Locked On Jayhawks - Daily Podcast On Kansas Jayhawks Football & Basketball - FIVE IN FIVE Could Rattle Transfer Portal & Kansas Offseason + Top 6th Men Options for Jayhawks

Starting point is 00:00:00 Sounds like five and five is going to be a thing, but it might not be retroactive. Plus, we get to some top sixth man are options for KU basketball as they look to fill out the roster in the transfer portal. You are locked on Jayhawks, your daily podcast on the Kansas Jayhawks, part of the Locked on podcast network, your team every day. How's it going, Derek Johnson here with another episode of Locked on Jayhawks. And on today's episode, we'll get to some of the latest news, KU Baseball, tennis, Kianu Daws. We'll get to some of the top six men options that I think are out there for KU to fill the roster. And we'll start right here with some of the latest on the five in five.

Starting point is 00:00:46 So earlier this afternoon, it says Division I Board of Directors on Monday directed the Division I cabinet to advance an age-based eligibility concept that, if adopted in its current form, would permit student athletes up to five years of eligibility beginning the regular academic year after they turn 19 or graduate from high school, whichever happens earlier. So basically, if you graduate, you know, when you're 18 and you enroll in college when you're 18, the five-year window would start then. If not, you know, you take a gap year. If you're a international prospect, for instance, it would start when you're 19, right?

Starting point is 00:01:25 Under that model, division one student athletes would no longer be limited to only four seasons of competition within their five-year eligibility window. So basically it's, yes, you get to play five-season. over five years from when that clock starts, right? And you could be injured and out for two of them. You get five years. No more redshirt, basically, right? You just get your five years regardless. It would basically eliminate your eight-year seniors, your seven-year players. It would also eliminate the European players that have started to come over who are 22, 23, 24 and are claimed to be a freshman or a sophomore or whatever, right? There would be certain,

Starting point is 00:02:04 exceptions like i think military and religious exceptions are going to be kind of part of this but yeah like paul and bia came over and he was a what 20 year old at the time i think he just turned 21 a few weeks ago and he was listed as a freshman i think he would technically gain a year as part of this but i guess he would still have you know the multiple years remaining regardless because the extra year at the fifth year now one of the big things with this because obviously this has a sweeping impact on you know, the players on everybody's roster, right? Everybody's roster in theory can now, if everybody gets another year, can in theory come back for another season.

Starting point is 00:02:45 Now, really not everybody, because if you're a redshirt senior on a team, that won't apply to you, right? But there are a lot of players that this would apply for, right? And it's basically another year for everybody, except for like Paul M. Bia. Like you think of KU basketball, you just brought Keanu Dawes in.

Starting point is 00:03:03 He could potentially have two years. years now for Kansas, you know, but it does apply for everybody. Like Leroy-Blyden could have four years now for Kansas. And who knows with the transfer portal in today's day and age, if that's all going to come through. But it's not just the basketball thing either. Like you think about it in football, and any player who is a, you know, true senior could have another season for KU football. The downside is KU has a lot of players who are like redshirt juniors, they would just basically, you know, they're still going to have two years.

Starting point is 00:03:40 Like they're not going to get another year because they already redshirted that. And that's what stinks is the guys who already redshirted are like, man, I could have played in a couple more games maybe. You know, maybe they weren't ready, but I could have played in a couple more games maybe and now I want to count it against. Now one of the big questions with this was going to be,

Starting point is 00:03:55 would it be retroactive? Now, and keep in mind, this is not something that is officially passed yet. It's just a recommendation, usually the recommendations are where they kind of go with this. But I was under the impression that it would be more likely that they would retroactively involve this past year's class. From the standpoint of if they don't, they're going to get sued into oblivion.

