul in these leaders into congressional hearings. You get subpoenaed by Congress.

That could be a whole lot of fun to really dig into that background. I know Spencer McLaughlin's licking his chops about that. See, I just wonder if, like, does Greg Sankey actually believe the stuff he's saying? I kind of wonder if he doesn't. Like, what is one way that you can get people on your side? I mean, not to make this political,

but we see this in, like, the political world all the time. It's try to antagonize your opponent. It doesn't matter what side of the party you're on. You're trying to antagonize your opponent. And so, Greg Sankey saying stuff like, oh, well, clearly then we're just making all that matters, you know, the win-loss column and stuff like that,, well, clearly then we're just making all that matters, you know, the win loss column and stuff like that, not the strength of schedule.

Even though a year ago, a year before this year, you have Florida State at 13 and 0 getting left out for a one loss Alabama team, like it's hypocritical. I refuse to believe that Greg Sankey in the position he's in is not a smart enough guy to not know what he's doing. So I think he knows he's being a hypocrite. I just, I don't think he cares.

He's trying to alienate the rest of the country because then what happens is you alienate the ACC, the Big 12, all these other schools. And then all of a sudden you wait for them to strike at the SEC to say something they're not supposed to, to do something they're not supposed to. And then Greg Sankey can play the victim card and say, oh, see, no, this is your fault.

But him being a martyr doesn't make any better if it's a bad cause. Like that doesn't matter. And like what caused him to do this or say these kinds of stupid things doesn't matter. It doesn't make them less problematic and stupid. He's trying to take down the sport as we know it in a

way that frankly is detrimental to everyone involved. Because I know I jokingly open up Mississippi State, but there are teams in the SEC at the bottom part of that conference that frankly would not benefit from them breaking off. They just wouldn't. He's operating like it's a conglomerate business. He's operating like, hey, I'm going to take everybody else out of business and now I'm going to be the multi-billion dollar business. The problem with that is this is not Walmart. This is not a super store that you buy everybody else out, and then everybody's going to come shopping at you.

The problem is, if you do that, you're going to make the sport way worse than everybody who's outside of a couple of states is going to hate it. Well, I think it's ironic that Parker mentioned Senki viewing himself as a potential martyr martyr because one thing I feel like he might be missing is part of this does Osama bin Senki not remember that the Big Ten has won the last two national titles? Could it perhaps be that Osama bin Senki is flailing and grasping like a child? He doubled down on it.

Because he understands that the SEC has to be put up on this pedestal without it then they lose some of their cache. The Big Ten is one of the last two Natties and they're not huffing and puffing. Matter of fact they're having logical conversations about potentially doing a third party entity because they have an understanding that Breit Yomark is pretty intelligent. Greg Sankey is just a yeah he's a smooth criminal. Hey remember this is the SEC that schedules the Citadel for week 12 every single year, talking about strength of schedule.

So like- But hypothetically speaking. Hypothetically speaking? Hold on Lane, hold on Lane Kiffin. The only thing I wanna say really quick is just, I really hope we do what we can to protect any given Saturday. Arizona State versus Texas proved that, that still exists, and they're trying to take that away from us, and it sucks.

It's the best. Any given Saturday, it's what makes college football the best sport on planet Earth. And this conference the best, too. Perfect. Yes, it is. I, JTI, I got to get to the point. I think it's low key.

But I want to be here. They talk crap, but I honestly think that they kind of loathe the fact that the Big 12's competitive every single week. Yeah, they have the major brands that carry a lot of the TV numbers, but if the Big 12 is constantly the conference that is the most entertaining, eventually those TV numbers have to be indicative of that. And I think Senki is afraid of the Big 12 ever catching up.

The Big 12 has this for TV numbers too guys. Hey. Hey. Hey, Molly. All right. Great for TV numbers. Always great for TV numbers. Coming up next, a program that is obviously near and dear to my heart has a quarterback controversy and it could open the door for a number of other Big 12 programs to take advantage. We'll get into that next as the Big 12 squad rolls on.

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almost two years ago, going back to November of 2023. Obviously, there's a ton of this that is still unknown. So many different layers to this in terms of when it's gonna go to trial and all this. But the one thing, and Drake and I have done it, we did a crossover edition. The biggest thing is it opens the door for other Big 12 squads to potentially jump into a spot

that a lot of people thought BYU was going to be in this fall. And that is as a Big 12 contender, because you don't have QB1 and Provo, it seems to be a problem. Hey, thankfully for you guys, Alan Bowman is ready. And he's been on an eight-year mission to get better. You guys love your man. You love your early quarterback. I have one for you. How many doctors does he have?

