Locked On Jayhawks - Daily Podcast On Kansas Jayhawks Football & Basketball - CATASTROPHE: Kansas Jayhawks Collapse at Arizona Wildcats Under Leipold’s Game Management MISTAKES

Episode Date: November 9, 2025

Kansas Jayhawks fall to Arizona Wildcats in another heartbreaking one-score loss, sparking heated debate over Lance Leipold’s game management. Derek Johnson dissects KU’s 24-20 defeat, questioning conservative fourth-down decisions, late-game defense, and whether the Jayhawks’ struggles in close contests signal the need for major changes at the top.Daniel Hishaw Jr. and Emmanuel Henderson’s strong performances weren’t enough as Jalon Daniels and the offense faltered against Arizona’s tough secondary. Key moments—including a controversial penalty nullifying a potential pick-six—underscore familiar frustrations for Jayhawks fans. With bowl eligibility slipping away, donor confidence waning, and Leipold facing increased scrutiny, can Kansas pivot from recurring mistakes and salvage the season? Don’t miss Derek Johnson’s hard-hitting analysis of what’s next for Kansas Football.Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!DoorDashWith DoorDash Streaks, you save every Saturday you order — stack it up all season and you could save up to $250. Order this Saturday. Keep the streak alive. Fuel your gameday — only with DoorDash. Terms apply. Promo period through 11/18.SupplyHouseJoin the free TradeMaster program today and score serious perks like priority shipping, lower prices, and a dedicated support line. Visit SupplyHouse.com to sign up for free and use promo code SHCOLLEGE5 for 5% off your first order. GametimeToday's episode is brought to you by Gametime. Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONCOLLEGE for $20 off your first purchase. Terms and conditions apply.FanDuelToday's episode is brought to you by FanDuel. Football season is around the corner, visit the FanDuel App today and start planning your futures bets now.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

This one felt like a lot of other losses, just rinse, repeat, same issues over and over again. We've lived this story before, but it doesn't make living it again any less bad. You are Locked-on Jayhawks, your daily podcast on the Kansas Jayhawks, part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. What's going on, Derek Johnson? This is Locked on Jayhawks, a little somber episode. As KU loses to Arizona 2420, we're going to recap the game and get into plenty about what happened that it felt like a lot of these other losses they've suffered. Is it time for heads or roll, so to speak? We're going to get into all that on today's episode of Locked on Jayhawks.

And again, thank you that every dayers, catching each and every episode of the show. Thank you to you for listening anywhere you get a podcast, including on our YouTube page. We'll also get into our moments, stats, awards of the game. game balls as well. Let's start right here. This game was literally the most perfect chef's kiss, KU football Lance Leipold era game. It had it all. It had everything that we, the games that Kansas has consistently lost, the one score games, the close games, the, I don't know, self-inflicted law, like losses that you walk away from feeling like you were the better team. Those are the losses that I'm talking about. And those have defined these last two seasons of

KU football. And it had it all. It had a one score loss, which was it two and seven, two and eight for KU since last year in one score games. I mean, certainly they're, I think, two and ten in their last 12 overall in one score games, I believe, if I have that right, a game you, in my opinion, should have won. I thought KU was the better team today, right? And the scoreboard won't show that. And, you know, in five years, people aren't going to remember. Okay, it was the better team that game. They're just going to see Arizona won the game, right?

But a game you should have won. It had landslide pulled getting on the ref far too long for a penalty that, I mean, I actually kind of thought it was a penalty, to be completely honest. But even if it wasn't, yeah, like, even if you don't think it should have been a penalty on the what would have been a Leroy Harris pick six, right? Regardless of what you think on that, you cannot allow yourself as that, if the fans, if we want to, you know, complain about it for 15, whatever, okay, right? But you as the head coach, you got to lead these men.