Starting point is 00:04:23 Whether they win or lose those suits remains to be seen. We've seen them win some suits recently. but typically the NCAA gets pummeled in court. And so I don't know why, but anyway, here was the news. This was tweeted out by P Thammel. NCAA president Charlie Baker told ESPN today that he's pretty optimistic that the new age-based eligibility proposal will happen. The D1 Board of Directors met today and will recommend to not implement the role retroactively for graduates exhausted eligibility. If you've used up your eligibility, you've used it up.

Starting point is 00:04:57 Baker told the SPN of the tenor of the discussion. And I just don't understand why you would do like, again, you're just opening yourself up to the legal trouble. Just let the one class in. And I've seen this kind of going around and this kind of stinks too that like, okay, so the class of 22, the high school class of 2022, they were the year after the COVID year. And now they're going to be the year before the five and five. So all the whatever, four or five classes before 2022 and all the four, five infinite classes after 2022 are going to get an extra free year, but the class of 2022 is not. That doesn't really seem fair.

Starting point is 00:05:37 So there's that part of it itself. The other part of it is, again, like, why do you want to just if you make it retroactive, it doesn't open a can a can of worms to be like, all these players can become eligible now. No, because again, once your five-year window starts. We go back to when either you turn 19 or when your high school season ended, your five-year thing is up. So you don't have to worry about if you make it retroactive, somebody who's now 25 years old coming back and being like, well, I only played four years in college. Can I come back now for my fifth year? No, because you would just point to it and say, you have passed your five-year clock, which ended when you turns 23 or whatever, you know?

Starting point is 00:06:21 So it would only apply for this class. You'd be done with it with one cycle. and then you would avoid some of the different suits that you're going to now take on in the court. I don't understand why they wouldn't make it retroactive for just this class. It just seems like it would be a lot easier for everybody involved, but that obviously is something that they want to find on. Now, all it takes is somebody this passes and then somebody sues the NCAA, and all of a sudden they win.

Starting point is 00:06:48 And then if just one person wins, everybody who wants to be eligible will just take that court case and say, here's the precedent for it for the court. And boom, all of a sudden they probably become more eligible, similar to what happened with Diego Pavia the first time when Pavia sued over the Jucco thing and that allowed players with the Jucco year would not count and use that same ruling to get themselves another year of college. So the question, though, is would there be enough time for these players, right? Like a lot of these players are trying to figure out, are they going to go overseas?

Starting point is 00:07:20 Are they going to be in the NBA draft? you know, would you have some guys who they're suing, but nothing happens? And then you get to a standpoint of like, do you get some players who are midseason additions because they had to wait for, you know, the court filing to come through? Or do we get the opposite? Do we get a Charles Betiaco, Alabama situation where he was playing and it was basically an injunction that, hey, he's going to be able to play until we make a ruling on this? And so some of these players are going to be able to play until,

Starting point is 00:07:51 they make a ruling and maybe the ruling goes the right way, maybe it goes the wrong way for them, right? I think a lot of interesting repercussions by them not making it retroactive, but from a Kansas perspective, that would mean no Trey White potentially back for a fifth year. Again, the Melvin Council one is not based on the five and five. The Melvin Council one is based on kind of a different set of rules. But I do think if they pass the five for five, five in five, five, four, five, whatever, it would basically jump Melvin counsel from being able to get another gear because they would just say, hey, even if you want to say your co-years don't count, you know, you turned 19 and then it's been five years since.

Starting point is 00:08:33 So you would, you know, not be eligible under our current rules anyway, you know. So I think this leads to that probably not being happening. But again, I remain skeptical that the NCAA won't just get sued on this. it won't just open things up for, you know, more players to kind of get that last year. Now, this one was interesting here. This was tweeted out by Andy Staples. Tucked under the NCAA release about five to five play is eligibility is this little gem. A proposal for tampering enforcement structure where the school that got the player has to prove it didn't tamper or it'll be guilty of tampering.

Starting point is 00:09:10 What? Okay, first of all, like, I understand the tampering thing, like, whatever. But like, you have to prove that you didn't. How do you prove that you didn't do something? Like, I could understand if it was like, if another school is able to prove that you tampered with their player, you get whatever, I don't know, find or you lose a scholarship, or whatever to it, you know what I mean? How do you prove, okay, here's my phone, here's the texts I didn't send?