By the way, you might have two. Yeah, you might have two. This did strike me though when we opened and Drake was like, what's there between the two Cougars? Like the difference is that if this were happening in Houston, he would say it was consensual and probably just play and there'll be no question that I feel like Jake, you need to speak a little bit though to like how unique the BYU of this all because right off the road, JT would not have quite the same issues. It would become a he said, she said consensual, not this kind of thing.

There'll still be issues, but I can say. Yeah. So here's the deal. BYU has the added layer of the honor code that they acquire of every student, including every student athlete that plays a BYU. The honor code forbids premarital sex, drinking drugs and other behaviors that are against that, that those codes that they obviously require their students to abide by. And that adds the element here

because you mentioned that Parker, okay, you can allege sexual assault, but obviously the defense would be its consensual sex. Well, here's the thing. Jake Redsloff, his lawyer said he's factually innocent. A lot of people believe that his plea is going to be that was consensual sex. The deal is under BYU's guidelines, that's against the honor code and that is grounds for A suspension and B potentially expulsion from school. So I mentioned there's multiple layers to this. We have a legal element here. We have a moral element involving BYU

and we had just had intro inside the university itself. They obviously have precedent previously of other athletes running a foul of the honor code, either being thrown out of school, withdrawing from school themselves to avoid being thrown out and also facing suspension. So there's, like I said, there's so many different elements to this.

And I have no idea which way it's gonna go. Well, and the Brandon Davies one, how long was he for the full year? Or was that just a number of games? Davies withdrew from school late in that basketball season. That was Jim or Fredette in 2011. He was actually, he left school for an entire semester and then re enrolled the following

semester essentially. So he missed about six ish months. Can't really do that when football though. Exactly. And this being a civil lawsuit, I've had a number of legal experts say that the earliest this goes to trial is mid to late 2026. Well, that doesn't work timeline of this upcoming football season. No, and I want to stress that while we're talking about going to trial and those kinds of things,

like we're all assuming Innocence still proven guilty because that is the court of law, that's what we do here. And like, obviously if he's found guilty, like throw him under the stadium. That's a whole different thing, right? That's not what we're trying to say. But the BYU of it is what's interesting to me because A, they're clearly in an NIL game

and have a quarterback in the ball. Like that doesn't seem like a question. But the BYU of it is also to me why, I mean bluntly and just openly speaking, they did a very big marketing campaign around this guy not being of the LDS faith. Like that was kind of his thing for a while. And now he's doing non-LDS things

and it's like, whoa there, man. Come on, he labeled himself the BY Jew. That was the nickname he appointed himself when he arrived in Provo. He's a very active member of the Jewish faith. He's obviously got that deal with Manashevitz, which is one of the premier brands of kosher foods out there.

He traveled with Bob Kraft to New Orleans for the Super Bowl on Bob Kraft's dime. He just went to Israel with a number of his teammates for athletes for Israel, which is a they go over every year and run football camps. They pick one football team and it was BYU this year. The interesting late level to this guys is Derek, you talked about Brandon Davies. Brandon Davies was a really, really good basketball player. But remember that was a really, really good basketball player. But remember, that was Jimmer for debt. They were talking the best basketball player in the country

that was on that team. We're not talking about QB1 of a team that went 11 and two and finished inside the top 15 last year. We have never seen an athlete of this high a profile in Provo to your point Parker, who has really become almost a national and international sensation in some ways, face what he's facing right now.

And the timeline on this is completely undefined and we're under a hundred days till the football season begins. Yeah, it's hard to believe when you factor that part of it into two, like we're a hundred days away and that this level of a story is not just rocked, even the state, the school, but even the big 12 itself has been absolutely,

there's so much still to be determined about this. And it's just gonna be very interesting to see how it all plays out, what the timelines are, Jake. And I also do wanna just commend you, Jake. I think you've done a fantastic job covering all of this. People like to say certain things about our network as a whole and the coverage we provide. I was very proud to call you a colleague last week.