And you see, I don't know why. Somebody was texting me about this during the game. When Taylor Davis, there was the dropped interception, so to speak, where it got tipped in the air, and Taylor Davis thought he had it. They reviewed it, got overturned, and it wasn't an interception. And it looked pretty clear that that wasn't an interception either. And I was texting with somebody about this and we were kind of like, yeah, I mean, I guess like, like, we were like, why does he?

seem so irate, why does he seem so stunned that this would not be an interception? It looks pretty clear. I don't know, maybe the video board there wasn't as clear. But you start to think back to like the landslide, just constantly getting on the rat, like, to a point where it's like, you got to let the play go and move on. You got to coach your team. You can't come back out from the locker room to talk to the refs as opposed to getting your team right for the second half. That cannot happen. And you just see that and you go, okay, well, I guess that's kind of trickling down from that right so you had that in this game you had some it feels like this has happened in a lot of k u you know one score and close losses the dropped interception or the dropped pick six i guess you

had the dropped interception there from from davis i think there was another one at one point in the game that that could have been you know tipped up in the ear and caught there was the uh dropped pick six but i think it was said gibbs which that would have been to the house and that would have clinched the game like how many times has k u a kudd had an opportunity to i mean we think of the rich miller one certainly where it's like oh that would have won k u the game and they weren't able to do it. This is the big one here. Horrific game management. And it kind of boils down to this. Playing scared, not playing to win the game. And you think about all the like, okay, so the big controversial one at the end, we'll get into all of them in our second segment. But like there were a

couple opportunities that could have gone for four downs. They opted not to. And, you know, a couple opportunities where, you know, it's like third and long and they're running the ball and stuff. the one that it boils down to at the end, Kansas has fourth and two. Kansas is a fourth and two up 20 to 17 with a little under three minutes to go at the Arizona, whatever that was, 20, 25-yard line, where if you get a first down, it doesn't completely ice the game because they still had, you know, some timeouts in the two-minute timeout that they could have made a stop, but it puts you in a very favorable position that you're going to eat a majority of the clock

at the very least, or you're going to eat up their timeouts, or, you know, you're going to have better chance to get a touchdown and then put it away if you go for that. And they end up not going for it. They kick the field goal. They don't get the field goal. Arizona goes down and scores way too easy on the other end. Now, in the post game, Lance Leipold mentioned that, and this is for Michael Swain of Fog.

Dot net, that, you know, he, they were planning on going for it, but the official, because Jaylon Daniels got hurt in the last play, told him that he couldn't, you know, bring Jayland back into the game. A couple things to that. one, I scoured the internet for like legit an hour trying to find the actual NCAA rule and you can't find it because the way that search ends and work nowadays, all you're going to find is the new rule that they passed in this offseason where if a player is injured or is down for an injury after the ball is snapped, then it's like the delay a game penalty thing. That's not

what this was. That's to prevent teams from, oh, they're running hurry up. I'm going to go down after the ball is snapped. That's not what this was. You can't find the actual rules. I don't actually know what the rule. Is the rule you can take a time out? Because that's what he was told that if he takes a time out, they still can't bring Jalen in. I actually don't know if that's the rule or not.

And through a bunch of searching and trying to find it, I couldn't tell you. So, you know, to begin with, I don't really know where to start with there. Even if that is true, and again, like, if that ends up not being true and that's not the rule and the refs said that, then I don't know, those refs should not like work the rest of the season legitimately. but let's say let's say that is true and everything I would still have gone for it I mean Isaiah Marshall's a good runner bring him in there run Isaiah Marshall or run Daniel Highshaw you know he was having a good game because the getting the first down there I mean they popped up on

sometimes those ESPN analytics go forward on these sometimes it can be a little too extreme but it was telling you to go for it if it was anything fourth and seven or less it was like fourth and two fourth and three and here's the other thing okay but why didn't you go for it on many of other fourth downs throughout the game because you had plenty of other opportunities too to go for on fourth down when Jalen Daniels wasn't hurt. And then again, Jalen Daniels not being out there doesn't, it doesn't mean you can't go for that fourth down. You still could. You run, you literally have a package for Cole Ballard and Isaiah Marshall where either one comes in and runs the football. So you're telling me you can't do it there on the fourth down. You're telling me they can't come in

if you're going to be expecting one of those two guys to be leading your program next year and try to get you one play you don't think that that i mean that would be a legendary moment if they came in to either kickstart their career or for you having the kohones to and that's just the end of the day you don't have the hutsvah you don't have the kohones you don't have the balls to to and it's it's frustrating too because again it's like if you're at alabama you're at georgia whatever if you're bringing in all these like five stars cool good on you be conservative man because it is you're at kansas you're at kansas act like it And I don't say that to despair.

