Locked On Jayhawks - Daily Podcast On Kansas Jayhawks Football & Basketball - BRUTAL WEEKEND: Takeaways for Jayhawks Basketball & Football After Losses to UNC & Arizona

Episode Date: November 10, 2025

Kansas Jayhawks face early adversity after losses to North Carolina in basketball and Arizona in football—can young stars like Flory Bidunga and Darryn Peterson fuel a turnaround as Big 12 play approaches? Derek Johnson spotlights the challenges of a tough non-conference schedule, roster youth, and whether Bill Self should shake up the starting lineup by promoting Bryson Tiller. Are lineup tweaks and player development the key to restoring KU's basketball dominance?On the football side, game management frustrations take center stage as Lance Leipold’s conservative strategies are called into question following another heartbreaking one-score defeat. Johnson examines quarterback Jason Bean’s place among great KU signal-callers compared to Jalon Daniels, the pressing need for explosive playmakers in the transfer portal, and why the defense might hold more promise than the offense next year. Could off-field donor confidence and program investment shape the Jayhawks’ future trajectory?Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!DoorDashWith DoorDash Streaks, you save every Saturday you order — stack it up all season and you could save up to $250. Order this Saturday. Keep the streak alive. Fuel your gameday — only with DoorDash. Terms apply. Promo period through 11/18.SupplyHouseJoin the free TradeMaster program today and score serious perks like priority shipping, lower prices, and a dedicated support line. Visit SupplyHouse.com to sign up for free and use promo code SHCOLLEGE5 for 5% off your first order. GametimeToday's episode is brought to you by Gametime. Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONCOLLEGE for $20 off your first purchase. Terms and conditions apply.FanDuelToday's episode is brought to you by FanDuel. Football season is around the corner, visit the FanDuel App today and start planning your futures bets now.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

A lot of questions about KU football and KU basketball after the weekend that was a little more optimistic about where things are going, though, for KU basketball. We're going to break it all down on our biggest long-term takeaways from the weekend that was on this episode, Locked on Jayhawks. You are Locked on Jayhawks, your daily podcast on the Kansas Jayhawks, part of the Locked On podcast network, your team every day. What's going on? Derek Johnson here, and this is Locked on Jayhawks. Thanks for joining us. We are part of the Locked on podcast network, now the number one sports podcast network. And on today's episode of Locked on Jayhawks, we're going to be breaking down our biggest takeaways from KU basketball, losing to North Carolina and KU football, losing to Arizona over the weekend that was. We'll also get into our goats of the game for KU football against Arizona in our third segment of the show. Today's episode of the show is Barack. to you by Fandual Sportsbook. Right now, new customers can bet just $5. And if your bet wins, you'll get $300 in bonus bets to use across the app. Download the Fandual app today. So KU basketball, we're going to start right there and then move to KU football. But for KU basketball, I think my biggest takeaway from that game, the loss against

North Carolina where they fell 87 to 74, I would say this, prepare for the start not hot here, prepare for the worst non-con record that KU has had. in at least over a decade. We've been pretty spoiled with some of that. I mean, they've played some very difficult non-conference schedules year in and year out under Bill Self. And a lot of times they're getting through it with one loss or two losses, even despite some of the tough opponents they're playing. This one's really tough.

You still play Duke. You still play Yukon. You still have the players era coming up. You still have a Missouri game on a neutral site. You still have at NC State. It's going to be tough to get out of this with just two losses at this point when you've already lost this first one in North Carolina, right? And so I actually went back and I was like, okay, when is the last time that Kansas has lost more than two games in before the start of Big 12 play, right? I'm not counting the, I'm not saying losing non-conference games overall because then that would count in NCAA tournament.