I thought you did a great job covering all of this and knocking out of the park. So I also just wanted to give you your flowers there, my friend. Look at that, a compliment from a youth. There we go. NIL earlier. One and only, man. This has kind of always been an issue with collegiate athletes, and it definitely goes both ways. There's equal amounts of hearsay versus actual, you know, tangible evidentiary proof. But nonetheless, this should be factored into

NIL nowadays a little bit more so just like the NFL athletes, right, they have the conversations with them when you go through the drafting process, is you're gonna put yourself out there to make more mistakes. I think with NIL, this is part of the conversation that needs to be had. If we're moving to an NFL model, these guys need to be aware that you have more cash attached to you now that you're in college, so you're more of a susceptible target. Well, and that's-

Oh yeah, big time. Yeah, and that's the other thing is there are a number of Cougar fans out there, and I don't blame them for bringing this up, is why was this filed almost 18 months after the fact? Obviously there was a criminal investigation done by Provo police, and the quote from Provo police department

was they had no actionable intel in terms of the investigation they had to move forward with anything. So they're like I said the levels to this go deep and there's like it's just it's absolutely insane to consider how many different things are gonna have to play out if Jake Redsloff really ever hopes to see the field again for BYU? There's some pretty serious things leveled at the police to your point of in that article as well, too It's just a lot there's a lot going on that article.

Yeah, it's very very sad the the state that we're in right now with with everything that's going on. Very, very sad. You've done a really good job of covering this and can you explain a little bit and I have questions about like they kind of got her to say it was him at some point recently and then how did that work because it wasn't it wasn't that it wasn't reported because there was a DNA test done 18 months ago, but she didn't say who it was or something. So initially, she did not want to name who it was. And they had multiple victims advocates reach out to her. And they essentially

had to go to her and say, Hey, we've had reports of maybe as another athlete who's been involved here, we want to see if it's the same name, and then she finally revealed the name. But then they've retracted that statement so far as I'm aware, saying that they actually don't have corroborating essentially reports. They have a police report from that same period. I think is the same thing, but there's not names attached to it because this victim, the alleged victim has never, I guess, to be Provo Police Department's knowledge,

ever positively identified to them who the suspect is. So I wish I could, and I have Cougar fans, fans obviously across the country who are like, okay, well, Jake Wetzeloff gonna play for BYU? Straw poll, I think a lot of people think that just due to the layers of this and how long, prolonged the timeline could be, I have a hard time seeing it play out but if this were a

University in your opinion Jake is always follow this really closely if this were a non faith-based university what he'd be playing this fall I think it's so long as he said that he did not do it Yes If it was a not if it was a secular university like it was a secular university But the fact that this is a faith-based element in a university that obviously espouses the ideals it does and obviously has that honor code that plays into this and has precedent of a suspending athletes and be having them either leave school or kicking them out. That indicates to me

that Jake Grossoff may have seen his final snaps in a collegiate uniform. Yeah, unfortunately with the honor code thing, if nothing happens, it kind of takes a little bit of credibility hit. It's just an unfortunate byproduct of all of this. Right, I mean, you talk about such a unique situation. Like Parker said, the difference between the Cougars is if this happens at the University of Houston, we're talking about a completely different situation

than what's going on at BYU so that just adds so many more layers to this that just complicates everything so much and it's why this is such an intense conversation to be having. Yeah well we all know if he was playing for Georgia this would have never even have been a story we didn within nobody would have ever heard about it Well, no, he'd be driving right now. He'd be driving Him and Mike Gundy man Thank you, Greg Sankey would have been approving the first ever non-athlete an IL deal Oh, and this were at Florida we hear about in 15 years when a teammate did something crazy for the Patriots That's a whole separate deal

All right coming up next, money. We've talked a lot of money already today with the SEC, but money that actually resides in this conference. Do we have a power player in our midst that we need to prop up more than we already are? We'll get to that as the Big 12 Squad rolls on. All right, gentlemen, Cody Campbell. That name has emerged.

And obviously, if you are a Texas tech fan, you know who Cody Campbell is. Played for Mike Leach, an offensive lineman for the Texas Tech Red Raiders. He's gone on to not only sell billion dollar companies, but multiple billion dollar companies and then kind of just reconstitutes it and sells it for another couple billion dollars. And now he's running the Matador club and apparently here President Trump is going to be on that proposed collegiate summit that was supposed to be with. Are we are we underrating the fact that we have a power player in this conference that I think needs to be propped up more than he already is? Well in some ways you could say we have to Jake and unfortunately I think that's also your school

in some ways when you look at the talent they play for basketball, they need to do more for football, I would say overall. But when you look at basketball, what you guys are building, you have a team that could, oh, I hate to say this. You have a team that could win the national championship on the hardwood next year. So I think you guys are trending in that direction. And with the SEC, they could.