Starting point is 00:09:41 Like, what? I don't understand that at all. So that's really stupid. And it's so dumb because the NCAA has made a mess of all. Like they can't do anything right. Even when we're in a scenario where people are actually like clamoring for the NCAA being like, hey, we want more guidelines. This has gotten too crazy.

Starting point is 00:10:05 NCAA, please help us. And they're still helpless. I just don't get it, man. All right. Let's get to some top six men options for KU basketball. We'll get to the latest news after that. This is LOJ. Our episode today is brought to you by Fanduel.

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Starting point is 00:11:33 And I want to go start somewhere else. I'd rather start at a low major or I'd rather start at a lower end high major than be the same for Kansas. And that is something that KU has to, you know, kind of deal with. And I think in a way, probably overpay for in the transfer portal to try to get somebody aboard. I did before we get into this, did want to have a little fun with CBB analytics, little filters here, and take a look if we can find any names from this. So I took a look at players in the portal who averaged at least 10 or more points per game this past season, shot at least 35% from 3, at least 5, 3 point attempts per 40 minutes. That's 20 or more PER, so relatively efficient, and at least a 2% steel rate, which is at least a decent steel right there. There's only one non-senior in the portal that would classify there.

Starting point is 00:12:19 again, if the 5 and 5 were retroactive and opened it up, then it would change. But that would only leave Dennis Parker Jr. at Radford. These are among players available who haven't committed to, I guess I should say, as an interesting one. And he's interesting because he's a 6-6 wing from Radford. I don't know that I would trust the translation from Radford to Kansas to be the sixth man. If he comes in as your 8th or 9th man, that's a different conversation. But I did find that interesting.

Starting point is 00:12:44 Now, what if we wanted to search more for just a pure scoring, 6th man? right what if we dig a minimum of 12 points per game this past season 36% are better from three with six or more threes per 40 minutes and a 20 PERR for non-seniors that are non-committed you get milan momchilovich makes sense for the good shooting he get Parker again so now this guy's popping up a couple times he becomes a little more interesting and hamad musa which will get into him a little bit more on my kind of list here because he's a very interesting player and then final search i wanted to do Let's see if any other names come up in this one. Focusing on the shooting element, just want a pure flamethrower, right?

Starting point is 00:13:23 Only three filters on this one. 40% are better from three, 10 or more threes per 40. That is a very high number and playing at least 300 total minutes. Non-seniors, Paul McNeil, who we're going to have a deep dive on, Carson Schweiger, there's a bit of a throwback name, the last offseason for KU. William Camori, who is a player from Northeastern, just a really good shooter. Again, that feels like more of the billing of like ninth or 10th man to me. And then Abdi Bashir, who I thought committed somewhere, maybe he's close to committing somewhere,

Starting point is 00:13:55 but I don't think that one would happen for T.U anyway. So keeping all of those in mind and then looking at some of the other numbers I've been looking at, I wanted to go through these. And again, you don't know the what role or what money these players want, but just kind of going through and being like, okay, these guys are available. Maybe they would make sense here. my first tier my tier number one i do have victorious miller in there now if you remember miller visited kansas at this point what a week ago two weeks ago didn't commit i think he had another visit after that i don't know how that went who knows if he's still considering or if that's still a thing that could happen i would love to get victorious miller if you can get him as a sixth man now he

Starting point is 00:14:33 might not want to be a sixth man right i do think though that like yeah i don't know i i would hope this has been echoed across that like even if you're coming off the bench you can still play 25 minutes per game. And here's the thing. You might just be coming off the bench and title because we want to make Taylin Kinney a starter from the recruiting standpoint. But like, there's a chance as an older player, you wind up finishing the game instead of a tail and Kenny. You know what I mean? So like, you're still going to have that starter level impact. But who knows? Anyway, with Miller, about 11 points per game, he has pretty good steal and block rates for a two guard, good three point shooter, almost 38%. Really good free throw shooter. He improved the three-point shooting from year one to year two.