Like, I just mean it from a standpoint of like, this is not a historically rich football program. I want to see them act like it. Be crazy. The surprise onside kick here or there. I don't know. Do crazy stuff. Do crazy stuff, man.

Because you need to act like you were the underdog. And you were in this game. You were a touchdown underdog coming in. And it certainly just doesn't feel like a nod of these games. The defense collapsing late. That's another kind of characteristic that like this felt like one of those early season games. in 2024, whether there's the UNLV game or the West Virginia game was like, the defense played

really well. And then the last drive of the game or the key moment, it was like, can they get one more stop? They can't. And then you get the ball back in an impossible situation for Jayland Daniels that it's like, you still have a sliver of hope if he can do a few things like perfectly, and it just never goes that way. So it was everything that we've seen in some of these other games. Right there's, yeah, I mentioned UNLV or Illinois last year, or the West Virginia game

last year, or the Kansas State game last year, and I'm missing some. a Cincinnati game this year, right? Again, I'm skipping past even more. And that's the problem. It keeps happening over and over. And it doesn't feel like there is any real self-reflection. It doesn't feel like there is any changes that is being happened or that is happening at this point in time. I don't know what the answer is here. Right? Like I think that the Travis Gough almost like, are you going to have to, is he going to have to like force his hand and hire a game management coach for Lance? Like seriously. like is it getting to to that point here and i'll say this too like i'm not saying this is what's going

to happen um but i have never heard the outpouring of people commenting to me DMing me texting me just finding way emailing me of of that they are actually now ready to move on at the head coaching position is wild i usually it's like you get like a couple here they're upset about how the game went or whatever it is like becoming like a legitimate like a legitimate like like witch hunt now from this game. This felt like the final straw for I think a lot of fans. And so obviously I think if you win one of these last two and get to bowl eligibility, I'm not saying all is going to be forgiven,

but I think it will at least like reverse course a little bit there. But if you don't, especially looking back on this one, especially if there's another game like this in those final two, I don't know, man. I'll just say this. Like I don't know how there's a lot of donations needed, right? The stadium is still requiring donations. NIL, Rev. Share.

building next year's KU football roster, building the KU basketball roster, all these things. And donor support is more important than ever. And so if the donors are off the bandwagon for the coach, I don't know. That's just something to think of. But I think this is kind of, this tweet kind of exemplifies in a very real way. This is from Phil Newman on Twitter. and shout out to Phil for sharing this. So I posted on on X, Twitter, or whatever.

This game is literally the perfect game. I chose someone to define the light pole there at Kansas. And he quoted it, he said, trying to decide if it was worse to have a team that couldn't win any games or a team that should win many games that the coach does anything possible not to win. I think that is the most common sentiment that I'm hearing from people as, you know, the result of this game. And whether it is an overreaction,

in the aftermath or whether it is something that is true. It certainly seems like the data points keep stacking up over and over there. It's certainly a problem for KU and one that doesn't feel like it's getting fixed. And it just doesn't feel like there's progress being made. Let's get to our biggest positives, negatives of the game. We'll get to our moment, stats, award game balls, all that next. You're listening to Locked on Jayhawks. Today's episode of the show is brought to you by DoorDash.

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But he had five tackles. He had two sacks. He had a pass breakup and a forced fumble. Jalen Todd was everywhere. And it felt like he was playing that kind of like Trent, Duffy Rolls, like the slot corner who can blitz or play good coverage. So really impressed with Jalen Todd so far this season and what he did in this game. And for Kansas, if Jalen Todd delivered in a big way, and just like Jalen Todd delivered,

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We have a recap from the KU North Carolina game. Not a fun weekend, to say the least. In fact, my last 36 hours have sucked. So KU or beyond. So, yeah, that's no fun. And this certainly tacks on to that. Okay, I'll say this. Like, biggest positives and negatives of the game.