That would count in when you would play like Kentucky in the Big 12th SCC challenge. I'm just saying how many losses at the start of Big 12 play. So in the non-con before Big 12 play starts, Kansas hasn't had more than two losses in a non-conference slate that leads up to the start of Big 12 play. since 2014, 2014. That team had four of them. And you go back and you think, okay, 2014, it's actually the 2013, 2014 team if I'm, you know, being more specific. And what does that team have in common with this one? Okay, you're being led by a freshman, Darren Peterson, you know, that one, Wiggins or Embed, whichever way you look at it. That team was a very young team all around. This team isn't as young all the way around, but it's still very young. Think about it.

If we're talking about who have been KU's top seven players so far, Darren Peterson is a true freshman. Florida Bedunga is a true sophomore who's in his first, you know, season as a full starter. Marco Jackson is a sophomore and just missed a year of basketball last year. Bryson Tiller is a redshirt freshman. Cole Rosario and your starting lineup is a freshman. It's a very young team.

There's going to be some growing pains. There's going to be some bumps in the road. And I think that's what that 2013, 2014 team showed us. And, you know, you can look at that team and say, oh, they lost in the second round. like maybe that's not a great comp for what the end result was. But again, like if they would have stayed healthy, if Joel Embed would have been healthy, who knows how far that team goes. Maybe they're still losing the second round,

but I would like to think that they at least make the second weekend. If not more, you would have been playing an 11 seed in the Sweet 16 at that point. So point being, I think, you know, buckle in. I don't think we should have those same expectations that, hey, this is a completed product, this is a finished product. It's going to be, you know, like hopefully you win one or two of those games with some of the tough games you have, but if you have three losses going into Big 12 play, this is a team that is going to get better.

Whereas you look at the last couple years, it wasn't really a team that got better. Like, they were kind of a finished product at the beginning of the season when other teams were not. And I think it's going to be a little different with this year's team. So I just say, like, prepare yourself for that. Try not to overreact. If it happens, you know, if you keep losing these games, I double digits, maybe that's another thing.

But, and I'll try to do the same, right? It's hard in the moment, certainly. But I still do have high hope. for what they can be once you know this all kind of comes together there now a lot of that of where they're going to go this is another kind of long-term takeaway here is it's going to ride on the young former macdonald all-americans that i wouldn't say are quite hitting right now at least consistently and that would be el marco jackson and florrie budunga um Darren peterson has been as advertised so far you know if you want to add col rosario to this conversation and jaden dawson you can too and

I think that's important. But with Florey and Omarco specifically, I think Flore is the big one. Like, Amarco is your first guard off the bench. And he represents somebody who athletically should be somebody who can create his own shot and get to the basket and get to the hole. We haven't really seen that ability so far. But if he can find that confidence or level of play, it dynamically changes what this Kansas back court can be.

Then you look at Flory Budunga. Kansas is not a deep team at the center position or at the big spot. You have Florey, Tiller, and Mbia. And with Mbia, he's not really in the rotation. It is a thin spot in the front court for KU. So there's a lot riding on Florey to be a really good player for Kansas. All of our, you know, talking points in the offseason about if we think this team is underrated and, you know, maybe comparing it to like the 2009 Kansas team or comparing Florey as a sophomore to, you know,

you dokezibouca or Cole Aldridge or some of these big men in their jumps in year two at Kansas. it was on the idea that Florey was going to take that big jump. And I think we've seen moments where it's looked really good, like certainly in the opener, obviously you're way oversized for the other team. It looked really good. I would say in the Louisville game, he obviously fouled out, but in the moments he was there, it looked good against Louisville. And then in the other exhibition game,

against Forteis State, and then against North Carolina, it looked bad. So I think there's just a level of inconsistency there, which is not all that different than what we saw from last year from Flore. It just went under the radar a little more because he wasn't a starter. and it was like, okay, freshman, so it makes a little bit more sense. If this is something that continues all season, that's a problem for Kansas. If this is something where, you know, he's just going to be inconsistent through non-con and it is going to, you know, you're going to have your bumps, but it's going to develop him

to where once you get to January, February, all of a sudden he is that consistent guy and go-to-option, it's going to be okay for Kansas. And like, I think of, um, was David McCormick's, I forget if it was his sophomore junior year, he really struggled in non-con. And then McCormick was like money in conference play. I don't think he wound up on the All-Big 12th first team. He might have been second team, but if you just looked at the conference-only numbers, he probably should have been that year.