Starting point is 00:15:17 Makes me think it's going to improve even more. You know he can do it a little bit in the Big 12, right, double digit per game score in the Big 12 on Oklahoma State. He would be my tier one of potential six men here. This one would take a bit of projection too. And this is one that I think probably I think West Virginia is seen as the leader right now. But Joe's on Sanon. And again, he might be somebody who he's like, hey, I'm a former top 25 recruit. I ain't going somewhere, you know, to be coming off the bench. But 65 shooting guards showed a lot of promise at Arizona State. His first year fell off a little bit at St. John's.

Starting point is 00:15:52 He had a really bad year. The only thing that was fine for him this year was basically three-point shooting. There was like 33.6 percent on a pretty good volume of takes. But like everything else went bad for him this year. But I would almost be willing to say, hey, we saw it work in the Big 12 a little better at Arizona State. Year three, former top 25 recruit, take the swing. take the risk to kind of be that guy and maybe it's lower pressure for him to come into the years of the sixth man and he can kind of start you know filling out his potential and then the last tier one guy

Starting point is 00:16:21 have is hamad musa now musa is more of a wing than he is a one or a two but he's set to be a junior is at calpoli and there is going to be a bit of translation there but he's six eight all right it's a good size only 190 pounds you're going to be looking to add a little bit more there The Athletic has him in their top 70 for Transfer Portal players coming in the air. Average over 20 points per game over six rebounds. He's a really good defensive rebounder. Two assists per game. Three point shooting is there.

Starting point is 00:16:54 36% on almost nine attempts per game. 88% at the foul line and gets there a good amount. The defense is very bad for Hamad Musa. He was not a very good defender in the Big West and he's going to get targeted in the Big 12th. But if you're bringing him on as a six man, I care more about the scoring there. So those would be my tier one guys. My tier two guys out of Jalen Curry. Again, you go back down the Oklahoma State path of a former cowboy that is in the portal now.

Starting point is 00:17:18 And with Curry, he's smaller than Miller, six foot one. But again, a double-digit score in the Big 12 at 10.1 points per game. You're getting a pretty good steel rate. You're getting some passing involved there. Not nearly as good of the three-point shooter as Miller has some decent metrics along the way. So that would be in tier two. Lateef Patrick becomes kind of an interesting player here. He's one that I think is flown under the radar for me.

Starting point is 00:17:44 Stephen F. Austin, he'll be a senior. A little on the shorter end, but as a sixth man, again, just give me buckets, right? Six foot two, but he averaged 15 points per game at SFA this past season. Again, decent steel rate. You're talking to lower three point shooting, 31.5 percent, but eight and a half attempts per 40 minutes. So he's getting him up. He shoots well at the free throw line, had a really good defensive metric.

Starting point is 00:18:07 which I find interesting here. You look at the defensive windchairs, you look at the on-off defensive numbers, makes me think that he can hold his own on the defensive end and be able to get some shots up for you. And I think there's some stuff there that makes you think the three-point shooting will be better kind of moving forward.

Starting point is 00:18:25 I have Christian Harmon as well in this tier two for sixth men potentially. And Harmon comes from Arkansas State. So again, you're needing some translation there. He'll be a senior, but he's got good size. Six foot six is a two guard. You're talking about 13 points per game. Pretty good passing, two and a half assists per game. Good on two point shots. He also shot 35% from three, but on 11, three point attempts for 40 minutes, which is an incredibly high rate of doing so.