Let's start with the positives. I will say, like, Daniel Hyshaw looked good again. Like, he continues to play well toward the end of the season for KU. At this point, I'm not picking KU in either of their final two games, but if it does happen, like Daniel Hyshow is a big part of it. I know just 3.7 yards per carry, but it certainly felt like he performed better than that and had some big runs kind of gashing the defense. Manuel Henderson got going again.

That was nice to see him and pick it, kind of get it going at the same time. That was good for the KU passing game, even against a really good pass defense in Arizona. And then, I mean, prior to the last drive, the KU defense was awesome. And, you know, you keep giving them the ball up three. and not going for the kill shot. Like, eventually they were going to, they were going to break through. And so I don't really necessarily fully blame the defense there. You know, this isn't a perfect defense.

We knew that. If you would have said coming in, they were going to give up 24 points. I would have taken that. So, you know, I think the defense overall played well. And you saw a lot of production. I mean, you have five sacks from the defense. You had six tackles for us. You had five pass breakups.

You had two cuby hits. You had a forced fumble. Like, the defense did more than enough to win this football game. The defense line was really good for KU. The pass rush was really good. still some breakdowns in the secondary, but, you know, you at least, it wasn't like a consistent. It wasn't like, oh, guys are wide open like every single play like we saw in some of the other games. So this is a game that I was at least encouraged by the defense out of

this one. The biggest negatives, though, it's the game management. It's the game management, and it's the game management. Let's just get into that right now. I'm going to jump ahead a little bit here. We're going to give out one of our awards is the courage, the cowardly dog of the game award. So these are the plays or moments that KU, again, not nearly aggressive enough. KU had a third and eight when it was down seven nothing in the early part of the game. They ran the football. You bet they didn't get it. And yeah, I mean, who knows? Maybe if they like, is that a drive where if you throw and pick up the first down, what if you do end up scoring on that drive? And it's a different result of the game there. Then KU's up 14 to 7 and

trying to punch something in at the end of the half. And they run a quarter. back draw on the third and eleven they don't get it like marjan hits a long field goal but you know that allowed arizona to get the ball back and go down before half and find their own points before the end of the first half um the obviously the kick in the field goal up 20 to 17 under three we went into that and segment one and that like you know all the stuff that went into that I still would have gone for it even if it was Marshall or ballard personally or even if it was a uh wildcat runner even if it was just, just have somebody else line up under center and do that. We've seen Jayland Daniels do the tush push for a first down, just have somebody else

do it. I don't know. So I still would have gone for it there. There's at least a little more excuse there, but there's still a point being like, you were trying to turn a one score lead with three minutes to go into still a one score lead. Even if you want to make the field goal, it wouldn't have protected you. Arizona still had a touchdown. So like, and so the other one, though, and this is the one that honestly like is going to get less shine because of the one at the end, but I could argue it was almost just as important. Kansas had a fourth and four at the Arizona 40-yard line up 20 to 17, and that was the play that carried over.

It was the last play of the third quarter into the first play of the fourth quarter. So not only would you have a fourth down there, you had an all-quarter break to talk about it. You basically had a free time out to discuss your play that you would want to run and run it. And instead, you come out and try to just get them to jump off sides. And you take a delay of game and you punt the football. That is one right there where you were saying, hey, we're up 20 to 17. We're not going to give up any more points.

We don't need. We'll be fine. Like, we're going to play this conservatively. Again, you need, this is Kansas football. You're five and four. Now you're five and five. You're an underdog by a touchdown in this game. You cannot approach this game as we're going to hope the win comes to us.

You have to go take the win. And they did not in that situation or many other situations in the game. I think that one actually is the one I would give the award because again, at the very least, even though I still would have gone for it on that last one up 20 to 17 where you missed the field goal, at least there is that little excuse, even though again, I still would have gone for it. That one, I don't really, the fourth and four at the 40 start the fourth quarter. I don't see an excuse in that one.