And I don't know, again, like there's a success story of that kind of happening for KU. KU is counting on Florida Bidunga, and specifically, I think it's on the defense bend, right? At the very least, like, even if he's only given Kansas six, eight points in a game, he needs to be a double-digit rebounder. He needs to be somebody getting two, three blocks per game, but not just the blocks imposing his will that is preventing those easy buckets from the other team that we saw North Carolina get over and over again against KU. And certainly the pick and roll coverage was not great for him and other players too.

It wasn't just Flory. But this whole thing, this whole thing of this working around Darren Peterson, it only works if Flory Bedunga really did take that leap. If not, I don't know what this team really is, to be completely honest. So there is a lot kind of riding on that. I still do see some of the flashes in the moments there with Flory that make me think he can get there. That's just the question of if it happens. happens or not. And then here's my biggest long-term takeaway. Just more of a posing a question here,

would it behoove KU to start Bryson Tiller and let Cole Rosario come off the bench? Now, this is obviously where, you know, as the head coach, is Bill Self, like he has to play a little bit of mastermind manipulator or, I don't know, psychiatrist a little bit, like is the head coach in that like, you know, he knows the players better than we do. Would would putting Cole Rosario on the bench, would that, you know, hurt his confidence a little bit where clearly you're trying to keep him confident or get him confident and would that crush it to where then you couldn't get it back? Like, is it a long-term play to keep him in the starting lineup where you know you're going to go through some bubs and bruises right now, but it's going to keep him up that you

continue to kind of believe in him to where eventually it's going to work and it's going to pay off for TAU? Or is it a situation where he's feeling too much pressure by starting and by coming off the bench, maybe it does allow him to feel less pressure and come in and have a game where he hits a couple threes and then he starts performing well off the bench and then moves into the starting lineup with the newfound confidence that can be different for for different people some guys you know thrive you know we're doing one thing and some guys thrive doing the other so that's where bill self has to you know figure that out in general but if that is something you know maybe you do tinker with putting tiller in the starting lineup and obviously the way tiller shot it

so far um you get you could say okay what's the spacing going to be but technically kew's got better shooting so far i mean they have from tiller than rosario so theoretically that wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. I think the biggest issue if you're going to the two big lineup, whether it's the starting lineup or a lineup you're using a lot, is the lack of big depth because then you only have one big behind them. Now, I will say last year, when KJ Adams was hurt and KU was only big because Zach Clements was hurt at that point in the time too, it was like Florida Badoonga, Hunter Dickinson, and I'm trying to think who would have been the other big off the bench potentially for KU, but they still started them next to each other. So I think, and here's

the other thing. I have no clue if this is actually something that they'd entertain this. year and there are no names floating around at this point in time. So this is not like me saying, oh, this is like what's going on right now. This is just me like completely speculating that when you look at the roster, if they do decide, hey, two big basketball is the way we need to go. They've added players at semester before. Silvio DeSosa, Sam Cunliff, Bryson Tiller last year, which side note, if Tiller would have been healthy last year, the way he looks, he might have actually like made that team better. Anyway, does KU try to, they have one more scholarship still open technically, no clue on what money could even be had at this point in time. But, you know,

if you do find your too big lineup is your best way to go, do you just try to add a body for the second semester? I don't even know. Could you find somebody to reclassify or something? Could you find like an international player, right? Because we've seen that be a thing, right? Where I don't know, just kind of an interesting thought of if KU could figure out a way to get it done. I think it certainly would make sense. But I'm not expecting that to happen. Nonetheless, I wouldn't be shocked if KU went to that. They've been getting killed on the defensive glass so far, um, getting hurt on the interior defensively. And you look at Trey White, he had really good rebound rate numbers at Illinois.