You're gonna say they can't? You're gonna say they can't, Parker? I'm not gonna say they can't. I'm just gonna say they've got to play some other Cougars too. That's why I'm not gonna say they can't. I'm just gonna say they've got to play some other Cougars too. That's why I'm not gonna say they can't. For sure, for sure. I just think they're easily one of the 10.

They're way too nice right now. They're one of the 10 best teams in the season. I'm just trying to call it legacy. And really quick, I just wanna make this point. This goes back to the very first conversation we had. The whole point the SEC is trying to make is we are the biggest and the best conference because we get the best players.

Well, what did Texas Tech just do? They got the best recruits. They're getting some of the best players right now. So they should be right up there by that SEC logic. Yeah. Okay. So the transfer portal, especially, sorry, Jamie is, um, you, you should not be able to compete with SEC teams when a top player enters the transfer portal. Alabama gives you a call. They say, Hey, blah, blah, blah, seven figures. Yeah, I'm going to Alabama. But when Texas Tech calls you, and Texas Tech isn't blue collar, right?

They're not Alabama, they're not Ohio State. With the least amount of disrespect intended, they're not one of the top perceived teams in the Big 12, or at least they didn't used to be when Oklahoma and Texas were running the conference and everything. But now because you have that green in your pocket and the oil in your pocket and everything like that, now you can contend with the SEC. And that's something that I think, uh, as Cody called

him, Osama, whatever it was, Osama Ben Sankey're gonna believe that every time. I wanted him to say it. I did not wanna say it. But I mean, that's a real thing that we weren't seeing five years ago. You should not be able to contend with Alabama, Georgia, Florida, when they're calling and throwing money at you. And yet here's Texas Tech with the best transfer class

that the Big 12 has, one of the best ranked overall. Like it's David Bailey is going to be a first round pick. Who knows about the rest of the other guys that they've loaded up with. It's disgusting. And we've had Nick Saban on NFL draft coverage say that I remember what the player was. He said we tried to get him to go to Alabama every single year and that athlete had never actually entered the transfer portal.

That was Nick Saban admitting on air while he was at Alabama as an SEC program. The reason why Nick Saban has spoken out saying that we don't need a commission on this. I think that the SEC is actually kind of scared that the playing field has been leveled a little bit here with the money that's being injected. You have a Cody Campbell that can inject billions of dollars at Texas Tech. BYU from what I understand is they've got somewhere between 10 and 15 either hundreds of millions or billionaires in terms of their they can dip into their pockets for NIL for BYU. That is going to level the playing field to a level that the SEC is frankly terrified of because they don't they want to continue to have the edge that they had and Nick Saban

had it for years and apparently doesn't mind admitting it after the fact. We are a couple months removed really quick from Alabama from Alabama's athletic director saying we need more money like putting a tweet out there to the fans we need more money I totally agree I think there are several aspects about the current world of college football like whatever someone else mentioned the Big Ten's won the last two national championships that scare the SEC. Yeah and remember this is the conference that prides themselves on. It's just different.

And now all of a sudden the Big 12 is right on their tails and the Big 10 is as good as the SEC. I mean, I feel like we can make that argument, not even just because they won the last two national championships. I mean, I feel like if you stack some of the best Big 10 teams against the SEC, you're getting some pretty good competition there. So, Illinois, South Carolina, we saw Alabama lose to Michigan.

Like we've seen this. How sweet was that to see Illinois stand them too? Oh, it was a great hate watch. They're both power conferences that are super top heavy. Yeah. Right. I got a question for Derek here, cause obviously you're more in the basketball beta things.. On my show one of my hosts actually brought this up earlier this week. Parker, I'll get to you in a second. You actually can weigh in on this as well.

I would have a thought on this. Hold on Parker, we have to go to the resident basketball guy, okay? I'm here. What do you got? With what Greg Sankey, essentially he wants football to stand apart in the SEC. And the thought on my radio station was that, okay, if he wants to like hold football hostage, why doesn't Brett Yormark hold basketball hostage by saying, hey, we're the biggest and baddest in basketball, we're going to hold out on our end to make you guys obviously feel the pain. I know that Florida won the national championship, but the Big 12 top to bottom is a better basketball league. Why couldn't Brett Yormark hold that over their head?