And that's part of the problem, too, is that like it's almost going to be like this, this shield to be like, well, we didn't go for that fourth down because this, this and that. Okay, but what about the other fourth downs that you didn't go for in the game if you're KU. And I want to say there was another one in there, too, that they could have gone for, but I don't know. I might just be like blowing things up in my head. Anyway, um, let's give out our other awards. Yak King. That's going to go to, uh, Cam Pickett. There's a happy award there.

Cam Pickett, so good yard after catch man. He had 43 yards after the catch in this game, just creating those extra yards for KU. That was really impressive in this one and nearly helped KU win the game. Um, it felt like I give the, I gave an award for had a chance and couldn't take it award to Bryson Canty. I talked a lot about Bryce and Canty coming into the week that he was one of my players to watch. I thought he was impressive last week. And I thought he can provide like something that this KU receiving core doesn't have as much of. That kind of like possession receiver who can win the jump balls.

You know, that's what last year's receiving core had a lot of. This year's receiving core has more yard after catch, but it doesn't have that guy in Canty can provide that. And you saw that last week. And he had a couple opportunities. He had that deep ball that he couldn't hold onto on kind of like the deep post in the early part of the game. He had another opportunity to hold on to a pass on,

I think it was like a second and long that would have made it third and short. And then it did end up with one catch for two yards, but it felt like he had an opportunity to do something bigger and capitalize off last week and get momentum. It just didn't really feel like that one happened there. The moments and plays of the game, like honestly, I could talk about some of the fun moments, some of the fun KU sacks that they had,

some of the fun blitzes they had, some of the good pressures that, you know, you saw from guys like Tommy Dunn or Jalen Taw, or Blake Harold or Dak Brinkley was awesome, man. Like, that was one of the other big positives that a young player like Brinkley performing, right? And there were some fun moments there. There were some fun moments on, you know, some passing plays that you hit to, say, Pickett, for instance, or Henderson or some nice runs by High Shaw.

But in the end, to me, this game comes down to two moments. It's the moment at the end of the half where you thought you had a pick six and Lee were Harris, it gets called back for a penalty. And it's not necessarily that it's just that like that was a game turning moment. And if that's a pick six, you win the game. If it's not, then they end up winning the game, right? So that one probably had the biggest, like, change in, I mean, that was a 14-point swing, but it is the not going for it at the end there on that fourth and two or one of the other

fourth downs. I think those are really the moments that changed the game. And then our stat of the game, or I guess stats of the game that we want to go to. This is crazy to me, by the way. Kansas had negative 47 TFL yards, Arizona, had negative six and KU lost the game. KU led five zero in sacks and they lost the game. I would love to see if somebody has it like the tweet at me at D Johnson Radio or at L.O. underscore Jayhawks, if you can find what are teams records when they have five sacks and the other

team has zero? I would imagine it's got to be pretty darn good and KU probably hurt that record in this game. I would say the stat of the game. It's crazy because you look at the stats and it's like KU is winning the stats. So it's like, what is the stat that KU lost in this game? You know, like that becomes kind of the problem. I mean, there were six of 17 on third down. Again, Arizona wasn't much better. They were five of 13.

That's another thing, too. Kansas was two of two on fourth down in this game. So it was like you were doing well on fourth down when you actually did decide to go for it there. I guess you could say Kansas was one of two in the red zone with that last drive encompassing, but that feels like it's just going back to the same thing. Honestly, I don't have a stat of the game here. I really don't because Kansas, Kansas had a.

more yards. They had like 40 more yards in this game. They had 40 more passing yards. They had five more rushing yards. I guess they had 23 more penalty yards. Maybe that's the set. They had one more first down. The other team was great on third down. Kansas is actually better on fourth down. I mean, across the board, like statistically Kansas should have won this game. So I don't know. I guess that's your stat. The Kansas should have won the game and they didn't. Okay, we're going to take a quick break in the action brought to you by Alien Spray, the commercial that's going to be on during every broadcast of ESPN. Not actually, but we'll be back to give out game balls. Thanks, joining us on this episode of Lockdown, Jayhawks.