It has not transferred over to Kansas at all. And I can't help but wonder, he was playing maybe more three at Illinois. He's playing some three and some four, but Illinois was a bigger team. Is he a better rebounder at the three than he is the four? And maybe that would help there a little too. So, uh, let's get to our biggest KU football takeaways. You're listening to Locked on Jayhawks and we'll also get to our goats of the game. Thanks for joining us on this episode of Locked on Jayhawks.

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And thank you for making Locked on the number one sports podcast network. Okay, so big picture takeaways from KU football's loss to Arizona. While the loss to North Carolina was not great for KU basketball, at least it's early in the season, younger team. Also, you're afforded more losses in a longer season in basketball. There's still a lot of reasons to be optimistic. I think with football toward the end of the season, we keep seeing the same story, the close losses,

it feels like the opposite. It feels like ultimate pessimism right now from the KU football fan base. And I guess my first takeaway here is this. And I don't even know if this is a takeaway. way. This is just kind of a reiteration of something. I've said this multiple times throughout the season. It doesn't make it any less frustrating. So I get it. I'm there with you. But I don't really think it's logical to expect the game management stuff to change unless it's actually coming from the top. Like, it has to be an addendum from the top. So first of all, let's just get

into the psyche here, right? Lance Leipold is winning all these national championships at the D3 level where he is the best team every year, right? He, and I'm not saying like that, oh, he was gifted the best team. He built the best team and then he was the best team and he maintained the best team, right? He gets credit for that. There is a difference, though. When you are the best team, you can afford to play games conservatively because you are better than the opposition. And so it almost does become like, hey, you have to go out of your way to beat us, right?

That actually makes sense to me in the college game specifically. NFL probably not because the teams are so much closer together. But in the college game, I'm actually okay with that. Then you go up to Buffalo. and, you know, you're the best team in the Mac. And now you're Kansas. And at Kansas, you are either below another team when you look at, you know, maybe whether it's talent level or whatever, like if you're playing in Texas Tech,

certainly. And then a lot of the other teams in the Big 12, it's like you're on the same par as them talent-wise. Like, you know, Kansas in Arizona, I don't know, maybe Arizona recruits pretty well with the West Coast. Maybe that's a bad example. But like, there's a lot of other teams in the Big 12 that Kansas is on par with, just in terms of like talent level of what you're bringing in via high school.

and the transfer portal. And so it does become about, you know, winning on the margins. We've seen that. How many games does Kansas have that are close games? And how many of them have it? I mean, they're two and seven since 2024 in one score games. And so you have a bit of an older coach here who it's worked for so long for him in the past, doing it that way, I just don't really see it changing.

And you see the logic again in the post game of, well, we were going to go for it, but Jalen wasn't going to be allowed to play. That'll be the excuse that prevents it from having the self-reflection of, hey, we actually should have just gone for it regardless. Isaiah Marshall is averaging, you know, double-digit yards per carry. And we have Daniel Hyshaw, who's a battering ram at running back, who's a senior in one of his final games at KU. And we've framed the ball pretty well.

We have 170 rushing yards in this game. We've got a successful running game. So I just don't think it's going to show. We've seen it over and over again. I've seen some people be like, you know what? If they can just figure this out, if they can just fix this, they got it wrong. that is what you were signing up for here. And so this is where I'm talking about where I think it has to be an addendum from the top.

And the top can come in one of two ways to me. And maybe these are correlated in the same way in where the message is coming from, either donors or from the athletic department, right? It either has to be, like, do you, if you were the athletic department, do you hire a coach for Lance Leipold that just works on game management? That would be worth it to me, you know? Do you, I don't know, make him sit in like an analytics course or something with somebody? I don't know.

I don't know what it is, but that would be one way. Another way would be donor stipulation. And that could be filtered through the athletic department that gets the landslide pulled again. So maybe it's kind of the same messaging. But that is something I'm a little bit worried about from this. In terms of as you're looking to build next year's roster, you lose a bunch more seniors this year after you lost a bunch more seniors last year. You're going to really need to hit the portal hard this year. And you have a pretty good recruiting class coming in.