Starting point is 00:18:53 The offensive team metrics, love his game. Arkansas State was like 15 and a half points better per 100, and he was on the floor. Those would be guys that I would kind of look into for the tier one and tier two. Now, if the five for five does end up, happening. Javante Campbell would be a tier one guy for me. Rob Martin will be a tier one guy. Martin technically could get eligible, whether it's five for five or not, because he's trying to get a waiver for his freshman year. He played 12 games. But, you know, speaking of Rob Martin, he was the one at high point. Has KU ever had success with a guard named R. Martin off the bench before? So yeah, I think that might work with Rob Martin. Corey Stevenson would kind of be an interesting one and then some other guys that that would probably be tier two if the five for five ended up

Starting point is 00:19:41 being retroactive with with some suits to zanga brandon macklin jeremy dent smith kaden charles and i s futtrell and nils mccowski mackowski but um right now that seems like that's kind of in limbo so just get victoris miller lock him down and i'd be very happy with that as k u6 man all right latest news for k u next don't forget you can join the everyday or club we're getting at the ad-free version of the show. It is at locked on jhawks. That supercast.com. Okay, KU Baseball comes in ranked 11th in the country now on both baseball America and D1

Starting point is 00:20:17 baseball. I mean, they just keep winning. They keep adding to their big 12. I mean, it's been so cool to see what Dan Fitzgerald is doing. And I think their baseball stats and info, which is one of the best follows on Twitter, sent out like their starting lineup. And it was like all guys, Juco, N-A-I-A, like, just. the ability to find these diamonds in the rough for Dan Fitzgerald.

Starting point is 00:20:40 And here's the thing. While we're seeing like KU football's missed bowl games in back-to-back years, KU basketball has not made the second weekend since 2022, can we get a little more of the money shoveled over to Dan Fitzgerald? I think he's earned it at this point in time to get some more guys with, you know, NIL and that sort of money here, right? Meanwhile, KU tennis is going to be playing six-seated Oklahoma in the NCAA tournament. Then the last bit of news here, the NBA draft early entrance.

Starting point is 00:21:06 came in. These are college players, right? I don't believe these count the international guys, but it's just 71 entries. It's like the lowest since like 2003 or something like that. That that worries me a little more that Daz is going through the process. I so Kiano Daz is going through the NBA draft process and ideally to get some good feedback that stuff that he can work on. And honestly like that's kind of worked out for KU in the past like Oachabashi went through it and worked on a lot of stuff and got better. It's like, It works out when you have this kind of pointed direction you can go in. And I kind of thought all the way through, like, he's going to get this direction,

Starting point is 00:21:43 but he's not popping up on mock drafts or anything. But now knowing like how little the amount of entries are in there, it scares me a little bit more because I start to worry that like, oh no, but is some team going to promise him a two-way contract or this, this or that because the limited amount of people that are in there now. Now, I think the idea at this point is that even if he gets a two-way contract, he's going to be making way more money at KU, right? Even if he was promised being the 55th pick of the draft,

Starting point is 00:22:12 he's going to make more money at KU. So I still think he'll be back at Kansas, but it at least was a little bit of high alert of like, oh, no, could you imagine like KU is, you know, it's been this crazy slow off season for Kansas and then they get this good player from the Big 12 that people are really excited about. And it's like, no, he's actually going to go off to the NBA.

Starting point is 00:22:30 That would be, it wouldn't be classic. Like it hasn't happened a lot. but it would certainly feel like it'd be kind of kicking you while you're down, so to speak, in this, like I said, slow putting off season for Keel. So wait and see what happens there with Dawes, but it sounds like he's been working on a lot of things during this process, and ideally it makes him a more complete player, and then you have the best version of Keanu Dawes,

Starting point is 00:22:54 who was already a pretty good player this past year for Utah. All right, that'll do it for this episode of Lockdown Jayhawks. You can find her show anywhere you get your podcast, including on our YouTube page. check out our Paul McNeil Deep down on out Tuesday morning as well. See you next time on LOJ.

Locked On Jayhawks - Daily Podcast On Kansas Jayhawks Football & Basketball - FIVE IN FIVE Could Rattle Transfer Portal & Kansas Offseason + Top 6th Men Options for Jayhawks

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