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Okay, our game balls in this one. Let's start with the KU offense. You know, it wasn't a great game for the KU offense, right? You have under 400 yards of offense, but you, again, like the entire team did enough if you would have been able to do a couple more things to win this game. I think it's between probably Henderson, Pickett, and High Shaw. I do think Daniels had some good moments. he also ran for 67 yards or 74 yards in a touchdown.

It definitely feels like to me that Jalen has problems against teams who run 3-3-5s or like three down fronts where they have extra dbs. Think about it. So the teams who played it this year, right? Oklahoma State kind of plays that way, but just Oklahoma State's not very good. And I guess Jalen only had like 120 passing yards, so I thought he was good in that game. But neither here nor there. The Kansas State game was not a good game for Jailant.

And they play, you know, with those extra DBs. they play like three down front in kind of a lot of ways. Think about, I don't know, this is one that always comes in my mind. Go back to the 2022 game against Iowa State, Kansas wins because Iowa State misses a bazillion field goals. I want to say Jayland had under 100 passing yards in that game. That's a team who plays like 3, three, three, five. So I don't know.

That's just a couple examples that I'm thinking of. I guess Cincinnati runs it that way and that was one of his best game. So maybe that would be a point to the counter. But I don't know, it feels like in a lot of ways, like this was not, it wasn't a bad game from Jayland. I don't think it was a good game either. It was just a fine game. Miss some throws, you know, some whatever.

It was just a whatever game. But yeah, I guess point being for who we're going to give, we'll give it to Emmanuel Henderson, five catches, 65 yards and a touchdown. This is one of her bigger, his bigger games in some of the recent weeks. So Henderson will get our offensive game ball. And then our second offensive game ball, we will give it to, you know what, let's give to the offensive line. Because again, the offensive line didn't give up any sacks in this game.

And Arizona ended up only getting negative six total yards in tackles for loss in the game. So there wasn't a ton going backwards for KU. KU ran for 170 yards on 4.3 yards per carry, and they were able to just kind of have a successful churn-it-forward rushing game for the most part. So I'll give KU offensive line the other one there. It felt like Jalen stayed pretty clean throughout the game additionally, not just no sacks, but it didn't feel like he was taking like a ton of hits necessarily either. Okay, our defensive game balls for KU, we're going to give one to, gosh, see, this is tough because now I'm thinking. and then I'm just like, I want to give like three game balls out specifically.

So there was some really good flash plays by Tommy Dunn. I'm going to give him one. He had four tackles. He had one sack. And I'll be interested to see what the numbers say afterwards, but I could have sworn he had at least a second or third pressure in there. He was really impressive. And then I felt like Leroy Harris was in in a lot of plays.

Trey Lathen was in a ton of plays for KU. Jalen Todd, obviously, he had those two sacks. He was big for KU. I am going to give it, though, to the other one. to Dak Brinkley. Dak Brinkley had his first career sack and immediately had another sack. He wound up with two tackles, one and a half sacks. And as we continued, like at this point, like, I don't know, kind of a lost season again for

KU, look at the guys who are going to be, at least you hope, right, back for next year's team can be back with eligibility. And you look at guys like Blake Harold and Marcus Calvin and Dak Brinkley, who could be, you know, good pieces as upperclassmen of this defense. so the more that they perform now gives you more confidence in what they can be coming in next year and I thought that was a really important performance

but a really strong performance from Brinkley as a redshirt freshman getting his first sack and then backing it up right away and having a big game for KU on the edge and in a game where we kind of talked about coming in the week leading in that felt like the KU sacks weren't showing up as much

over recent weeks. Well, he ended up with five in this game. That should have been enough to win the game. All that'll do it for this episode of Locked on Jayhawks, you can find our show anywhere you get your podcast, including on our YouTube page where you can like and subscribe to the show. Feel free to vent more about what's going on. I've got a bunch of DMs, comments, texts from people. Feel free to reach out at LO underscore Jayhawks with your thoughts on where things are at as well.

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