You're going to need to keep that together. And what does this come down to? Money, right? You need money to do these things. Oh, and also Kansas is still finishing their football stadium. They need money for that as well. And so in a time where donations and money is as important as it has ever been, not just in the college athletics landscape, but for Kansas football as well,

if the donor confidence is waning with how these games, I mean, not just that they've lost, but how some of these have happened and some of the game management decisions, you know, does that allow the donors to be like, hey, I'll give you a million dollars and you can go get some players, but I want it to come with, like, you have to take this analytic training course or you have to hire this guy to be your game management coach or something like that. I don't know, could that be a stipulation that you could do. That would certainly be interesting if that were the case.

Our next takeaway here is Jason Bean is the best KU quarterback since Todd raising. Jalen Daniels would probably be number two here. If you were just arguing individual seasons, that becomes more of a different conversation. Like, would you throw the Carter Stanley season up there? I still would probably have the Jalen Daniels, one of them, but they're kind of incomplete with some of the injuries. And I do think it's close with Jalen Daniels and Jason Bean. It feels like Bean had some bigger moments. And maybe that's the difference here.

It's interesting because Jalen wound up being the better quarterback than Jason Bean at one point in time. But let's not forget Jason Bean also won the initial competition between the two guys. And it's just funny, like, how these things ebb and flow so long. It feels like I was talking to somebody about this the other day, and we were kind of chatting and we were like, it feels like Jalen is a good enough quarterback that Kansas should absolutely be in a bowl game with Jalen Daniels, more than good enough to do that. And it feels like it's, if you don't, then you fell short of what you got at the quarterback position.

It also, you can understand why you're not getting like a nine or ten wins easy. in terms of some of the key moments or the bigger games, that being the case. But overall, if we were listing the 10 biggest problems for KU football, I don't know that he would pop up on the list right now. Okay, our next one is I think one of the top portal needs for this team in the offseason is going to be getting an explosive running back. Now, we haven't seen a ton of Harry Stewart and Johnny Thompson and the two true freshmen they have in with Thurman and Kelly.

that maybe that is the M.O. on one of those guys, and maybe that is the answer there. And maybe, you know, if you feel like one of those guys is the explosive back type, then maybe you get more of the, you know, reliable or pound it type back in the portal this way. Or maybe you just feel good about where those guys are at that those are going to be the guys. I'm totally okay with that, too, if that's how you deem it to be. But I think right now, Kansas is missing an explosive back. I think they've had a, like, you look at the Arizona game, Kansas only had a 4% explosive play rate. in the 10th percentile.

And when you look at them running the football, KU was getting like 1.8 highlight yards per rush, which is basically like the broken tackle yards essentially. This has not been an explosive passing game point being for KU so far this season. When you look at their, or explosive rushing game, excuse me, when you look at their run explosion rate this year, 50. 58th percentile it's a number that's fine but it just feels like for a Kansas team that wants to be built on running the football it feels like they need that home run threat and it feels like we haven't gotten that enough so far this season to where I think to me that would be one of the

biggest if you could go out and get that explosive back that you can pair with a reliable back or somebody moving forward I think that would be huge and I think that is one bit like I think if you put devon neal on this year's team like maybe they do beat Cincinnati maybe they do be in Arizona, right? Maybe that is the difference between those games. So, and then here's my last one here. This is a bit of a scary thought. I might actually be more excited for the defense next year than the offense. Trey Lathen, Blake Herald, Marcus Calvin, Dak, Brinkley. There's at least some name, Austin Alexander. He hasn't had a great season, but he's young. There's at least some names coming back there that you hope for improvement.