I do think he is trying to lean into that. I mean, when you look at some of the things that he has done with, I don't know, the Big 12 tournament and like they were gonna do that Kansas Houston game in Mexico that didn't end up obviously happening. Like I think he is trying to steer into that. All of those rumors that came about,

I don't know, a year or two ago of like, could they add Gonzaga could they add you can I think there is a part of him that's like a from an international perspective if we can get this thing going like basketball will pick up internationally more than football would and maybe that's our again the same way that if you look at them will be like the Dodgers have cornered the market in Japan from picking up show hey

Tony and then they add like all these other players like Like the Dodgers have cornered the market in Japan from picking up Shohei Otani and then they add like all these other players like Yamamoto and all that. If they can do something like that, like I think that's kind of the idea that you can grow it that way. The problem is, even if you have the best basketball league in the world,

that is worth something. And I could see us getting to a point where the basketball rights and the football rights are split up instead of them just saying, hey, we're selling the Big 12 rights to ESPN for $40 million a year. It's gonna be football sold for this, basketball sold for this,

especially in a conference like the Big 12, where maybe they'll make more off that than other conferences will, but it's still gonna be a drop in the bucket compared to Big 10 and SEC football is the problem. Parker, that brings me to this. You're the only guy on the show tonight it's in the state of Texas, obviously covering Houston

with Cody Campbell having the ear of the president cause he's golfed with president Trump. He's working apparently out there in Washington DC in terms of wielding influence. Could he help drive things to help the Big 12 as a whole, even though he is very invested with a Texas Tech in your mind? I think he could.

I think the other thing that's nice to have there though with him is that he's not just like kind of a Big 12 guy. You mentioned he played for Mike Leach, rest in peace, Mike Leach. And like, I think that there's some aspect of this that frankly when he was at Tech, they were kind of the fun, kind of weird. They weren't Pac-12 after dark

or Hawaii at midnight or whatever, but they certainly were like kind of different. And I think he appreciates like that there's a conference of like kind of different football that like, as JT said, any given Saturday, you're gonna get absolute chaos in the big 12, right? That's part of the fun. It's a bunch of quarterbacks throwing for four and a yards

and scams scattable running like crazy. It's a bunch of fun stuff happening every Saturday. I think having Hampton Hickson-Thompson that way will help. I also think it's worth pointing out though that it's another billionaire. There are not a whole lot of those kinds of alumni. Arkansas is unique to the SEC that they've got a couple, but there is more of that in this conference,

I think, than people realize, even if they're not all doing what Cody Campbell's doing with their money. I think these schools produce more of those kinds of alumni. And that's something they're gonna have to rely on, because that's gonna make up the revenue gap. That right there, you're gonna have to have those billionaires if they are so invested with these programs They got to help out these universities because Cody, you know this as well as anybody to make up that revenue gap

You need to have a T doing pickings, etc The other the spot that he's in is absolutely massive for the big 12 I just this this whole thing can't happen soon enough. The commission or whatever, that stuff clearly needs to happen quicker rather than later, because Senki needs somebody to check his diapers for him occasionally. It's not the same-

America's Conference. It's not the same role, but I would point out while we're talking about, you know, presidential connections, the Big 12, that he appointed Thelma Fratida, like long time Houston donor, big time Houston guy as the ambassador to Italy. Like there's a connection that it's not the same. He's not asking for opinions of college football, but like clearly he has his eyes on Texas

and that can weigh at the very least, if not also the big 12 people who will influence. There's no doubt about that. And talking about for Tita billionaire, T. Boone Pickens, billionaire, obviously, it was a big proponent. BYU's got theirs. I know the with JT, I know that the Huntsman family has been very invested with, with the so the nice part is, I guess, a very good point. The Big 12 has got a lot of big money boosters, and they're going to be required to keep this, keep this conference

competitive, however long it goes. All right, gentlemen, I think we have, we didn't have as much hijinks. All right gentlemen, I think we have we we didn't have as much hijinks as last week so I think we got we didn't talk about each other's hairlines or hats and all of that as much. I apologize. I've got a quick football focus question for y'all since last week. You asked for it. No hairline no hat. No jcatch. I don't see Drake here so. I don't see Drake here. So, all right. So, the denominator. All right. So, I'm Jay Cash. I cover the BYU Locked On Cougars. That right next to me is Parker Ainsworth. Locked On Cougs, that's Houston for those of you keeping track at home. Cody Stovall next to him, Locked On Oklahoma State. Just below him, JT Wister. So,

all things Utah Utes with Locked On Utes, Ricky Bradshaw, Locked On Sun Devils, and our man Derek Johnson out there in the Sunflower State covering the Jayhawks for Locked On Jayhawks. As always, thank you for tuning in to the Big 12 Squad, and as Drake likes to say, dose grande.