If there's no improvement, then that's a problem. But if there is improvement, I think I'm actually more excited for the defense of the offense. that is scary because we've never seen a Lance Leipold defense finish like in the top 50 nationally. Okay, we're going to finish up Goats of the game for KU against Arizona. This is Locked on Jayhawks. Today's episode of LOJ is brought to you by Fandual. The NBA is back and there's no better place to get in on the action than with Fandul, the official sports betting partner of the NBA. Even if you miss the start of the game or want to ride the hot hand,

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and bad goats for the KU Arizona game. We'll give a good goat to Daniel Hyshaw again under four yards per carry, but he was super successful in the running game, just plotting forward for the KU offense, who overall had a decent game running the football in this one. I think as far as the offensive line goes, Enrique Cruz had the highest graded performance on PFF, 68.7, 87 and pass blocking so we can give him a good goat. Kobe Baines had an 82 in pass blocking with a 66 overall. Some of the line blocking numbers aren't great for KU. None of them are bad. They're all just like, okay, you kind of just did your job and then, you know, they picked up three, four yards per carry for Kansas. I thought Pickett and Henderson can probably get a good goat for the offense

here. And then when you're looking at the offense, as far as the bad goats go, I do think some points were left on the table when you go back to the game management stuff, right? I mean, I mean, that could have been an opportunity to score more, the fourth and fourth, the start of the fourth quarter, the fourth and two at the end of the game, to try to kind of almost put the game away, so to speak. You look at the lowest graded PFF players, Bryson Canty. I mentioned him the other day that felt like kind of missed opportunity there. 48 PFF grade, he nearly had that touchdown, couldn't hold on, had another drop later.

Layton Cure had a penalty. He had just a 51 grade on PFF and just a 31 pass block grade. That was in four pass block snaps. So they tried to bring him back there. That didn't totally work. Premier Herring had just a 52 PFF grade and just a 30 pass block grade. So those are some of the rough ones for KU, at least on the offensive side of the ball. To the defensive side of the ball for KU, Leroy Harris had a 93 PFF grade, 34 snaps.

So he certainly gets a good goat for Kansas. He was all around the ball. He ended up with four pressures to lead KU. In terms of the pressure count, Dak Brinkley had three, Jalen Todd, Bengali, Kamarro with two. He had 17 pressures and five sacks in this game, and you still could not. beat Arizona, unfortunately, for KU. Dak Brinkley gets a good goat. He has a sack and a half, his first and a half of his career.

Austin Alexander, we mentioned him, young player, and he actually performed really well. 70 PFF grade. He had a 68 in coverage. He was targeted three times. He gave up just one catch, and it went for negative one yard. So it must have been a screen, and he had a 42-passer rating against. So he was good. Jalen Todd had a really good game.

Obviously, he had the key penalty, but overall was good. He had some big stats. He had a couple stacks that were designed up. did a good job disguising the blitz. And I think that was kind of a pair there. He was also targeted, let's see, three times in coverage. He gave up two catches for 25 with one pass breakup. And then, honestly, this was one of the better games for the KUDBs

because DJ Graham, Jalil Hurley, are both graded higher than a 67. That was good to see Hurley get in there, by the way. He's somebody who could raise the ceiling of this secondary as well. And then Dak Brinkley gets one in there as well. I think the defensive tackles flashed. at different moments, right? At some moments, it was Tommy Dunn. Other moments, it was Blake Herald.

Other moments, it was, I don't know. There's, DJ Withers was the highest graded on PFF, even though he had the worst tackling grade, but that was certainly up there. As far as the lowest grades here, Mason Ellis played just two snaps. He gave up the touchdown on the one Blitz. Okay, you had him on third and long, and they just got a wide open touchdown there. That's something where Ellis was playing so well at the beginning of the season, and then he had the injury, and since then he's kind of struggled.

I don't know if it's still. because he's playing through the injury, but they need to get him back healthy and ready to go. Kamara had a tough game, just a 28 tackling grade for Bengali Tamara. He missed two tackles, had two tackles, and he had just a 49.5 pff grade. And then Alex Bray with just a 52 grade, one of the lower games for Trey Lathen, who's been great this year, but just a 54 grade, you wonder if that injury that he suffered during the game and then kept playing through certainly bothered him in this one for Kansas. That'll do it for this episode of Lockdown Jayhawks.

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